Increase testosteron how?

Injections and not being fat

>>42799314
Wtf is wrong with government plates?

>>42799314
Why is stem on there?

>>42799314

Get enough zinc and magnesium in your diet
Heavy lifts, squats in particular are said to elicit the greatest growth response and test boost
NoPorn
Stress KILLS test, chronic stress and anxiety tells your body you are too weak to pass on your genes and cuts your test production. Get enough sleep, don't procrastinate.

>>42799314
>starterpacks
Go back.

>>42799622
Shitton of STEMLords I knew were trannies.
Nothing wrong with STEM itself though.

>>42799953
Are we thinking of the same stem?
Science and math and all that?

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>>42799622
STEM is a way to kill your dreams and substitute them for bet-hedging while still appearing ambitious to those who don't know any better.

>>42800702
I don't buy that for 1 second. That's a meme. If not stem than what dude? Every person I k ow who got a stem degree got hired straight out of school.

>>42799314
>Tatami Galaxy
Nigga

>>42800712
>Every person I k ow who got a stem degree got hired straight out of school.
Like I said, bet-hedging.
>If not stem than what dude?
9-5 slave till you can meaningfully invest in something you believe in.

>>42800745
It's not bet hedging at all. If you choose a good degree, from a good school, and have a good gpa you are guaranteed to get hired and if story. I don't wanna hear about someone with a history degree not getting a job that's their fault. Every busy I have who got a degree in engineering is making bank right now.
Slave for barerly above minimum wage and deal with assholes all day sounds good to you? Not to mention most people can't invest and that's actually hedging your bet.
Let me guess your from r9k?

>>42799314
Eat more protein, sleep more, workout more/harder than you already do, have more sex and fap more when otherwise not having sex
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html?m=1
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>https://breakingmuscle.com/fuel/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17520786
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-youre-not-regular-fucking-sleeping.html
>https://www.chaosandpain.com/tips/lucid-dreaming-rules-cultivate-crazy-gainz-and-have-insane-dreams-with-olympus-hypnos-and-binaural-beats/

>>42800702
Fuck, well put.

>implying engineering isnt the most alpha major

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>>42800939
Stop citing Chaos and Pain, you mongoloid.

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>>42799314
What are you saying here, that we should drink fluoride tap water?

>>42800702
I don't have any dreams except to start a huge family

>>42800902
No. I did STEM. I wasn't an engineer or chemist but I make 50k out of college and in the south, that's not bad.
My dreams are so far removed from my life that I wonder if I got someone else's by mistake.
If your happiness is really just social stature and approval, then dive the fuck in.

>>42800944
No it isn't you same fag

>>42801031
Buddy I'm not saying don't follow your dreams I'm just saying making 50k+ ain't struggling that's all. For most people going into stem is a safe bet compared to the alternatives.

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>>42800702
>STEM is a way to kill your dreams and substitute them for bet-hedging while still appearing ambitious to those who don't know any better
>tfw have stem field as my second major because of this exact mindset
A-at least I'm still pursuing my dream, r-right?

>>42800968
No

>>42801044
Years of safety have changed me.
I don't know if I would have taken them on if I knew what they'd do.
It shrunk my thoughts.

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>>42801035
Reply to both of us so I can prove you wrong.

>>42799314

>kkb
>stem

I guess I was a tranny all along.
Shit.

>>42799314
What is the hundreds of games and little playtime past 2 weeks supposed to imply?

>>42801107
A bi-polar swing between ambition and apathy.

>>42800702
what dreams?

>>42801054
Do GIS as a STEM minor.
Comfy office jobs abound and there is still pretty low supply to demand.
If you can't code, you won't get a lot of dosh but there are lots of need for manual digitization and stuff like that that needs a human eye.
Also, if you like maps, it can be pretty fun.

>>42801069
Then quit you fucking faggot

>>42801069
Again I get that but it's sure better than minimum wage at mcdonalds dude.

>>42799849
Top flight 2011 era bro science. Everything but the sleep part has been disproven.

You're the one who offered up these suggestions, so if you're going to respond, you'd better post some citations that directly address your assertions.

>>42800712
this. its hilarious how stem became hated because of the contrarian nature of the internet but its still by far the safest bet for getting a job right after college

>>42801203
>Zinc and magnesium and their relationship to healthy test production "has been disproven"
Is that a fucking fact?

>>42799314
haha jokes on you i finished eva yesterday and I only have 518 games in my library

>>42801164
Right now I'm doing one major in theatre with a performance concentration (voice and general stage) and one major in CS with a cybersecurity concentration. My health situation makes it difficult to hold a stable office job, so I was hoping the CS would offer some flexibility for money and insurance until I was able to get consistent enough theatre work to join actor's equity. Probably not the best direction, but it at least will allow me to not be stuck in my mom's home like a lot of disabled people

>>42801263
CS isn't STEM it is a liberal arts degree

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>>42800702

I fell for the STEM meme, now I'm making nearly six figures at 22 years old. What the fuck else should I have done? I didn't go into debt either because of scholarships, so I'm literally just getting free money for basically nothing. Kys, brainlet.

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>>42801355
Sure you do.

>>42801369
not him but i dont know a single stem graduate who didnt get a job right after
im from eastern yurop so obviously not 100k but theyre basically the only one who can make a decent living out of school

Wanna increase test?
1. Get 8 hours of sleep a night.
2. Keep stress low.
3. Eat a good amount of carbs and fats.
4. Stay lean, have muscle mass without too much fat.
5. Eat enough.
6. Keep hydrated.
7. Lift heavy.
8. Have a sex life.
9. Stay away from endocrine disruptors.
10. Don't consume much or any soy, flaxseeds, licorice, alcohol, milk, trans-fats, or high-pufa foods (nuts or oils).

Have fun with higher test brah.

>>42801461
How do I achieve number 8?

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>>42801369
Yes, literally I do. I know you need to deny it as a defense mechanism to boost your self-esteem, but it's true.

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>>42801461
>milk
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html
Also doubt the"milk=prostate cancer" entirely especially when in the article it says:
>Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem.
>The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct.
>difficult to tell
>unrealistic
and
>What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study.
>http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html
>http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2011.10719992

>>42801490
Do all the other ones for confidence and get some social gains going.

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>>42801461
>no milk or nuts

>>42801492
post bank account

>>42801233
I believe in scientific method though

Pin test e

>>42801516
Nigger I literally started a few weeks ago. You don't get your annual salary all at once.

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>>42800702
I used it to hedge since literally nothing else guaranteed a fallback if I decided I didn't want to do the same thing I wanted to do when I was a kid while still aiding me in the dream I had as a kid.

I learned a lot of programming during electrical engineering which has helped me create a video game from scratch which then helped fund another video game that I've spent nearly 2 years full time making that will be released soon.

If it fucking flops like a piece of shit I can just go get an elec eng job.

>>42801369
Why is this so hard to believe lol? Especially if he is in Silicon Valley 90-100k out of college is common.

>>42801500
Take your chances if you want. There's conflicting research on it. I stay away from milk for the same reason I stay away from soy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976
>>42801514
>milk
Yeah, stay away from mammalian estrogens
>nuts
Just eat high saturated fat nuts instead of high pufa nuts or eat high pufa nuts in moderation.

>>42801500
sure, the mammal estrogen juice does not low testo. Thank you anon for the good research you presented.

>>42799953
WAIT so i can fuck tons of boipussies if i choose STEM

>>42801461
>soy meme is still around

>>42801031
Many people are pressured into doing stem degrees because of the revenue they make and the large amount of openings for them, but in their eyes, it's just another job. For a lot of stem jobs in truly believe you have to be passionate about science and mathematics or you aren't going to enjoy the ride.

>>42800702

The other option is being a liberal arts or humanities student which is easily x100 worse

almost 70% of people studying humanities regret it, only 20% of people that end sa STEM career regrets it

>>42799314
Obv dont consume stuff that has estrogen in it, that also includes any form or cow milk, cheese, yogurt, cream and so on. Dont eat high processed sugar stuff like candy bars and coke. If you dont believe me, just ask yourself whats the purpose of milk.

Lower your colesterol intake. Dont be on an extreme low fat diet but also dont go into ketosis or high fat diet. Every extreme diet is not ideal to raise testo, only if you need to lose weight.

Having Sex is by far the best method. Try to keep your stress level low and sleep enough. Drink enough water, eat enough zinc, eat enough selenium and keep moving daily.

>>42801569
You can have soy, but I think it's dumb to ignore its potential effects to lower test, so keep it in moderation.

>>42801203
>Stress is bad for your health is a meme
ISHYGDDT

>>42801630
phytoestrogen only has any effect on testo if you consume a heavy amouth of that stuff. Something like 22 seving of tofu daily (which is stupid).

dairy on the other hand has estradiol.

what's bad about STEM? Getting comfy job opportunities AND regular people to stare in awe as your swole self tells them that you're studying something they can't comprehend, establishing both physical and mental dominance over them

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>>42801355
>>42801492
>Yes, literally I do. I know you need to deny it as a defense mechanism to boost your self-esteem, but it's true.
Ohh the fucking irony. /fit/ is dead.

>>42801545
The article addressed that research.
>>42801552
>not reading

>>42799314
There is nothing wrong with yuri you cunt

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>>42802633
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976
>The present data on men and children indicate that estrogens in milk were absorbed, and gonadotropin secretion was suppressed, followed by a decrease in testosterone secretion. Sexual maturation of prepubertal children could be affected by the ordinary intake of cow milk.

Fuck off milk shill, I see you posting here ALL the time and I'm pretty sure you're getting paid a good wage for fooling poor anons into consuming liquid estrogen.

If only mods would do something about all the dumb shilling on /fit/, it's really killing the board having multiple paleo, IF, dairy threads up at any given time

>>42801490
escorts

>>42801057
well i hope you dont expect to be taken seriously then

ITT: assblasted STEM numales

>>42799314
>Björk
Why

>>42799314
exercise and a well balanced diet.

The plastic in the water will barely affect you at all compared to inactivety and having too much bodyfat. Those two are the biggest reason why people today have lower test than before.

>>42804002
I dont know what kind of 3rd world country you live in. But where i live milk is heavily regulated. The amount of hormones in it is miniscule. You will find more hormones in certain fruit and vegetables than milk.

>>42799314
Cholesterol and saturated fat increase testosterone production.

>>42804052
brainlet detected

>>42804172
People need to stop saying "x Increase testosterone" Vitamins, fat and minerals only bring your testosterone levels back to normal if you are DEFICIT. It doesnt increase anything above what you should produce.

>>42804209
>anything above what you should produce
and what's that?

>>42801514
Daddy gave you good advice

>>42804244
That depends on your genetics.

>>42804263
sure, give me a range

Just shine some red light on your balls lads.

https://redlightman.com/blog/red-light-triples-testicle-health-function/

>>42804244
https://gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepage.cfm?ID=1067057219

>>42804278
>11-36 nmol/l males
you serious?

>>42804306
That's what the men in white coats say

>>42804318
they're wrong

>>42804271
Why? You can just google it

>>42804323
the reference range according to most labs is idiotic.
so i was interested if you would give me a non-idiotic range, to see if you actually know anything about the subject.

>>42804306
>>42804318
>>42804321
>11-36 nmol/l males
Thats average for the average person.
The average guy doesnt exercise, nor does he eat a healthy, balanced diet.

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>>42804334
You dont need to know numbers to know that vitamins, fats and minerals only helps to increase testosterone production if youre deficit. Is that really your test?

>>42804334
And btw i didnt post the numbers from the lab. Because those numbers are not true to what the normal range should be.

Im>>42804358
>>42804343
>>42804323
>>42804263
>>42804209

>>42804343
the average for someone in his early twenties is 24 nmol/l, with 5th and 95th percentiles being 14 and 33 nmol/l.

11-36 is such a bad range.

>>42804358
you need to know numbers to know what "deficit" means.

>>42804350
I'm taking 15mg a day.

>>42804368
Ah, so what do you think the normal range should be?

>>42804379
YOu only need to know the numbers of normal test production if you want to monitor it, or study it. You dont need to know the numbers when you speak in general.
And please prove me wrong about minerals, fats and vitamins only increase your test levels if youre deficit. I would really like to know if any of those could bring it to levels beyond normal.

>>42804421
you need to determine what normal is.
you can say that normal is within some range of numbers, or that it is some specific number for you specificly.
or you could say it's whatever number you end up at if you make sure you eat/train/sleep well and get enough of every vitamin and mineral.
you could also define normal as whatever level doesn't give you low T symptoms, but some men never train and are perfectly content with looking feminine and having a shit body.

what if some herb increases that "normal" number by 10%?
is that your new normal, or is that a 10% boost?

>>42804480
>or you could say it's whatever number you end up at if you make sure you eat/train/sleep well and get enough of every vitamin and mineral.

This is what i mean by normal. And if anything would increase ttest levels beyond a person who does all that, i would say its a boost.

But i doubt minerals, vitamins or fat can do that. It would probably be something else in that "herb" which increased it. And that was not my point at all.

>>42801369
I'm a webdev and I make 148k straight out of dropping out from high school. I work in the valley and I shitpost on /fit/ in my free time. People are literally asking you to fuck them in the ass.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19384830
>>42804480
Like onion juice, which may boost testosterone in humans, as it boosts it in rats.

>>42804568
but then what means "getting enough of every vitamin and mineral".
e.g. a blood level of 50 for vit D3 is "sufficient", but higher seems better.
you could make the same case for all the other vitamins and minerals.

what do you think the normal range numbers should be?
lets assume a lean man in his early twenties, who trains/eats/sleeps well.

>>42804052
t. bad at math

>>42804643
has no one done a study on this with humans? I can't imagine straight onion juice is very palpable though

>>42801233
The safest bet is trade school; it is also the best education to $ ratio.

I say this as a bio major, there are few jobs unless you go to grad school.

>>42804742
If you boost your testosterone by 300% you would probably get the same sideeffects as injecting it. Maybe others too due to massive amounts of certain substances.

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>>42799314
I work as an American graduate assistant. Today I did more good for society than any of you greedy people will in a lifetime. Want to know something amazing? I can feel it in my HEART.

I started work at 5:00AM today. I was able to perform 10 tissue culture assays, purify three proteins, test 7 pre-clinical drugs, prepare 50L of bacterial media, AND write half of a research grant application today. I find problems in experimental design that paid professionals often miss. Even if it's helping the post-doc who is supposed to know what he's doing, I never hesitate for the good of science.

I get paid $18k/yr, USD. Yeah, laugh all you want, you trade school jerks. "Muh opportunity cost", big deal. So you make $50k/yr plumbing from 18-30 while I break even with nothing to my name after undergrad loans are considered. WHO FUCKING CARES. Once I graduate, and then finish my post-doc at 35, I'll be able to find a job ANYWHERE IN THE FIELD. Do you know what the median wage is for biotech researchers in the Bay Area? 80-fucking-thousand dollars a year. You'll never have a salary like that, and certainly not living in such a nice area. That's not even considering all the Numeraire I earn.

And the hilarious thing is you guys think it's all about money. The money is only secondary. Do you have any idea what an honor and privilege it is to work in Dr. Blaustein's lab? I'd do it for free if I had to. There is nothing more rewarding than knowing you're playing a part in curing cancer.

>>42804769
yeah that is an absolutely insane boost-would be curious to see someone's blood work from before/after at least

>>42804784
>there are people who unironically live like this

>>42804752
The best is trade some areas in trade school. As the education doesnt take long, and its in high demand. Here electricians make the same as people with masters in trade.

Engineering in certain area would be the best, as they never get enough engineers and the job will never phase out, in certain areas.

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>>42804379
wait so you just eat borax in water or something
is that even safe

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>>42799314

don't talk shit about the rabu raibus

>>42804823
The 15mg supplement is a capsule with 15mg of elemental boron from boric acid.

>>42804823
it is safe, at least in the very small amounts you need - look it up if you don't believe me. some people take a tsp a day but that is much more than the required dose (10-15mg, borax is 11% boron by weight). you can also buy straight boron supplements but its not nearly as cheap obviously.

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>>42804784
>mfw most of my friends made 80k their first year out of undergrad

>tfw yoked stemfag because too smart to bet on athletic career
>tfw still want to pound a qt boipussi on the regular
How do I stop this?

>>42804784
Lmao fucking stem majors

>>42804784

>$80,000/year

My assistant makes more than that with a high school diploma

>curing cancer

Why would I care? I don't have cancer. How about you come up with a new and better protein shake instead of wasting your time trying to make global overpopulation even worse.

>>42804880
but you didn't?

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>>42806433

>>42804784
Im a high school dropout and a truck drive and i can earn 1000-6000 a week depending how much i work and guess what i can travel across the usa and go to concerts and parks ect. While getting payed to drop a load to some construction workers

>>42807186
>While getting payed to drop a load to some construction workers
that sounds pretty gay desu

>>42807186
>>42807292
It's called being a honey pot ho. He tucks them in porta potties and the construction sites.

>>42799420
FPBP

OP this is the only way.

>>42804271
500-700 ng/dl for a normal healthy male
freaks top 1000
sleeplets / gains goblins 100-300

>>42801289
>obviously didn't take any theory classes

>>42801355
Any tips education wise and how to get a job right away for a fellow anon?

>>42807492
Not him but: CS Is only viable choice in TLR. Get an internship. Actually apply places. If you aren't doing stem and CS, your job will be obsolete in 30 years.

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>>42807561
I'm doing mech eng, but right now I'm doing all of the math and science as well as gen ed first to get it out of the way. I've only taken two classes related to mech, so there's still time to switch to CS. I'll do some research on it later so I'll take your word for now. I just want to make a nice amount of money to live a comfy life.

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>>42807492
do some internships and make connections.
your faculty if they're on top of things should be organising things like student/industry nights, research scholarships, etc
uni is a bit about who you know and a bit of what you know.

all my friends who made connections (including me) got jobs straight out of uni. I've got a great gig, pretty much my dream job, no idea if I just got lucky or played my cards right.

>>42799314
what the FUCK is wrong with kero kero bonito

>>42799314
Hey what does /fit/ think about Andarine ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andarine
It's cheap as shit from poland and supposed to boost test 25% without all the negatives and pct with regular steroids.

>>42804643
>tfw don't eat onions because of an intolerance

Is this killing my gains?

>>42807561
What do you think of Accounting and finance? Good degree to do?

>>42799604
Literally nothing.

>>42807662
Honestly Mech is pretty dope. Whatever you do make sure you learn to code, bonus points for minoring in CS. That shit looks amazing on a resume, and companies are always looking for CS students.

>>42807855
As a major? I mean I don't think it will be tough to get a job if your good with people, and make tons of connections. If you like stats and have good soft-skills you'll be good. If you're in it for money go for CS

>>42807701
This is good advice. Networking is the best way to get work, better than having a 4.0. Many people will get jobs simply by making friends, or just by being amiable. If you can talk to people and aren't incel ugly/weird, you are ahead of 80% of STEM majors especially for CS.

Just a note: I am very entrenched in the idea that AI like Watson and DeepMind will have massive effects in every major industry. I'm probably a little off-target in how rapid future technologies will impact the average worker. However, being on the cutting edge of the science and getting into robotics and AI cannot go wrong.

>>42799314
why tf death grips up there? I kinda get anime but whatever fuck you, i lift for my waifu and im probably higher T than you

>>42807945
I like Death Grips, but you have to admit it's pretty edge-lordy when you ignore the artistic aspects, as people are wont.

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>>42801069
>Woe is me, my education sapped me of all my creativity and life is like so dreadful man :'(
>btw i'm in my early twenties aand I have a comfortably paying job with my entire future ahead of me
Shut the fuck up retard.
The only things that /literally/ restrict you to live your life as you choose is money, and you've got that covered.
Any other "problem" you have is a fictitiously conjured up by your crippling anxiety to cope with the fact that you've nurtured zero hobbies despite having enough free time and money to sustain them.
Holy fuck you're one huge faggot.

>>42807963
>when you ignore the artistic aspects
thats the whole point tho

>>42804784
Lmao STEM majors

>>42801355
>I'm literally just getting free money for basically nothing.
Do you mean to tell me you do nothing at your job, and get paid for doing nothing. Or is your use of present tense when referring to your free money for scholarships a Freudian slip, and you are in fact not making nearly 6 figures and are still in school? Either way, if you're doing nothing and getting paid, you should be concerned, since you're the first one on the chopping block in the event that your company/organization needs to downsize because of economic downturn ect.

Why does it seem that the entirety of /fit/ goes to college? College kids that go to the gym to look less beta. Fuck sake, learn a trade and get a real job that is actually of value in the real world. Not just memes that companies hire in an attempt to innovate when they have excess funds.

>>42801611

trades, construction, buying a farm and living off the land

>>42800702
It's true.

I work for a massive, bleeding-edge tech company and earn a decent salary. I like my teammates but the work is soul crushing. I am taking classes part-time to go to med school in a few years because I can't take much more of corporate engineering culture.

I was always more interested in fundamental sciences and humanities, and loved art and literature, but figured programming and engineering would be a safer bet with regards to finding a job. I was right. It isn't all bad - I get paid handsomely, which matters a lot because I came from a poor family - but I never loved it. I learned a lot in the past 8 years of STEM school + work, but I also sold some of my soul and I am desperately trying to claw it back.

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One day i will get fit and get a Lily Collins gf

I didn't eat much meat as a kid and had a pretty terrible diet during puberty

is there a strong chance that left permanent damage on test levels?

I'm about to try fadogia for the first time. Supposedly it increases testosterone and can even make your balls bigger.

Not sure how well it works myself, but it's worth a shot.

>>42800702
STEM is just a means to an end for me, not the end itself.

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>>42801690
bullshit

Has any ever given the onion juice thing ago? For the unaware they gave onion juice to lab rats and it increased there test by 3 fold on average.

>>42810021
I wouldn't recommend messing with your hormones like that anon

>>42810045
Man, shut yo dumbass up.

>>42810045
To be honest, for some if not most of us, a 3x increase would just bring us up to upper normal range

>>42809415
Not with that hairline bud

>>42810081
I doubt that
If you were very testosterone deficient it would be immediately apparent since your balls would be tiny, and I think most people have regular sized balls

>>42810119
I have 350 ng/dL my man

>>42801237

Just buy your supplements goy

>>42810123
That's not incredibly low and you could have had it measured at its lowest point, testosterone fluctuates massively

prebiotics?

>>42804275
Im bumping this because I'm right fellas

>>42799314
nothing wrong with tatami galaxy (bottom right corner)

>>42799622
Majority of STEM students are extremely low test.

>>42804052
t. Construction Nigger

>>42804654
I'm not that guy but you seem autistic.

>>42799420
>Injections
Steroids?

>>42808620
>come join me in the mines with Pablo and Tyrone, you b-beta college s-students

No thanks.

>>42799314
>stem
>low test
I'm in engineering and more than half the people here go to the gym. I constantly see people drinking protein shakes or eating magerquark and other shit during lectures.

>>42812882
>protein shakes
beta as fuck

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>>42812895
Speak for yourself, insecure cuck.

>>42810106
He just has widows peak mate ffs

>>42810021
How much onion juice should you drink?

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>>42799314
Nothing wrong with tomo and tomboys in general you fucking faggot

they are miracles of the universe and we are unworthy

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>>42799314
>tfw Mech. Eng. student
>tfw half the class lifts
>tfw we get together and buy protons in bulk to get discounts
>tfw our class is invited to every campus party

>tfw you are the smallest one in the group

I can't really put this feeling into words. Also labs are fun when they aren't "Observe and write"

if you get 9-10 hours of sleep a day for 1 month straight you will definitly have higher test thna whe you were only getting 6-7 hours of sleep.

Sleep enough and you'll become a man.

>>42801369
I studied CS and am one year out of school, making 90k after bonuses. Got the job 2 weeks after I started looking. No state income tax or sales tax in a relatively low cost of living state. Can pay off student loans in one year.
It's not even difficult to do, just go to class and get good grades. I only work about 40 hours a week and have time and money for my hobbies. Only disappointing thing is that I work with a lot of older people in a not particularly exciting or field of software development (routing and switching).

>>42812882
This is somewhat true. There's a lot of gymcels in STEM.

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>>42800939
>chaosandpain

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>>42800702
This is a load of crap.

The truth is that through most of human history, and for most people today, the work you do has nothing to do with ambition, passion, or personal satisfaction. Survival is the best that 99.5% of people hope for. But the ability to find work that intellectually stimulates you, provides for stability, and allows you the freedom in your personal time to pursue what you live is a good thing. STEM may not be as emotionally appealing as singing in a band or pursuing that microbrewery with your friends, but if you are passionate about doing things right and excelling in whatever situation you are in, STEM is a goldmine. It buys you a seat at the table in this world, which is more than I can say for most people.

I am lucky enough to be in a vocation that I deeply care about, and which will afford me opportunity. I am 31. My friends who pursued STEM like their jobs; they have had to shift from company to company in order to find the environment that works for them, but they are happy and healthy. Meanwhile, my friends who dithered because they were passionate about something that doesn't pay or they wanted to wait and "find their passion" are now struggling to make ends meet, and opportunities have passed them by.

If you are the kind of guy who's gonna make it, go after STEM unless you are willing to truly risk your life and happiness pursuing a passion. Otherwise, put your nose to the grindstone, make a career, get swole, and become a patrician.

>>42813472
*pursue what you love

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>>42801031
>>42801539
Wtf. In bongland the typical graduate in STEM salary is like £25000 and much less is most other fields

Every fucking day I realise that this country is even more cucked than I realised

>>42809888

Although there are increases in testicular size associated with this herb, there are some changes in biomarkers that suggest something in the plant could be damaging the cell membranes. This may not be a testicle-specific phenomena, and more studies are required to delineate what exactly is occurring

>>42801461
wtf's an endocrine disruptor

>>42813506

>He didn't become a Maintenance Operative for 30k a year with no experience fresh from college

LMAOing at your life right now.

>>42813570
Just looked that job up on indeed and they're all around £21k a year...

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>>42804784
I'm a physics PhD student focusing on topological superconductors and quantum computing research. I make $50k/year AND I get to crush your dreams by making it possible for machines to automate whatever your kind does.

>>42813524
I think he specifically means xenoestrogens

>>42813676
Seriously why are US graduates getting paid twice as much as UK? What the fuck?

>>42813410
What exactly do you get bonuses for?
Curious

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Wait, whats wrong with drinking water from plastic bottles????

>>42809409
LOL GET READY
you are leaving county jail to go to a fucking supermax prison
healthcare is a fucking soul crushing field
stay where you are

>>42799314
It is scary and funny how many of those describe my tranny friend. Like literally everything except STEM (or does programming count?).

>>42813856
Yes programming is technology. Seems you've been drinking too much from plastic bottles.

>>42813676
>anime pictures
>crushing anyone's dreams

Kek lad

>>42813856
Programming is STEM. Also so many trannies do programming it's weird

>>42813875
>>42813914
Well then they all fit I guess? And it's Big Data programming for social sciences so that's why I hesitated. Still a tranny stereotype. Apparently it's because they hate themselves and want a career where they can just stay indoors all the time.

>>42813951
As long as I don't have to look at them it's a win win

>>42807945
trannies being obsessed with death grips is actually a thing

>>42808620
>>42801355
not him, but I'm a programmer and it really does feel like "free money for basically nothing". this doesn't mean I'm lazy or don't do much, I'm one of the most productive in the company and get the most difficult tasks, but "difficult" doesn't mean "physically/mentally taxing", it means "if you're smart enough it's easy and if you aren't it's impossible". I worked retail/restaurant gigs for years making a fifth what I do now and that shit I'd be exhausted and drained all the time, but this is so easy it just feels like a joke

>>42813302
Tfw I automatically wake up after 8, max 8 and a half and can't go back to sleep.

>>42807963
If you ignore the art? It's fucking music, that's the whole point.

>>42801203
Are you retarded? Muscle growth has been shown to increase test levels indisputably. Jesus what has /fit/ come to

>>42801461
>2. Keep stress low.
this one always makes me raff

yeah sure bro I will just switch off the stress in my life, easy peasy. naah I will just meditate and do some mind shit and other pseudo scientific crap because that totally works and isnt just a waste of time

working out itself is already a huge stress to the body lmao

>>42804275
Does this shit actually work?

>>42800702
I'm getting my stem degree so I can get a job that will allow me to pay a good enough retaining fee on a lawyer that can get me out of murder charges. This one example just fucks your entire argument.

>estrogen in the water
>estrogen in plastic
>estrogen in foods

How, just how do I avoid that shit? Is it even possible. Do water filters even remove estrogen?

How do I get food without buying products filled with female hormones?

I wish I never discovered this site. It makes my life a nightmare.

>>42799314
So he uses Discord and plays no steam games but owns loads? I don't get what this has to do with grills anon.

>>42799314
test enanthate
hcg
arimidex

>>42815464
>increasing cortisol levels by stressing over estrogen consumption.
never gonna make it

What's wrong with plastic water bottles?

>>42815760
BPA in plastic raises estrogen levels supposedly.
I'd be more worried about factory-farmed dairy products.

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>>42799314
STEM
Wtf?
>Engineering is effeminate
Learned how to weld metal, and a great bunch of workshop tools from studying. Got a kickass job working with machinery and other men, no hen pecking. Thank fuck I didn't go in to the "testosterone fueled" artsy

>>42801203
You tried

>>42813195
Here's a definitive list of how gay you are based on what you like:
>femdom: most gay
First of all, the fact you want to be dominated is bad enough, but not a death sentence for your test levels - there are plenty of hightest, jacked gay dudes who like bottoming. This is the gayest because you like getting dommed by a woman.
>maledom: mostly gay
At least at this point, you're being dommed by someone who has first-rate test instead of barely any at all. Moreover, porn addiction almost always leads guys with even slightly bi tendencies to sissy shit in one way or another, and this is a kink that can be cured by as little as a month abstaining from porn.
>traps: not very gay
Like women, but more submissive. Just pull the dick out of the way.
>tomboys: least gay
It's like dominating a man, which is the ultimate marker of being alpha, but without having to get your dick covered in shit.

>>42799314
best way is not to be sedentary.

>>42804784
fucking lol tradies couldnt tell this was bait

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>>42813701
Sorry bongman but even 50k/year is on the lowside. I made 30k/year for my Freshman Mechanical engineering internship, now 42k/year for Junior year internship. Should be making 60 - 70k when I finish undergrad :)

So many tards in this thread; STEM (mostly just engineering and comp sci) is amazing especially if you're intelligent enough to invest what you make. Can easily retire by 45 - 50.

>>42799849
Chopping wood is goat test booster

>>42799314
TALK TO PRETTY GIRLS

>>42804036
I'm not concerned whether idiots take me seriously or not

>>42804784
>Blaustein

Oy vey

>>42801355
>>42801369
STEMfag reporting in - just turned 23 and making 115k base + equity + bonus. Anyone trying to discredit this can just go on r/cscareerquestions or paysa.com or glassdoor.com and see how much money you can make if you have the right skillset in the right place (CS degree in the bay area)

>>42816134
of course not

tradies are too stupid lol

>>42815806
you can tell that STEM is not effeminate at all by the fact that it includes many fields with less than 10% women

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>>42799314
>implying TRUE anime communism has ever been tried
inb4 venezuela

>>42801537
O lol so perhaps it would have been more accurate to say "i will make x this year"

But lets be real here this isnt the case and youre going off of some number peripherally in your life. Maybe that is the max salary the position is granted or something else.

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>>42800939
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>"A woman went into a German hospital with two pencils in her bladder, having pierced her urethra after inserting them during masturbation."
Dear god...

>>42804784
fresh pasta
what a nice smell it has!

>>42801555
don't believe this, currently at a STEM school, there is minimum good boi-pussy. There isn't even that many fags, only seen 3 so far. Lots of dikes tho

>>42801508
doesn't work, I used to be a small skinny autist, now that I got fit I'm just a muscular autist, everything else is the same.

>>42801545
http://www.paleoflip.com/nuts-which-ones-to-eat-and-which-ones-to-avoid/
^Good info on low pufa nuts (walnuts bad, cashews good)

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>>42815397
>I will just meditate and do some mind shit and other pseudo scientific crap because that totally works and isnt just a waste of time
anon...

>>42804209
It's still "increasing", though. If I'm low on oxygen and I breathe more to reach normal levels, I am still INCREASING my oxygen

>>42799314
I unironically lift to KKB

>>42807186
Enjoy being replaced by autonomous driving robots in 5 years

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>>42819077
got his ass

>>42804784
>Blaustein

Almost got me there.

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Carol is best girl, she increases my test.

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>>42801027
This desu

>>42813801

well the plastic can contain residue from the manufacturing process which get's absorbed into your drink which supresses testosteron manufacture in the body


you could drink just tapwater but unless you're getting it from a natural spring that's chockfull of female hormones due to all the roasties taking the pill