/fraud/

couldn't link it in last thread in time

oh well

>>42862810
good luck with your pip tomorrow

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>be me
>doing psmf
>hunger is killing me
>caffein dosnt help
>can get ephedrin anywhere cause its the devils semen or something
>modafinil helps kinda
>orderd sibutramine

Anyone tried siburramine? Need some stories.

>>42863098
Robert Downey Jr. got swole

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Anyone have /fraud/ related infographics? Pic related

>>42863662

I've been shooting test off and on for years, About to hit go time with 500 test e and 200 tren e for the first time.

These random drugs freak me out more than tried and true steroids.

>>42863540
>go to supplements store
>ephedrine stocked right next to the caffeine
they know.

(canada is okay sometimes)

can someone tell me who sells dnp anymore because dinitro bailed on me

so I always thought test was supposed to be slightly yellow because my previous source's was yellow. new source's is completely transparent and apparently that's the norm, what made the old one yellow? is it the gso?

>>42863540

>doing psmf
>hunger is killing me

This shouldn't be a problem. What does your psmf look like?

>>42863909
lol of course it is a problem. if you're not hungry doing psmf you're not actually doing psmf.

you can't not be hungry taking in 800 calories a day without appetite suppressants

>>42863098
It's Sardinha! One of the best bodybuilders and trainers in Brazil.

>>42863920

But you can just eat more vegetables though. Why wouldn't you?

>>42864010
do you think vegetables have zero calories?

Will I see any difference if I go on anavar only cycle for 6 weeks?

Also, I've read that anavar is very easy and hair and wont cause hair loss. Is that true?

>>42863748
Gay panda labs

>>42864034
go away retard

>>42864023

Obviously not, but you can easily fix your hunger problems with another 200-300 calories of vegetables.

Do you want to lose an extra half pound per week, or do you want to be able to sustain the diet for longer without extra drugs?

You're literally retarded for this

How many of you guys pin VGs?

>>42863540
Is this english?
Were those nouns?
What's wrong with you

>>42864450
not right now as I've sadly developed too much scar tissue on both sides, but they're definitely my favorite site. it's just a bitch to find the first time (and then the next couple pins you're still like "wait... was my first pin correct?")

>>42864470
How did you find it? I've always just don't about an inch behind the bony part that is the front of your hip err I guess pelvis

>>42863098
Is Halo much worse than Superdrol? The only oral I've ever done is Anavar, and was pretty underwhelmed. Thinking about adding Superdrol or Halo to the end of my current blast (just 500mg Test E / week). Was looking to put on a few more pounds of lean mass. I like that Halo is supposed to make you aggressive, which is why I want to try it over superdrol, but am worried about the liver toxicity. Was planning on running 10 mg of either for 3 or 4 weeks.

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>>42863662
dont heat your tren too long :^)

any progress pics from people on their first cycle ? wondering how drastic the difference can really be in just 12 weeks

>>42864621
Guys.
Do I need to heat up Test E?
Also can I just buy needles from Walgreens or CVS? Found insulin needs and heard they could do the trick.

Hey guys, I'm that retard that's been randomly injecting test. I forgot to mention that I've also been injecting the exact same spot on my right quad every time and it's starting to hurt whenever I pin and bleed a little bit more often. I'll probably try the left quad in a bit but what's the easiest way to switch to glutes? I just don't see how it's possible to aspirate and do all that shit when it's behind me like that. Fuck even doing my quad is hard

>>42864648
Depends on how good diet is, and how much you are using on first cycle to how/often you train.

If you cycle like reddit does, 3 cycles will give you next to no gains.

It isnt a set thing.

>>42864659
melting point is like 30 degrees so if you live in some hot as fuck 3rd world shit hole then you wont need to heat it

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If I'm running a simple 500mg a week 15 week test cycle, do I really need Aromasin? Because it's a "suicidal" AI I'm afraid to use it and fuck my estrogen up permanently as I cannot get bloods in my country and so will have to wing it.

Should I just get Arimidex instead? First ever cycle.

>>42862373
>SO in the likely scenario that I don't get a test panel, I'm just going to ask specifically (and solely) for one. Probably can't cost too much. I just thought I could finesse the system without explicitly calling for a test panel, I thought wrong

Why prescribe test when they can prescribe statins, Cialis/Viagra, sleeping meds, anti-depressants, etc

>>42864724
pls respond and tell me if im being retarded lads

>>42864816
Retarded. Asin is pretty weak, but it's the type of ai that is generally better than adex.

>>42864724
Nigga the enzyme regenerates lmfao you trolling right now?

>>42864860
nah im just an idiot first time user

Should I just get the fucking Aromasin and be done with it? Also, I've heard that you should start taking AI 1 week into the cycle, this true?

>>42864894
I would to avoid being to hormonal or growing boobies.

>>42864689

If you are going to cycle, and your diet and training isn't already perfect, then you are a retarded curlbro

I'm that enormous faggot who was doing coke on blast until Grieve talked me out of it.

I'm on week 8. Fun. Feel the effects of the gear now, without a doubt. However, I feel my heart beating inside my chest and sometimes get weird sensations in my chest like I can feel a path that the blood is pumping through.

Are these normal sensations for a blast or did my somewhat recent flirtation with cocaine damage me enough for the gear to accelerate heart issues beyond normal?

I'm scared /fraud/ hold me. Idk whether to even do cardio or just take more CoQ10/Niacin or hop onto Telmisartan or something else. Too scurred to even fuck this girl because sitting in my desk chair just randomly I get like two pulses on the side of my chest adjacent to my heart (my right side) and it's not exactly pain but it's like a sensation coordinated with the pulses. Like "beep beep" but with a feeling instead of noise. Inside my chest.

Leg day today pray for me /fraud/.

>>42864940
You're probably fine and you're just caught up in your own head. With that said, you are a literal retard if you abuse drugs...especially in conjunction with steroids which itself is already a cardiac stressor

>>42864517
many videos and reference pics

big if you actually have muscles you can just kick out your leg to the side, the muscle that pops out in that general area is your vg

>>42864940
these are very much not normal sensations. have you even measured your bp? how's your diet? I doubt the coke actually did it if you've come off

You DO know that hCG gives you greater orgasms as a result of larger loads, right?

>>42864894
Oh ok. Well, aromasin is suicidal in the sense that it kills the enzyme responsible for the conversion but this enzyme eventually regenerates so it in no way is permanent.

Yes, you'll be fine with just Aromasin unless you're preparing to do some heavy cycle. It's also the recommended AI for beginners since it isn't as harsh on your lipid profile and is generally a little bit more forgiving.

People have all kinds of theories on when to start taking AI. It depends on the type of cycle you're running and the dosage. It takes about 4 weeks to build your serum blood levels up to their final stage when you're using the enanthate ester so depending on the dose you can start at the beginning of your third week and you'll be fine. The important thing to keep in mind is that all this shit is super slow acting. You don't just wake up with gyno. It literally takes weeks to build that tissue and it's pretty obvious before it even starts to happen as you get nipple sensitivity and other shit. I hate to say it, but the reddit wiki recommended dose of 500mg test-e weekly with 12.5mg aromasin on pin days (twice at 250mg each) is probably a very safe place to start. Beyond that, you'll just fine tune for mood and general wellbeing. You're at no risk of gyno or any other serious sides

To anyone who wants to take sdrol. Don't take it before bed without food.

Gives fucking reflux all damn night.

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>add tren
>immediately start waking up 4 times a night

>>42865119
>and sweating goddamned buckets of pure horse stink sweat.

>>42863098
can anyone find sources showing that the medical community has changed the definition of low testosterone over the decades?

also what do you think my testosterone level should be? I suspect I am low test without taking any formal test yet

>>42863098
that webm is cute

>>42865226
Hrrm i wonder what some complete unknown's test levels should be, with no idea of BF or age or weight.....

The general level is that if it is lower than 300 then you should figure out what is causing it, and if it is hypergonaisim then TRT

>>42865319
I meant to ask what should be a healthy level ballpark figure where if I'm under it I should try to get TRT. So 300 answers that. Are doctors likely to agree with that? Since the lower limit of "normal" is 264.

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HELP.

How do I do 250mg in this syringe.
It measures to 0.5mL/cc

That's the whole syringe. Is this correct?

>>42865355
depends on your age. if you're in 20s there's almost no chance of you getting trt.

>>42865355
Depends where you are in the world and age
I was 270 - but nope no one will touch, they assume its damaged from previous gear use. (HINT: it wasnt)

>>42865374
correct.

>>42865372
lmao you got slin pins

>>42865372
That depends on the ratio of whatever you're injecting.

If you're talking about 250mg/ml of test. You will need to fill the syringe twice.

>>42865397
Yeah I fucked up and couldn't find any and I'm too anxious to wait any longer.

What do.

>>42865403
I was thinking pinning twice a week.
125Mg/pin

Gonna go two weeks and then up it if I need to.

So one fill would be okay.
How does that math work?

>>42865410
lmao show us a picture of the needle I want to laugh

and you still haven't told us the concentration of your gear. if it's 250mg/ml then yes, 125mg is 0.5ml so one full syringe. why are you doing 250mg/week? why do you think increasing after 2 weeks an ester that takes 4 weeks to saturate is a good idea?

>>42865410
125mg would literally be a TRT dose. Unless you're low T that's not worth it.

>How does that math work?

250mg/ml meaning per millilitre (ml) you are receiving 250mg of compound. So 0.5ml will get you 125mg. 2ml will get you 500mg.

>>42865374
>>42865388
I'm 26, in Australia, I have never touched steroids or testosterone, I used to be muscular with low bodyfat but I suspect I have low testosterone now because I have over half of the symptons, and am weak in general now. I guess I might have to get the test illegally.

How much should I eat on a first cycle?

I want to minimize fat gain preferably. Currently at 5'9" 171 lbs 13% body fat eating 2800 cals a day 500mg test e per week.

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>>42865435
>>42865436
Guess I'm stabbing myself twice.

>>42865108

If you crash with asin, how long on average does it take for your estrogen to recover?

>>42865496
lmao how do you think you're going to inject this? like, where? this is really funny, you've clearly done zero research

>>42865480
Yeah good luck getting TRT in this country. Remember masculinity is toxic.

>>42865496
Have fun. You'll tire quickly.

Need clen in Melbourne urgently. Will pay twice the asking.

>>42863098
This video is so cute. I honestly want to get swole solely to experience this.

>>42865480
Out of luck buddy, 26 and in aus also.
It happens like this

>You go docs tell him no sex drive, 100%always tired, anxiety, feeling shit all time
>He gets you bloods, they show low test
>He either gets a second one and its slightly higher than 300 and is like ohh all good then, or he refers you to endo
>Endo sees you, says ohh wow you must be having a hard time, then asks you to take clothes off so she can inspect body, balls and shit,
>Says ohh you dont have a problem with low test if you have this much muscle mass (DYEL stage) you would get more wastage if you had hypergonadisim
> insinuates i have fucked with AAS and fucked up and doesnt believe a No
>She gets more bloods done, Test comes up a bit more than 300, but other levels whack
>refer you to neuro
Still waiting on Neuro

No TRT from docs for me.

>>42865607
What happens if you threaten to go private for roids?

>>42865629
>What happens if you threaten to go private for roids?
NEVER Do this ever

>>42865638
I've never done it but its just dumb and can cause you more problems if the doc is a dick

>>42865607
damn that sucks. here are 3 ideas off the top of my head, tell me what you think.

1. You do everything you can to boost your test for the next few months - sprinting a few times a week, estrogen blocker from a supplement store, research to see what else. go to the doctor for a routine physical, say you want an std check, a blood test, all sorts of tests, get your test and sperm count tested too. a few months later you do everything you can to lower your test. id have to look up what this would be but maybe no meat, no working out, etc. then you get more tests and your test has fallen.

2. what if you get an older relative to get it for you?

3. long shot but say you have gender dysphoria, you want to be a woman, you get estrogen, you dont actually take it, you come back in 6 months and say you want to be a man again and get test.

>>42865638
what is the consequence of doing this?

>>42865651
jesus just buy ugl test

Fraud I need your help

I just finished PCT from my test/ tren cycle about a week or two ago

I've had this pain and tenderness in my left nipple, like some sort of rebound gyno. But there's no lump or anything thank God.

I haven't had this issue coming off test only cycles so maybe it's a prolactin/ progesterone issue?

I have aromasin, Nolva, clomid and caber on hand. I have access to letro but I've heard that's a boner killer so I'd prefer to stay away. What should I use to make this painful nipple go away?

>>42865651

1. is technically your only option LEGALLY

2 and 3 are some of the reasons they hesitate to prescribe so much. because of manipulation of the system.

Essentially, get a full hormone test, fix up your diet, make sure you're getting enough sleep and not overtraining (natty problem)
Make sure you log it and make sure the when you see a doctor/endo you show this.
If they do hormone panel again and its still low and you can prove to your endo you're doing everything well and your endo believes you they will look further into the problem, most probably not TRT - Make sure you get cortisol test as well because high cortisol can kill T levels.
This will result in the legal way of going about it

If you dont want to fuck around forever with this, go UGL TRT, and pin for the rest of your life illegally and have a lifetime commitment of stabbing yourself, with the option to steron blast.

>>42865659
I dont know, i just think it is a dumb idea, because the doctor is the one who will control weather you get the TRT or not, so threatening them may make them be dicks about it.

>>42865668
But lifelong commitment to TRT even if Low T could have been fixed by something else?

Bit of a dumb thing to just not know any history and just think that will fix it, what if it densest?

>>42865698
fucking cant type doesn't*

>>42865651
imedical an aussie company that you can get whatever you want blood test wise BTW just order the bloods online

I'm a package car driver who works 10 shifts. If I do 250 mg DNP will I die?

>>42865957
10 hr shifts*

>>42865679
Pls help


>>42865957
"DNP will kill you" is a meme. "DNP fucking sucks ass" is the truth. You'll feel like shit and be pouring sweat even at 250 most likely

guys im on my 4th week of 500mg of Test E. I seriously can't believe how amazing this drug is. I don't want it to end. If only this drug helped me talk to girls.

>>42865971
So if I just bring two gallons of water I should be good at 250?

>>42865989
Idk, it's 80 by me right now and I've been on 250mg DNP all week and just bumped to 500 yesterday and I've been miserable since day one. If it's colder then idk go for it. If your truck has AC that is. If it doesn't, do yourself a favor and skip the DNP.

>>42863818
are you sure you didnt get suspension. the only transparent ones i had over the years are susp

>>42866019
Yeah I've got AC. Maybe I'll wait a month or two until the temp drops, it's still in the 90 here.

one year ago my squat was 330 and my dl was 415

Is a squat of 550 and a dl of 700 good after one year with a couple of months frauding?

>>42863818
Enth was yellow, cyp and prop was clear. For me at least

if i manage to get TRT from a doctor do you go to them once a week to get injections? do they give you test e or test p?

Anyone ran metformin besides fatlifts? I've got some and I planned on running it at either 1g or 1.8g ED it's the ER version.

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Current blast is yielding weekly physique changes

Please bring the hate fraud it only makes me stronger

Hi old anon friends miss y'all

As usual meanposting is not allowed on my blog, thanks! Funposts only

>>42866402
have you ever deadlifted in your life

>>42866415
why would you ask him that? you cant see his back or hamstrings

>>42866426
n o c o r e

>>42866415
Uh oh the deadlift police are here!! Hide your tapers everyone!

No I don't deadlift because it's a meme. People that aren't on fit think thick cores look shitty, try and spend some more time around women please for your own benefit.

The fact y'all give bimbo shit despite him looking like 99% of what women want and men want to look like is concrete proof of zero interaction outside of this echo-chamber.

What fit tells you looks good =/= what looks good to the majority of society. For your own benefit try not to take that personally and really listen to what I'm telling you.

I am a career criminal with zero redeeming qualities but I know what women like

>>42866475
bimbo started deadlifting/working his core in general after we gave him shit for it though

it looks stupid. you can deadlift and have a core without looking like a rectangle. the two aren't mutually exclusive.

How can I convince my doctor to prescribe me testosterone / steroids?

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>>42866531
I mostly just wanted traps.

>>42866385
start lower or else your stomach will be on suicide watch and you may have diarrhea.

>>42865108
Thanks for the reply anon. So Aromasin EOD is overkill, then? Because that's what seems to be the protocol over at reddit.

if the bitcoin seller is offline can I not actually make a trade? amazon gift card dude here

>>42866671
that's not what he said at all and that's not what the wiki says either, read more carefully

>>42866680
no shit dude, the guy has to release the btc manually. it's not some automated system.

>>42866717
I literally just checked again, it says to take 25mg Aromasin every day after a high fat meal. Am I wrong?

>>42866757
you're definitely wrong, where are you right now?

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/the_estrogen_handbook

>>42866768
I'm here https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/aromasin

>>42866768
oh and also here https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/your_first_cycle

idk where you're getting your 25mg eod shit from but no one would recommend that as a starting dose ever

>>42866782
still not seeing 25mg eod being recommended... the closest is
>the recommended dose of AROMASIN is 50 mg once daily after a meal.
and that's on a prescription website for postmenopausal women or women with breast cancer.

anyway, read the wiki for real next time, completely, and don't just go to random pages. you lazy fuck.

>>42866801
>It has been shown that 25 milligrams of exemestane is basically just as effective as 50 milligrams at suppressing estrogen, raising testosterone levels, and levels of IGF2 . It is therefore unnecessary to go higher in doses than 25 milligrams per day. Due to the active life of the compound exemestane should be administered roughly once every twenty-four hours.

That's from the page nigga. I've been reading through the wiki fairly thoroughly.

>>42866809
that says "going above 25mg is unnecessary" and "it should be dosed every day at the most." not "you should take 25mg ed"

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/the_estrogen_handbook and https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/your_first_cycle both have specific dosing instructions.

>>42866809
>It is therefore unnecessary to go higher in doses than 25 milligrams per day
>Due to the active life of the compound exemestane should be administered roughly once every twenty-four hours

these points are separate.

AI dosing is different for everyone, unless you are like .01% of the population or running over a gram of test, you shouldn't need 25mg asin ED.

>>42866823
>>42866835

Thanks lads. Aromasin sounds awesome except >alopecia

That's fucking scary. Arimidex is shat on because it's a rollercoaster to be on, way less stability than Aromasin, right? But at 500mg/wk test is that really a big problem?

>>42863818
Yes

>>42866091
yes

>>42866402
lol rousing for dis

>>42866565
godDAMN
Cobra City

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Man these night sweats I can handle, but wtf is up with these wet dreams?

Dont tell me more sex, my dick is exhausted.

Fellas if you had to bale on a cycle after the first pin (family member died, have to go overseas) am I gonna be fine? Was just 250mg test e. Should I pct when I come back in a couple weeks?

>>42867520
kek

>>42867520
Rip anon.

>had spare bitcoin left over from buying roids
>impulse brought LSD
ready to /fraud/ the mind too boys

>>42867566
I'd be careful, very low chance it's actually LSD.

you're all degenerates

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>>42867540
>>42867549
Thanks for the answers

>>42867664
I'm sorry for your loss.

>>42867680
Thanks. It's just double depressing since I'm worried about having fucked my balls as well as missing them

>>42867664
Go for a long ester and just blast trough your vacation. You'll fluctuate heavily but you won't deplete and can pick up where u left.

>>42867735
Nah I don't think one pin of 250 will have done anything.

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>>42865607
>go to brodoc about low test
>does a test its low test referes me to an endo cause he is not allowed to perscribe test
>endo thinks i am fine
>go back to brodoc he says he is a cunt, referes me to urologie
>they think i am find
>go back to brodoc he cant believe it
>tell him i have a hookup for test and ill just take it
>he agrees and says i should come back to be monitored and if i need AI cause for some miracle ai is okay to give out but not test

He always shakes his head when i am blasting but as long as my bloodmarkers are find and i feel better he is okay with it. Always complains about our healthsystem cause he cant do his job

https://youtu.be/SrJrPmP0cp0?t=726

LMAO, cedric is truly what i call alpha

>>42863672
Sounds like a stupid plan to run 500/200 test/tren

>>42865372
You are one dumb motherfucker.

250mg/ml test is 125mg per 0.5ml.
So you need to pin 1 full slinpin 2 times (a week) to get 250mg/week dose.

Get 1ml slinpins next time.

Tfw spent time looking it up and there's actually selective insulin receptor modulators.

There's one called XMeTA that's a significant portion as effective as insulin but without the problems insulin can cause in bodybuilding.

Tfw can't find this class of drug for sale anywhere

Reeee

>>42863540
why the fuck are you cutting that hard on september?

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do i have potential

>>42868150
australia?

>>42868368
For what?

>>42868368
Top tier potential for a stripper/gay prostitue
Live your dream boi

>>42868103
>responding 8 hours late to a post that has already been answered twice
what?

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>>42868368
For bodybuilding standards? Hell no
For 4chan standards. Probably, the bar is not really set high here.

Try wrist roller, i was cursed with the same toothpicks forearms as you. Now they're bigger than your arms.

>>42868942
'Mirin hard but they look stubby in that picture, how come? They don't look as broad in other pictures.

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>>42868964
Because angle. Try it yourself. Make a picture from your forearms from that angle. Same with your arms when you make a picture from the front or the side, they suddenly look much bigger.

>>42868942
apart from blasting gear, how do I bring up my arms? I have thin wrists and shit insertions, im doomed right? currently on a PPL

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>>42869000
You think gear is that important, stop believing in fairy tales

thin wrist? so me too. It's no correlation between those as you can see.

Try to vary with different exercises. Train your weak body parts 2/3 times a week especially with gear you can train them much often than natty.

>>42869000
wow maybe by adding in more accessories for the parts of your arms that are lagging

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>>42868942
>>42868975

Fuckin kek never realised how much my forearms suck.
Wrist rollers you say?

Also can't nail your angle.
Pls ignore lighting, VERY yellow at work.

>>42869025
If I may offer advice, supersets work wonders for hypertrophy. Feels great afterwards too.

I'm pretty dyel, at 1234 for reps tho. So take my advice with grain of salt

>>42869016
You should be able to train arms every session.

>>42869000
Frequency.

>>42869025
They're not that bad, trust me my forearms were half your size before i raped them with the wrist roller.

Wrist roller trains all the muscles in your forearms, that's why its superior

2/3 times a week. 5 sets until failure.

>>42869082
If that's necessary for you, that should do so

>>42869117
How long have you actually be training?

>>42869125
7-8 years now, but first years i was just fucking around without diet or consistency.

21-22 years old i started my first cycle
then year off
then another cycle
then some 4 months off
then cruise, then blast, now cruise(+ 1 year)
now 26 year old

>>42868942
>>42868538
>>42868538
I was quoting the misc meme but thx

What drugs give you 24/7 hard-ons?

>>42869053
Already supersetting, ignoring forearms because if I focus they explode out of proportion.

>>42869117
My gym doesn't have one, should I bring my own? I have some plates at home, should you go heavy on it weight wise?

>>42867483
The tren is affecting your brain chemistry. Howlong are you on already?

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>halfway into cycle
>still get massive swelling at injection sites

This gear cant be dirty if im still alive I dont fucking understand this shit this didnt happen at all last time. Is it possible to be allergic to certain oils?

>>42869366
5 weeks.

If it helps I've always had a high libido but I dream about sex as well now.

>>42869419
yes it is. you could just be injecting subq though if you're fatter than you were/using shorter needles/pinning a different site

>tfw still one of the most jacked and asthetic people in my gym
>still get roid accusations
>tfw 2 months on natty dose now
>tfw lost abit of that roid look
>tfw already feel like a twink loser
>tfw want to get back on next year but tfw hairloss

>>42869713
I always though hairloss was a meme, turns out it just doesnt happen to me, no ton tren, not on nothing

>>42869713
Run low test with high EQ or Primo?

How many CCs of oil can I inject into one spot in my quads at once? Will 3 CCs of EQ in one spot be fine?

>>42869732
i roided for 1 year and didnt lose any hair. I just noticed its becoming thinner, so i stop before its too late

>>42869739
thats one idea. I personally thought about running low test + high deca blasts and just cruise inbetween

is there any point runnig yk11 for >30 days by itself? will i need an AI?

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Got some 25 mg proviron coming in just for kicks with an order of test from a new source I want to try out. My buddy runs them and loves them, this is the IFBB dude's lab or whatever. I mostly want to run the proviron for the sex drive / energy type sides, what should I dose bros? I've heard 25 mg morning / 25 mg at night - so 50 mg ED

>>42869293
Try reverse grip at your gym then

>>42869847
Youll have pip

>>42869847
I pin 2.5cc with 0 pip

>>42869953
I did 2 CC instead. That should be fine, right?

>>42870049
Nice. I did 2 and 1 + 1 test in the other.

>>42869952
50mg ED works wonders for me energy wise. 25mg morning, 25mg afternoon for me.

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>>42870159
Sick, I can't wait. I think I got a bunk vial of mast and possibly a bunk vial of test e (or severely underdosed) so I'm stoked to try these guys out. Their asin was legit though, so was their Vialis (50 mg viagara / 20 mg cialis per pill)

Big plans this weekend papi?

>>42870345
Finish putting down the new flooring for my house.

Play vidya on my new gaming pc and just fuck around a little.

How about you? I miss my Proviron but I can't stay on forever.

>>42870487
Gross, reflooring is a lot like work but it's always worth it when it's done. Sounds like a helluva time! I've got an appointment for the tattoo I'm getting in lieu of a wedding ring (I work with my hands) potentially on Saturday if my dude's schedule clears up, besides that doing a big lobster dinner Sunday with the in-laws. Pretty stoked, Sunday is my 1 year sober anniversary as well too so it's a good weekend all in all.

>I miss my Proviron but I can't stay on forever
I've heard most guys say as long as your lipids don't get dinked, it's pretty mild - how long did you run it?

>>42870561
I like precise flooring, very satisfying.
Sound like you've got a great weekend up ahead of you, and congratulations on staying sober for so long!

I'm guessing Tren might hammer my lipids hard enough, might as well drop it to avoid issues.
Ran it for 50 days.

>>42869943
you don't have access to legit yk11 don't bother

>>42870561
How long can I stay on adrol? I feel fine

>>42869943
Depends on how strong the myostatin effect is, I havent tried it. I suggest itd be better to run with gear.

It is steroidal, but it might not even suppress you that much as the anabolic effect through the AR it gives is allegedly extremely weak.

AI - unlikely unless it doesnt suppress you but shuts down SHBG then you may need an ai.

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FUCK

>>42870734
>How long can I stay on adrol? I feel fine

6 weeks tops.

>>42870734
until your eyes turn yellow, you pee only dark yellow and your stool turns grey

only then are you allowed to stop adrol

>>42871014
Well Ive past that...

>>42871025

I dont seem to have problems with liver toxic compounds.

>>42871050
Just because you're not feeling the effects on your liver, that doesn't mean it's not doing damage. It's stupid to run such a toxic oral for longer periods. Instead try 4 weeks on, 4-6 weeks off, 4 weeks on, if you're going to run it for 8 weeks.

About to start my first Dbol cycle, how much of the weight gain can I expect to keep after it's finished?

>>42871050
adrol is fairly mild though desu. what's your dosage?

>>42871072
3 lbs

>>42871072
kill yourself idiot

>>42871098
100mg pre workout

>>42870196
anyone?

I know no source talk but are there sources that will give sources?

>>42871150
yes

>>42871162
where tho

>>42871223
websearch it long enough, and you'll find a link somewhere

What reading list do you recommend for educating oneself on steroids? Jump right into Anabolics by William Llewellyn?

>>42871267
Llewellyn's is a very good read, explains a lot really well (with regards to the mechanisms of estradiol, testosterone, muscle growth, etc) and probably has the best compound descriptions out there. the cycles are all fucking ass though, it's like they were pulled out of a hat

read the wiki in op also

>>42869161
Did you experience dick growth with all that mast?

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What should I do for legs tonight bros? I usually do a heavy squat pyramid, hack squats, quad extensions, hamstring curls, maybe some calf raises and finish off with 20 minutes on the stairmaster.

>>42871370
lol

Why is it so fucking hard to find legit var!?

>>42870196
>>42871146
pls respond

>>42871638
it's not, it's one of those internet memes like "ugl test is underdosed"

>>42872032
the "natties too scared to use real steroids wanting to find shortcuts with shit supplements" thread is somewhere else

>>42872278
oh. i guess ill keep looking den

>>42872652
i don't even want supraphysiological levels of T, just upper end of normal.

>>42869016
why do you block out your face and then openly post it later?? makes no sense. also i wish you had never shown your face, always thought you were alot more handsome before i knew how you looked.

>>42866565
everytime you post i have to tell you that you look silly as fuck. you have a cartoon superman upper body then anything below your chest looks like captain of the soccer team or something

>>42865048
Yeah I realized the retardation and cut it out.

>>42865050
>not normal
I haven't measured my bp since being on cycle. Diet is super clean, if anything I'm under eating because I stay away from anything processed.

Will measure bp and stay on top of heart stuff. Feeling a lot better today. Might have been a lack-of-sleep thing too.

>>42863662
Wait you inject mk-677? I thought you just dumped some in vodka and drank it.

>>42866475
keep telling yourself being athletic and actual being able to perform a deadlift is something not to do. id rather sacrifice whatever thot attraction genetics you have from having a super v taper for the benefits of being able to pick up heavy shit and be a healthy man

who really literally fucking cares what women like, they will tell you whatever you want to hear? i have an enormous ass and a pathetic upper body due to an injury and i hate it but i still get mires of girls that are with their boyfriends.
like literally my arms are pathetic like twigs not even joking yet i have the ass core and legs of prometheus and /fit/ would have a field day with me yet hottest bitches at gym with their aesthetic as fuck bfs still stare at me

its probably cause im just good looking in general but anyways

u doin pretty good for a junkie, fellow heroin junkie here

>>42865488
idk just add like 300 or smth, whatever bro just eat like a beast and see what happens

>>42864940
go get a ekg or whatever the fuck they do

you probably have fucked yourself mate, cant believe you were snorting tons of coke while on shit, so retarded.
i have a genetic heart condition, and it used to get me down, i cant fathom how i would feel if i knew i did it to myslelf with cocaine

>>42873755
...

yeah that's how you make the solution out of the powder. it's not injected.

>>42873765
Hey man I skip deadlifts because I overdo it and slowly sacrifice form for more reps/weights.

I lift alone with a shit mirror and I'd rather not risk snapping all my shit.

>>42873731
That's okay I guess. I'm the one securing modeling contracts so I guess that counts for something. Probably less silly than you think.

>>42873835
>I'm the one securing modeling contracts
Lol

>>42873820
>deadlifting with a mirror

oh shit nigger what are you doing.jpg

>>42873689
I am doing doing you a favor trust me. I wish you could post one picture of yourself to show us that you can backup your twink arguments.

For me you are just a permawizard crying for my attention and you got it, good job. Unless you can prove you are worth existing,kek.

>>42873731
He looks better than 99% of the people over here . But it's better for you to post nothing to protect yourself.

>>42873765
Sounds like repressed anger and selfhatred
Better talk to a professional instead of shitting on the people you wish you would be

This place is so catty lmao

>>42873911
How are you doing? Is everything OK?

How's your little companion?

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Is there problemo if i do first cycle with winstrol only on 18 years. I know shit i lift since a little child, i've been blessed with somewhat good genes but im high bf. And also btw currently im expiriencing something like late puberty - growing more beard, muscle gain, more body hair and etc, i though i finished my beautiful transformation. so though (stay natty not optional, now or later i will do it)

>>42873731
>>42873835
Honestly I like the superman look, keep it up, got me jelly.

>>42873907
>not looking at your own body lifting fueling the self hatred that allows you to lift harder
>not aiming the mirror while lifting at passing dyels to show their true form to themselves

>>42873955
>high bf
>winny only

Get out

>>42873911
Ur a handsome lad ignore the stranger.

>>42873798
Oh Im dumb, why the vegetable glycol though? Seems like just 39ml of vodka+1gram MK-677 would be fine. Why do you want it thickened up?

>>42873793
I wasn't snorting tons of coke it was like 2-3 baby bumps a day barely more stimulating than a cup of coffee.

I'm not saying it is not retarded. It is retarded. And if you did it to yourself using coke you would feel terrible. I started thinking long term and stopped. But I can't go back in time and undo what has already been done.

>>42874008
We all make mistakes, you learn from them and move on.
Damage has been done.

I almost killed myself drinking too much vomiting blood all over my desk. Haven't touched alcohol since.

>>42874008
Coke does nothing for me. So strange.

>>42874007
In guessing equal suspension + distribution of the powder?

>>42874031
Ah thank you very much.

>>42867782
what a good guy, I wish I could get bloodwork done at the doctor.
Dutch here btw so if anyone has any tips hit me up

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>>42873941
I am fine what about you.

He's growing like weed. Treating him like a princess

>>42873990
So are you.

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>>42874026
Same - I was hospitalized for alcohol poisoning and now avoid it even at special occasions.

>>42874027
Could be coke cut to shit with baking soda or something. I liked doing sub-threshold doses where you don't feel very stimulated or hot with an increased heart rate but still got a pleasant serotonin - dopamine boost due to it being a reuptake inhibitor of those things (in addition to noradrenaline, but I can't really identify what the mental effects of a boost in that would feel like).

Taken in that way it's a very subtle but pleasant boost that results in no real "comedown" or "hangover" to speak of. I know that you're talking about something else, I assume you mean that taking normal recreational amounts does not produce recreational effects. But just thought I'd share a different way of using it that I used to like.

That being said, after Grieve brought the vasoconstriction and bp sides to my attention I started noticing it more in workouts the days I would bump in the morning. Maybe placebo but enough to get me to cut it out.

>>42874075
That cat is great.

Have you found the compounds you want to blast on yet?

>>42874075
I love the way your cat sits. In almost every picture he is sitting in that way like a human. Does he always sit like this or do you only take pictures of him when he sits like this?

>>42874141
MasT forcefully places the cat in this position for every photograph yelling it can sit the way it wants when it stops being dyel and looking at his ears.

Jokes aside, lots of male cats sit like this.

>Got to fat during bulking cycle
>can't cut on PCT without loosing gains
>what do

>>42874227
Cut on a cruise dose

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My gf made a cake yesterday. i calculated it and it has 2400kcal
Told her to watch how much she eats. She aint fat or chubby but sometimes she cant stop. Yesterday she ate 2/8 slices.
Today she ate the rest cause sooo good XDXDXD half an hour ago she complained her stomach hurts.
Now she has her head in the toilet and pukes like a champion.
She had it comming lol i told her.
I love her but she can be fucking stubborn and irrational

>>42874268
You sound fun.

>>42874268
Calories dont count if you throw em up.

Thats poor self control though, dont let her near other men

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>>42874268
>1800c of cake make her sick
why are women so WEAK?

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What type of pics do you guys have on your tinder?

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>>42874298
I don't see the problem I eat entire pans of brownies and pizza pillows.

>>42873765
But senpai I don't care about being athletic. And saying deadlifting makes you healthier is seriously reaching. And fuck "mires", I get approached. I just had a girl from my gym find me on FB and DM me to get my Snapchat.

And if girls are staring at you but not approaching you (which doesn't happen btw, at least not if the staring is based on attraction) it'snot because you have a "great core and ass" I promise. Not tryna be hostile just giving some perspective since daddy ain't always gonna be here for yall.

You clean or still using bb? Life is so great off dope.

>>42874201
>lots of male cats sit like this.
Learned something new, thanks. I am more of a dog person. My experience with cats is that they can be very spoiled and indifferent to you until they want something in which case they will pester you a lot. It reminds me a lot of women regardless of the gender of the cat but I know all cats are not like that and like learning about them.

Did you know about savannah cats? They are wild cats mixed with domesticated cats. They are sort of dog like in nature.

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>>42874309
She has some problems with fructose. Always gets stomach akes when eating too much but she loves fruts. Kinda sad and hilarious at the same time to see that rollercoaster.
But no she wont stop eating apples and grapes and shit cause daddy said thats healthy thats when her stubborness comes in

>>42874356
Yeah but she weighs 1/3 you do (I hope) and her only exercise is changing the tv to tmz

Have to go to the docs on Monday because 'muh mental health'.

What the fuck do I even tell them?

>>42875517
Give him the cuckdiary

>>42875531
The appointment is only for 10 minutes.

>>42875517
you're a crazy person on the verge of being abusive towards your gf with a very unhealthy jealousy and you abuse steroids

he'll have enough for the next 6 months

>>42875517
You should show him these archives. Tell him about stalking women. Your weird diary. Your drug abuse. Definitely your weird cogdis LARPing as a zealot but not actually being remotely pious.

It's not going to work out though because you haven't internalized that you're an autistic nutter that needs therapy or needs adjusting.

>>42875537
Use the fragments you posted here

>>42875537
Pd: How is Redhead doing? Was she real? I miss her :(

>>42875600
She is well.

She is currently on a volunteer camp for kids coming from shit backgrounds.

How often do you guys switch injection sites? Is alternating glutes good enough? (Pinning one glute a week)

On tane and some mild orals, but she broke my heart this week buds.

Reaching for the bottle would make tonight a lot easier

>>42875783
I have 4 sites (glutes and quads) that I rotate through every two weeks.

Use to just use glutes until I aspirated a bunch of white foamy liquid, which I assume was either an abscess or a depot that wasnt fully absorbed. Pinning quads is a rush now.

>pick up adex and winny from a new source
>both ugl
>pressed pills look exactly the same
>I will 100% be mixing them up on a semi regular basis

>>42876015
maybe keep them separated/in their original packaging dude

Even though I've gained 10lbs in 6 weeks, and my balls are raisins, and I sweat through my clothes every day in class and through my blankets everyday at night, and I wake up with 10/10 wood, and my shoulders are breaking out, I STILL worry that my source scammed me and gave me bunk.

Anyone else have the same unfounded paranoia?

High test low tren confirmed for horrible sides? Been reading a lot of anecdotal stories on those various juicehead forums. But all that shit is worthless

>>42876234
tl;dr version is prolactin sides are heavily amplified by high estro and people tend to greatly underestimate how high their estro is just because they don't notice sides

so trt test + whatever amount of tren = goat, always. the test is basically just there to keep your test levels from crashing

>>42876312
Makes much sense. So prolactin is related to estro? I've read conflicting things.

I'm hearing conflicting advice about Var.

Some people say a Var only cycle is the best way to cut because no bloat and you keep your lean muscle mass with it.
Others say that you should be running a test base, even on a short Var cycle, despite the bloat, increased cost due to AI and harder test crash.

Is it a case of either option is fine, or is one superior?

I'm a SARMs babby, but I can get my hands on decent Var and Test very easily, the AI and nolva are the hard bits for me (got an arseload of Clomid).

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Well guys I fucked up. Got super drunk, started grabbing girls' asses and crying about how I wish I would just fucking die. Overall an alright evening I suppose.

>>42876932
don't do oral only cycles, retard

>>42877224
Even a 1 month Var cycle?

I mean, I've done three SARMs only stacks, and that worked out great for bulking.

Only real difference between the two is Var doesn't suppress as much as high dose LGD or YK11 but it needs liver support.

I pinned my quad 2 days ago and it's the worst PIP of my life, can barely move my leg at all. Been applying heat and plenty of anti-inflammatorys, is there anything else I can do?

>>42877284
I've got gnarly pip in my VG from dhb. Ketamine cream is helping a fuckton.

>>42877296
your test only thing didn't last very long

hi guys, i'm a 5'3 insecure coward with an immensely small penis. i've been told that there are many people just like me in these threads.

can you tell me what steroids can do for a total chump like me? i need insight from like minded faggot losers such as myself. please respond.

>>42877326
they can make your balls smaller to make your dick look proportionally bigger :-)

>>42877296
Is there a way to tell for sure that it isnt infected? That's the only thing im stressing about, i dont wanna have my leg amputated

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I have some gyno from a cycle in the past,

Is taking 120mg ralox ED for three months(as outlined in the fraud pastebin) or taking letrozole(as outlined here: http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/236880-all-you-need-know-about-gyno.html) the best, guaranteed method to remove old gyno?

Thank you for your time and answering my question.

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>>42877585
ralox

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>>42869666
im pretty scrawny and use a 1" needle which seems adequate since I pretty much have hank hill ass. should I be going shorter or longer?

Steroids are for losers.

>>42877630
longer is always better since you can you know, just use less. but 1" should be fine if you're small

>>42877683
manlets too

>losers
>manlets
pick both. kek

My fucking right shoulder is bothering me ever since i started my first cycle. When im doing shoulders at some point i feel burning pain like fatigue in right delt to the point where i have to stop while left one feels like nothing at all. Wat do?

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Guys...this seems a bit dangerous

>>42863098
That webm always makes me smile

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>>42878369
>b-but girls hate shredded guys! Bear mode is the way to go!
tfw blind girl probably couldn't tell the difference between fat fuck and "bear mode"

26 yo, been lifting since 16 but only seriously (SS) since 20, bf 12%, 6'4", 200 lbs

I'm getting my 23andMe results soon and want to start my first cycle, if it says I am prone to balding would it make sense to drop from 450 mg/wk to 300 mg/wk? Still have a full head of very thick hair, runs in my family but I'd rather not lose it (inb4 faggot)

>>42878330
Rich "coke is my pct" Piana

No offense to the guy but the whole point is to do it judiciously and not go crazy

this whole story with pewdiepie and firewatch is so disgusting.
I just want to stump this developers head onto the pavement and crush his skull with a jackhammer afterwards. Its because of little disgusting SJW faggots like him this world is turning into a fucking meme fest.
Faggotry should be a crime

>>42878860
faggot.
Why do you people always think a difference of 200mg will do anything for you.

>hey guys want to start my first cycle, but im thinking about cycling 250mg instead of 500mg bcuz thats totally make a difference xDD

If you have full hair you can roid for years and not lose it. And now hang yourself

>>42879085
i love you moosey

man I fucked up pretty goddamn bad. If you get blackout drunk are the things you do your responsibility? I feel like shit right now and want to hide from the world.

>>42879144
well depends what you did.
I get blackout drunk on every party, and i can keep myself from raping someone or beating a girl or whatever fucked up kinda shit you did.

Tell us, we are all anonymous here

>>42879243
this is me >>42877217


How should you even handle information like that though? I just woke up feeling terrible and not knowing what had happened.

>>42879075
Felix is an equally huge faggot for making a video about it and also apologising for saying the word nigger. Like fucking hell man, grow some balls. I know he took a hit with the Nazi jokes but that's when I enjoyed his content the most. When he didn't care.

He shouldn't have given the developer any time of day. Just take the video down and be done with it. Stop giving these little fuck nuggets attention for whining.

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>>42879337
If those where random girls forget it
If some girl friends say you are sorry
For the rest, everyone has a breakdown sooner or later. Forget about it and try to make your live better so it wont happen again

>>42879572
I know. It just feels terrible because I had no control over any of it.

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>>42879657
Learn from it, literally the only thing you can do.
Have another qt

>>42864660

You don't need to aspirate

>>42866402
>no abs
>no vascularity
>missing some muscle groups
>poor definition
>the size of those delts
In relation to the amount of gear you are on you look like shit.

Starting a cycles soon. Have only done test and var. Thinking about test and tren. I'm sitting at about 18%bf 230 lbs 5'10. Is it true what they say about tren? Meaning eat whatever you won't gain any fat.

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>>42879796
Could I possibly cut while on tren?

>>42879796
You will gain fat. Tren isn't magic. It'll help get fat gain lowered but if you eat like shit, tren won't save you.

>>42879810
You can cut on anything dude. Tren would be an optimal choice though for it's muscle sparing ability.

>>42879692
I understand now
this is what I'm working towards

If you were to choose arimidex as your AI, should you switch last 2 weeks for aromasin to avoid estro rebound?

Arimidex is so much cheaper wtf

>>42874113
i was thinking about adrol, test and deca. Starting just after my surgery then i am already cruising for 6 months if i recall.

>>42874141
Yes he sits like then when he cleans himself. otherwise he just lays like no each other cat

>>42879436
i agree with that. He should never apologize for stuff like this. It just tells the SJW left cucks they are right which gives them power.

>>42879337
were you in a random club and grabbed stranger ass? then you shouldnt care

Were you at a friends party, full of people that know you, and you grabbed asses? I would feel shitty too.
And yes its your fault. Le "xD i was drunk, sorry for stabbing your bf and raping you not my fault cuz drunk" doesnt count. No matter how drunk i get, i never do or even say stupid shit to people.

>>42879877
>adrol
>after surgery

Something has to get fucked up there with the RBC.

>>42880111
Why is that?

>>42879817
My diet will be in check. Not an issue.

>>42879866
sounds logical and reasonable to me

>>42879866
That would be the best method, yes.

A friend of mine is going on a cycle soon 400mg test e per week. Thing is he opted out of getting clomid and hcg brcause the prices were insane. My question is, can someone properly recover off a small cycle like that with only nolvadex?

>>42880278
>400
>4 fucking 00
>not 500 or 600
>he doesnt know why hes doing 400 and not 500
>if we were to tell him to do 500
>he would prolly say "nah man dont wanna fuk my health

im triggered again

he doesnt need hcg, just clomid and nolva.

>>42880320
No he wanted 500 but would of needed 2 viles which would of been like 250$ alone. And yeah i agree with you definetly better to be safe than sorry, but i was just wondering how a pct of only nolva would go. I heard of people doing it without many problems before. Was just curious on everyones opinion

>>42880335
in my opinion nolva alone would work just fine, but i dont know enough about that so dont quote me on it.

What's better 10weeks of test e at 400mg/week or 500mg/week for 8 weeks?

>>42879817
200mg test is more than enough to spare muscle and retain nitrogen on a cut. That's a waste of gear, add being stupid to the therapy list.

>>42880360
i want to crush you retarded head of an imbecile into the pavement and let it rot there

>>42880425
But you have child's hands.

>>42879877
Sounds good. Just know that Deca isn't as great as many people make it out to be, but that might just be me being used to Tren.

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>>42880443
sad but true

>>42880470
why are you saying that. I heard it yields the same gains as tren. dry too if you keep test low and prolactin in check

>>42880744
I ran test higher but I looked poofy as fuck. I bulked clean and hard but feel like I gained more fat the muscle.

Now I'm running Tren and I can eat like a motherfucker and see weekly changes in muscle increase.

>>42865372
jesus christ you are going to die.

get someone else to do it for you please.

>>42880470
I dont like dbol/deca for the fact that you are a waterballoon while on it. Id rather run primo/var/tren/EQ/anadrol

>>42880744
Nandrolone is great aesthetically at mid to low doses for looking full but I prefer eq as my long ester mass product; quality > quantity. Eq is dry, creates a nice grainy shoulder girdle and fun vascularity. Comparatively, nandrolone has around 50% of the gains whoosh away because of water weight. Nice for a thick cosmetic look but it's never lasting.

Y'all babies want a short term quick fix not realizing it's a marathon.

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>>42881009
U drppped something bibmno

>>42880936
These are my exact feelings, I'm in to look good year round.

Is British Dragon a good brand? It's almost half the price of other brands

>>42881009
Then wouldnt DHB be even better than EQ, or at least not require as high doses?

>>42881009
Whats a comfy EQ dose for cruise gains?

>>42880320
Sometimes test E comes in 200mg/ml.

Some people think in milliliters not in milligrams.

Lmao. This super Christian girl hit me up for a hookup but she's hesitant since she wants to save herself for marriage. Super sketch and I don't want to end up with a kid accidentally.

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>>42879906
I guess booze affects people differently then. Because for me I've tried killing myself while drunk multiple times, but I'm not depressed normally. I don't know, maybe underneath I'm a massive fucking mess that wants to fuck and die and cry.

It actually makes me question myself. Maybe I should see a shrink or something.