/FAST/ WHY AM I SO HEALTHY EDITION

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READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING DUMB QUESTIONS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQpsFTVAqpA

>>42819409

Thought I would stop by and share an interesting YouTube channel of a fitness enthusiast who does a 16-24 hour fasting routine where he eats one meal a day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vgvRhx2xPI

>refusing to eat for a few hours more between meals
>fasting

Could this board be any less interesting?

>>42819884
we have a decent number of people do 7+ days

>>42819884
I did 3 days about a month ago. I'm 12 hours into a 7 day fast now. It's fun.

>>42819884

Any period of time between meals is called a fast, idiot. This is /fit/ we aren't going to be fasting for months for e-cred.

I am here to do what works

Just started fasting today. Weather is bad for outdoors gym, so I'm going to do some exercises indoors. Instant coffee tastes even worse than normal one.
Currently at ~73kg, 175 cm.

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5 days now, brehs, feeling like a god in human skin

Day six of water fast, I now remember why I ate so unhealthy.
Being poor and having a narcissistic bipolar mother is a lot of stress.

For those that are fasting, what are you supplementing with?

>>42820040
No, fasting benefits occur only after a certain period of time.

So apparently I've been fasting daily without knowledge for the last 2/3 years. My 145 lbs won't budge at all during this time. I'm just a little concerned about health issues. Whenever I break it and eat during the fasting my stomach doesn't seem to like it (constant rumbling, less solid shit). Have I fucked up up my digestive system or is it even possible to do so this way?

>>42821106
Vitamin C, A and Himalayan Salt.

will I lose body fat during a water fast?

>>42821209
>Vitamin A
Fuck, wrong vit.
Vitamin D instead of A.

>>42819409
Someone else feeling much more...balanced? Like I don't get angry anymore or upset about something, I'm just happier somehow. I also feel much more connected to this world, sounds crazy but I cant describe that feeling very well.

First 5 days were brutal, I was depressed and weak but after that...BOOM.

This is also a very good expirience for the mind, I don't know why no one is talking about that. You pretty much free yourself from that need to eat daily and as someone like me who loves sweet stuff, it helped me to free myself from processed sugar.

2 weeks water fast in.

>>42821216
See
>>42819551

>>42821216
yes

Currently on my 3rd day out of 12, maybe 15-21 if I feel inspired.
Does anyone else take laxatives the first few days of fasting? I feel so uncomfortable and bloated with all the extra weight inside, and I want my weigh ins to be accurate asap.

>>42821241
I've only ever done 3 days, but my mind always feels like this after the first day.
Unrelated to mindfeels, a lot of ice water will keep the hunger pangs at bay

Started 40 hours ago. Feeling good brahs. Aim is 13 days

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>>42821106
PHS and multivitamin.

>>42823160
I got multivitamin + multimineral in one pill. Is that ok?

>another day of IF
>having plain black tea with peppermint leaves as an herbal for "breakfast" just to warm up

Anyone else get super cold while water fasting or IF? When water fasting I was wearing a merino wool baselayer with my winter coat and I was still cold. IF is better, but only after I have lunch.

>>42821171
What type of fasting? Water fasting or intermittent fasting (IF)? IF wouldn't be a problem really, but breaking a water fast has to be done correctly or you will wreck yourself in some of the worst ways possible. What hours fasting and hours eating for IF do you do? Like I do 19 fasting and 5 eating, 19:5.

>>42821241
Getting away from those useless carbs really does clear your mind a great deal. Added sugar is one of the most destructive drugs you can possibly take that is fully socially accepted from birth. Simply getting away from it will help you feel amazing. One year I went 6 months without any sweetener/artificial sweetener of any kind. My chinup reps when stress testing went from only 50 to over 200 in a row. I literally couldn't get tired on my runs and one day pushed myself at the local track. I ran from dawn to dusk without stopping (friends dropped by to relay water to me.) However, that was nearly 6 months of sugar-craving hell. The mental aspect was terrible. I wish I never fell off that diet.

>>42823242
Most likely. It depends on what is in it and how much and how long you are fasting. Cross reference what you are taking with what is listed in the links in the OP. You'll certainly still need to eat extra salt.

Are supplements (calcium, magnessium, w3...) really necessary for a rfl/psmf?

>>42823270
>Most likely. It depends on what is in it and how much and how long you are fasting. Cross reference what you are taking with what is listed in the links in the OP

I read the OP and I dont see any list on what vitamins and minerals are allowed

>didn't fast at all Friday or Saturday, giant fucking cheat day tailgating for sportsball
>back on it yesterday
>weighed myself this morning
>new low

Some of that has to be not drinking enough water but goddamn I'm still on track. I love 22/2

>>42823492
It isn't about being allowed, it is about "you must have this or you're gonna get fucked up" type of thing. Those are essentially, "phosphates, magnesium and potassium" in order to prevent "refeeding syndrome". Though, that is rare.

Also, from the OP links for fasting and IF,

>I recommend a general multivitamin to avoid micronutrient deficiency.
>Here are the supplements I recommend everyone to take on a daily basis: a multivitamin, fish oil, vitamin D and extra calcium (unless dairy is consumed on a regular and daily basis).

You seem to be correct. I could have sworn more info on specifics was in the OP, but it must have been in one of the links I was researching for myself. Here's some good reads on the matter, particularly the paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440847/
https://www.dietdoctor.com/fasting-and-re-feeding-syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refeeding_syndrome

has anyone done deadlifts (prob 385 3x5) ~40 hours into a fast? only time i can do them is now (meeting in 3 hours and can't risk explosive shits from eating).
or should i just wait til my next opportunity to lift in 2 days?

On day 2 of a (hopefully) 5 day fast, wish I could do more but I'm starting to have something of a social life and being the only person to not eat at a meal feels way too uncomfortable.

>>42823623
I am mainly afraid of taking something that will fuck up my fast or at least autophagy because thats the goal of my longer fast

>>42823753
Just stay away from carbs. The amount of filler in a multivitamin won't fuck things up. Chewing regular gum will.

>>42823742
>being the only person to not eat at a meal feels way too uncomfortable.

Life is centered around eating for most of western/western-influenced society. Normally, as entertainment.

>>42823270
yes i experience the cold too. almost 3 days fast. 'normal' temp aircond in my office but im freezing. occasionally my coworker complained about the cold but they are skinny, not fat like me.

is this side effect of water fasting?

>>42823949
body maybe is burning slightly fewer calories and making less heat in doing so.

you also may just be losing fat and unaccustomed to the new cold that you used to be more insulated from

Just finished dinner lads. Starting 16:8 IF from this moment onward. How long did your first fast last?

Also, what supplements are recommended? I have CLA and green tea extract at my disposal.

So I've been doing intermittent fasting for about 3 days now, and I like it but it is kinda tough. I don't eat from about 8 PM - 1 PM the next day, any tips to control appetite? I know about Bronkaid already just wondering what you guys do.

>>42825299
>any tips to control appetite?

water, black coffee for starters

>>42825299
>from about 8 PM - 1 PM the next day
Sooo you're basically skipping breakfast?

>>42825275
>How long did your first fast last?
3 days, without supplements, just salt and I was fine

>>42826076
Seems like he does that.
I remember that I often skipped breakfast during midschool and highschool. Guess it made it easier for me to fast.

>>42825275
>How long did your first fast last?
Two days, didn't ate much salt, only vitamins, so I felt quite dizzy at times.
Now trying to go for the week, with vitamins and salt

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>>42825694
Thank you based black coffee.

But I limit myself to just two cups per day.
I also drink black tea.

>>42819409
Sup boys, I have a question
I've done a 4 days fast about a month ago and I want to go for another one in these days. Problem is, I started working in a warehouse and it's kinda rough, I'm standing up and moving around for 8 hours and lifting/moving stuff.
Since the last time I fasted I felt kinda woozy I wanna ask if any of you had similar experiences and help with some tips

Does anybody know what the name of the plant/herb supplement that's pretty popular here that you take while fasting that helps burn fat?

>>42826183
Were you consuming a teaspoon of salt every day?

>>42823722
I do them fasted once a week, but I go pretty light (265 5x10) and focus mostly on back exercises after. I would say you should be fine, but that's just my personal experience.

Nope just water

>>42826298
>>42826363

>>42826363
>>42826383
You gotta get those electrolytes.

If I do something like eat fiber (like metamucil), drink tea, or eat some supplement to get electrolytes does that ruin the benefits from IF?

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>>42826257
Can't tell you sorry

>>42826533
Supplements shouldn't have Calories.
About the rest, I'm not sure. I'm also wondering if you could get minerals in more natural ways (via teas)

>>42823623
Can I just buy phosphates and potassium at pharmacy or something? I've got everything else covered, magnesium, salt, vitamins... But I can't find any info on those two. How much I should take daily during fast? I plan on doing 7-10 days.

>mfw do IF on and off when I need to drop fat
>would always feel fucking amazing as I got past like 4-5pm . Never knew why

After buying. some ketone strips it turns out I was jumping into ketosis for a couple hours everyday.

Now I'm doing a keto protocol and it's like being high.

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Can anyone verify through their personal experience if the claims of diminishing scar tissue are true?

>>42826634
Some of the links say that "a little is fine", but I don't know where that threshold is.

>>42819409
I've been doing intermittent fasting and keto for two weeks now. My digestive health seems better and I feel lighter. I was never a big breakfast eater anyway, so it's pretty easy for me.

Am I supposed to have a set goals of days? because honestly I want to lose all my weight(240 6'0) to around 180 or average wieght

>>42819884
>breakfast
>break
>fast

>>42826257
>>42826592
you talking about yohimbine?

So, putting half a scoop of unflavoured whey protein in my coffee doesn't break my morning fast? according to one of the links BCAA are recommended especially if working out fasted (which I'll be doing for a month at least), it also mentions that if you don't wanna buy bcaa you can use some whey protein.

>>42827224
>does eating food break my fast?

is it food or not

>>42827237
Just like I thought then.

Today I worked fasted for the 1st time, don't know if placebo effect or the fact that the plain coffee had a greater effect without any food in my stomach but it felt good, more energy, more alert, etc.

>>42823270
>breaking a water fast has to be done correctly or you will wreck yourself in some of the worst ways possible.

Fuck, I was thinking about doing 10 days or so water fast, but reading those links... How exactly do I break the fast safely? Can I take some supplements while fasting to prevent refeeding syndrome? Sorry for stupid questions, I've done only about 2-3 days max before...

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I've asked before but nobody really had an answer, guess I'll try again. I recently started hormonal birth control to regulate my off the chart cycles. Is there any concerns with taking hormonal birth control and fasting? I don't know how systems interact and I want to cover my bases since it already increases risks for blood clots, etc. I've been losing weight through dramatic lifestyle changes, but I'm ready to just drop as much now as I can, I'm not concerned I will return to my old eating habits or anything.

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Doing an alternate day fasting : 4 day fast and 3 day eat ( when i'm doing sport ) going from 160lbs and aim-130lbs ( very lean , 7 or 8% bodyfat , i wanna be skinny but r i p p e d , doing muay thai )
AMA i guess , i'll post every now and then to tell y'all how i'm feeling , how much did i lost and some shet like that
Good luck to everyone !

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>>42827405
Try and you'll see
You won't die anyway , just look like you're making excuse

>>42821114
yes, starting with 16 hours

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>>42819409
>tfw running sushi after 21 hour fast
I tried to pig as much as possible and still feel stuffed 4 hours later, two weeks ago I'd be already snacking on something, does anybody else have feeling of shrunk stomach on OMAD/20+hour fast?

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What is /fit/'s go-to multivitamin for water fasts?

Gonna try the water fast but worried about the nutritional loss that comes along with it.

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>>42828176
T R Y

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>>42826698
>7-10 days.

You probably don't need them for that length, but a multivitamin/multimineral should have them. This one has all 3.

>>42827701
19:5 here. I feel overstuffed when eating now. I'm eating a little less, but damn.

Is it possible to go into keto mode, while still maintaining 200g/day protein intake (all through powder)? I'm trying to easy into 24 hour fasting (1 meal / day).

Can I include plain yogurt (flavored?). This is what I have planned:

Breakfast:
2xPlain Yogurt (200 cal) + 2 scoops w/ Water (210cal) (84g protein)
Lunch:
2 scoops w/ Water (210 cal) (50g protein)
Dinner
Some ~600cal low carb meal with 70g protein.

From the videos I've been watching, I'm worried that the high protein intake will prevent me from going into ketosis.

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>"Oh cool, you are into keto too? I'm 15:9. What do you do?"
>"...23:1?, but how?"

>>42828402
Interested in this as well but Ive read somewhere that protein converts into glucose in your liver if taken above the 'keto' limit thus beating the point of keto altogether. Not sure tho.

Is fasting bullshit? Is not weight loss all about CICO?

>>42823753
Consumption of protein is what shuts down autophagy.

>>42819409
>how many levels of fast are you on?
>I-I'm increasing t-t-t-time between m-meals
>s-s-some p-p-p-p-p-p-pee-p-p-people are doing s-s-se-se-sev-seven plus days
>watch this
>water fasting every other month
Get down to 10%, bulk up to 15%, fast it all away. Repeat.

is this just for fattys?

>>42829632
CICO works for a lot of people. It also fails for a lot of people. Fasting is easier imo, all you need to do is nothing. Also, if you OMAD or IF, you can slam a pretty big meal and not be worried about making it all fit together. It's not bullshit, but it's also not the only tool in the box by any means.

Let's say I'm on a ketogenic diet for about a month now and wanted to do 5 days water fasting while lifting, how am I suppose to do it? Do I still need to eat 500 for pre-work meal?

>>42828402
Does not sound like keto to me. What macro split are you aiming for?

>>42829632
CICO is paramount to successfully losing weight. Fasting is a great addition with both health and weight loss benefits, it's also relatively simple.

>>42829985
How does one water fast and eat at the same time?

>>42828402
>powder
All of that protein will go straight to the liver and get turned to glucose

You need to be getting your protein from dietary sources, and realize that if you're going to do keto and IF, you will only need 1g/kg of lean mass of protein because your muscles will be in a protective state from the fasting

Mercola has an interview with D'agostino over keto, a good 30 mins is about training and watching your protein

D'agostino has a world record for squatting a cumulative 175,500 pounds over 24 hours while in keto, you can take your pick as to if you'll listen to /fit/ memers or strong men

>>42830050
>You can eat lesser 500 kcals a day and still on a fast

At least I read the sticky

I accidentally chewed gum, did I break my fast?

>>42830250
Only if it was a regular one YES.
Take the sugarfree ones.

>>42828264
But it says "take with food".
Why?

>look at before and after pics of people who did IF
>people look weird
>kind of like that guy who overdosed on caffeine
do not want tbqh

>notice there are no pics in this thread
really makes me think

>>42830107
Please point me to the part of the sticky that mentions water fasting then

>>42830386
>glucose soaked sharia blue faggots attacking the new font of vitality of the alt-right

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>>42830386
Let me help you. Last half of the cut was done with IF. So, think harder.

>>42827405
Check out the fasting Q&A on dietdoctor.com, should be okay but I cant check rn

>>42830386
>>kind of like that guy who overdosed on caffeine
Story pls

>>42830493
>arm got bigger after cut

About to end a long fast (14 days), how long before refeeding should I take electrolyte supplements? And what kind of phosphate supplements should I use?

>>42831530
Why would you use them?

>>42830396
Half of the links maybe?
>spoonfeeding

>>42830396
The second link in the OP, the extended fasting rundown, is what you're looking for.

I would not recommend eating anything on a fast day because that's not a fast day, that's just a super restricted day. The moment you take in normal food (unless you're doing pure fat) you will begin to release insulin and back off on your HGH/epi release and completely halt autophagy for as long as it takes for the meal to digest and the insulin to drain out of your system.
A full 24 hour past will drop you into the sweet spot of autophagy and offer at least a 300% spike in HGH levels

good luck

>>42831634
Lowers risk of refeeding syndrome

Im not fat i just have some extra fat i'd like to burn, is fasting one day a week a good plan?

I'm not trying to loose wieght just looking to shed some stubborn fat

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>>42831753
do 16:8 everyday, but do OMAD for a week

See how great you will feel

>>42831713
Different anon here, trying to get the 300 spike of hgh. Stupid question but Would drinking protein shakes count as a meal?

>>42831978
Yes

>>42827405

I would actually recommend dropping the birth control while fasting, simply because the fasting should attack the causes of your long cycles. I don't have personal experience with this, simply because I haven't gotten much further than research and preparing for my second fast (I'd ideally like to fast for ~100 days or until ~20% BF) but my own problem cycle ended during my last fast (the last time it stopped actually), and even light exercise seems to have a positive effect on it. I've always assumed my problem cycle was due to my weight or undiagnosed PCOS (which fasting has reportably helped considerably), and ruled out most forms of birth control to regulate it simply because they had side effects that would contribute to the problem.

That's simply my two cents, and thought you might like to hear them. Though you may find it detrimental to have your body think (hormonally) that it's pregnant (since that's what most hormonal birth control does) when you're not putting any food in it.

>>42819409
this might sound stupid, but is it worth taking a multivitamin without any food while on a fast?

>>42831713
>A full 24 hour past will drop you into the sweet spot of autophagy and offer at least a 300% spike in HGH levels

Only 24 hours? Would it be good then to lift Monday Wendsday Friday for example and eat only on lift days?

how did your calorie intake change when you took up IF? I've been cutting at 1800 and was wondering whether that should change or not

>>42819409
you people are even more smug than vegans, fuck off

>>42832348
What are you talking about?
Fasting fags seems to keep it contained in a general and not post passive aggressive bait threads 5 times a day like vegans

>>42821106
Salt, iron pills and multivitamins.

>>42832390
Brehs, anyone here do a super physical job that involves atleast 4 - 5 hours of moderate to heavy exercise each day, and still able to I.F. without any feeling of depleted-ness? Used to fast, 4 days on, 3 days off, for like 2 years, but that was when I was a NEET

Looking to do it for health benefits, not for weight loss or w/e

>>42832425
>>42832390
Accidental link.

>>42820341
More like a skelly in human skin

This should be renamed in /dyel/
Do any of you faggots even lift?

>>42832454
>not cutting to ~10% and then bulking up with tons of protein

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>>42832454
>lifting

>>42832454
Some of us lift I think
OHP 70kgs
DL 180kgs
Bench 100kgs
Squat 120kgs

Not impressive or even anything great, i think my deadlifts are okay, and my OHP is good, the rest of my core lifts are pretty garbage tho

>>42832459
>bulking up with tons of protein

Yep, just as I thought - you dont even lift

>>42832229
100 days? Damn thats a lot

I work on my feet for 10 hour days and deal with machinery.
Will this be safe to fast or should I wait for our week off in October? I don't want to be woozy or falter while operating a heavy ass machine.

>Can I drink pickle juice?
>How do you deal with the headaches?

I did 16/8 IF for months and I'm building up to a 3 day fast
Basically I'm doing alternate day fasting now and next week I'll do a 3 day fast

Should I take multivitamin or anything during the 3 day fast? I plan on going keto after the 3 day fast btw

>>42832483
Not yet.
I just generalized. Fat and protein, carbs aren't that important.

>mother thinks I'm going to end up in hospital
>not even two days in fast yet
>she apparently bought some tasty meats today
ARRGGGHH

>into week 5 of diet
>700 calories per day
>protein and vegetables
>hunger pangs are worse
>wake up in the middle of the night because of hunger
>can't concentrate
>feel like an old person whenever I do any kind of exercise
This is torture...

>>42832605
Try fasting, it's easier.

>>42832624
I'm already eating only in the evening.

>>42832637
Eat more

>>42832637
Eat less

>>42832637
Dont eat at all

>>42832655
>>42832687
Can I at least photosynthesize?

>>42832694
Yeah, if you want to be a fatass.

>>42832694
>2017
>being a living being

>>42832709
>The crime is life, the sentence is death!

>>42832694
I just noticed that this is /fast/ and not /fat/. I'm a fag. Ignore.

>>42832348
Then why are you here?
You fucking mongol

>>42832727
Well then you are at the right place bucko

>>42832818
woah way to get defensive you frail IF cuckold. im here to obviously call you fags out

>>42819409

That 77 day fast is fucking unreal, I've really gotta start taking being a sick cunt seriously.

>>42832856
are you as fat as the cunt who did it for 77 days? he still looks like shit

>>42832438
Yeah... no. That's me. >>42830493

>>42832863

I'm way bigger than that, but he lost over 100 pounds in a month and a half, thats nuts.

>>42832956
>77 days
>month and a half

>>42832966

I meant two and a half you nigger

>>42832956
Are you planing on selling your loose skin?

>>42832956
kill yourself you fat manchild

>>42832996

nah

>>42832996
Low willpower fag detected

>>42833028
>defending a fat cunt, the lowest willpower faggots of all

>>42833058
>shitting on people anonymously on the internet

must suck to be this insecure

>>42833072
no its actually quite bearable....unlike having a huge fucking gut!

>>42833074
You most likely have that too and are just jelly that anon decided to change

>>42833080
no im pretty fit

>>42833081
and you'll never post a pic to prove it

>>42833084
yeah why would i have anything to prove to someone on the internet? youre damn right im not posting shit! even if i did post something you could just accuse me of stealing someone elses picture

>>42832596
This is why you don't tell others.

>>42833087

fat fuck confirmed

>>42833095
you must be pretty insecure to be THIS obsessed with my weight. get a life ya pinhead!

>>42833087
Lmao triggered fatty

>>42828264
Huh, mine only has small amount of magnesium. But are they really necessary DURING the fast? If I've understood correctly, you need phosphorus and potassium in order to prevent refeeding syndrome, that occurs when malnourished body is given great amount of carbohydrates after period of fasting. So, breaking the fast slowly and carefully should be enough, right?

How do I tell my mommy I wanna go on a fast?

>>42833716
If you'll notice, there have been many people in these threads who have caved in and broke their fast with things like massive amounts of pizza, burgers, etc. Even after many days. I'm not saying you are weak or will be weak, but if your body is already semi-prepared for refeeding then crashing the diet and eating a big meal will have at least 1 less consequence in store for you if you are taking a good multivitamin.

>>42833759
Use the term "cleanse". I'm doing a, "water cleansing" for better health. Mommies are all into cleanses.

>>42833759
>>42833765
This is so accurate its scary. I told my mother i was fasting and she freaked. I ddint care but she still did. Like a few weeks later she told me shes starting a detox/cleanse diet. That idiot ordered all kind of meme powders and stuff.

>>42833761
True. It's obviously better to be safe than sorry... I have never really bought any supplements before aside from simple multivitamin, and since I couldn't find what I was looking for at first glance at pharmacy or general store, I thought of doing without. I'll keep on looking. 2-3 days fast is easy, but I guess there's no telling if my willpower is going to stay strong during a longer fast... At least I'm terrified of fucking up something in my body, so I'd think the fear of refeeding syndrome alone would be enough to keep me on the right track.

>>42832425
I would recommend doing a 3 day fast over the weekend then going back to IF; I use to think I felt drained on 16:8, but after getting used to working out on OMAD and doing 2s and 3 days, any eating window bigger than 4 hours makes me feel like superman.

I would also recc starting to become keto adapted. Literally unlimited energy after 2 weeks of strict keto. I can do fasted 10 mile hikes because of it now

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What kind of results can I expect from doing ADF? I'm 5'11 192lb around 20% bf and I want to drop down to 170-ish somewhere around December which will put me at close to 10%bf is it doable or should I just clean bulk at 20%bf for the winter and try to lose it in the spring?

>>42819409
Which supplement should i take when waterfasting?

sdrol? tren? var? tbol?

>>42835403

see

>>42828264

One pill of centrum adults per day in a water fasting seems to do the trick. Either way I still recommend that you get at least once a day a pinch of salt in your water.

fat bro reporting in
started 16:8 fast to get past weight I was stuck at
instantly moved past and few kg below
now weight is fluctuating a lot.

Getting really bad head spins and find my lifts are lacking.

Should I eat normal but still in my deficit for a day or so and go back into it?

>haven't eaten since dinner yesterday
>got a job interview tomorrow morning

eat today or no? gimme your thoughts

>>42836171
how would eating help your job interview?

>>42836171
Not unless you genuinely feel weak and off your A game

Who day 50+ here

>>42836256
Day 3 here. I started putting salt into my water which is weird for me because otherwise I never use salt and hate salt things. I didnt even have one at my home.

Why that long fast? How much weight you lost?

>>42832245
Bump

>>42836256
Have you seriously been fasting for 50 days???

I'd like to do a week long fast a couple times a year for health reasons (stomach healing and if the autophagy myth is real it couldn't hurt eh?), but I'm muscular and already not fat, so it most likely will be bad for me. I don't want to waste my hard earned gains.

>>42836586
you could overeat for a few days beforehand (e.g. at christmas)

>>42836602
That would make me gain fat and still lose muscle afterwards. If anything, overeating before a fast makes it harder to contain the hunger

>>42833092
She noticed that I don't eat the dinner.
Yeah, I live with parents, I really need to move.
Broke the fast, so it last only two days, apparently I lost ~1.5kg, but I will probably gain at least half of that back due to water.

>>42835355
totally doable with ADF. then clean bulk until spring

>>42819409
I personally recommend a three day bone broth fast to kickstart your fasting experience.

Can I drink a sugar free energy drink?

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>>42819409
Read an old book about a guy growing really old in the middle ages and he wrote
>The food you don't eat is more beneficial to you than the food you do.

Really made me think.

>>42835660
Yes, salt is a must. You will dehydrate if you don't have it, among other terrible things which all lead to death in a rather surprisingly short amount of time.

>>42836694
You won't lose muscle unless you do literally nothing at all.

>>42837730

>Getting Dehydratated
>While doing a water fast

anon.exe has stopped working.

>>42819409
so I gained weight on a fast. does that mean i lost fat despite gaining water weight?

>>42837881
this is flat out impossible. You mis-weighed yourself
>>42837837
you dont understand electrolytes

>>42837903
>this is flat out impossible
I did a 24 hour fast 2 several days apart. i gained weight on one and stayed the same on the other. weighed 3 times each time. weighed several times throughout day. dont tell me its impossible dude it happened.

>>42837881
Did you weigh yourself a minute after drinking 2 litres of water? Because then you "gained" water weight.

>>42837922
It is literally impsosible though. Im assuming you did something wrong. What were you drinking? Did you move around at all? I mean just from taking a shit and not eating that day youd lose a pound or 2 in shit weight.

>>42837922
Your weight should stay about the same if you only fast once or twice for such a short period of time.

Please don't weigh yourself every day and multiple times a day, that's not how bodies work. Weight fluctuates a lot and is dependant on so many factors.
Do it once a week and write it down if you want to see some sort of progress.

You remind me of my mom a bit, whenever she eats a meal she goes to weigh herself and curses about gaining half a pound again.

>>42837927
>>42837945
>>42838003
Im just gonna try again soon. I suspect i had too much salt for water retention.

>>42838023
Just remember to keep it going for a while to see effects on your body weight.

If you do 24 hour fasts, weigh yourself once at the beginning and once after you completed 5 of those fasts and compare that instead of doing it several times a day noticing almost no change.

So I'm reading up on bulletproof coffees.

What exactly is brain octane? Sounds like a meme word someone wants to get rich with.

My grandpa always used to put heavy cream instead of milk into his coffee, which is much much fattier than milk.

Can I go with that or just butter?

>>42827405
Why would you post this retarded shit, anon?

>>42838216
>butter
>in coffee
Go black or go bust.

Also,

>brain octane
Buzzword. Snake oil.

>>42838373
I never tried it so I thought it would be fun.

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>>42837298
only Monster Ultra Racist Edition or something, with low calories, but coffee is better as it doesn't contain tons of artificial shit but can a day won't hurt you probably

>>42832605
when hunger kicks in chase it away with coffee or ton of water, maybe up your intake to 1 or 1.2k (depending how fat are you), chewing snus or smoking could also help

>>42832454
I'm trying to get healthy, not metamorphose into worklift

>>42821106
Multivitamin and HMB

>>42819409
>There’s a very good reason for this decrease in appetite. As you start to break the insulin resistance cycle, insulin levels start to decrease. Since insulin is the major regulator of the body set weight (BSW) your body now ‘wants’ to go lower. In response, hunger is suppressed and total energy expenditure is maintained. So – appetite goes down and TEE stays same or goes up. Remember that standard Caloric Reduction as Primary (CRaP) strategies produce the opposite. Appetite goes up and TEE goes down. Which do you think will work in the long run?
oh shit, caloric reduction BTFO

>>42832583
>carbs arent that important
Wow you are one dumb fuck
Carbs are pretty much the most important, and the macro of which u need the most

I'm trying to go down 1-2kg a week (of fat) with fasting, good goal? I'm currently at like 18-20% bodyfat, somewhere around there.

>>42838880
how come i've been living fine without carbs for 3 months now?

>>42832583
>>42838880
You're both dead wrong.

Most important thing to eat is fibre.

Stupid question, but do you still have to brush your teeth during a fast?

For people who do OMAD, when do you like to exercise?

>>42838902
your brain needs carbs only, if you don't have any it'll start to break down your skeletal muscle for glucosynthesis

>>42825299
I once really felt the need for salt and I just had salt and pepper at work. So I poured some cooking water over ground black pepper and salt and drunk this as a "soup" while the others were eating. I love pepper so it was quite tasty for just being saltwater with pepper.

Day 8, the worst part is the lack of taste besides salty and bitter.
What can I take in that will improve it?

>>42832425
I did 30 days if Ramadan fasting and went without food, water for 16 hours. I worked in construction and had to lift heavy shit and pass it around. First 3 days were fucking hard, but your body adapts and you feel like a complete beast after.

>>42839078
Yes, even more so than when fasting. This is because microbes/fungi build up more when you are not eating. The act of chewing food helps clean your teeth. Brush and floss your teeth. Use a wet wash cloth to clean your tongue, gums, cheek, under tongue, and roof of mouth.

If you don't, you can get wicked cotton mouth/Candida albicans/oral thrush as well as your breath generally smelling like feces.

>>42839456
Yeah, drinking the salty "broth" was terrible after a while. Washing your tongue helps. You can try tealess herbals. Just don't put anything in them like sugar/honey obviously and double check it doesn't have anything added like that.

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>>42839292
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

go back to the fucking starting strength and carb loading thread faggot

>>42839283
Whenever you want, before your meal

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>>42840153
I agree with you completely, I've cut out all carbs and in three weeks I've gone from 260 to 231 pounds. It's hell at first though eh

why would 16:8 fast be causing head spins?
Lack of salt?
Also my lifts feel weaker, how do I reset/fix this ?

>>42841236
Your most likely not use to it, and your body needs tone to adjust. But have some yogurt before you start fasting, it helps with the headaches I used to get

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will a two week water fast help me drop around twenty pounds in two and a half weeks?

>>42832473
wtf man your deadlifts are shit compared to your upper body

my deadlift is the same as yours and i can only bench 70 and ohp 50

>>42841692
Assuming you burn around 2000 calories a day, you'll lose 9 lbs of pure fat. Although sometimes when I fast for 4 days, I lose much more than I've calculated. I lose like 9 more pounds than I expected. Some of it might be water weight, but it doesn't come back. So you MIGHT lose 20 lbs

16 hours seems really easy, especially if I'm sleeping during half of that time. Does sleeping interfere with fasting?

>>42842302
16:8 Is for pussies. 22:2 or 23:4 is where the real fat loss begins

>>42842376
*23:1

>>42839292
>Brain needs carbs
What?

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>>42830386
After a 9 day fast

>>42842828
lol and 5 years

>>42842828
took you only 9 days to become a faggot who dies his hair? lies.

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>>42842866
It's undied now

>>42832245
anyone got the answer to this

>>42832245
You should take vitamins while on long-term fast, make sure those do not have calories.

>>42842877
still a faggot, nice ho though! your wife?

>>42842877
>>42842828
hair line still justed

>>42843075
Great news I'm getting a HT

I just realized I might have been fucking myself over unknowingly by chewing gum during fasting. Just threw away my pack of gum.

Gonna start fasting from 4am to 7pm today just to test the waters.

Should I just take the plunge and do it for several days? Trying not to lose muscle mass too.

>>42843350
Do 36 hours

>>42843350
>Trying not to lose muscle mass too.
read the damn OP template

>>42843350
>4am to 7pm

quite a bizarre window. do you work nights or something?

Anyone try 23:1 or extended fasting while on gear?

almost 48 hrs into second fast, done 2 days last week going for 4 this week, feeling pretty good atm

Anyone here do serious sports beside lifting and do any kind of fast that isn't If ?

>>42843376
Mostly the only window I know when it comes to fasting. Used to do it like this for "reasons", and figured there might be a good reason for it.

>>42843355
Might be a bit too early for that, no?

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>>42839292
Jesus fucking christ

I really wish you were trolling but you are just plain retarded

>>42821820
Don't take laxatives, that is overdoing it.

Also intermittent fasting is eating between fasting sets you mong, if you don't eat for a month you will lose muscle mass as well.

Will antidepressants fuck with fasting?

I don't have time to read all of OP right now since I need to sleep but I have some questions, if any aren't covered I'd appreciate answers.

What's the best method to begin fasting? Easing into a water fast via other shorter fasts? Starting from ketosis?

Can I operate a car while fasting? I see people mentioning dizziness and I don't want to deal with that considering driving is my job.

How do you adjust your routine? Less volume?

Will my prescribed TRT protocol make any difference?

I'm only looking to lose maybe 20lbs from 140. More interested in trimming waist from 33 to sub 30 like it used to be, is fasting useful to people that aren't overweight?

>water fast
>feel great
>eat normally again
>get a fucking headache even if I eat normal shit, not even sugary stuff

Is this how I anorexia?

>>42844419
You need to slowly ease into and out of fasts.

When I did a 5 day fast I broke it with brussel sprouts drizzled in lots of butter and salt.

>fast for 7 days
>take multivitamin, salt, zinc, magnesium, and calcium
>feel like shit past day 3
>lose weight but no visible fat
>lose tons of strength
I thought this was supposed to be some magic shit, brehs

>>42844972
>not going pure water fast
You fucked up.

>>42844972
7 days isn't long enough.

>>42845027
You need to use a multivitamin and salt or you can simply die.

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>>42845426
>you can simply die

on 20/4 easy
Never felt better in my life... besides that im sitting on a wheelchair since 8 years...
but no really, never felt better

>>42845546
Yes. I knew a women who died while fasting simply because her doctor was a fuck up and didn't have her taking electrolytes. She was getting muscle cramps, blackouts, and headaches really bad then went into a coma and died. The hospital got the shit sued out of it and settled out of court. There's also a host of other problems that lead to death because of improper fasting. Even when refeeding you can end up killing yourself if you do it improperly. It can be anything from congestive heart failure to shitting too death from run away dysentery.

>>42845546
If you don't snack on carbs 5 times a day you'll go hypoglemic and die.

Every minute you go on fasting and don't die is a miracle.

>>42845426
not taking salt might cause death but not taking a fucking multivitamin will NOT cause death

About to start OMAD, I have the following

1000mg omega 3 fish oil tabs
25ug vit D3 tabs
Centrum Men multivit tabs
Also I will add a pinch of salt to one of my bottles of water during the day.

Would anyone add or take away anything,

I also take 1000mg of Evening primrose oil x3 a day
750mg Green tea extract x1 a day

Will this influence anything, I can take one of the EPO pills and the Green Tea in the evening if that helps.

>>42832596
Now you know what to tell her everytime you want tasty meats

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Post links or feedback that you'd like to see in the OPs to this post!

>>42846401
Fung's books as e-books maybe?

>>42829477
This is weird,
> be on 4th day of a water fast
> stumbling upon this girl's youtube channel, start watching her vids
> check out /fit/ first time since ages
> find this thread
> find this girl's webm in it
what's happening ? is it a fucking synchronicity?

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>>42846401
Use a better OP image because only very few people will click through all the links.

Maybe a nice infograph of some key facts or something like that.

>>42832245
Its basically essential, along with pink hima salt

>>42842828
why the fuck would you straight up lie like what the actual fuck whats the REASON
Nice hair chest grow in 9 days

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Anyone have reports of how their IF is going for them?

I've been doing OMAD for about a month and a half now, weight is dropping like a mofo and it's a lot harder for me to feel drained; that combined with the keto have also cut down on my shoulder spasms enough to where I can start stretching.
Hoping to cut down to 16%bf and then start greyskull, I feel like I can pull it off once I get fully keto adapted

>>42846000
>but not taking a fucking multivitamin will NOT cause death

It can. Start reading up:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440847/

>>42846000
>>42848357
Pro tip: If you die from a couple hours or days of fasting, then your time was near anyways.

>>42846644
This

I have been reading most of the links in the OP and I have a question. While water fasting, am I supposed to apply the salt into the water at least once a day or drink water normally and every so hours ingest the water orally through my mouth / tongue?

I'm seeing a lot of different answers stating that the salt doesnt get into the bloodstream properly if its taken alongside the water.

Another question I live in Mexico and sadly we don't get any of that fancy Himalayan salt here because third world country. Is it okay if I stick with normal "sea salt" instead of the commonly used "table salt".

Link related is the sea salt that I frequently cook with and use.

Also I know that this has probably been answered sometimes now but what is the consensus about drinking gatorade zero calories drinks and the such? [spoiler]ASKING FOR A FRIEND[/spoiler]

http://www . myfitnesspal . com/es/food/calories/pegaso-sal-de-mar-197716433

>>42848716

OP here, I actually found another brand of "Light" salt that asides from having your usual sodium it aditionally has a slight amount of pottasium.

Link here:

http://www . myfitnesspal . com/es/food/calories/la-fina-sal-light-baja-en-sodio-229023491

Would this work in a water fasting and to keep the electrolytes up?

>>42826183

I did 7 days, worked a manual job carrying shit, just water no supps, got dozzy a few times just took deep breaths and paced myself, it's not like you're going to instantly die on the spot.

>>42848716
>>42848779
I would skip the Gatorade and yes that salt works as well

>>42846314
Today she cooked nice stuff, too...
Is there a thread where I can ask for bodyfat estimate? Apparently I'm in upper normal value on BMI and according to pictures I googled, I'm around 20%.

>>42848779
broth/buillon with some light salt/lo salt is how i get my sodium/potassium needs. i also take a multivitamin in the morning along with a magnesium citrate tablet.

>>42849284

Is it healthy to take multivitamins on an empty stomach? There are several multivitamins like Centrum and the such that must be ingested specifically after a meal or while having a normal healthy diet.

Anyone care to shed some light on this? Am I overthinking things and I should just not give a fuck?

Also should I take the sea salt water oraly or pour it in my water?

>>42848967

Thanks for the answer my mang.

bought centrum multivitamin and that shit does not have any potassium fuck

NEW THREAD

>>42849589

so after 100 hours of fast or so I have entered ketosis accordinx to keto sticks. It also shows that I have protein in my urine. What does that mean? Am I going to die?

>>42849577
see
>>42828264

>Doesnt have pottasium
>When it clearly does

Anon?

>>42849609
Why? This thread is still a thing.

>>42849839
I bought centrum for men and it does not have it

>>42849839
>>42849577
You need to make sure it is the same one, they have a few types (Adult, Seniors, Kids, etc), not sure what is the difference between them, but their website has pdfs with this type of info: >>42828264

Also remember that "phosphorus" in those will turn into "phosphate" in the body.

>>42846608
>synchronicity

Yup. That is exactly what it is.

I'm now on my 6th day of fasting and my mouth and tongue is starting to feel really weird and disgusting. I've done long fastings before and after the 6th day no matter what it doesn't go away. What is this supposed to be? It is really annoying and I don't know how to stop it.

>>42850442
Use a wet wash cloth and scrub your tongue once a day. Get everything off it. Make sure you are taking enough salt. Dehydration can cause that as well, which is compounded by not enough salt. You end up pissing out the water you are drinking and it doesn't hydrate you without proper salt intake. I also recommend a salt gargle to help with killing bacteria and such in your mouth. Just don't do it often or at least not with too much salt in the water. Brush your teeth well, but don't use a store bought mouth wash. The salt gargle will be enough. See>>42840147

>>42837298
Avoid. They have a form of b3 called niacinamide, which is slow release niacin. It inhibits free fatty acids from being released for energy .

>>42851178
Ty anon

>>42838216
i use mct oil, u really notice a difference.
butter in your coffe cant hurt too, doing fine for well over a year now, dont wanna miss it anymore

How does fasting differ from a normal calorie defecit?

>>42851718
Your body switches to and maintains using a different fuel source for long term fasting.

>>42851773
Okay, but how do the effects differ? Is it more effecicient?

>>42851787
No, it is less efficient. Glucose is far more efficient, hence the weight gain and using it normally.

>>42821106
salt and Braggs apple cider vinegar

>>42826183
I'm a mailman walking up and down stairs and often do 5 day fasts. The trick to not feeling really nauseous is to drink have salt with your water in the morning and apple cider vinegar with your water at night. Currently on day 3 of my fast. Gonna go for another 13 days since I have a wedding coming up and i wanna look slim as possible.

>>42826533
as long as your body doesn't start using sugars for energy then you're okay. The whole point is get in a state where your body just uses fat for energy

>>42826717
I can attest to this. Your body uses up any dead skin as energy . This is why no holocaust survivors or american prisoners of war had any flabby skin when they were starved for long periods of time.

>>42830366
because you will barf it all out

>>42852609
yes, but what is the cut off?

enough people have said it's true for me to believe it, but if it mean that you have to starve yourself to the point where you are in a hospital bed, then it's not really that viable

also, regarding refeeding syndrome, how important is it, really? I've done, in recent times, a 7 day and a 5 day fast, had diarrhea both time, and that was it - no pain or extended sickness

the last time, however, was a 6 day fast a few weeks ago, and I was waiting for the diarrhea, but it never came. Does this mean that only if you fast for a length that your body's not used to that you get sick when you eat again?

now I'm 5 days in and it is at least 5 times easier than the first time I went this long without food, so I don't know

>>42826757
well, one thing i can say is that some people going on a diet assume that their body is in "starvation mode" when they eat less junk and eat salads for a couple of weeks

it turns out that there is a "starvation mode", and you can technically have a non-zero amount of calories while still technically starving, but it's very low. Something like 30 calories a day, which is literally less than 4 almonds. Most people in rich countries never reach starvation mode no matter how hard they diet.

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>>42837344
he might have just been talking about how people avoided healthy foods and would eat trashy shit, was there any extra context to what he said?

>>42842407

OMAD*

>>42852681
>>42830366
It is fine. You take it with food because some of the vitamins are fat soluble. You won't need those vitamins for what you'll be doing so you don't need to be eating anything with it.

>>42849609
Odd how that thread died already.

can i drink 0 cal/0 sugar energy drinks during a fast?

>>42850297
>Also remember that "phosphorus" in those will turn into "phosphate" in the body.

What does that mean? Is it a bad thing? Will it fuck me over?

Should I wait to lose more weight to start lifting? or Should I start right now any way

>>42855215
there isn't one good reason to not start lifting as early as possible

>>42854523
Dont, It might trigger an insulin response
Due to sweeteners

>>42827404
Not the guy you replied to but heres a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIqglSUUqm0
It basically comes down to eat nutrient dense foods i.e. fruits, veggies and high fat foods.

>>42852681
t. someone who has never eaten a multivitamin

interesting video on autophagy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm626MgpveI

Am I supposed to lift/cardio during a week long fast?