Can hard work overtake genes/natural talent?

yes
no
maybe

can you repeat the question?

>>27467
Real life isn't one of your Japanese cartoons, get outside.

>He hasn't want Ping Pong the animation
One of the more aesthetic anime to come out of this decade senpai

If someone with high-tier genes/natural talent does nothing to develop themselves, yes.

If someone with genes/natural talent works at it, no, hard work can never overtake someone genetically superior who's also working hard.

>>27467

Hard work will always overtake genes/natural talent.

However, hard work will never exceed genes/natural talent + hard work.

You're not the boss of me now

No, hard work means nothing. Knowledge however does. Knoweledge is the be all and end all of everything.

>>27535
>see kid in power wheelchair
>he isn't retarded but can't move normally
>he just must not be working hard enough at moving normally

>>27564
Knowledge is worthless without practical experience

>>27631

Alright, well, maybe qualifiers like "always" and "never" weren't the most appropriate.

In most situations, a lazy prodigy gets less done than a hard working normal dude. Take it from someone who did calculus in grade school and went on to do absolutely nothing of value while a friend of his found a passion in mathematics and lives in a New York penthouse working for a trading company.

>>27678

Practical experience IS knowledge.You can work your whole life in Wall Mart working as hard as you can and die as a customer assistant. Hard work has nothing to do with anything, knowing how to do things does.

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>>27476
>>27480
>>27544

>>27680
145 IQ wunderkind-prodigy-turned-NEET here. Can confirm. Most of the great men in history haven't been so because of their intelligence but but because of their drive and their finesse.

Depends on the thing you're talking about

>>27525
>>27535
yeah pretty much this

http://www.strongerbyscience.com/genetics-and-strength-training-just-different/

the person with talent needs to not even by trying

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Talent is a myth. Virtuosity is built on the back of agonizing work and a near-constant desire for the pursuit of perfection. The only factor we have found to best predict success is disciplined practice and the seizing of opportunities that move you up in life.

Genes certainly play a role in the POTENTIAL of an individual's success, but it far from the chief decider in 9/10 of cases.

>>28606
>finesse
Alexander was not finesse. He was a lunatic who charged into battle in golden armour, relying on his comrades' totally-no-homo love for him, to also drive them to follow him.
>Macedonian empire and influencing the futures of a significant portion of the world by living the yolo life.

>>27467
Yeah

Genes play a big role, but people on this board act like if they have any problems like being small or weak that it's their genetics fault and they're in the bottom 20% where as someone they compare to is in the top 80%, it's never their fault for being an idiot and not training properly.
Odds are they and most people they meet are both within one SD of each other and they're just fucking stupid/lazy and need something to blame. Some people do have shit genetics, but even then you can get pretty fucking far. Sure you may never set records, but whatever.

>>28969
>but people on this board act like if they have any problems like being small or weak that it's their genetics fault
Fuck off newfag you don't know shit about this board.
Probably been here less than a day.

Hard Work > Talent > Talent + Hard Work
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