I'm doing a three day zero cal water fast. What am I in for here?

muscle loss

a headache

>>42856752
massive gains

>>42856774
>We evolved to become litteral fat balls that can't move when there is nothing to eat

Really made me think

You'll probably feel thirsty and maybe hungry too.

>>42856817
No , you lose a lot of fat , but also a lot of muscle .
And IT IS logical for our bodies to shed muscle in period of famine ,because it require a lot of energy to maintain and strength is NOT linearly correlated to mass , you can lose lot of mass but only little strength.

>>42856752
You're in for a meme way to not gain muscle

bulimia

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just hit day 72 hours fasting for the first time, 2nd day dinner time was hell but i woke up day 3 not hungry and full of energy all day shits weird man

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>>42856864
I have bulimia I just forget to throw up

>>42856774
> just 3 days
only minimal, muscle loss would be only significant after 10+ days

>>42856961
should I try 7-10 days instead? i want to reach godhood

>>42856752
3 days? You're in for mild inconvenience. That's it.

You'll be hungrier than normal, and maybe a bit more tired in the evenings.

>>42856961
>>42857003
>>42857066
Not sure if joke or if some people seriously think they can lead a normal life without eating for a whole week.

Are you supposed to lift when you are fasting?

>>42856936
>day 72 hours
Kinda believe you

>>42856961
Posts like this is why you should never take advice from /fit/

>>42856752
I did four days before.

First day was the hardest, but then I just felt normal, not even hungry.
On the fourth day I ate some steamed vegetables in the evening and then next day normal food again.

>>42857079
OP asked about 3 days. I've fallen for the meme and fasted Monday-Friday a few times. It's easy as piss.

>>42857003
>>42857079
>>42857110
i just said that you won't lose a significant amount of muscle after 3 days. which is true. but losing weight is a long uphill battle. there are no shortcuts, doing prolonged water fasting to lose weight is pretty retarded because you'll look like a skinny-fat blob in the end and hate yourself.
i only see water fasting as a reasonable option if you are morbidly obese and can't exercise effectively anyways.

that being said, if he wants to do a water fast as some sort of self-control exercise he should do it. maybe he will learn better self-control and discipline, who knows. i'll always recommend IF or OMAD as a permanent lifestyle though, forming a healthy relationship with food and exercise should be the end-goal. i do high intensity cardio and lift on the same day most days, so IF is hard enough.

>>42856752
the euforia feeling when the autofagy starts
then you start peeing gasoline
and you realize you are destroying your kidneys, your liver
then 2 days later, you wake up with bloodshot eyes, like you are just coming back from swimming in a pool
that is when you are destroying your eyesight

>>42856843
Uh shut the fuck up you're fucking up my thread. I'd you don't agree go somewhere else

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>>42856774
>>42856843
>>42856864
>>42856961
>>42857079
>>42857166
>>42857234
> ppl who have never fasted in their life
yet have and give fucking retarded opinions

>listening to fucktards on /fit/

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>>42857339
>ppl who have never fasted in their life
you know shit about me, mate

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>>42857383
Not eating between breakfast and lunch doesn't count as fasting fatso

Also
>muh muscle loss meme
Pic related

>>42857433
There is still muscle being consumed. There is still muscle being lost.
Way to be so fucking stupid.

>>42857433
how about taking liver, kidneys and pancreas health into account

Really bad diarrhea.

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>>42857460
Protein != muscle.

Also there's lots of studies that show lean mass stays the same when fasting.

>>42857482
Please show some evidence that fasting is detrimental to these organs.

>>42857460
Learn to read and comprehend the fucking graph I posted

Shouldn't you be in school?

>>42857482
How about you give me some links to prove your claim?
Otherwise educate yourself on the subject

>>42857433
Study done on obese people who have shitloads of fat to lose and not a lot of muscle.
Obviously your body will retain muscle to the best of its ability when you hardly have any.

>>42857114
Yeah OP asked about three days, I was talking about other posters who mentioned week-long fast
I read articles with people writing down their fasting experiment: you basically have to put your life on pause during the time you fast, because you can't do anything else except maybe for walks.

>>42857537
>can't disprove anything I say
>EDUCATE YOURZELF BUD DO THE RESERCHH

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Do you guys know you fast every single night, right?
do you know why is it called break-fast, right?
BREAK
FAST

mind blown
click like and subscribe

>>42857482
>organs not having to work somehow damages them

>>42857627
>organs not having to work
do you even live?
do you know what autofagy does?
fasting puts liver, kidneys and pancreas into overdrive

liver: protein and fats conversion into glucose
pancreas: insulin to counteract adrenalin and cortisol
kidneys: get rid of all the waste

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>>42857626
damn man, never thought of that.

>>42857482
But just yesterday read a study that said a low cal 600 a day diet for 8 weeks can eliminate diabetes?!?

if you want the benefits of fasting without going full blown guru fag, you just need to stop eating snacks
ie: breakfast at 8am
lunch at 2pm
dinner at 9pm

there you have it: 11 hours of fast every single day + the hours post digestion (about 2x2)= 16 hours of fasting every day without looking stupid, and having social life

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death

>>42857669
that shit better insulin sensitivity
the thing is scientists are omitting the physical activity everytime, to sell you food

high intensity training effects are equal to a huge calorie restriction without any of the downsides
AND YOU GET SOME SUN, AND MAYBE SOME VAGOO TOO FOR GOING OUT

>>42857678
>Eating breakfast
I'm never hungry in the morning. I just can't do it.

>>42857733
then your dinner is too heavy

>>42857749
Even if I only ate a salad for dinner, I still wouldn't be hungry in the morning.

I always need 2-4 hours after waking before getting my appetite worked up.

>>42857821
do you eat dinner too late?
i found that i wake up naturally about 10 hours from dinner
never fails
so that if i have to get up earlier than those 10 hours, i don't want to have breakfast

>>42856774
According to the studies cited in this video, muscle loss is higher in a caloric deficit vs fasting completely: https://youtu.be/APZCfmgzoS0

>>42857847
yeah but fasting is not sustainable overtime

this is like comparing an occasional 10K run to running every day

yes, it is true you burn more calories during a sprint, but doing it one time is worse than cardio every day

>>42857832
Maybe I should try having it earlier.

I mostly eat 2 meals a day, when I have breakfast I tend to skip lunch and have an early dinner.
And when I skip breakfast I have late lunch and late dinner.

>>42857882
What do you mean "over time"? In a max. 15 day fast you can lose a ton of fat and you normally don't have much of it anyways if you're "fit". Just leaning up with that should be ok, especially when you eat clean the rest of the time.

>>42857587
No one has to disprove anything you've said because you haven't proven a fucking thing idiot.

>>42857908
let me clarify
you can live on a calorie restriction, because once you get to the new weight, the new calorie value is less than what you eat... so you live forever in that calorie restriction

you can't live on a fast
it is that simple
getting into a certain weight using any technique that is not sustainable for your life doesn't give anything other than a momentary benefit
and worst of all, from a metabolic perspective, once you resume into a normal diet, your body will retain more fat to get ready for a new fast

think about that people from the TV program, that go into an island, and stop eating for weeks... they come back slim as fuck... 3 months later they are fatter and balder than ever

>>42857948
>think about that people from the TV program, that go into an island, and stop eating for weeks... they come back slim as fuck... 3 months later they are fatter and balder than ever

except they weren't fasting

>>42857948
Now I get you!
I don't view fasting as a permanent solution. For me, it's rather a corrective factor (similar to the bulking/cutting scheme).
I became a fatty by not caring for my appearance and eating 4 bags of chips a day.
I changed my eating habits to be healthy and not as calorically dense, but there's still a bit of fat.
I feel bad while cutting and have no energy for lifting. So I just fast for a short amount of time, lose a lot of weight and my lifts don't suffer as much, since I'm not cutting for 8 weeks straight.

It's a weightloss instrument for people who have their diet in control.

>>42857948
You sound like someone trying to lifecoach an obese person

>>42857971
i am losing hope here
fasting is a temporary solution
you can't live without eating food, so that once you resume your diet, you will get even fatter (and stupid)
calorie restriction works because the body has time to get used to that new energy levels, the same you get fat after years of stuffing your face, and not by stuffing your face for one day

>>42857998
i'm not the guy you were replying to and i'm not responding to anything in your post other than the last line, which is demonstrably untrue.

>>42857988
Addendum: Obviously you'd then have to gauge how many calories you need after the fast, but that doesn't take long

>>42857988
i agree, fasting is a good tool for a cool jumpstart into losing some fat
fasting is amazing if you are addicted to food, because it shows you that you can live with a lot less food

but exactly as this guy is saying: he got fat eating 4 bags of chips a day
you won't get fat by having 8 icecreams a day
the same you won't get ripped by not eating for 24 hours

worst of all, fasting turns into a binge disorder, something Youtubers promote everytime like it is some kind of feat, eating 5 burgers on a sitting, and stupid shit like that

>LOOK AT ME GUYS, I CAN EAT 100 POUNDS OF PASTA (after not eating for 2 days straight, and roiding, but i won't tell you that)

>>42857998
Actually, it's the other way around.

Caloric restriction makes your metabolism slow down over time and you'll regain that weight if you ever resume eating normally.
Fasting makes your metabolism go up slightly and when you resume eating normally it stays that way.

Try watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F5o0a4p_3U

>>42858034
>you won't get fat by having 8 icecreams in one day
typo

>>42857998
i am losing hope here
caloric restriction is a temporary solution
you can't live without eating food, so that once you resume your diet, you will get even fatter (and stupid)
fasting works because the body has does not drop to lover energy level needs.

Ofcourse if after fast you start overeating you will get fat again. Just like with caloric restriction

>>42858039
no, because you are training during that calorie restriction

>>42858043
isn't fasting a calorie restriction? you are defending not eating, and destroying your adrenals
are you a youtuber? find a better job

>>42858043
>caloric restriction is a temporary solution
no, it is not
because you let your body get to a new energy balance
caloric restriction + exercise is the definitive way to lose weight in a healthy manner
fasting + not doing anything is a fat joke, to further down the issue in 3 days

>>42857339
>ppl
What's push pull legs got to do with anything?

Fasting is for people that have absolutely no muscle mass and loads of fat.
And even then it's stupid because you could also be working out and making way better gains while losing weight instead of trying to rush it and ending up skinny fat.

>>42858090
Being in a caloric deficit until your BMR meets your caloric intake is a great way to have a shitty experience during training because you're always out of energy. Many studies say that dieting as hard and as fast as possible leads to the fewest muscle loss. This is a weightlifting board, people in the /fat/ thread need not apply for this.

>>42858108
thank you, man
at least someone is still sane here

>>42858109
i am comparing it with training while fasting for 3 days
what is more calorie restricted? eating 300kcal less or not eating for 3 days?

>>42858049
I see, that would work.

I'm not really into fasting or calorie counting, but if you don't exercise fasting will probably be healthier than dieting.

>>42858090
I prefer just eating healthier and working out more.

>>42858121
the latter, obviously (assuming a 3000kcal BMR). And as I wrote, the harder the deficit, the faster the weightloss and the lower the muscle loss because the body doesn't have much time to start breaking down muscle.

desu here, i think the best system possible is training hard... in a matter of 4 weeks your hunger levels adjust to your traininig, and you unconsciously end up eating for your training

cardio is mandatory, ofc

>>42857998
>fasting is a temporary solution
>you can't live without eating food
Whooaa, so this is the power of /fit/?Really got those neurons firing.
Is this your first day here, have you ever done cycles of bulking and cutting before? Do you understand the concept of gaining mass to build muscle and then shedding some of the excess fat so you can go back to gaining mass without being fat as fuck?

Stop posting please.

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>>42858146
do you know what is reading comprehension?
wtf

>>42858161
Stop posting any time newfriend. You might also try to back your retarded opinions up with fact, or watch the video already posted in this thread that refutes your shitty broscience.

also do you knew what ist spelling and gramer xdddDD

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>>42858190
>gramer xdddDD

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>>42858194
>gets shut down with zero evidence to back up claims
>poor grammar and no punctuation
>posts images to save face when called out on it

>>42857821
Smell my pussy, please.

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TAKEAWAY (before the fasting shills create another thread or derail this one):

YOU FAST EVERY SINGLE NIGHT
YOUR BODY DOESN'T NEED STUPID YOUTUBE GURUS
THE PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE USE STEROIDS TO MAINTAIN MUSCLE MASS, AND BINGE TO RECORD VIDEOS FOR VIEWS

TRAIN AND EAT
RUN AND EAT
EVERY SINGLE DAY

THE ONLY BEST WAY TO DO IT IS DOING IT
GOOGLE METABOLIC FLEXIBILITY

fuck you shills, find a real job

>>42857088
best off doing cardio or something, or some light weights until your body switches over to keto mode, then go for it

>>42858099
HAHA
GET IT EVERYBODY
ITS LIKE WHEN U LIFT THE WATES

>>42858238
Three body switches to keto mode after less than 3 days, lifting just accelerates this by flushing the glycogen stores... In a 5x5 you could just do as before (obvously next-to-no progression)

>>42857482
you think homo sapiens would have survived this long if that shit just started getting fucked as soon as we couldnt find food one day? i am convinced there are CICO shills trying to derail fasting redpill threads

>>42858229
>fuck you shills, find a real job
Do you know what shill means?

There is nothing to be earned by shilling fasting, because no entity or organization can earn money or influence by someone 'not' eating.
You are in fact the shill, coming into a thread and spouting your uninteresting flawed arguments in favour of food industry and google.

>>42858238
>>42858258
Keep lifting but with lower weights, since your body wont have the resources to heal micro fractures there's no benefit in pushing yourself too hard.

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>>42858262
>homo sapiens would have survived
do you know what is life expectancy, and medical health?
>>42858270
>nothing to be earned by shilling fasting
>About 1,450,000 results
no, nothing at all
OH LOOK, the video posted is the first result
interesting
hope the ad money is paying rent, Thomas

>>42858229
>shilling for fasting

Shilling for NOT BUYING/EATING/DOING anything...

Wew, you are a special kind of retard are you

>>42858322
sure: >>42858310

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A valuable experience. You'll be a better man afterwards. I'm thinking about doing a 36h-48h fast just for fun.

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>>42857626

I wonder, why does virtually no bodybuilder cut by prolonged fasting if it, as you claim, allows them to maintain lean body mass?

Let's take it further: We all know we can build muscle a lot more easily when we are fat. Why does no one bulk to 35% BF, max out his muscle mass, and then cut down to 8% by prolonged fasting in intervals?
I mean clearly, according to you, he would barely lose any muscle mass and end up being huge and lean?

>>42858292
I'm about to forcibly penetrate your macro fracture.

>>42857733
Any meal is breakfast if it's the first meal of the day

>>42858368
I wonder, why does fasting make you SOMAD?
Is it because you eat Seventy-One Meals A Day?

>>42858393
What? I'm litterally just asking questions, calm down nerd

>>42858368
Bodybuilders and boxers fast all the time before competitions and weighings to get their body fat close to minimum.

I don't think they lose any muscle mass.

>>42858403
the thread is full of reasons to avoid the memefasting, but there are at least 2 youtubers insulting and going aggro

>>42858412
yeah, a weight they regain in 2 days
hence why fasting is stupid

>>42858368
They do fast, so your entire point is reduced to nothing.

>>42858412
What? They do water cuts, never heared of a bodybuilder cutting for stage form by PROLONGED fasting.

>>42858424
NO professional bodybuilder goes a day without his protons

>>42858403
Oh sorry about that my man. I didn't notice that you were littttttttterally just asking questions.

>>42858423
>the thread is full of reasons to avoid the memefasting
True, but fasting for a week per year is healthy as fuck.

>>42858453
>full of reasons
>not even a SINGLE study is posted which undermines fasting

Well memed fucktards

>>42858432
Define prolonged.

>>42858499
More than 3 days.

>>42858523
Define more.

>>42858541
Define define

>>42858523
define days

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>>42858552
>>42858541
>>42858555
Definite implications

>>42858491
>study
you posted the first result for fasting on youtube

>>42858623
And you obviously didn't watch it.

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>>42858659
and you obviously read the sources of the vid
are you happy getting clicks from fat people? you are cashing on their health
worst of all, you probably are fasting now, for the cognitive gains

Because humans have always had access to three meals evenly spread throughout the day.

>>42858700
I always feel drowsy as fuck after a meal, makes it hard to read and study. Worst of all is reading the dumbass shit uneducated thirdworlders like you keep spouting.

>>42858755
>feel drowsy as fuck after a meal,
that is insulin resistance, my lad
quit being a lazy fuck, and train those carbs

>>42858712
You fasting fags don't get it. There is a difference in surviving and peak physical condition. If you don't eat for days, your lifts will 100% suffer, your recovery will 100% suffer, your physique will inevitably 100% suffer. If obese fuckers want to loose some quick wait, who gives a fuck, but don't preach fasting like its optimum over hitting macros ever day.

>>42858789
You deficit fags don't get it. There is a difference in surviving and peak physical condition. If you eat a deficit for days, your lifts will 100% suffer, your recovery will 100% suffer, your physique will inevitably 100% suffer. If obese fuckers want to loose some quick wait, who gives a fuck, but don't preach deficit like its optimum over hitting macros ever day.

>>42857733
i smoke weedevery morning just so i can down my protein shake

>>42858970
I want to take a ride on your son's disco stick

Just broke a 2 day fast with an 8th of wine.

Reallly feeling it right now.

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Posting a youtube link as a 'source' should be an automatic ban on /fit/

>>42859213
I'M SUCKIN' ON PENIS
WHOOOOA
I'M SUCKIN' ON PENIS
WHOOOOA
I'M SUCKIN' ON PENIS
WHOOOOA
AND DON'T IT FEEL GOOD

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>>42856752
sleepless nights
atleast when i restricted far too much i didnt sleep much