Cigarettes increase your testosterone FACT

>source: my ass

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>Haven't smoked for two months
>Had a cigarette today

Literally hate myself

>>42805229

>implying vapers have high test

>>42805229
Is this real?

>>42805235
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

>>42805266
duh yea dude i smoke a pack a day INSANE GAINS

>not watching porn for 5 mins before lifting and taking 200mg of caffeines

>>42805276
>Data from 2,021 men (989 nonsmokers and 1,032 smokers), aged 20-69, were collected from the Fangchenggang Area Male Health and Examination survey using an in-person interview and self-administered questionnaires

Cool study, faggot

>>42805242
It's okay m8
Don't think of it as ruining your 2 month streak, just think of it as you've only smoked 1 cigarette over the course of the last 2 months. still a success.
keep going bro

No. But you can be 100% sure that the men who never tried a smoke has low test.

>>42805266
Nicotine is an aromatase inhibitor (lowers aromatase)
Aromatase turns testosterone into estrogen. You could probably eat the pills you use to quit smoking for the same effect if they also contain nicotine

Not that increasing testosterone to ranges which stay in natty range do anything for muscle though

>>42805334
That's a retarded assumption to make.

>>42805335
This. People think "oh shut it increases test! Do it all!" Without realizing that your body seeks homeostasis and will regulate upward changes in Test with upward chances in estrogen. There is no way to increase test for muscular changes unless you're deficient in the first place.

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>>42805334
>Hitler
>Low test

Pick one

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>smoking cancer sticks

Risk
Non-smoker ...............................1.0 (base number)
Cigarette – 20 grams / day...........16.0 (i.e. 16 x the risk of non- smokers)
Cigar – 20 grams / day.................3.2
Pipe – if > 10 bowls per day.........6.7
Pipe – if 5 bowls per day..............3.2
Pipe – if 3 bowls per day..............1.5
Pipe – if 2 bowls per day..............1.26
typical - 2 bowls every 2-3 days....~1.05 (almost same as non-smoker)

>>42805458
(*Source Webline – reviewed 22 studies/articles. 21,520 smokers studied between 1969 – 93)

>>42805346
It's been a while since I was into the testosterone shit, perhaps our friends over at /fraud/ will shit on me if I'm wrong.
Apart from testosterone and aromatase it's possible to manipulate SHBG, DHT and whatnot with supplements or food choices to make the body favor testosterone expression but the question is will that make a difference?
The study about the irrelevance of above average testosterone concentration tested regular men with naturally occuring testosterone with normal hormone balance.

Would be pretty interesting to see a study where 30 people take like 10 supplements that do that, though studies only tend to test one substance at a time.

>>42805458
>20 grams
that's a lot of cigs. Much more than the equivalent of one bowl of pipe.
If a bowl lasts as long as a cig.

>>42805357
hitler probably tried a cigarette once he just didn't like them.

>>42807015
20 grams is 1.5 packs, a bowl lasts 20-45 mins

>>42805229
>Just don't inhale into your lungs and you're fine.

Tips from my old babuska who smokes since her teen days and is still alive at 83

>>42807066
>a bowl lasts 20-45 mins
You mean just filling the bowl of a pipe lasts 30 min?

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>>42805458
True. Pipes are the best for smoking
>Can get corn cobs and clays for nothing, decent basket briars for around $30
>Good quality bulk tobacco cost nothing and last forever
>huge variety in tobacco and flavors
>Awesome way to kill downtime with some coffee and a book


Retards get put off though because they try to light it like a bong and smoke it like a one hitter.

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>>42807333
i suppose, but unless youre buying a japanese pipe or an abnormally large on, its probably going to last 20-45 mins

>>42807371
they also are put off of it cause numales and lumbersexuals coopted it in an effort to be """manly"""

>>42805229
What about Cigars?

>>42807465
>falling for the cigar jew

>>42805242
reset, start again. make it 3 months this time.

>>42805229
>>42805458

Greetings from /out/, smoke pipes if you're going to smoke at all.
>>>/out/1091027

b

>>42805229
Cigarettes decrease estrogen so maybe there is a perceived test boost? Or maybe its the change in neuro chemical levels, increasing focus and abstract thought that mimics test?

>>42807452
I want to travel back to the 60s just to fuck some groovy bitches

>>42805458
doesn't pipe smoking correlate with good health since people that smoke pipes as opposed to cigs tend to be smarter and richer?

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>>42805229

>CHEW increases your testosterone

fixt

>>42805483

> reviewed 22 studies/articles. 21,520 smokers studied between 1969 – 93)

That's not very many people

>>42805245

They don't smoke tobacco hence the term VAPE as in VAPOR

it's basically nicotine steam out of a faggy looking box.

>>42805229
I'd rather just inject magic asian bathtub chemicals into my ass than smoke. I'm not trying to smell like shit.

>>42805229
Yeah but they make you smell like shit, everyone hates you, you get cancer, yellow teeth and look like a moron.

>>42805229
If I ever get to the point where I'm willing to start smoking for a tiny increase in test, I'll just start roiding.

I only smoke at home and only after I open the windows and front door.
Bought 2 pounds of untreated tobacco leaves (Virginia, Burley and Oriental) for about 10 bucks. I can mix my own blend from it and it tastes way better than anything else I've bought yet.
The lung rarely clogs up anymore and the buzz is better.

Suck my schnitzel.

Smoking and higher T are correlated, but it might as well be because high T individuals are more likely to engage in risky and pointless behavior like inhaling fucking smoke just to look cool.
>t. smoker for 15 years, 2 packs a day in my prime

>>42805357
Hitler used to smoke

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>use pic related
>brain is in bush rapist mode 24/7
>stop using it
>barely find women attractive anymore

>>42811048
>Bought 2 pounds of untreated tobacco leaves
Doesn't it taste like shit tho?

> I can mix my own blend from it
Like what?

>>42805229
Good luck with your limited cardio and clogged artery goals.

>>42805242
I believe in u bruh

>>42811461
>white odens
My man

>>42811461
I heard that turns you into a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus. Is that true?

>>42809665
Tobacco smells great though, unless you buy the ccheapest shit

>>42805334
Yep. Experiencelets are universally low test

>>42811936
Only if you're Jessie ventura from Predator

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>>42811461
I fucking love Odens White, especially the mint flavor. Half of my face becomes paralyzed when using it but I don't care.

>tfw they stopped selling snus here in the 90's

>>42813112
What? You can't buy snus in Finland?

If the stimulant use via tobacco assists fat loss then I suppose it could raise testosterone due to less fat aromaritizing your test into estrogen. But i dunno if its inherently test boosting.

i'm a no-smoke... do you think I have to start for more gainz?

>Have had cold
>Havent had urge to smoke in 3 days

Whys this? I want to stop!

>>42813483
don't be dumb ,you don't have to start smoking for more gains
t. smoker

>>42805242

You are back in if you smoke another cigarette. Dont fucking do it!

>>42807452
>lumbersexuals
audible kek

>>42813692
now's your chance, stop.

the deleterious effects of smoking far outweigh the positive effect it has on testosterone levels

the effect smoking has on your cardiovascular system is more than enough reason not to do it

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>>42807452
fuck lumbersexuals. just smoke your pipe. the hipster fags will drop them in a year. and stop dropping good hobbies just because hippster faggots decide they are trendy. pic related

>>42805229
>nicotine addiction
>2017
wew lad.

>>42805458
High inhib pussy
Look up the effects of smoking on free test, DHT and estrogen