FDA bans handheld lasers

>>45279474
What do you need such a laser for except to disrupt air traffic?

>>45279492
In order to easily violate the Geneva Conventions.

Good. I'm glad they're looking out for my safety.

Disappointing that they're being banned but I've never really seen the need for a $200 laser and I don't think their imminent demise is enough to make me want to buy one.

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>land of the free

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>>45279492
>>45279531
>>45279556
When did real Americans get replaced with freedom hating Burgerclaps?

>>45279474
Lasers are neither a food nor a drug. What does the FDA have to do with this?

Feels good to live in canuckistan

>>45279556

>tfw your children/grandchildren will never get to experience the freedom of owning such a device

I dont have a need for 5Ghz processor but I have the freedom to unrestrictedly own a 5Ghz processor. If the government bans them then I will never have the option of owning one ever which destroys freedom and increases tyranny.

And the sale of 5mW or greater lasers has drastically increased for overseas sellers who ship to the US.

All this ban does is hurt the people based in the US selling them.

>thanks, obama

>>45279620
5GHz processors aren't a danger to you and everyone within a few miles of you.

>>45279652
What if the chip smasher is activated? The higher your clock speed, the more damage it causes.

>>45279613
You probably can't own them in yurope either

If I got to make the decision I'd keep them legal because it's not like planes are crashing as a result of lasers, but this is very far down on the long list of issues in the United States.

>>45279474
The fuck does the FDA have to do with regulating lasers?

>>45279680

Within 24 months the EU will be banning lasers over 5mw.

Australia and New Zealand has already banned them and treats lasers as weapons on the same level as firearms.

>ctrl-f
>december
>january
>2015
>2014
>no relevant results
Go away viral marketer.

Banning lasers based on output power is foolish.

A very divergent laser beam will actually be worse than a spotlight. The power is spread out over a larger area depending on the distance.

So really they should regulate lasers based on optical divergence and output power. An airplane pilot isn't even going to be able to see a high powered laser if it is very divergent.

>>45279618
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=1040.10
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=1040.11

>>45279725
No one is banning lasers. Read the documents he linked. He's just viral marketing for wicked lasers.

>>45279749
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/news/news/other-news_files/b40dff73587dfff6cf9609eba226e6bb-389.php
>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on May 5 2014 will announce its intent to limit laser pointers and handheld lasers to be below 5 milliwatts. If adopted, this action would impose a defacto ban in the U.S. on the sale to consumers of portable, battery powered lasers of 5 mW or more. Currently, such lasers are available for sale in the U.S. at powers of up to 3 watts (3000 milliwatts) which is 600 times the proposed FDA limit.
>The proposal would not make it illegal to own or responsibly use portable, battery-powered lasers of 5 mW or more. However, manufacturers could not make or sell these into general commerce in the U.S.

>oh no, god forbid someone makes too much light
>let's ban phase-coherent light sources but not ban HID flashlights

>>45279764
HID car headlights are a bigger menace
the NHTSA and DOT should crack down on amazon and ebay for all the halfassed "off road only" HID kits people are buying and putting in halogen projectors

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>>45279759
>intent
>proposal
>if adopted

>>45279764

I hate people who have HID headlights. They are a pain in my eyes everytime i drive past someone with them.

>>45279775

>it was adopted

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>>45279680
>You probably can't own them in yurope either
you're wrong though

Good. That's what you fat man-children deserve for pointing them at airplanes.

>the common folk can have firearms
>the common folk can't have powerful laser pointers
>can't sell kinder surprise chocolate eggs
I seriously can't understand USA.

>>45279804
Why is the little red riding hood banned in the US?

>>45279790
Then why link to an article from before it was? Do you have anything more recent, possibly from a less shitty website? Or is this a secret that only the underground laser hobbyist community is in on right now?

>>45279814
because white opressive cis scum girl had wine in her basket

I still don't see where you're getting December 31, 2014. Are you just pulling that date out of your ass or did you get it from somewhere? None of the things linked in this thread have had that date.

Reported for viral marketing, nothing has been banned.

>>45279814
>>45279804
It isn't. Neither are fucking chocolate eggs with toys in them. This is a troll post. Also high powered lasers are dangerous to planes. That shit is bright and wide as fuck when it hits that altitude.

>>45279814
Because Murifats started eating their grandmas & children.

>>45279810
I think the key would be to weaponize a hand held laser, classifying it as a small arm.

Then they'd have a hard time making them illegal.

>>45279810
What's wrong with normal people owning guns?

>>45279474
Oh god the airplane nonsense.
I refuse to believe that you can blind a pilot in an aircraft 12 kilometers up in the sky. How the fuck do you even aim for the cockpit on an airplane?

>>45279830

Viral marketing by wicked faggots, report hide & move on folks, nothing to see herr

>>45279814
red = communism

>>45279840
kinder eggs are banned in the US

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>>45279814

>>45279840
Except Kinder Eggs are banned in America you dumb shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Surprise#United_States

Neither them nor >5mW laser should be banned. It's just the Government overstepping its boundaries again.

>>45279854
The light from the laser spreads out and is actually pretty wide by the time it hits that altitude retard. It covers a fairly large area and it can easily blind a pilot.

Your daily reminder that the FDA does not give a fuck about your health, but is actually a corporation fueled strong arm of the government to make shit illegal, because it benefits you, a customer and citizen, more than the corporate leeches that seek to feed off of you.

>>45279867
Go on.

>>45279866
I see these stupid ass eggs in the store all the time. It isn't a Kinder egg but at least in texas the do sell these chocolate eggs with toys in them. I'd take a picture but i'm not about to drive 20 minutes into town just to take a picture of a chocolate egg with a to in it.

>>45279872
A fucking laserpointer isn't powerfull enough to blind a pilot, especially not when it's spread out from traveling 12 kilometers through the atmosphere you fucking faggot

>>45279847
Nothing. What's wrong with normal people using bright lasers for e.g. astronomy purposes? Or what's wrong with a a plastic capsule with a toy inside a chocolate egg-like object?

>>45279814
The wine in her basket, it wasn't a country-wide ban though

>>45279871
>Government imposing bans
>Overstepping boundaries
>Government

wat

You live in a governed state, of course they have the rights to ban the sale of things.

>>45279882
google the name

>>45279889
Perhaps it can negatively impede the optics of drones and the like?

>>45279474
/g/ doesn't give a fuck when its guns, but when its lasers ohhh nooooo.

Enjoy the lack of freedoms you wrought us faggots.

>>45279492
Check out this "muh need" fag.

FDA DID NOT BAN ANYTHING

OP IS A SHILL VIRAL MARKETER

I REPEAT OP IS LYING

>REPORT & HIDE

<REPORT & HIDE

>REPORT & HIDE

<REPORT & HIDE

>>>>>>> > REPORT & HIDE OP IS A SHILL LIAR <<<<<<<<<

>>45279889
Please go point a 1w laser at your eye.
I think the ban is stupid, but you're retarded if you think there aren't lasers powerful enough that you can easily buy right now that can blind a pilot a few thousand feet in the air.

http://www.wickedlasers.com/aboutus
>Stevie Little · Michigan Technological University
I am sad I have to write this but never got laser payed for express shipping and 3 weeks later no laser. Called the company talked to really unprofessional people and just got run around and they don't seem to be willing to give refund, even though that is what they promise. I now regret that I trusted this company and tried to do business with them.

>>45279903
Then they should build better fucking drones that aren't blinded by being laser pointered from 12 kilometers away

>>45279882
It's posted on exhentai, all 4 parts.
I found this: www.neatorama.com/2011/09/29/12-books-that-have-ironically-been-banned-in-the-u-s/

>>45279915
From the same page
>NEVER buy anything from this company, they use under-performing components and cheap diodes and NEVER reach the power output they claim.
RULE OF THUMB: Anything Cinese or Hong Kong or other asian sourced (With the exception of JAPAN), stay away, you will either be ripped off or be supplied with 2nd rate prodict.
>Use "Laserglow" or "Optotronics" or other reputable laser manufacturer. Also read up on "Laser Wiki".
>They deleted my comments before so if you're reading this, spread the word because this comment wont be up for very long.
You have been warned.

>>45279919
Seems like it would be a lot easier to first ban high powered lasers before modifying the manufacturing process of said drones.

>>45279911

This

Stop replying you stupid fags

>>45279896
Let me guess, you're European.
Here in the US the way the Government is supposed to work is that the federal government defends the nation as a whole and helps solve conflicts between states.
Most of the power of the law was grated to the state governments and their citizens. Over the past 100 years however there has been an intentional push to weaken state governments and strengthen the federal government as much as possible. Just look at the recent pushes to get rid of the electoral college.

>>45279934
Yeah it's also a lot easier to ban rain than to make waterproof stuff

It seems like wickedlasers aren't producing their own laser diodes, rather they "harvest" them from various products like Blu-Ray players and projectors

>>45279903
But why would there be drones flying above the US ?

Aren't they used to kill terrorists :^)

>>45279896
Supposedly the govermnet is made of the people, for the people, and by the people.

>>45279911
that post only really convinces me that you have severe autism

>>45279948
;^) yes

>>45279474
Wait, since when do Americans consider lasers food? or is it drugs?

>NOTHING HAS BEEN BANNED

>NOTHING HAS FUCKING BEEN BANNED YOU STARRY-EYED RETARDS

READ THE LINKS NOTHING SAYS THEY'VE BEEN BANNED YOU COCKMONGLING FAGGOTS

OP IS A JEW VIRAL MARKETER AND YOU IDIOTS TAKE HIS SHILL COCK DEEP IN YOUR ASSES BY REPLYING TO THE THREAD

NOTHING WAS BANNED

NOTHING WILL BE BANNED

OP LIES

SHILLS BUMP WITH "LEGIT POSTS"

REPORT & HIDE SHILLKIKE OP

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>>45279898
>anthro furry preggo interspecies

>>45279972
They handle consumer safety laws on consumer products.

>>45279867
I feel really terrible for knowing exactly what comic this is.

>>45279983
>>45279911
could you not?

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>>45279637
>>thanks, obama

You're welcome!

>>45279889
What? Are people really this stupid? Just google "laser attacks on planes" kids with lasers shine them at planes all the time and it blinds pilots.

>>45279992
Rename it then

>>45279972
>my fucking face when americans are so fat that they have to eat lasers on a laser diet just to lose weight

>>45279992
>consumer products
you'd really eat anything wouldn't you?

>>45279992
Maybe a change in name is in order, that being the case.

>>45279989
>implying that's bad

>>45279989
i know its perfect.

>>45280003
Lasers aren't powerful enough to blind a pilot at a 12 kilometer range, and even if they were, you wouldn't be able to hit the fucking cockpit

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>>45279989

i have a 10mw one
its pretty cool because it can shine so bright
i stuck it up my ass last week and its covered in shit so i dont want to use it

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>>45279954
>Supposedly the govermnet is made of the people, for the people, and by the people.

>implying that politicians are people

>>45280045
You need to take better care of your ass anon

Good.

The only time i've ever seen someone with one of these lasers they brought it to a party and pointed it at things and people. These aren't like firearms that are useful for defense of person and property, these are toys that people play with for their own amusement.

>>45280028
This is very well documented, it does blind them and pilots report this shit every time it happens. It's a common occurrence

>>45280068
They sure look like people to me.

>>45280095
So because pilots say it happens, we should believe it?

>mfw carbon dioxide lasers are not firearms

>>45280095
It's still retarded, mostly all planes at a cruise altitude fly by autopilot, even when descending for landing. Also, i doubt someone would be able to continually keep a lazer aimed to the pilots face, even near the runway.

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>>45280028
You realize lasers aren't a line, right?
They're very focused, but they do spread over a distance.
1w lasers are powerful enough to burn wood and make you permanently blind. They can easily be had for $200, so you're an idiot if you think something like that wouldn't easily make piloting difficult.

>>45280097
>he doesn't know about reptillians

Nice "freedom" ameriburgers

>>45280097
>They sure look like people to me.

by definition, the ones involved in politics are not people.

poly = latin for "many"
tics = bloodsucking parasites

So anyone know where I can find a cheap 5Mw laser ? Wicked Lasers is stupidly expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI7Qq1mYQlI

I'll just leave this here.

>>45280125
Autopilot doesn't mean the plane flies itself. The autopilot just handles some of the more mundane tasks. Are you /g/uys really this retarded?
>>45280103
You can easily calculate luminosity at a distance. It's a simple equation anyone can google, if you do you will see that a laser remains very powerful even at a distance.

Literally what is the purpose of such a strong laser for anything other than trying to crash planes?

Give me just one reason.

>>45280135
You realize this doesn't make possession of laser pointers illegal, right?

>>45280140
china

>>45280151
I need them to performing illegal laser eye surgery in my backyard.

>>45279816

I wasnt that poster. But if WL and CNI are stopping all shipments to the US then that means the new regulation passed and is going into effect.

2+2=?

>ITT Europoors who think banning something from being sold in the US is the same as making it illegal to own.

Why do Europeans always think this shit?

>>45280145
Autopilot is like a more advanced version of cruise control in cars. It maintains altitude and level through PID controllers. The pilot doesn't have to be i full control every moment when autopilot is enabled.

>>45280145
>Autopilot doesn't mean the plane flies itself. The autopilot just handles some of the more mundane tasks. Are you /g/uys really this retarded?

An autopilot is just a blow up doll that looks like a real pilot.

>>45280171
s/\(perform\)ing/\1/g

>>45280151
Pointing at starts and other celestial bodies in astronomical presentations.

>>45280186
Our laws work different. I can't really think of anything we have here that's illegal to be sold yet still legal to own.

>>45280203
You don't need a laser this powerful for that, my professor used a shitty one over 10 years old and he had no issues.

>>45280206
Counterfeit goods are generally legal to own but illegal to sell.

Meanwhile in Europe.

http://www.laserpointersafety.com/news/news/other-news_files/tag-european-union.php

>On February 5 2014, the European Union issued a “decision ... on the safety requirements to be met by European standards for consumer laser products." The decision will severely restrict or ban European consumer access to Class 3R, 3B and 4 lasers. For lasers emitting visible beams, this would restrict or ban consumer laser products with an output 1 milliwatt or greater.

Americans can legally possess lasers over 1000 times more powerful than Europeans and even in 2015 can still buy lasers that are 5 times more powerful.
kek

I guess I dont see the problem with 5mw lasers being regulated, there are alot of faggots out there pointing then into planes/helicopters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k4C8grAGP4#t=11

>>45280223
Well ok there's that, I'll agree with you.
So are products over the expiration date now that I think about it.

>>45280206
We have some things the other way around, women are allowed to sell themselves but it's illegal to buy their services (in Sweden).

Also furs from endangered species are illegal to sell but if you have one from before the bans you're allowed to have it.

>>45279474
>the food and drug administration has banned lasers
bait/8

>>45280186
you use the synonym europoor like america doesn't have a 17 trillion dollar national debt

>>45279843
Underrated post

They are preparing for an uprising. They suspect these will be uses against them when they use helicopters to suppress the masses.

>>45279843
toast of the bread

>>45279983
>>45279858
>>45279832
>>45279775
>>45279749
>>45279720

They are banned:
>http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-EmittingProducts/RadiationEmittingProductsandProcedures/HomeBusinessandEntertainment/LaserProductsandInstruments/ucm116373.htm

note that this only applies to laser pointers ("demonstration lasers"). Pull a fucking blue ray laser diode and rig it to a battery.

>>45280339
That's is is one Enterprise Quality(tm) URL.

http://www.laserpointersafety.com/page52/laser-hazard_diagram/different-lasers-compared.html

All the faggots saying laser can blind a pilot at cruising altitude are wrong. Science and Math can prove otherwise.

>>45280354
>Enterprise Quality(tm) URL.
>its the fucking FDA's official site

the fuck is your implication, nigger?

>>45280362
I think its more temporary blindness, and eye damage, not full on BAM hit with a laser for 1s now your blind forever.

Plenty of pilots have been hospitalized with eye damage as a result already

>>45280362
Nobody's talking about cruising altitude, the problem are faggots disrupting starting and landing.

>>45280374
I'm just glad they take their jobs seriously.

Can't wait till fucking everything is banned so I can finally feel safe.

>>45279492
#1 question still not answered

shit thread

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>this thread
>still going
Stop replying to this, it's Wicked Lasers viral marketing. Nothing that has been linked has the date December 31st because he's making it up. Report and hide you idiots.

The government is banning powerful lasers because they know there is going to be a lot more civil unrest in the near future, and they don't want civilians having an effective method for blinding the militarized riot police.

Sincerely
/pol/

>>45280451

CNI is a major laser manufacturer and they have told many customers this week they are not shipping handhelds into the US anymore.

CNI is a larger and higher quality manufacturer than WL.

>confirmed for idiot

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>>45280492
Link me to an article that has the date December 31st in it. Where did you get that date? Are you going to answer the question or keep avoiding it?

>>45280471
Back to your cage please.

>>45280506

Look at OPs pick...

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Time to fit a 50mW laser in this little thing.

>>45280514
Not realizing that laser pointers are already the #1 annoyance for riot police.

Back to your basement please.

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>>45280518
Oh, well THAT'S incontrovertible proof. For one, can you link me to the page on their site that says that? Secondly:
>Wicked Lasers is under new ownership
Doesn't say anything about following FDA regulations, and doesn't provide any evidence that I can't buy a high powered laser pointer on some other website. Maybe it's all being kept secret, because the FDA doesn't want the general public to know about it's war on high powered lasers, right?

Fuck. Off. Shill.

>>45279804
That picture implies that mass murder is legal.

>>45279492
>If you don't need something, and the thing can be used for something bad, it should be banned!
Said no true American ever.

>>45279618
>implying canada hasn't had a ban on these lasers for 10 years

>>45279474
>Food and Drug Safety Administration
>lasers

>>45280601
>americunts aren't free enough to mass murder themselves

"land of the free"

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>mfw i've seen people pointing lasers at aeroplanes
>and they gave me a laser and we all pointed

;_;

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>>45279989
and?

>>45279896
>being this pussy whipped
Let me guess. You're European.

Us Americans are pussy whipped too, but at least we have the sense to complain about it.

>>45280158
>diode dies in a month and a half
Great idea, anon.

If the point is to reduce lasers blinding pilots, is 5mW even low enough?

>mfw i get the laser thingy from the cd reader
>mfw i make a homemade laser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_u9MfW6ejk

>>45279764
> lifted trucks with these in a line on the bumper so they're eye level with you
What is so obstructive on the streets of Connecticut that you have to raise your truck to accommodate for 4 feet of clearance?

>>45280878
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM

>>45279474
That's too bad, I've always wanted one, never had the money to spend on it though.

>>45280764
You didn't complain about ACTA, while Europe saw massive protests.

>>45279764
I have 2 lights on my bumper but I don't fucking turn the things on when I'm on the road nor is my truck lifted in the slightest

>>45281019
WHY? WHY? YOU SOME KIND OF TERRORIST?

IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING TO HIDE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PRACTICAL USE FOR SOMETHING, YOU SHOULDN'T OPPOSE ITS BANISHMENT.