/fraud/ - insecurity, steroids and abusing steroids to deal with

where can i talk source

>>42875783 #
>Use to just use glutes until I aspirated a bunch of white foamy liquid, which I assume was either an abscess or a depot that wasnt fully absorbed. Pinning quads is a rush now.

Oyy

>>42881404
you cant, steroids only exist in our imagination

>>42880470
What then? I thought deca was superior for mass

Test, adrol, eq? I heard eq is fucking weak and shitty for your rbc/hb/ht

I donate every 2 months, but it will get fucking obvious if it gets elevated every time.

I am too worried about tren and don't like shorter ester, i hate being a pincushion

>>42881495
You can try deca for sure, you're a genetic freak so you might see the results you like.

Deca is just a bit overblown in term of potency.

>>42881451
>imagination
they become pretty real once you die, just ask piano man


:^)

Is clearsky still good to order from or no?

>>42881515
How's anadrol btw? Never tried it before only dianabol

I am not sure about deca, i only did test and dbol for blast. I just wanna get big

Seems like any compounds besides tren and test are superfluous. I've tried EQ, Deca, and a couple orals. Tren and Test blow everything out of the water.

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>>42881585
No experience with anadrol.
Can vouch for Anavars having a positive effect on your mood and really bringing out a shredded look.
Dbol fucks my nipples up.

Pic related was March, most of the effect is thanks to Var.
Still small but can see some good striation, ignore small chest.

>>42881515
breeh, did you get nicer skin on deca?

Honestly i always thougt deca is on par with tren. Or from what i read, its stronger than test.

>>42881009

i thought deca is dry gains if you keep test at natty dose. thats what everyone says.

EQ sounds nice, but i heard its only really effective at 500+ dosages, which would make it a expensive compound because you need to run that sht for a long time.
Dont really like the dry grainy look with insane vascularity.
Anything you can say about it side effect wise? From what i heard it doesnt harm you as much as other compounds. Does it give you alot of acne like test or tren does?

>>42881800
imo one of your best pics you have shown of you ,great. crazy shoulder striations.

Anavar is mostly bunk tho and good for mass.

Will probably do adrol, test and maybe deca then. Just want to get huge as possible and those seems the best mass builders

>>42881363
Anyone know how many years Musclehead320 from Instagram got? He had priors, btw.

>>42881495
Adrol is good. S23 is actually supposed to be good if you want something dry too.

Dont forget methyltren.

Also Im going to start memeing dimethandrolone so hopefully someone starts selling it.

>>42881800
Dbol fucks me up on 20mg, nipples, blood pressure etc.

But I fucking love adrol @ 100mg, it doesnt give me any issues.

>>42881880
>bunk and good for mass
wut

>>42881962
I feel like adrol is one of the best orals. Var fucks up my bp but adrol never really did even at 100mg

>>42881876
Honestly nothing wrong with deca, made me look smooth but also puffy. Comfy for joints.
Its stronger then just test for sure.

>>42881880
Thanks man, want to be this lean again but I want to be bigger first.
RP Var is legit from our source.

Deca is fine for just getting big I suppose.

>>42881962
Might give adrol a shot one day.

>>42881363
Test changed my life

>300lbs
>Drop weight by adding in test for a few months cycle
>Lost a lot of weight
>Don't even lift weights or go to the gym


>Depression still there so that sucks

>>42882084
I need to measure my bp next time I run sdrol, one of the reasons I like adrol is doesn't fuck bp.

Seems like though most dry orals may fuck bp though?

Just got my package and the test e is completely transparent, not at all like in OP pic. I've read that this is not uncommon, but are there any other indicators that it could be bunk?

>>42882214
Pin it and find out

>>42882195
Why the fuck would you run a test cycle and not work out? What a waste of money. If you worked out and made gains it may have improved your mental state too.

Does test even help with weight loss?

I lost so much fucking weight

JERRY

give me psmf tips
big bastard
im barely seeing any weight drop
you on dnp bro?

>>42882249
>88
>>42882230

>>42882250
protip: actually do psmf and not whatever bastardized version you made up of it

he's not on dnp

>tfw you have 5 vials of tren and caber just sitting there but you don't feel ready for tren just yet
why did I impulse buy this

>>42882249
Yes but I'm wondering if the test even made a difference with this? If you worked out your loose skin would probably have been less noticeable as well.

>>42882230
I agree that working out would have been better, but yeah, it has weightloss effects since it promotes unnatural muscle growth hence using up energy for muscle growth. Tho he'd have to be at least eating on maintenance.

>>42882301
is cutting carbs necessary
seems like a load

I thought I was completely fucked when I injured my elbow lifting, but 4 days later and my elbow is completely back to normal with no pain during workout. Thank fucking god. I thought I would be fucked for at least 2 weeks.

Is wrist stretching before workout a good way to keep elbow/wrist injuries away? Anything else I can do to prevent it happening again?

Right now I do: 5 minutes intense running, wrist stretching, rotator cuff warm up exercises and 4 warmup sets to prevent injuries. I also stretch my wrist and ice it after workouts.

>>42882394
And ice my elbows after workout ***

I've come to realize that injury prevention is #1 while lifting heavy weights on a blast, especially with the decrease in collagen.

>>42882374
yes.

>>42882250
rapidfatlossebook.pdf

>>42879906
I guess alcohol affects people differently then. Because for me I've tried killing myself while drunk multiple times, but I'm not depressed normally. I don't know, maybe underneath I'm a massive fucking mess that wants to fuck and die and cry.

It actually makes me question myself. Maybe I should see a shrink or something.

>>42882443
>maybe underneath I'm a massive fucking mess that wants to fuck and die and cry.
This is normal

>>42882250
Dnp sucks
Eat your weight in protein in g and a lil workout carb and run n lift alot
Pretty easy

Dont forget your vitamins though

>>42882529
>Not just water fasting
You're taking gear anyway. Just fucking fast with multivitamin, water and a lil salt

>>42882214
When it comes to test, the color or lack thereof is usually due to the carrier oil. It's not like tren where the color can help you determine purity/strength.

>>42882529
I love you jerry

>>42882214
is it also watery? It's probably ethyl oleate carrier oil

How important is it to hit my macros while cutting on tren/test? Between the tren, coffee, and cigarettes I have barely any appetite for anything at all and have to force myself to eat my cutting amount, but would I be okay to just not eat that much? Like even if I get a 1000kcal+ deficit?

>>42882552
I think that would be a good cut ender, few days, few lbs.
But for a few weeks? Nah

>>42882627
You too

>>42882879
Get your protein atleast

>>42882879
>taking tren and smoking heaters
Rip your lungs

>>42882581
>>42882657
It is pretty watery. I'm probably gonna pin it regardless but I just wanted to see if I got the right stuff since it's my first time acquiring bathtub chemicals.

is it illegal for me to ship clen to the US from EU? I know it's not illegal to possess or buy here, but is it breaking laws to have it pass over country borders?

Should I front load EQ? How much faster will it kick? How much do I need to front load a week when I will be normally taking 750mg a week?

I'm already on test and I want EQ to not take 6 weeks to kick in if possible.

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How rigorous of a steroid regimen would I need to look like Romero? I'm am inch taller and have similar body proportions. Currently 175 @ 11% bodyfat.

>>42883498
Almost anything will do, it just takes time and training and calories to build the mass, once you have the mass you can cut the fat and water.

>>42883101
I've smoked for years and never had any problems. Tren only impacts your liver, really, and I don't drink because of the calories.
>>42882894
Are fats important or can I ditch those? I prefer scrambled egg whites but chucking a few yolks in there is stomacheable, at least. Is it counter-productive during a cut though?

>>42882335
I impulse bought DNP but I still haven't used it because I don't want to die.

Tren wasn't as bad as I expected though. Minor insomnia, sweated more, but not much else tbhfam.

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>>42883557
Probably hopping on adrol and test in a couple months. Ideally I don't want to run more than a couple cycles while I'm young, but I don't know what to expect.

On forums I see people who blew the fuck up on their first cycle and people who hardly changed and still look like shit.

>>42883276
I could be wrong on this, but last I checked it was technically """"illegal"""" but customs probably won't pull it and there is a good chance of no problems in delivery.

If at all possible, avoiding customs on clen inside the US is best.

Are there any other compounds apart from peptides that make you want to stuff your face with all the food you can find? Getting to 3500kcals is pretty challenging already, I can't imagine doing 5000.

Don't run cycles long enough to add EQ

>>42883709
funny, I did the opposite. I used the DNP and thought it really wasn't that big a deal (I ran it during winter though, definitely not doing this shit during summer), just early hives that I blasted away with antihistamines and sweating/orange fluids.

meanwhile the tren is sitting there because I'm scared of my bp hitting 200 and dying. oh and I have a gf now, unlike when I ran dnp so I can't imagine sweating through my sheets on tren while sleeping with the gf.

How do you prefer your Dianabol?

Low Dosage (10-30) vs High Dosage (40-x)
Short cycle (4-6) vs Long cycle (8-12)

>>42883653
Fats are less important on hormones in general since some of your hormones atleast are exogenous.
I usually cut em out

I'm a weightlifter and currently squat heavy 3x a week. If I blast test will I be able to squat 6x a week? Assuming proper diet and sleep

Any positive joint health gains from SARMS?
My elbow, and both shoulders are fucked. I've heard the osteo anabolic activity can help.

>>42883820
MemeK677 or whatever the fuck cap shills is supposed to be great for that

>>42883855
>dbol only cycles
The 80's are calling bro, they want their steroids back

Guys, im 12 weeks in my first 500mg test e/week bulk cycle. Plan was to do 15 weeks but now im thinking about going straight into cut. Unfortunately i've got 1ml amps and i don't want to pin enanthate once a week so im still staying on that 500mg. After this cycle im going to cruise after on 250mg/week. Is it a good idea to start cutting while im still on higher dose or i should continue bulking?

>>42883936
>osteo anabolic activity
When will the SARM shilling end? Seriously though, what's actually wrong with your joints? 95% of the time it's connective tissue, not bones.

>>42883867
Maybe but don't expect to make 2x the amount of progress because you are squatting twice as much. Personally I would say it would be too much of a strain on your lower back even with perfect form to handle.

Now if you were to take test and squat 3x a week, I can see you progressing a lot faster than you would ever natty.

>>42884016
Bulk, then cut on 250mg. Throw in some anavar towards towards the end of the cut to get rid of that stubborn fat. Shouldn't lose any muscle unless you're well past your genetic limitations, if so, then you'll need more gear to hold on to muscle mass.

>>42884026
Osteocondritis disocanz. Essentially super advanced arthritis in my elbow. Dr. said I'm going to need full elbow replacement before I'm 35.

It's tendonds/ligaments in my shoulders, but the internet says osterine has been shown to help with that.

Why do people hate SARMS?

>>42884056
those 3 weeks really matter that much? there is no difference in preserving muscle mass between 250 and 500mg of test?

>>42884065
>Why do people hate SARMS?
Because they provide a fraction of the benefits of injectable compounds with a fraction of the benefits are equal downsides

>>42884120
At a more expensive price**

>>42884077
There is, but it only really makes a good difference if you've built more muscle than you can naturally hold on to. You will be able to keep all of your gains on 250mg if you're not a huge dude. I assume that you're not beyond your genetic potential like most people here. Cutting on high doses of AAS is a waste if you're not already huge.

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>>42884144
me in pic related (i wish)

thanks for replying bby

>>42884065
SARMs almost definitely won't help your elbow, but they probably won't hurt it either. For the shoulder I would do PT and maybe PRP before jumping on the sarms bandwagon.

People don't hate sarms, they're not terrible drugs, but everyone and their mum is shilling them hard as fuck right now. The "sarmz literally cure cancer guyz!!1!" gets pretty old.

>>42884316
SARMS do have amazing potential, but they just aren't developed enough.

My gf is a really strong lifter. Needs to cut about 20-25 lbs to get where she needs to be. We watched the my Olympia women's physique. She wants to start working towards that. What are those girls running? Var? Low dose test?

>>42884734
Var, Winny mostly I suppose.

They might even hop on Tren if they want to get to the top but I would not advice it.

Low dosing of Var is the most popular. Great gains and little to no side effects.

>>42884734
I'm no expert on female steroid "cycles" but I know a few chicks who compete. Orals like var and winny are common. For injectables test a/p, primo and npp are also fairly common. All in low doses obviously.

Anyone had their probelms fixed with Caber?

>>42884936
No I still have massive dismorphia, crippling issues and general depression.

I should hop on sarms I've read it cures cancer.

I am taking 0.5mg arimidex eod with 500mg test and I feel like it gets me slightly too low in estrogen. However, I think that 0.25mg is probably too little (I don't want facial bloat). How do I fix this dosing issue? 0.5mg e3d even with the 48h half life?

>>42885098
>I feel like it gets me slightly too low in estrogen
You're an absolute retard if you honestly think you can "feel" that.

>>42885115
My joints make too many popping sounds. I'm pretty sure that's one sign that e2 is a little on the lower end. Anyway, let's just for argument sake say that I'm right and I am slightly on the lower end, would e3d be alright? I just want to try and change the dosing to see how I feel. I am not prone to gyno.

>>42885143
Why not? If you feel like the adex is having a negative effect on you then by all means switch to e3d.
Many people do it that way and you should be fine as well.
If you get high estro symptoms go back to your old schedule.

>>42885169
Thanks, mate. Will do :)

>>42885098
Get exemestane. Problem solved : ^ ).

Dissolve it in something for better dose control.

You want to adjust the dose with anastrozole, not fuck with timing.

>>42885188
Just a tip, works for me since I am very prone, blast 2-3 days with 0.5-1mg when your nips are fucking up. No you won't crash estro, thats insanely hard to do.

Arimidex and letrozole suck. Both of them tanked my estrogen (something I wouldn't wish on anyone). Aromasin is where it's at. Even UGL grade

Which peptide would you guys use after a labral repair? Debridement and got some anchors put down

>>42882552
are you that really skinny dude who posted that gif talking about your water fast results?

>>42881517
You mean that guy Rich Piana who didn't die from anything related to steroids?
:^)

>>42885210
>1mg adex
>not fucking destroyong your estro

Let me guess, ugl ai?

>>42885220
I took some tb500 after my leg surgery to help

>>42885395
No Jerry, fucking shit conversion. I get gyno from 250mg+ test and up.

>>42885427
Im on 37mg pharma asin for 500mg
But even 1mg adex is too much for me

>that time I was on 900mgtest and 30dbol and need 2mg adex a day
Good times

>>42885294
Oops. See
>>42885395

>>42885486
>750mg test, 40mg dbol
>letro everyday to keep that fucker in check

I'll stick to dry compounds thank you very much.

>>42885566
You have very poor genetics.
Consider refraining from reproduction.

>>42885606
The roids do that for me baby.
Also thanks for reminding me I'm a genetic manlet piece of trash, guess we can shake hands aside from the manlet part?

>>42885427
What the f u c k

>>42885651
My body hates me and my nipples want to see me suffer.

Thanks jerry

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>>42885635
Excuse me I am the pinnacle of mankind.

>>42885684
Those aren't small petite girls I refuse to believe this lie.

Is there a natty minimum to use gear? How much is it?

>>42885699
All of it.

>>42885695
Im actually 4'8 so those girls are like 3ft.

>>42885699
Its more of a lifestyle imo
Less where you are more how dedicated are you

>>42885725
>Im actually 4'8
Still taller then me, I'm petite and flat chested are you willing to give me the attention I need?

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On winny only cycle, do i need PSC and protectors and shi?. I think its necessary to do PSC after the cycle no matter its only oral winny(first cycle, 18 years old)

>>42885675
Yw

>>42885788
Depends how thick your feminine penis is no homo

>>42885725
>Im actually 4'8
what happened to manletgains

>>42881800
>roiding for this

>>42885851
How thick do you want it?

>>42885879
Took you long enough

>>42885829
>winny cycle
>18 years old
stupid kid, you'll slap yourself in 3 years

>>42885902
Tbh I dont care for huge dicks but hate small dicks

No homo

>>42885967
Glad you're not a fan of small dicks.

Hope you like em wide as well tho.

>>42885928
but why?!?! im not dyel by the normies standarts. i've been lifting since 3 years seriously 5'11' 200lbs. i have good nutrition, i just want to get on the next level, everyone recomends me to start with light steroid cycle.

>>42882350
My loose skin isn't a problem, the fucking fat started falling off of me when I did keto and TRT

>>42885987
Girth is what matters the most imo

>tfw small penis but a bit of a size queen

>>42886005
Winny is a cosmetic drug.

>>42886049
I'm a grower but above average.
Glad you've got girth nohomo nothing worse then a pencil dick.

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>>42886209
>Glad you've got girth nohomo nothing worse then a pencil dick.
y-yeah heh...id probably just kill myself if that wad the case, heh

this is why I stick to anime girls

>>42885427
Have you dosed it ed/eod? e3d is too far apart.

>>42886285
Ed

>>42886298
And you have used legit pharma?

>>42886326
I've got a strip of legit pharma adex from someone but it might be fake.
Current ugl works the same.

>>42885829
You need to do more research buddy.

I've been on:

>25mg DBol EOD
>200mg Test-E E3D

Since Monday. First cycle, going good so far. Have a social event tonight that i'm kinda obligated to attend and it'd be weird if I don't drink. Would 2 or 3 beers be alright or would I fuck my liver?

>>42886524
>DBol EOD
what?

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Lmao this super Christian girl was starting to get cold feet about disappointing god or her future husband but I was talking to her about licking her clit to make her eyes roll back and sucking on/licking her nips while I fingered her. She's just like, fuck. She said most guys are too scared to make a move on her so she's never really gotten off.

Pretty sure she doesn't give a fuck about god or her future husband right about now.

AM I ON TRACK TO MAKE IT FELLAS?

>>42887048
>tfw when confidence is everything

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Is a 300/20/300/2600 split of p/f/c/kcal too retarded? I'm 200lbs ~15% bf cutting, walk quite a lot and lift every day, on trt.
From what I understand, being on TRT basically eliminates all need for dietary fat except the omegas, right? Since my test is fixed at healthy levels regardless.
Just wondering if 300g of protein is too much, I'm looking to get to single digit bodyfat.

>>42887048
r u chad?
u jacked?

>>42887180
>300g of protein
it's not gonna harm you but it's definitely overkill

>2600kcal
>cutting
alright

>>42887193
6'3 240lbs I'm kinda a fatty though. I basically look like most d1 college football players at the same size. Apparently like "if I punched someone I'd kill them". And no I'm not a chad I'm usually quiet and don't really talk to anyone outside of the people I know unless I see a girl who I like then fuck it all bets off.

>>42887142
I've seen the light.

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>>42887180
im vegan and had 100g of protein per day

300 is overkill bretheren

>>42887218
You should cut.

>>42887048
Kys

>>42887180
You could eat 1/3 of those calories, fatty

>>42887234
>he can't go one thread w/o announcing he's vegan
U vape 2??

>>42887237
I'm not fat I just walk around a lot and lift high volume
>>42887234
200ish should be okay then? It'll certainly save money on [spoiler]chicken[/spoiler]

>>42887236
I should. Probably shoot for 210

>>42887237
>kys
Plus she's not a tranny from 14th st. Wew

>>42887246
its not about me being vegan, its about making a statement and having a good argument.

And what better argument is there, than being vegan on 100g protein per day and still being jacked.

Yes, weed makes sleep feel godly. But i do it maybe every 2 months, not more

>>42886524
Nah you're fine to have a couple drinks. Just make sure you only drink max about once a month and your liver will be fine

>>42887218
so basically ur built fat. Not asthetic, but masculine because of your size.
What about da face?
Just curious man

>>42887269
It's the aas your tenfold capacity for nitrogen retention.

>>42887253
ya man 200g is prolly as high as i would go myself

>>42887294
Yeah lol watch out for the protein OD.

>>42887253
>not fat
>thinks 2600 cals is a cut and walking around counts as exercise
Mmhmm

>>42887256
Everyone knows the good trannies are at k or dupont.

Im just jealous n mad desu
>most guys are too afraid to make a move
More like shes such a selective bitch anyone who tries is just like a brother, her best friend

>>42887307
no, but everything over that just doesnt help more.

You need more because you are triple the size of me or the dude im replying to

>>42887284
I guess. I'm not like super fat or anything you can see the v taper but it's always been kinda prevalent on me. Nice is apparently really masculine since I've been on trt from age 16 after o ran some havoc with no pct and fucked my shit up. Rock a short full beard too.

>>42887325
>k or dupont
Shit really? I know 14th was always the old joke but I guess they've moved over the years. Gotta step up to those congressional level escort girls jerbear.

>>42887368
You're on gear, you can forcefeed growth. You can very easily down 350-400g protein and 700-800g carb and see lean results. You just choose not to.

I'm gonna try injecting my glutes for the first time this Monday. I've always just done quads. Will a one inch needle be long enough? I don't plan on aspirating because quite frankly I don't see how it's possible in that position.

>>42887388
this is stupid

starting my GHRP-2/MOD GRF tomorrow. probably wont do anything desu

>>42887380
K is like classic dude with a wig who will stab you tier but dupont is top tier
No homo

>>42887325
>and lift high volume
Believe it or not, I actually go to the gym and lift heavy weights instead of pretending I do and shitposting here. I easily burn ~800 calories lifting 6 days/week PPL and by not being a sedentary fuck

>>42887845
>burn 800 calories lifting
lol

whatever you have to tell yourself fatty, your 2600 calories cut will go great

>>42887874
Maybe if you spent more time away from your PC you'd burn a reasonable number of calories every day, too

>>42887905
I'm not the one who weighs 200 pounds at """15%""" bf, dude

>>42887845
>counting calories from lifting
Thats just normal activity
Lwft me guess, you count your o2 burned from typing at work too?
I chew hard sometimes

Been running 500/350 test E/oral winny for 5 weeks now. Thinking of switching over to 350/350 test p/tren ace on week 8 for my last 6-8 weeks. Any reason this would be a problem?

>>42881880
Test deca adrol is beast my dude you'll love it

Comfy af and solid gains

>>42887638
Elaborate.

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Someone please help me. I have test e and tren e. In 7 weeks I will be doing my first tren cycle. I want to bulk with the tren. What dosage of each compound should I use, and how often do I inject the tren? I do the test e every 3 days but don't know if the same principle applies to tren e.

>>42881800

>destroying your balls and sanity to look like this

roflolmao

>>42888159
Same ester, same principle. Go with like 250 test 400 tren. Good and simple.

>>42888170
Thanks for the prompt response, brother!

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>cycles hihg amounts of hcg
>feels balls grow day by day

>>42888217
The dick is supposed to be lower than the balls you dumbass.

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>>42888246
if I can't fix my micro dick then fixing the balls will have to do

>watching Olympia finals
>final judging for bodybuilding
>switches to bikini

Goddammit, just show me the pose down and tell me who won.

Any of you guys ever do TRT?

I'm on 200mg of test cyp every 2 weeks. Just got my first shot 6 days ago and my nipples are sore as fuck. Should I ask my doctor about an ai?

>>42887943
>lifting heavy ass weights for an hour and a half is "normal activity"
Sure thing, dude

>>42888476

>TRT

I'm on self-administered TRT, yeah. 100 mg/wk, split into two shots.

>200mg of test cyp every 2 weeks.

Your doctor fucked up. Test-c has a half life of eight days, so once per week should be the bare minimum.

>nipples are sore as fuck.

That's probably estrogen, yeah. That'll happen when you load up 200 mg into one shot and don't do anything to manage aromatization. For some reason, doctors are fucking clueless about this... Make sure he's testing estrogen when you get blood work done.

And yes, call him soon about it, because if this goes on for a while, you can develop gynecomastia.

If it's not too bad, you might be able to get around it by dosing smaller. Most people dose twice per week for stable blood levels. Check out steroidcalc.com for a more visual explanation of what's happening.

>>42888476
I once took dbol and estro pills for mtf and my endo said my estro was in range

So like, good luck.

>>42888487
>counting exercise vs calories burned instead of ontop of your daily activities

>>42888487
your diet isn't going to work and then you're gonna be the typical fatty saying cico doesn't work and blame genetics or some shit. thinking you burn 800 calories lifting weights lmao...

I hate fatties

>>42888562
how can you both recommend steroidcalc.com and still think test c has a terminal half life of 8 days

Absolute newfag here, has anyone had success with Australian domestic shipping? Even though prices are more expensive than importing I don't want customs/police ramming a dildo down my ass.

>>42888589

To be fair, I'm actually not sure. I'm getting conflicting information.

https://www.steroidal.com/steroid-half-lives/

>"Testosterone Cypionate half-life: 10 – 12 days. Optimal injection frequency: twice per week, each injection split evenly between each other (for example, Monday and Thursday)."

https://www.drugs.com/pro/testosterone-cypionate.html

>"The half-life of Testosterone Cypionate when injected intramuscularly is approximately eight days."

>>42883855
>>42883855
>How do you prefer your Dianabol?
I prefer it at 100mg, and I prefer my dbol to be adrol

What program did you go to when you started cycling? or how did you adapt your normal one?

What did you do differently?

>>42888595
Yes, my most reliable source was a guy that used paypal for payment, I had one btc source exit scam me.

My other reliable source, was cheap ugl orals and asin/ancilliaries, from NZ stealthed to Aus, which worked fine. (asin and others dont need stealth as theyre legal to import, just the roids do).

Also, the faggot meme chink is now shipping a few injectables domestically in Aus including test and tren at great prices.

They have a good rep with others on their gear, and Im currently using their raw powders while Im overseas, so next time Im back Ill probably use them.

did any of you get out of breath more from just test? my run time is absolute garbage now, i'm 7 weeks into a test only cycle. i can't even finish a 2 mile run, when just a few months ago i was running 2-10 miles 3 times a week. is this normal?

has anyone ever used cialis to lower blood pressure?

>>42890033
Sounds like maybe hematocrit / thick blood. Did you measure blood pressure and resting heart rate?

>>42887048
good for you my man.

but please put her on some food, seriously looking anorexia tier

>>42884056
>cut on 250mg. Throw in some anavar towards towards the end of the cut to get rid of that stubborn fat
so anavar will work only on very low cal diet and you have to be almost shredded to benefit from it?

>>42890679
It will work at any body fat, but it makes sense to use it towards the end of your diet, as it helps burn away some extra fat, which is much more useful when you're already so lean that you're having trouble losing any more fat. It also makes your muscles look harder. It pretty much makes no sense to use above 11% body fat.

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KEK phil

>>42890679
masteron is way better for that, fuck var it's for woman.

>>42890702
>>42890713
i just want to get pretty lean fairly quick i never wanted to be "shredded", but then again, i never wanted to be "big" or use steroids before

>>42890713
I hate him so much. Fucking spoiled brat

>>42890713
And by masteron you mean oral mast, ie superdrol

i've found 2 unopened vials of tren ace (exp date 01/2017) and one vial of test prop (exp date 01/2018)

what should i do with them?

>>42890881
Pin it all at once edition

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>>42890888
ok

>>42890780
there is no fucking shortcut

diet and cardio to get shredded. Steroids only maintain muscle during cutting.

>>42890809
he is, but back was def better than big ramy. ramy was more massive nut less defined

>>42890998
>there is no fucking shortcut
steroids + water fast

come at me

>>42881363
>Tfw steroids make your dick go limp

>>42884195
fuck this guy looks sick, who is that.

>>42890816
what do you think?

>>42891137
dream on faggot, there is no fucking shortcut. The fact you're still dyel is because you're desperately holding on to that fairy tale

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fucking perfection right here.

and that posing, insane!!

>>42890881
Suprising that there is actually an exp date considering its ugl. What are you going to do if somethubg happens? Sue them over illegal substances lel
As long as the oil isnt spoiled (probably isnt) the potency might be a little lower.

>>42890895
Thats a mighty filename dosnt leave anything unanswered

If I want to cut from say 18 to 21%bf, aside from doing keto, will t3 be ok? Or it requires a specific bf% to be effective like anavar?

>>42891475
Dammit I meant in the neighborhood of 18-21 bf% to a <12bf%

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>>42891475
T3 just increases your tdee by a little.
It also dosnt care if its fat or muscle it is burning, so if you have some gains to keep you better not overdo it.

But to be honest you better keep the fork down for that 100kcal boost especialy with that bodyfat.
It is probably only usefull if you are 8% and you are stalling and use roids to keep your gains.

Better go buy eca or dnp or a gag to plug your mouth

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Guys, I just found out my test is fake. Pharmacom Test E 500mg/ml.

I did my first injection last night, and now I'm just a bit sore.(0.5ml in each glute, expected to be in pain today since the high concentration).

What should I do? Take it as it is, underdosed, and get mediocre gains, or just stop ? I can't buy test from somewhere else, low on cash atm.

>>42891868
How can you get fake gear when they literally have there own factory shop which ships anywhere in the world with reship policy

And do you base the fake claim only on the amount of pip you get?

>>42891925
I bought it from my country, some website that sells roids. I have used websites like this in the past and everytime I got legit stuff.

Also, I have checked the verification code, and looked at fake vs real pharmacom. Apparently there's a lot of fake gear since 2016. Everything points out that it's fake. But some dude who was on 500mg test got bloods at 2200ng/dl, so that's why I'm saying, should I run this underdosed shit or just dont use it at all and stay natty? well half natty cuz I used AAS in the past

Okay faggots yesterday i had sex with a girl that hadn't seen me in 3 months and HOLYFUCK is this what it's like to be muscular?She was always touching and feeling my abs,back,shoulders etc,my libido is also of the roof because of test e

going /fraud/ was the best decision of my life

>>42891868
Why don;t you do research before you buy shit you inject in your body???
>>42892008
good for you you lost your virginity. It's really something be proud of

>>42891868
>>42892008
fuck you for having legit test and enjoying the life I should be enjoying too
fuck me for buying fake shit
:((((((((((((((((((

>>42891868
how do you even spot fake gear

>>42892064
how was I supposed to know it was going to be fake

>>42891925
Wait what factory?
Can you pm me on reddit?
/u/DooMooKoo

>>42892064
I'm 21 and had sex for the first time 5 years ago bruh

>>42892066
This shit didn't happen to me because i'm not retarded and bought from trusted sources

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>>42891973
Better do research next time. Tell your source its fake you want your money back
I wouldnt use it but thats just me.
Although the validate code looks funny since it is supposed to be a ruboff field

>>42892008
Good for you

>>42892118
Could have just image search it but i felt generously

>>42891868
how did you find out if it's fake? you did your first pin yesterday so i guess not by doing bloodwork

>>42892097
because you should do some effort to research the product on different forums.

>>42892178
I bet you're on of those cool guys on school. How do we call them again? Chads? yes that is you, chad.

he had sex 5 years ago, it was a crazy thing back then

>>42892249
I used to be an autist my whole life

I still am

I'm manipulating this autism to my interest though bruh

>>42892219
Verification code, which is the same on both vials,same as production number idk, what's that.
Boxes have the same barcode.
Looked at fake vs real pharmacom pics etc, it's fake.
https://www.eroids.com/reviews/lab/pharmacom-labs

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>>42892441
Haha
I mean i get it if you cant get the hologram right or the right paper finish bit not getting the right font is just wow

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Question:

I've been cycling 500mg deca and 500mg test depo (with AI on hand).

My prolactin and estradiol are normal etc.

Anyway, I'm experiencing being horny 24/7. I jerked off 3 times today will probably have to jack off more. I keep getting hard ons at the office and the like, which is pretty much the expected with increased libido and whatnot. What is also happening is that I'm jealous like a motherfucker, I keep getting rageporn scenarios in my head and I have to stop myself from from fits. Also I have the unbelievable urge to call up my ex-gf and I can't stop thinking about her. I also cried to a movie which literally never happened before.

Anyway, is the cycle making me fall out of whack? I don't want to fall apart and call my ex-gf only to regret it the moment I cycle off or do some boner induced violence because someone didn't wish me a good morning.

Have you guys have similar experiences while combining test/deca?

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>>42892968
weak minded chimpanzees shouldn't use roids imo. if it gets really bad you can rape your libido entirely with that there AI.

>>42892968
>My prolactin and estradiol are normal etc.
>I also cried to a movie which literally never happened before.
yeah I'm sure they are

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Is it ok to inject this top part of my quad right here? Ive always just done the outer sweep

>>42893611
It's okay as long as it's muscle man

>>42893611
i always pin this spot

i like pinning quads because the leg is in front of you and you can use both hands

is a good idea to preload your syringes?

>>42893729
The only thing I've pinned is quads. I don't know why idiot redditors get so assblasted about pinning quads. It's so easy

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>>42893781
forgot picture (not mine)

>>42893781
Depends on the context my dude. Do you want to preload your whole cycle in syringes? Then no. The roids can eat up the rubber and you increase your risk of contamination.

Do you want to preload the night before for an injection the following morning? Then sure go ahead. I do that all the time

>>42893611

Quads are the best place to pin imo.

Delts are too painful and awkward to inject. Glutes are easy but pain in your ass whenever you sit sucks. Quads usually have slight pain when you walk or squat, but that can be minimized by aiming more upwards on the quad.

>>42893829
>pain in your ass whenever you sit
i think that sitting enhances pip. I sit on my ass most of the time and my ass pip always lasts longer than quad pip

never even tried to pin delts

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where is friend estp?

>>42890061
i did not

>>42893611
Thats a different muscle, check the nerves

>>42893900
Delts are a pain and really youre supposed to only do the mid one which is even more of a pain

I pinned my Delts like once a month and got a huge abscess. Which I drained myself. Haven't use gear since. Jerry called me a retard for not going to the doctor and introduced me to the concept of sepsis

>>42892968
i'm the most chill guy ever. never understood jealousy or paranoia about my girl until my first cycle. i got wildly emotional and jealous about the dumbest shit. everything she said about anything I'd look further into it. stalked her facebook. asked our friends what she was up to when i wasn't around. got huge waves of jealousy everytime she even mentioned a male name. so surreal

>pmsf tomorrow
>need to eat all my cereal (organic baller cereal for true bodybuilt)
>need to drink all my liquor, filled a big gulp cup with tequila (easy to spill though, I should have used my shaker)
Weekend of spoils

>>42894363
Draining abscesses sure feels good though doesnt it? Afterwards I mean, hurts like a bitch during

>>42894418
I was so stressed I didn't even feel anything. Stuck an 18 gauge in there and pulled out about 10 CCs. Yeah buddy!

Jerry, i'm using finasteride and I'm not losing any hair though I was shedding before I started. I have duta on hand. Anyway, if I blast some test will Duta be enough to keep my hair?

>>42894193
Being a hooker/pimp/druglord.

>>42894323
>>42894363
I was exposed to chicken pox as a child to catch it instead of vaccination for that one thing, I ended up getting shingles (same virus from chicken pox which stays dormant) around my delt injection sites despite very particular about sterility and sanitation.

I dont know what it is about pinning delts that brought it out of dormancy at only that area, doctor said it was strange and lucky it was so contained to such a small area, meds cleared it up.

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>>42894450
I bit a leather belt lol

Im balding but I dont trust those drugs so im not sure but dutas the stronger one and test is about as hair safe as you can get, so youre as safe as possible Id say

>>42894477
What the hell thats fucking nuts

I feel like lats should be preferential over delts but Ive never tried lats Im afraid.

Dubs or evens and I pin lats tomorrow

>>42894617
Yeah Im glad it was only minor, I dont pin delts anymore lol.

After I got the diagnosis and googled shingles I was oh fuck dodged a bullet there.

I almost didnt go to the doctor and was just gonna keep putting clearasil on it. Thought it was just gonna be cycle shoulder acne, but looked slightly more like bubbles.

>>42894477
Interesting. Probably some kind of peripheral nerve damage from the pin, and the resulting inflammation caused the virus to go lytic somehow. Weird that it would only be there though, was it the entire delt or just a strip of it?

>>42894807
Not the entire delt, just a patch, and like 3 or 4 nodules that developed on top of my hand on the same arm.

>>42894418
>pmsf tomorrow
Here we go again
Good luck jerrybaer love you

What is pmsf

>>42894839
Where on the hand? What fingers were they closest to? Sorry for the questions, curious medfag here.

>>42894910
It's something jerry doesn't actually do, despite claiming to.

>>42894689
Thats so crazy
Does that mean you cant get shingles later now? Almost guaranteed for lots of people

>>42894807
Thats the thing with delts, the area thats nerve free is so small

>>42894883
T-thanks
If im good, in 2 weeks 10% if Im right
But im doing atleast a month no matter what

>>42894910
Protein modified starving fast

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>>42894477
you mean you got shingles from pinning delts? It's impossible.

once you had chicken pox that virus stays in your body. When you get cold, sick or anything else that lowers your immunity and weakens your body there is a small chance that this virus will get triggered and you will get shingles. Shingles attack only one side of your body. I had this shit last year.

pic related

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>>42894961
I do you fag
Ill fucking kill you

Well i guess on the weekends I just drink

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>>42894961
I think in this area, but it was about 2.5 years ago now.

>>42894968
From what I know you have the dormant virus forever.

It was the only time it ever resurfaced. Ive never had it before or since then.

>>42894973
Reread, I had chicken pox as a kid, and yes it was shingles and it was isolated to around my pinning area and a couple on my hand.

Doctor said its definitely the zoster virus and diagnosed it as shingles, prescribed the tablets, I also found the cream otc in one shot and used both which cleared it up.

>>42895041
Alcohol has calories jerrbear :(

>>42895101
Ok, so probably something around the C6/C7 dermatome. Unusual that it got activated by an injection in the area. Maybe a minor local infection that attacked the nerves.

>>42895195
Yeah, I used the site too many times instead of rotating, perhaps related to that.

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>>42895142
???

>>42893781
Dont do it if your gear contains EO. that shit will eat away that the plastic

I preload 7 slin syringes with tren a every sunday like meal prep

>>42895277
ethanol is metabolised for energy, you can think of it like a macronutrient, like how you can think of carbs as a macronutrient.

>>42895456
I'm pretty sure he was joking and knows.

>>42895142
>>42895277
7 calories per gram.

I am prepared for the memes.

600mg Test Cyp e/w (1-12)
700mg Primo Ace e/w (oral) (1-12)
40mg Dianabol e/d (1-4)

Share your thoughts

>>42895537
Goals?

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>>42894968
I am with you, well no psmf i do a 1,8k cut but 4 weeks 10% sound doable too

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>>42895561

>>42895456
Yeah its the ultimate shit empty calorie

>>42895478
>liquid
>per gram

>>42895570
Lers do it
#shredded
#7%
#bodybuildersagainsttipping

>>42895678
0.789g/mL dummy

i want to start cutting

>>42895740
Calories depend on the alcohol dunnit?

>>42895810
It depends on the alcohol content. 7 calories per gram of pure alcohol.

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If i have 1/2 vial tren E and another 1/2 vial of test E, can I mix them together into one vial?

will everything be OK?

Also, preferred dosing and schedule for Adrol?

>turns out that one of exemestanes metabolites is highly androgenic

That must be why I feel better on it compared to anastrozole.

>>42896852
More like you crash your estro with anastrazole ahahaha gtfo

>>42881363
i found a bottle of test enanthate that i bought last year but ended up not going on a test cycle and forgot about it. its been stored at room temperature for the past year. would it be safe to use it still or being out so long make it junk?

>>42896926
I've taken my e2 lower on exemestane and I didn't feel nearly as shit.

>>42881363
>1. I’m a beginner so what steroids should I use for building mass and gaining strength?
>We advise all beginners to start with oral steroids first
lol

I need answers:

when a cucumber expires in a plastic bag, would it dissolve to a dark brown foul smelling liquid with no traces of cucumber left?
We have this big bag with a small empty cucumber plastic and some foul piss smelling liquid. No trace of cucumber in sight.

can roids show up on a federal drug test?
starting a new job soon and I'm tossing around the idea of starting a cycle

>>42882195
You fucking idiot.
>Using test instead of hgh for cuts
Hgh would have worked way better than test for cutting and it would have had no effect whatsoever on your natural test production. Not only that but I bet it would have helped with loose skin you probably have. Also who the fuck uses test without working out.

>>42881495
Fuck that tiny faggot nano

Nandrolone is a superior steroid.

>The 24/7 fullness, like your muscles are filled to burst from the center
>Buttery smooth joints, no aches basically ever unless you fuck shit up. Little tweaks from the past disappear
>Boundless energy in the gym. Wonder how many times you have dropset before the muscle feels totally done. You'll never find it
>Systemic growth. Muscle, bone, tendon. Helps build your base up like no other AAS

Tren just isn't close. Leaves you flat as fuck without 400mg+ of test or Nand on top of it, makes you strong as fuck but the volume can't be sustained. Dries you out and makes you look good though. Not for bulks, great for short recomps.or just recreational cycles. Well, yeah it has a place in a bulking stack but really if you're looking for growth specifically it's not that great, especially with low test alongside.

This doesn't even take into account sides, which Nand is once again superior in. Virtually none, some get ED, mast and or more test fixes it in most cases.

I understand not everyone reacts the same, but Nandrolone is in basically every big bulk I do. Never very much, I like higher test, but there's some effects that nothing else will give. Try adding in 2-3mg/kg bodyweight next blast, do NPP if you have access so that you can notice the beautiful joint relief and recovery benefit unique to this wonderful hormone

>>42898064
Hey thats not nice.

Tren is superior to Deca in pure muscle building, please don't deny that.

>>42898165
>Tren is superior to Deca in pure muscle building, please don't deny that.
In one instance only

And that's in combination with HGH and insulin, because it makes the slin work better.

Mg for mg I doubt honestly that there's much difference. I think it's individual difference that determines it. However, Nandrolone won't kill your sleep, liver, kidneys and make you crazy as fuck, so it can be ran longer and higher dosed. It increases total work capacity, and is injury preventative and rehabilitative. It's a much better compound for building your base.

>>42898229
I agree.

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>>42898229
>nutrient partitioning
>anabolic ratio
>dry

>>42898354
Memes

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>>42898420
>nand is just as dry as tren
Yeah ok

>>42898427
They are oil not water dummy

>>42898274
still small as fuck?

>>42898918
Yes I am

>>42898906
Oil is wet!
WEEEEEET!!!

>>42899232
Water is wet, you can't mix water with oil so oil can't be wet. Injectable winny and other suspensions are wet compounds btw

>>42899408
>winny is wet because its not water
This changes everything

>>42899438
It is suspended in water dummy! This is why you need buprupion jerbear

I have no sex drive and gains are not coming like they used to.

Will HCG or clomid make me feel better?

>>42899497
HCG during cycle is a complete waste or are you off cycle? If you are and you've finished PCT a while ago, then get bloodwork done.

>>42894400
Feels good

>>42899624
how do you figure? i was thinking of running tren next time but i'm afraid she'd divorce me

I matched with a underage girl in Tinder, i will make you proud Jerry

>>42898354
Dryness isn't really important in a bodybuilding bulk. You're putting the bricks down of course you look like a mess, it's not finished product.

The nutrient partitioning aspect is of course a factor, but the other qualities of tren make it not ideal for long periods of time usage you need for growth. It works great to cycle in to a larger blast, to break plateaus and of course the other fun effects.

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>>42881363
If I'm pinning 3x a week, what's a good IP rotation? Have done quads and glutes only before.
Should I do delt, quad, glute for 1w and then do the other side w2 and go back and forth?

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give it to me straight
5'' dicklet here
will test make me any bigger?

>>42899852
Yeah dryness is just for show

Haven't ever run nand though, destroys my calves
Afraid even after my surgery

>>42899872
Generally want more injection sites to reduce scar tissue build up

>>42899936
Ur fukt kid

>>42899830
Bride her hard.

>>42899953
>more injection sites
It would be 6 total, across 2w. Plus each quad has 2-3 good points, glutes is a huge area, but delts is the only one om worried about. I use 25G tho.

>>42881363
So I've been out for a minute, is dinitro no longer around?

If so who is the new YB/Dino?

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>>42900032
I am doing delts ed since 30days, not the brightest idea but whatever.
But only slikpins so its all good

>>42900190
What are you taking you need to pin ED?
I'm debating doing npp EOD or ED just cus I don't want to pin that frequently.

>>42900032
Delts has a small area, true
Can easily add chest

is dry skin high or low e2, I forget

>>42900541
low

>>42900770
thx bby

>>42900190

Is that girl super tiny, or is her phone unreasonably large?

>>42900896
she's a giant and it's a tablet.

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>>42900981

I dunno, I'm not buying it.

>>42881363
fuck guys i might try my first ever cycle soon

i'm so fucking sick of natty gains, i've been lifting for 2-3 years and my biggest lift is a 3pl8 deadlift. diet is fine, sleep is good, i just get fucking fat when i bulk and barely gain any muscle.

should i fucking do this shit or what? i just want to be juicy one time in my life.

How important is progressive overload if youre on gear?

>>42901285
explain?

>>42901285
its like being a beginner again, you can do what ever the fuck you want and gain some size and strength but the more advanced you get the more you need a good program

>>42901285
Progressive overload is always important.
Your muscles grow though micotears

>>42901257
If your diet is good, there's no not to.

>>42901352
hey you aren't dead

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Good fucking morning goddamnit. Just woke up, drinking my disgusting instant coffee, listening to sad Jonny Cash songs, bout to hit the gym. Today is going to be filled with pain and suffering (like every other day) Why the fuck do i even live?

>>42901352
should i just stick to the preordaned test only cycle to begin with? or should i be a faggot and take anavar too? is it a meme? shits cheap.

>>42901440
if your var is cheap then its winny prob

>>42901445
60 for 50 tabs, seems average for it but what i meant was it's cheap in general.

>>42901371
I'm dead as fuck.
>>42901440
I'd probably stick to test for your first time.

Time to see a doc. Wish me luck.

>>42901461
thanks for the help sir

new

>>42901663
>>42901663
>>42901663

Any competing Norwegian bros here?

>>42897881
No, they test for rec drugs