/fat/ wojak edition

check my weight every morning.


It drives me fucking nuts when it goes up even half a lb. Legit gives me mild anxiety, and I cut even harder the next day. Sub 1500 cals crew.

5'9" 167 lb today.

>>42747342
stop weighing yourself every day, weight always fluctuates

I read the first post

>>42747342
>>42747394
If it drives you nuts, stop doing it.

You enjoy it more if it always seems like you are making progress, which will be more likely if you wait a week or two.

>>42747319
Good job with these fatbros. I remember the first one of these popping up after I got fitter but I started off a fatfuck and stuff like these would have helped me a tonne. Keep up with the helpful threads.

>>42747319
>not adding the helpful links and junk
You get a C+ because you at least included a wojak.

Who is /fat/ for?
For /fat/fucks who want to better themselves through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication

>This is not QTDDTOT, ask questions about fat loss but use that thread for general questions

>Calculate your Body Fat Percentage
http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy (Gonna need waist/neck measurements)
>Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure)
http://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/ (complex)
http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html (simple)
>Plan your weight loss week by week
http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
>Track your calories and macros with MyFitnessPal, works best on smartphones
https://www.myfitnesspal.com

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>who /moderately chubby but feels obese when they look in the mirror/ here?
My BMI is 21.6 and I want to be at least 18.5.

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It's time to die
And everybody knows that you can't ask why
And even if the answer could be supplied
It wouldn't change the fact that it's time to die
It's time to die

Listen to your body

>>42747482
Me, honestly the worst feel is when I'm jogging/sprinting and I feel my fucking fat jiggling. I tend to avoid looking at myself in the mirror anyway, it doesn't help I have lots of stretchmarks and a below average size dick.

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>Get to 160lbs on insane anorexia diet
>Still kinda fat
>Mention it to my friend
>He looks normal but says he's slightly heavier than me
>Something is wrong here
>Approximate bf%
>About 35%
>Over a third pure fat
>Just over 100lbs lean mass
>Literally Auschwitz-mode in a fat suit

Okay, I'm going to take this one on the chin. The sticky was right, I was wrong. I'm a shit and I'm going to have to start eating a healthy diet and doing actual exercise now.

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How do you commit to only eating 1300 kcal a day?

>>42747584
Chewing gum is really helpful.

>>42747556
Time to pick up heavy objects for fun.

>>42747584
I only eat around 500, eat more high protein foods and drink water to drown your hunger.

You have to work to get to that point though, eat just a smaller amount less than the day you did before and eventually you would be able to do it

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Can we discuss these categories for a minute, bros?

If you go to the gym twice a week to do a lazy SL 2 day 5x5 program and walk ~30 minutes 5x a week, then what are you?

>>42747641
if you are cutting always pick sedentary

>>42747618
>i only eat around 500
jesus anon, why? If I don't eat every 5 hours at least I get nausea and dizziness.

>>42747664
eh? it works for me

>>42747584
its hard to do.

eat as little carbs as possible. aim for 50 carbs, whatever protein you need, and sub 30 grams of fat.

drink only water. Do intermittent fasting so your first meal is as late as possible.

Also do HIIT cardio to further increase deficit.

you can only do this for about 2-3 weeks before breaking down, so when you do decide to cheat, keep it under 2k calories.

>>42747663
how come? I'm at least slightly active aren't I?

>>42747682
I guess it depends on how consistent you are, but it would make sure you dont go over your TDEE for sure

>>42747618
>>42747664
500 a day member checking in. Some days are better than others. Some days its 1800 too. As long as your in a deficit and getting proper nutrients your gold. Oh, and lift.

>>42747705
My goal is to only lose 10 lbs of fat (from 145 to 135), so 1lbs a week is a fine pace for me so i think it's ok.

I'm pretty consistent anyway. I have lots of spare time between classes on those two days and I have to walk to get home or else I'm stranded.

>>42747726
If it works for you, then do it. Every one is different

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I recommend intermittent fasting to everyone here. I do 3 1 day fasts per week, eat anything I want on normal days but try to keep it under daily calorie expenditure. Also, I exercise most days for around 500 kcal burn(running or bike). I lose around half a kg after every fast this way.

>>42747556
God damn. Well at least lesson learned. Sucks you had to starve yourself to do it though.

>>42747664
I don't know about them, but I have to eat around that to lose weight because I'm short and have PCOS.
I'm not cool with it like the others seem to be, though.

Friendly reminder that if you literally do nothing you will lose weight.

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Lifting weights on a major deficit (I don't count, somewhere between 800-1200kcal) feels kinda pointless. I'm making gains but I imagine these are just "noob gains" and I'll plateau quickly. I'm thinking of just dropping my lifting routine once I plateau, using BCAA to maintain that muscle, and cardio/diet my way to my target weight. I can always build muscle later. Thoughts on this?

>>42747319
Down from 320 to 200. I'd like to get to 180 so I can be in actual great shape whenever the air force finally calls me with a ship date, but goddamn im sick of dieting.

>>42748087

Why do people recommend to stop drinking diet coke? It says 0 calories right on the label.

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is it healthier to fast the day after a binge? or to just return to eating normally?

i binged on like 4000+ calories last night, felt absolutely shitty and regretful when i woke up this morning, and skipped breakfast and lunch.

thinking about skipping dinner too. i feel fine physically so i might just do it.

>>42748107
You ate enough calories for multiple days, so you can fast perfectly fine

>>42748107

Yes, this totally tell's me you don't do extremes and you are actually forming discipline into your eating and drinking habits.

Good on you m8.

>>42748100
The artificial sweeteners apparently make people crave more sweets. I have no clue if coke itself has citric acid in it like most pop, but it's terrible for your teeth diet or not.

>>42748100
Bad for your teeth, generally shows lack of willpower and is an indicator for never making it. Have it once a week with your cheat meal but don't let it replace water.

fat fucks

>>42747726
We tend to underestimate how much we eat and overestimate how much we burn. These measurements are very approximate anyways. Just pick sedetary and think of the calories you burn with exercise as a nice little bonus.

650 yesterday, 450 today
should probably eat more before I flip again
that's the thing, I can go from not hungry to insatiable at the drop of a hat, I can't work it out, and I sure as shit can't find a balance

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>>42748178
Based "fat fucks" poster

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>>42748178
thanks bro, this literally made me make it.

>>42747342
do a weekly weigh in. same day, in the morning, after you go pee/shit.

>>42748107
How do you even do this? An *entire* Little Caesers pizza is only 1800kcal

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>>42748228
I've eaten close to 20k calories before, if not even more than that. I've never been clinically obese, but I've been up there. I've eaten 3 large pizzas in a single sitting, had room for dessert(two entire lemon meringue pies), and snacked on macadamia nuts the entire time. This was just one meal too.

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>September now
>205lbs
>4 months until New Years
What are the chances I'll be able to hit 170lbs by 2018 doing ADF and exercising 6 times a week? That's about 9lbs a month.

>lost 20lbs in a month by doing nothing but dumping soda/sweets/fast food and not eating too many carbs
There are pretty much no visible gains but a big number like that is pretty cool to see
Only 50 more to go

>>42748100
It's a part of habit-breaking.

Diet Coke, like any soda, is basically liquid candy. Even if it has 0 calories it's still feeding your sweet tooth. If you're going to permanently adopt a healthy diet it's necessary to learn to rarely taste sweet things.

>>42748292
>exercising 6 times a week
That's too much strain on body.

>>42748332
It's just 5x5 on lift days and 300-400kcal of cardio other days. That's not bad is it?

>>42748349
So 3 days lifting and 3 days cardio?

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>>42748228
hmm, this would do it for me;
There's at least 6k calories in there

>>42748228
i literally just ate a ton of peanuts lmao. those fuckers are so high calorie it's dumb.

>>42748330
>>42748143
>>42748174

So it's basically fucking nothing? I can live trough a diet coke and 2 scoops a day, good thing to know.

>>42748360
Yep. I go for walks on Sundays but nothing strenuous.

>cutting

I'm hungry when I wake up. I'm hungry when I go to sleep. I'm hungry when I eat, I'm hungry after I eat, I'm hungry. So hungry. I'm so fucking hungry god fucking damn it.

some days I just don't eat until a few hours before bed, I pig out the whole daily calorie intake just so I can stop being hungry for a little while and fall asleep without hunger pains. Even then, I've dropped 2k calorie meals and still was hungry during and after eating.

halp pls, what do

What is better, resistance training or cardio? Respectively speaking
>inb4 why not both fatass

>>42748287
absolutely kill yourself

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>had two small cheeseburgers and some grilled chicken at a family picnic
>tfw have no idea how many calories they were

How fucked am I?

>>42748100
0 calorie products aren't actually 0 calorie.

They are 5 carbs or less per serving. And I know that still isn't much, but if you eat a lot of 0 calorie products it very well could add up over a week.

That's not why people warn against diet soda, but it's important to understand.

>>42748097
Bad news, then. In order to maintain your weight loss you'll have to continue the healthy habits you've developed. You don't get to go back to the old ways.

>>42748400
In theory yeah but when it comes down to it fitness is 100% about building good habits and cutting out bad ones.

>>42748436

800 if we're overestimating (300x2 for burgs, 200 for chicken). Generally if I eat stuff when I'm out I like to overestimate to be safe.

>>42748436
Use MFP to estimate, dude. The buns should be pretty standard. The burgers may fluctuate a bit, but you can ballpark it fine. Chicken is chicken.

Eat ice chips tomorrow.

>180lb
>23.7 fat percentage
>fitness trainer trying to get me down 5% this month

god I hope I make it. I haven't been thin since I was a middle schooler.

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>>42748087
Pls respond

>>42748330
>If you're going to permanently adopt a healthy diet it's necessary to learn to rarely taste sweet things

What was the proverb about apples, doctors and days, I seem to have forgotten.

>>42748087
There is no point lifting weights on a deficit unless you're cutting. If you want to make gains bulk and then cut.

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>>42748287
Wait so you ate more than this?

I've pretty much made it and everyone is praising me for making it except for my oneitis which is my flatmate i thought she rejected me cause i was ugly and fat although we slept together and made out. She told me she doesnt want a relationship and is not ready for it and wants to be free during uni. Im a grown up man and still have crushes and fall in love and cant get over women. I made it from 280 lbs to 185 lbs with decent programm and diet but still invisible to her. Do i just give up and go back to my old fat ugly lazy self. I cant believe i started so late to get my shit together and i feel its already to actually enjoy life.

I swear it doesn't get any easier. 6'1 and I just can't go lower than 170

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I wanna know what fats think of women like this rather than /fph/-ers.

Body positivity, rational or total AIDS?

https://youtu.be/Uzvv_5czpys?t=2m48s

>>42748595
I have, yeah
not in one go, my stomach isn't that huge

>>42748100
Anecdotally, I've tried to lose weight under 205 pounds several times and always failed and relapsed. This time I stopped drinking diet coke. The results being that, not only am I making it to sub 205 effortlessly, but I haven't had cravings for sugar, my willpower has felt in top form (previously I had a hard time getting out of bed, studying, workout out etc when losing weight), and I'm pretty sure I'm losing more fat in my gut and man boobs than I was previously. Keep in mind I'm also doing nofap, and chewing nicotine gum, so that might contribute.

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>>42748648

really depends on the person. I have seen fat women who are fat because their genetics are pretty shit and are on perpetual steroids to stay alive. Others are fat because they are lazy fucks who eat junk food all day and have normal genetics.

we can't fully determine how they are fat or how they truly think of themselves without seeing their full lives.

>>42748576
You mean the marketing gimmick for one of the least nutritionally dense fruits?

>>42748705
>believing steroids are an excuse

>>42748100

I drink like 5 cans of diet soda a day. now I am trying to kick the habit but my body isn't used to this lowered caffeine life. but it is healthier and you don't retain as much water weight which is nice.

>>42748436
You're fine my dude. If it helps you feel better,
>6 cuts of brisket
>4 ribs
>2 slices cheesecake (traditional, and deep dish)
>4 slices banana pudding cake
>??? amount of broccoli casserole
>3 pieces of fried chicken
I'm not so bad off though, I figure my one gum-strip meal today aught to set me back in the straight and narrow since my maintenance calorie count is just at 3k

>>42748604
Just because one cunt (and she is a cunt, don't talk yourself out of that) doesn't appreciate you nd used you as a vibrator and threw you away doesn't mean you can't find a girl. You're in the best health of your life now. Go out there and find the girl that will appreciate who you are.

>>42748705
> I have seen fat women who are fat because their genetics are pretty shit and are on perpetual steroids to stay alive

Yeah I have too, in fact that describes three of my aunts perfectly. Strangely enough, the other three who work out, don't smoke, and work out regularly aren't on steroids or pain pill. Seems that genetics work in strange ways, who REALLY can say how genetics will manifest themselves from the magic dimension from which they come, to randomly and unpredictably strike out at innocent people who have done nothing whatsoever to deserve their fate.

Fuck you.

>>42748771

what are you even trying to say you dumb nigger?

>>42748708
Yes I'm sure big apples came up with this clever scheme 150 years ago.
Also why would you purposefully lie about verifiable facts, as far as nutrient density in fruit goes, apples place in the upper middle.

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Any of you actually paid a visit to an endocrinologist? You'd be surprised how fucked up the body can get from years of being fat.
Thank god I'm not a burger, so healthcare is very affordable.
>fatty infiltration on liver
>the same on pancreas
>elevated uric acid
>renal microlithiasis caused by it

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>>42748784
Why couldn't marketers lie 150 years ago?
I really hope you're wrong about apples being in the upper middle, because these micros are SHIT.

>>42748780
Read you dumb nigger, I made errors in my writing but the point is clear. Genetics are not an excuse, I know because I come from an extended family of seven females. The ones who take care of themselves do not have these "genetic" fatty problems.

>start losing weight
>don't stop
>fatas fatass to hungry skelly
>try maintenance calories
>instantly gain 4lbs
>back to the deficit
who /purgatory/ here?

>>42748808
this whole chart is useless without a portion size

>>42748840
Portion size is one apple, it didn't fit in the screenshot.
And you sure as hell know since it's over 90 cals, stop shitposting.

>>42748793
Fuckiglng Christ. I don't even want to think about how fucked up I am

>>42748202
I weigh before/after I pee/shit just to weigh my shit/pee too.

>>42748839
Just water weight my man

>>42748839
Probably just water weight anon. Keep eating at maintenance, 4lbs is the most you'll probably gain.

>>42748604
She's a fucking typical irresponsible millennial whore who wants to fuck around until she's ugly and fat and then she'll come crawling to you, drop her now, trust me.

>7 hours 41 minutes until my day of fasting is over and i can eat something
father give me strength

>>42748851
so now recalculate for 100 grams so we can do some actual comparing to other fruits

>>42748839
>tfw 5'10 135lbs and still look like shit because of loose skin and lack of muscles
I'm apparently 14% bodyfat but I absolutely look awful still.

>>42748818
>>42748818
> I made errors in my writing but the point is clear

no your point wasn't clear you cum guzzling faggot

>Genetics are not an excuse, I know because I come from an extended family of seven females

Genetics aren't an excuse but they always play a part.

>>42748852
It's better to know and start fixing it instead of enjoying ignorance, and then suffering when it's too late to fix

>>42748766
I know but it just so demotivating since shes so friendly with me and etc and i know for sure im still the only guy she has done anything with. The only reason i made it is for her and i cant seem to understand her. I saw her for first time after 2 months today and its back the obsession of her. I just better off killing myself. Being fat and ugly just ruined my mental health for rest of my life.

>>42748793
how fat were you? my worst was 245 @6'1

>>42748793

>implying by the time that shit starts mattering I won't be dead from a nuclear holocaust, gun shot wound, or virus that wipes out man kind.

>>42748921
Dude see a therapist. You're not doing well mentally.

Does lifting burn more calories than cardio, or is that only when you're actually building muscle mass? I'm eating -1000kcal below TDEE so that's not gonna happen.
>dude just cut -500
No, I want to lose weight faster, -500 is too slow

>>42748880
I just looked at a few other fruits based on per kcal (basing it on weight is useless) and apples were significantly worse to both avocado and banana.
Bananas weren't great either, my argument isn't necessarily "apples are worse than other fruits", it's more "the majority of fruits are lacking in micros and veggies should be preferred".

If we are looking at macros and micros fruits are the most useless whole foods, so I agree with the anon saying stay away from sweet things.
However they do have antioxidants and shit.

>>42748921

>The only reason i made it is for her and i cant seem to understand her

see a therapist senpai that shit isn't healthy.

>>42748897
>but they always play a part

Genetics are not an excuse, this is mutually agreed upon, yes? Therefore they are not relevant when excusing poor eating habits, and not relevant when addressing the diseases that develop from them. To say, "they play a part" is to dismiss your previous statement, "they are not an excuse", they are inconsolable, and you are wrong. Fuck off, excuses of all types deserve zero tolerance.

>>42748921
Bitches and whores(women) have a 6th sense about this kind of insecurity, you're really unappealing to her because you're easy to get. Find more attractive women to make her jealous, make yourself more desirable not just physically but mentally too.

>>42748933
Was 300 lbs 6'2" at my worst, under 270 now

>>42748974
>>42748950
I just wanted to take it off my chest thanks for reading my posts. I cant see a therapist due to financial issues and i dont wanna visit the uni one. Anons i hope you all make it in the end

>>42749017
Visit the uni one or a city sponsored one. Most cities have people you can talk to for free and will figure out if and what medications you need to be on. It probably will be the best thing you can do for yourself now that you're healthy again.

>>42749043
I was hooked to benzos in my teens dont wanna go that route aaimmgain i jusdmt need to focus on moving on with my life and not get attached to women like a teenager

>>42749112
You probably need to be on SSRIs my man. Explain you had an addiction and they won't give that shit to you.

>>42748993
> Therefore they are not relevant when excusing poor eating habits, and not relevant when addressing the diseases that develop from them.

when the fuck was I excusing poor eating habits you ignorant fuck? Poor eating habits will always be the big factor in shit tier health. But to completely cut out genetics as a factor in someone's body health is total fucking bullshit. So no you fuck off you can't just cut everything down like that retard.

>>42749017
> i dont wanna visit the uni one.

why not senpai? they are supposed to be free and sometimes you just need some fuckhead that you can vent to about your problems.

>be completely sedentary fat fuck
>start having chest pains, racing heart
>oh shit its catching up to me.gif
>fly off the handle
>start aggressively dieting and exercising in an attempt to reverse the cardiovascular damage
>physical checkup and blood work come back normal
>a month later self diagnose it as anxiety attacks
>can get heart rate and headaches under control with concentration, relaxing, etc.
>keep aggressively dieting anyway
>down 30 lbs from 3 months ago

Thank god for false alarms. It was the trigger I needed to adopt a healthier lifestyle.

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Down to the 230s from 310 since late March.

Feels to be makin' it.

Picture unrelated.

>>42749388
Keep at it man. You're riding the wave down.

>>42749449
You're doing fucking awesome man.

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Does anyone else feel like they generally have no idea what the fuck they're doing?

I'm doing all the research I can into diet and exercise, but there is a lot of conflicting information, and I'm not going to be able to tell if my system works for several months. Am going to be ripped? Am I going to be skinnyfat? Am I losing too much muscle? Am I gaining muscle? Is this healthy? Is this destroying me?

>>42747319
Former fatass here with some hard truth.
You have to sincerely want to lose the weight and, more than that, you have to sincerely come to like whatever form of exercise it is that you do.
Also find healthier substitutions for soda. I found success with tea but others might prefer coffee, sparkling water, so on.
You have to really want to change. That's key.

>>42749500
I did
now what

>>42749476
Analysis paralysis
Just eat below maintenance and you'll be losing weight, that's all there is to it

>>42748419
Drink more water
Like seriously, a shitton of water
Aim for 3~4 liters a day

>>42748874
You can do it, man
Just occupy yourself with something else. Work/school or if you aren't doing nothing, bingewatch a show or clear your movie backlog

>>42749531
I have two 1 gallon pitchers, I finish one of them and usually drink half the other daily.

I think I'll start downing a glass with a few tablespoons of metamucil after every meal, I hear it helps people feel full.

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>>42747680
>expecting us fat asses who got here with little self control and issues that cause us to binge to eat at such a low deficit witch will require god tier self control

>computer breaks
>trying to make time go faster to get more paychecks to build another one

On the other hand, being away from the gaming crackpipe has made it easier to focus on losing weight.

>>42749622
I know what a gains goblin is but what's a low deficit witch?

Heres a question for you guys, I started taking suppliments when I started my lifestyle change but does the brand count? Like surely a multi vit tab is a multi vit tab wherever you go? Just wondering cause I normally buy my multi vit/fish oil/vit C at the local asda (walmart in america) and was wondering if they would be classed as not as good in some way.

>>42747556
You should have lifted retard. >>42748087
Lift weights retard.
>>42748433
Resistance training.
>>42748579
Shut up, retard.


Fat beginners will increase their lean body mass while cutting if they lift and keep protein high. It makes cutting mite effective, and you will look much better when you reach goal weight.
People that cut without lifting inevitably look like skeletons that have been dipped in molten ballistics gel. Disgusting, skinnyfat garbage. The ones that lift look a million times better once they reach goal weight.
Suggesting to somebody to not lift while cutting should be a fucking bannable offense. It's that fucking stupid.

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female, 5'5", 170 lbs here. my weight has remained the exact same for the past month. past 2 weeks I've been eating 800 calories, exercising through dancing, walking a few miles etc. but haven't lost shit. also water fasted 24-48 hours a few times. only during the fasts I get down to 164, but that's just water weight and I get it back if I eat 800 cals again
legit considering this anorexia ass diet.

>>42749697
If you plateau is because you are eating more than you think you are, weigh your food and log it with myfitnesspal or another similar app

>>42749526
I have my own unique diet and workout routine to maximize fat loss and fit my schedule, I just don't know how effective it is compared to how effective it could be, that's all.

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>>42747482
Fuck, me too. My BMI is 21.3, but I've never actually been overweight before (my BMI right now is the highest it's ever been). I still feel disgusting though.

>>42747482
definitely
people just don't see the fat that I do
I'm nearly there anyway, no more fuckups and it's in the bag in time for the holidays

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>can't stop getting medium dunkin coffee every morning.

I'm losing weight but feels bad having this vice that just messes with macros

>>42749697
My sister says the same thing.

So I ask her to list off everything she's eaten that day. Here's what I learned:

1. She "forgets" that she ate some foods, then doesn't count their calories until I add it up for her
2. She continues to drink soda
3. She continues to eat snacks and chocolates (oh 10 crackers topped with jelly and cream cheese is just a snack I don't count those - no ffs that's a goddamn meal in itself)
4. She doesn't count her calories right - she overestimates how much she burns, and underestimates how much she eats
5. She thought her calorie maintenance was what she needed to lose weight
6. She ate over her calorie maintenance anyways, but convinced herself it was okay because of exercise
7. She dramatically over-estimates how much she burns from working and walking around (sorry no, you have not burned 3000 calories in a 6 hour shift working at a supermarket, I don't care what your fitbit says)

She tells me she sticks to her diet - "1400 calories per day or less, no matter what!"; I ask her if she's gained or lost weight this week: "Oh, I put on a pound". I grit my teeth and tell her that it is impossible for her to put on a pound of fat in a week if she is eating at or below her daily calorie limit.

No end to excuses. She's 28, she'll be 29 soon. If she doesn't wake the fuck up she's going to be 35 and wondering what the fuck happened to her life that she has no boyfriend, no husband, no children, and I just don't know how to help someone who refuses to help themselves like this.

So all I can tell you, buddy, is stop making fucking excuses and start getting autistic about your calories in and out.

Are you human or an animal?

>>42749697
Incorrectly counting calories. I NEEDED a food scale for the first couple weeks to figure things out proper

>>42747342
Congratulations, you are developing an eating disorder, you did it! We are all so proud

>>42749914
>tfw making mad metabolism gains with 2-4 cups of non-sweetened coffee every day

>>42748604
She isn't obligated to love you. Accept it and move on. I'm sure you can find someone who is into you.

You are young enough to be in college, deal with this chick you have already fucked not wanting more. Your life isn't over.

>>42748287
Do you even taste the food after a certain point?

>>42748419
What is your cal goal? And your diet?

It sounds like keto could help but if you're doing something reatarded like 500 cal a day then that won't do any good.

Omg I chewed on 8 mints Did I break my fasting?

>>42750151
you barely even chew it

>I chew through 2 tins of gum a day to stick to my diet
>24 pieces
Is there any downside to this?

>>42749764
Its shit.

Compared to people who use their body for a living its shit. Now that you have that out the way focus on what works for you and responded as needed. Biceps small? Throw more curls in. Feel like a long cut is slowing down? Take a break and eat at maintenance.

End of the day you gotta sculpt to meet your needs.

>>42749697
>no mention of diet
>better starve myself
ok.jpeg

>>42750205
>literally becoming Kirby
At least he got powers.

>>42749659
I'm honestly tempted to take a pic of myself to show what a 6'6" man looks like without lifting at 180 pounds.
I look like someone 30 pounds heavier while being under 6'.

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Whats some good low cal craving killing snacks to stack up on cuz Irmas coming to fuck my shit up.
>tfw SFL

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This is not bad at all, considering I'm not doing any exercizing yet. Please ignore the carbs and sugars, I made chicken and veggies soup for dinner but couldn't find anything similar on the database so I went with a generic one that probably had potatoes and shit.

And yeah, I need more protein.

Down to 203 from 220. My goal is 135. Plz halp.

BTW, is it ever safe to eat under your BMR? My BMR is 1,862 calories and I could probably manage to eat 1600 for faster results. Should I?

>>42750362
lrmas and sfl have no meaning to me.
Anyway fermented foods like pickles and sauerkraut have almost no calories.

>>42750374
I did it for 9 months, barring maybe a dozen days
no maladies in all that time

>>42750362
pickles, watch the sodium

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>>42750421
>>42750447
Thanks for the suggestion but I find most fermented food vile

also its a category 4 Hurricane heading towards Florida

>>42750374
I'm eating 1000-1400 calories and my BMR is supposedly 2.5k, feel fine, losing about 2lbs a week.

>>42748087
I'm down from 275 to 215. I lift 3x a week and I can't say for sure, but I feel like if I didn't lift, I would look like shit. I don't have loose skin and I have gains noob or not. Just lift man! You will be stronger, and have more flexibility. You will get noob gains and you will plateau but it's only temporary. I hit a plateau halfway through but I'm increasing weight now.

Don't make excuses. Just do it.

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>just did 20 minutes straight of running @ 5mph.

Three-ish months ago I couldn't even run for 50 seconds. Feels pretty neat

>>42750508
Good job! Keep up the good work.

How do you guys keep track of time while doing Couch to 5K? And how much soreness is acceptable? I'm still feeling some pain even after the rest day

>>42750537
Soreness goes away or at least get bearable after you start exercising

Pain is usually sharp, doesn't get better and spikes with any movement

If you feel pain, take a break before you injure yourself

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>>42750508
do you mind sharing your secrets?
I used to walk 5km a day every day and still had fuck all ability to jog for more than 30 seconds

>>42750464
Assumed the I in irma was a l for some reason, confused me.
Really dark chocolate, gum, vegetables like carrot and celery.
Just came back from clearwater, now I'm comfy in the midwest.
B safe anon.

>>42747342
Stop it. You'll get anorexia that way.

>>42750603
Not him, but just run more. A week ago I couldn't even sprint 50 yards once, now I'm doing 6 reps of 50 yards without rest.

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Confess to me the transgressions that have led you into a cycle of fat samsara and come one step closer to the nirvana of fitness.

>>42750362
Whipped cream in the spray can. Seriously. It's only 1g of fat and 1g of carb per serving. A few shots of that and 2 tbsp. of peanut butter a day wards off sugar cravings for me.

>>42750603
A proper breathing methods helps a ton. i saw some video where this dude recommended inhaling and exhaling to match your stride.

Step. Inhale. Step. Inhale. (nose)

Step. Exhale. Step. Exhale (mouth)

I noticed that jog/running like this makes me not get winded as fast during cardio.

Also standing up straight with head in the air and shoulders back lets more air in and push out gut to really breath in that air.

I started with low speeds when I started C25K. 3 mph for walk/jog and 4-5 mph. My legs are no longer in pain at all during or after run, or even the day after. I started running only when I hit an overweight BMI. Before that all cardio I did was extremely light, and I stayed on week three of C25K for a while because I didn't want to rush the program and burn out my legs.

>>42750578
Thanks for the help anon, I think I'm just worrying too much about doing things wrong, this stuff is still quite new to me

>>42750662
I have been in skinnyfat hell for 2 years now with no escape.
The past 2 weeks I've fallen out of depression (which has happened before) but this time I think I know how to stay out of it.
The biggest thing is things have been so difficult these 2 weeks it's helped me internalize that I prefer to be depressed as I don't have to deal with emotions, I have depersonalization/derealization and have many coping mechanisms to keep myself in them.
Ate a shitton of macaroni today at a cookout.

Today I ran 40 min, and I'm going to force myself to do so for this entire month.
I'm going to start doing lifting too, this newfound emotion is fucking shitty and I don't like truly caring about my future and those around me.
I'm going to go fucking hard this entire month and see what happens, sorry for blogging but I had to get it out there to somehow turn a thought that could be easily lost into physical form where I can't deny it.

At what point can you no longer feel your fat jiggling around when you run? 15%? 10%?
>still probably around 25%

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What daily supplements/pills/enhancers/whatever do you take, /fat/? Would you recommend anything you take as something that everyone ought to try?

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>>42750662
I went to Cici's Pizza tonight. I smelled the pizza at Walmart and the cravings set in and for some reason I just fucking gave in. I'm now four beers into a drinking session, which I almost never fucking do anymore and I think I'm going to add on some of the hard liquor I still have from my fat, drunk days while I'm at it.

I don't understand why I gave into the pizza craving or why I'm throwing gasoline onto the fire with all the alcohol either.

>>42750830
Fish oil, unless you eat a lot of omega 3 sources. L-Theanine if you have any sleep related issues. Probiotics, because it probably helps.

>>42750750
Wanna know this too, it's really demoralizing when I feel my spare tires jiggling

What am I doing this for?
I don't have any friends, any hobbies, any interests
my lifestyle turned me into a blob and I've been battling it, but my lifestyle is always gonna be the same, so I'll always be fighting nature
I have no reason to be fit, I don't deserve to live longer, I'm sure as shit never gonna run a marathon just for fun
being in shape just isn't compatible with how I live, and it'll be a life of misery trying to fight the tide

>>42750176
20% cal reduction, basically following scooby's diet plan/calculator.

I'm doing well in the weight loss, not noticing too much muscle mass loss because my job is more blue collar stuff that keeps me on my feet and naturally lifting/pushing/pulling things. I simply feel like a chrono trigger 2300 AD resident all the time.

just ate some KFC...
1 1/2 chickens
1 cup mazbed potato's
2 biscuits
some gravy
my family liked it but desu every time I binge the food tastes worse and worse. I get 0 good vibes from unhealthy food. going to fast tomorrow cuz why not.

> tfw grocery store has pints of gelato on sale for $1 when they are usually like $6


this isnt going to end well is it...

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>tfw lose weight in my face, arms, and legs first
>fat ass fucking gut, handles and man tits are staying exactly the same even after 3 weeks, especially the lower back fat which never, ever goes away

Fuck my body god dammit

>>42750868
why not? because you'll binge in another few days, that's why not

>>42750830
Vitamin D, Omega-3, Vitamin C
I don't really need the C but I like how they taste

>>42750830
A multi, vit C, two fish oil tablets, a broccoli max mainly for Sulforaphane, and a 5000 unit vit D all taken at once after my first meal of the day.

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>>42750908
these things take time friendo
you've done great work so far, keep it up and you will get what you desire
You're lifting too, right?

>>42750909
when I dont want to binge I eat 1 marshmallow and a bit of raw onion. it stops me from doing so

>>42750830
Multivitamin, one of those vegetable powder things for a drink in the morning, and L-Arginine

>>42750982
Thanks anon. Yeah, I'm lifting, guess I just gotta stay positive, no way was I going to give up after only 3 weeks, just getting a little frustrated seeing how the weight melts off those areas but I stay fat as fuck in the mid-section, especially my lower back. I have more lower back fat than people 2x my size, I swear, so I wanted it to go away first.

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How good is the Brooklyn pizza at Dominos? Under 1800kcal, thin crust, lots of surface area to savour, might be a good cheat day food (assuming I ate nothing else and ran off a couple slices)

>>42750234
sugar free gum has a mild laxative in it. You might end up with the shits... it's happened to me

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I ate pp&j tipple Decker with a glass of milk
a hand full of chocolate chips and almonds
5 baby back ribs
a half cup of dry popcorn pre popped and 2 tbsp of oil
a protein shake
8oz of broccoli
bike atr the gym for 3o minutes high intensity after a good chest day

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/fat/ is this a bad dinner, good dinner, meh dinner?

also I swear to christ that isn't ranch, it's some poppy-seed vinaigrette stuff and i put half the recommended serving on to it

>>42751407
good dinner, although I wouldnt use dressing at all, that alone can add TONS of calories

>>42751437
K i'll finish this bottle and stop after that, they say it's like 70 cal a serving but i'm sure the sodium isn't helping

taking a shit before weighing

wish me luck

>>42751445
As long as you measure it properly, then I see no problem with using it, but it can be dangerous

>>42751446
gl anon

>>42751446
REEEEEEEEEE IT ONLY SHAVED OFF A POUND

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>>42747482
My BMI is 23.4 and the mirror's fine as my fat roll spreads out evenly. It still looks bad when I peek down, due to the angle.
It's sitting that ruins everything, damn thing sticks out like a floppy dick.

>>42751407
Good, but probably better if you doubled the veggie bowl.

>>42750985
If you binge when you want to, how the fuck does stopping yourself when you know you don't want to actually solving the problem?

>>42751638
>Marshmallow and raw onion
Sounds like he's trying to classical condition himself to not eat sweets.

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in the middle of a 36 hour fast right now to make up for a huge binge i had last night while blazed

blazed again right now, but i won't binge this time

wish me luck anons

Started at 5'9, 185lb
About 4 months later I'm at 163lb

Hoping to get under 150lb and then build muscle from that point.

But it's starting to get rough, depression setting in and motivation disappearing.

All because of a girl too, which is stupid I know.

>>42750834

Shake it off and get back on the wagon tomorrow.

And stop.

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I was going to ask if I should order this, but I did the math and it's saving me $25 over buying at my local import shop.

I'm glad yogurt and peanut butter is working for breakfast, because it's easy enough to stick with.

>>42747342
don't listen to the niggas telling you you'll get an eating disorder. I'm in that crew w ya. we're fine.

Fell off the wagon hard and Ive drunk 18 pints over the last 3 days.
And I'm certainly not showing any signs of slowing

>>42752053
You posted here because you want us to get you to stop, and you know it. So fuckin' knock it off.

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mates my tdee is 2700 but i can eat 1300 and not feel hungry, but i've heard if you eat anymore than 500 under tdee it'll fuck your metabolism and you'll plateau or something. is this bullshit?

>>42752068
But there's no earthly way of knowing in which direction I am going

>about to bed hungry tonight

it's a good feeling, knowing you're gonna make it

>>42752094
starvation mode doesnt exist,

>>42752094
I ate at 1300 for a month or so before stalling hard for about two weeks, ate at TDEE for 3 days to rejigger my shit, and went back to losing weight at 1300 immediately after that.

So if you stall, eat at TDEE for a few days and it will probably help you. I'm planning to take a TDEE weekend whenever I feel like I'm not making progress.

My TDEE is around 2100, BTW.

>>42752095
Are you quoting song lyrics?

>>42752094
I don't know about that particular number, but the concept is not bullshit: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-show-biggest-loser-winners-regained-weight-big-fat-truth-2017-6

daily reminder that if you guys don't lift you're going to look like shit when you're finished

I'm only trying to help you here, start lifting ASAP

>>42752095
Get out of the fucking chocolate factory

>>42752345
You want to help, do it more : there's a debate on /fit/ that ss will not help your looks.

If we're lifting for looks, what should we be doing?

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i cant stop eating hard boiled eggs

What are some really filling foods

>>42752486
anything with fat and protein

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>0 calories
>0 anything pretty much
>just fiber

Why isn't your entire diet shirataki noodles yet /fat/?

>>42752094
>>42752307
The study that report came from is unfortunately the only one I've ever seen on anything related to that. You can go read it, but the tldr is that extreme weight loss causes extreme TDEE damage, which repairs itself somewhat over years.

I've never seen any studies that say that milder weight loss or long term dieting causes TDEE damage, it just seems to be unstudied.

There are studies saying that for a few weeks, low calorie is harder to deal with than no calorie (with supplements), but they didn't seem to check TDEE, just body composition.

>>42751844
>girl
>build muscle
for what?

>>42752582
>TDEE damage

stop saying this. TDEE is a number, it cannot be "damaged"

>>42752486
Burritos. Don't know if it's the tortilla or what.

>>42752544
>>42752690
like low calories stuff I mean.

>>42749388
well done matey, hitting 290lbs and getting db t2 was my kick in the arse. Down to 199lbs so far, diabetes free for 7 months and still going. It's weird how the brain switches when potential death raises its head. Just wish I hadn't been so fucking stupid to put it on in the first place.

>>42749500
Yup, I don't do anything overly exciting but I like walking and I really like basic nooby dumbell lifting - also I've started doing negative chin-ups in the hope of doing a proper chin-up before the end of the year (probably gonna be sooner than that I hope) - so yeah, enjoying the exercise helps a lot.

>>42750374
You'll be fine - when I started at 290 I had somedays when I was only eating about 1400 a day. Kept that up for a few months but it wasn't sustainable after I'd shifted 60lbs or so. Now I'm on about 1800 a day and still losing (doing keto though now)

>>42749500
>Also find healthier substitutions for soda
I drink diet one. It's not ideal substitute but it has much much less sugar than regular one.

>>42750830
I take a fair bit. Done my research and while some might argue a few are meme quality, they seem to work for me. Take these in the morning.

Zinc 40mg
VitaminD 10000iu
Vitamin K2 200mcg
Generic multivitamin
L-Arginine 1000mg
Maca Root 2500mg
Magnesium 400mg
Sunflower Lecithin 1200mg
Omega3 1000mg
Green Tea 1000mg
Garlic 6000mg

and MSM 1000mg at night with an extra green tea tablet.

To be honest, I feel fantastic and no doubt most of that is due to diet and exercise, but I'd like to think some of that shit helps even just a little bit. Oh but I've noticed my skin looks better since I started taking the MSM.

>>42750908
Know that feel. Belly, pubic area and mantits still look fucking appalling but in my case, that's the price to pay for getting to hambeast level. I've done a lot of reading about it and apparently they're the last areas of stubborn fat to go and you can't really rate yourself till you get down to 10% bodyfat. At that point, if you still look like shit then start worrying. In the meantime, keep going. Either way, even with saggy shit you're going to do better, look better and feel better than you would as a small planet. I know I do.

>>42752345
This is true. I wish I'd started doing weights earlier on in my weight loss routine - though I started about 6 months ago and have got my nooby gains. Also - it makes you feel awesome which is kinda nice.

>>42748107
I'd say do a fast for a day. It won't kill you but it will help with getting your insulin levels back on track a bit more. If you do the binging fasting thing on a regular basis however, you might have a much harder time making it. Stick to whatever amount of kcals you have to stick to in a day, fatty.
>>42748178
'sup
>>42748371
absolutely disgusting. think about the cravings you would be having for days after eating this.
>>42752374
kek
>>42752380
your belly will tell you when its time to stop.

I'll share my experience. I did some stupid shit when I was younger and went on 500kcal a day diets. I lost a lot of weight because of the severe deficit however I did balloon back to double the weight I was before I started doing stupid shit. Now I'm on IF, on 1500 - 1600kcal a day and it does not even feel like being on a diet. I've lost 15kg in a couple of months. Not even for a day I've felt like I've starved myself.

So why are some of you guys doing the 500kcal thing?

>>42750857
i feel you so much my dude, pardon if my english is not so good for it's not my native language.

i felt the same way you did, i knew that being fit won't do wonders for my life beside easy pussy i guess, but one day while listening to some hippie fuck giving a speech about a hippie book i heard something that hit close home, he said something along the lines "Make your body move the same speed as your mind" and i realized im a pretty smart guy but my body is holding me back, even if it sounds like a kid writing... I want to jump higher, run faster, be able to move my body as swift as the wind, escalate walls, swim faster, don't feel pain when i run, or when i walk uphill. I just want to enjoy little things in my life without those little bumps of bitter pain, or lazyness, i want to move freely.

sorry for the blog my dude, hopefully you find your motivation, don't do this for pussy, do this for yourself, and nothing else, do this because then you will learn to love yourself, and by loving yourself people will love you too. You will make it, we'll all make it.

>>42753079
Are you japanese?

>>42748287
How is that physically possible?

>>42747584
eating an absolute ton of vegetables.

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>>42753113
No, I'm Jewish but living in Japan.

If I eat 1500 kcals under my maintenance five days of the week then eat at around maintenance on my weekend my body will still lose weight, right? I've been doing this for over two months now, during the first month I lost 10 lbs but during the second I only lost eight. I'm worried that not keeping my diet consistent throughout the week might be having an effect on me. Yes I recalculated my TDEE as I lost weight, I am consistently eating at the correct amount and eating the same exact foods each work day.

>>42750671
>low cal snacks
>Whipped cream in the spray can

Jesus fuck. American lack of nutritional awareness is terrifying.

>only 1g of fat and 1g of carb per serving

Rule #1: per serving info is fucking useless. Considering canned whipped cream has twice as much fat as it does carbs, that's some heavy rounding down and the "serving" is somewhere around a tablespoon.

>A few shots of that and 2 tbsp. of peanut butter a day wards off sugar cravings for me

Yeah probably because you just ingested the caloric equivalent of 30 sugar cubes.

Give me some sort of motivational energy bros. Ive been fasting before my workouts and started adding cardio to my weightlifting. It kills me to run a little bit over a kilometer in 5 minutes solid.

>>42753179
Assuming "at around maintenance" means "at maintenance" than yes of course.

If it means "I think I'm close to maintenance but I'm eating out and not paying attention" then maybe not.

But it's certainly easier to be consistent every day, with one cheat meal on the weekend if you need it.

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>>42752767
Kasha with veggies.

>>42753264
It's either a little under or a little over, depending on the day, but yeah. I keep autistic track over everything I eat so I stop myself before I even get near something like 500 calories over. Most restaurants have nutritional information posted online so it's not like eating out hinders my progress much.

I'm just concerned that my body might be getting used to my diet and somehow using up less fat than it should be.

Fucking work has these free peanuts and I CAN'T STOP EATING THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>42753179
>>42753311
Dude if you're losing at a rate of 7500 calories a week, 30,000 a month, then you're right on track. A pound of fat is approximately 3,500 calories, so that's about 8.5 pounds a month. You probably just lost a bit of extra water weight for the first month. Trust me, as long as you keep it up by the third month you'll lose the same amount, and consistently lose that amount for each future month.

>>42753367
>I'm mad at myself

Then cut out the behavior you don't like you weak willed fatty

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I just had a nightmare about being a fat loser virgin who could barely talk to girls and got fucked over constantly, then waking up I found out it still wasnt over. Anyone else have their subconcious tell them to get their shit together before?

>>42753407
I'm pretty anti-social person but my dreams involve being around other people like literally i've never had a dream where i'm alone. I have no idea what it means. Ironically, i've never had sexual dream

>>42753375
Whoa, that actually makes me kind of excited. I will definitely stick to my diet then, not that I was considering that before or anything, but damn. I feel like I've got a real obligation to see this through now, a goal that actually feels within my reach. Thanks man.

>tfw visceral fat

do I have to commit to heavy cardio to remove it, or does it go away with deficit as well?

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>>42750603

C25K. Took me from not being able to run for a minute to a marathon (pick related) a few years back.

Lost another 2kg in the last two weeks- and managed to swim a block of front crawl for 20 minutes this morning, and finally managed to break my 30 minute 5k wall again yesterday (ran it in 24 minutes at my peak, so getting under 30 again is almost a relief) - feels pretty blooming awesome!

>>42753407
I had a dream I was skinny once. It felt so liberating, like I finally belonged in the world, like this place was finally made for people my own size instead of some creature that's smaller than me. When I woke up I realized the cold, hard fact that I've never actually felt what that's like in my entire life.

That is why I find myself here, to make that dream a reality.

>>42753451
Last time I checked there is mostly a linear relationship between visceral fat and total body fat (also mediated by genetics), so insofar as people reach healthy bf% in the end, visceral fat will not typically be a concern. It will always go away to a good extent with weight loss, but there is some variation in the amount of visceral vs. subcutaneous depending on exercise and diet.

I saw a study last week on intrapericardial fat on 30% fat diet vs. 35% fat diet (added walnuts, funded by California Walnut Commission though), there was a small benefit on 35% fat, but I found the study design a bit weak with such a tiny difference in diet composition + conflict of interest. Total fat was reduced in both groups relative to their habitual maintenance diet
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28814394

This is just one example of course, there are many other studies. I do think that visceral fat disappears to normal level when people reach a healthy total body fat mass, but there are these studies showing a short-term benefit with higher-intensity cardio

>>42753477
I've been trying since may now, but two relapses have fucked me over (my birthday and then vacation a month after), the dream only strengthened my resolve though

>>42753454
great job, dude!

Morning, /fat/. Another day of dieting begins.

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>>42753733

Ta!

Starting to feel like I'm finally getting somewhere with running. It was downright depressing going from running 60 miles a week three years ago to struggling to run for ten minutes.

was thinking about having my cheat meal at a brunch this week, so that I then can go and work out afterwards

>>42749659
>People that cut without lifting inevitably look like skeletons that have been dipped in molten ballistics gel
That's because cutting without lifting also cuts at your muscle. The point of lifting on a cut is to preserve muscle while burning fat. As I said he's not going to be making gains, it is physically impossible to build muscle while using less calories than you need.

>Suggesting to somebody to not lift while cutting should be a fucking bannable offense. It's that fucking stupid.
That's not what I said. I said there's no point to lifting on a deficit UNLESS cutting is his goal. If building mass is his goal then he's just going to be disappointed.

I snapped my shit twice in a small timeframe and I can't seem to remember why I started lifting in the first place, I think I need a break to figure things out.
Just wanted to vent a bit, I'm feeling pretty numb right now.

>>42753806
Why wouldn't you lift?

>>42753810
I keep getting injured even though my form is on point, I honestly don't know why this is. I get my form checked often
Its super demoralizing

>>42753827
How fat are you? Maybe you need to start lighter/smaller, and remember to stretch.

>>42753827
Have you tried lifting lighter weights?
Do you stretch beforehand?

>Its super demoralizing
If you're worried about that maybe you should try taking it easier before giving it up all-together, that way you give yourself a chance to make sure what you want to do without having to break a habit then remake it if you decide to continue lifting.

>>42753832
187 pounds @ 6'1, I doubt that's the problem

>>42753840
Do you know your bf%?

>>42753840
If your form is right and you remember to stretch and you're not clinically obese, then you need to go lighter and gradually work your way up to heavier weights. Not sure what a good progression is, but even being fat I'm only doing 100lbs. If your body starts buckling under the pressure and you can't even do a set of 5, you need to go lighter.

Also, make sure you're properly fueling your body for lifting. You can cardio fasted, but lifting heavy shit fasting sounds like a recipe for disaster. If you're still injuring yourself playing it safe and following all the right protocols then you need to see a doctor.

>>42753850
Sorry, no, but plenty of fat on me, why Im in the thread at all

>>42753907
Your actual lean mass might be surprisingly small. You should check it out with a doctor, or if not practical, try and approximate with calipers or measuring tape.

Starting a 10 day fast today
HOW TO GET PAST THE SECOND DAY ITS WHEN I'VE ALWAYS GIVEN UP

>been strictly dieting l, no exercise since March
>started at 230 lbs at 5'10"
>about to drop below 200

I am happy about myself, and my progress. Though it's definitely slowing down so I need to start working out.

>>42753563
>benefit with higher-intensity cardio

How intense are we talking? Things similar to HIIT?

Fuck, got my school schedule yesterday, i won't be able to work enough to afford both gym pass and brotein powder.
Gonna have to switch to calisthenics i guess.

>>42754038
Take up drug dealing on the side.

>>42753971
>I need to start working out.

Same, especially since classes, as well as the stresses that follow them, begin soon.

>>42754038
Could you get away with buying a shittier brand, or does it not agree with your stomach?

>>42753970
>10 day faster
For what purpose?

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>>42751034
>knockout body

>>42754083
Cut duh

Is eating low carb supposed to make me piss like a fucking race horse? I swear I'm pissing multiple times every 30 minutes when before I'd piss a max of like 8 times a day.

>>42754083
School starts in a month and they want to undo years of damage with a few days of crash dieting.

>>42754232
That's the beetus

>>42754247
That can't be right, because it's only been happening the last 3 days when eating under 40g of carbs

>>42754269
3 days of fasting don't undo years of being a slothful pig. You should get that checked out.

>>42754283
Alright I'll get some blood work done. I'm only overweight though, not obese. Guess it doesn't really matter.

I think I'm finally gonna make it /b/ros I found a diet that works for me fast through out the day only taking psyllium husk caplets and one 110 calorie protein shake for breakfast same for lunch gallon of water a day with an occasional diet coke then a 900 calorie dinner shits almost too easy I'm still at a 1k calorie deficit (actually a bit over 1k deficit) and like I feel happy with this diet.

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>>42753751
I just love these reminders from everyday fellow /fat/ posters that it does get better. you will get stronger and you will run faster. just put in the work in whatever and you will get there!

Week 3 baby! I am out of the 270's https://youtu.be/k8SarSUNtXw

>>42753971
Go for more walks dude (1hr min) and get yourself some cheapo dumbells and google for decent exercises - my nooby lifting sessions go on for just over an hour and I started doing them twice a week - I now do them every other day because as knackering as they are, I really enjoy them, have started to see results (6 months in) plus I feel 10x better. Good luck and well done!

I read a few days ago that potatoes are okay for you but today in Nutrition the professor said that they're bad for you. What the fuck is this shit? Why does every source tell you something different?

>>42754232
Yup, I'm on keto and drink 4-5 litres of water a day. Hence pissing on a regular basis. Ya get used to it. Supposed to be healthy anyway so don't worry about that side of it.

>>42754236
you need to think long term or you will likely get nowhere. Make weight loss easy, not hard for yourself. 10 day fasts are the hard way, if you have the iron willpower for it then fine, torture yourself to get thin a tiny bit faster if you want to. You'll always be hungry and your life will suck.

Losing weight is the easy part though because for most people, it's a short term 4-6 month journey. Keeping it off is hella hard.

Like it or not, you need to learn skills AT SOME POINT. The sooner the better, you need to commit to changing your diet in a very serious long term way. Learn to calorie count obsessively every day and adhere to your limit rigidly. If you learn how to portion your meals responsibly, you will lose weight and rarely feel hunger. You're going to walk into some school cafeteria that serves endless pizza and omelettes everyday, and you wont survive it unless you learn how to eat properly. Your classmates will load all kinds of shit on their plate and ask you why you don't eat more.

And you can't rely on motivation. Motivation is for the weak (want to be thin/want gf/want muscle/want to be healthy etc.). What you need is DISCIPLINE. Pure discipline.

>>42749388
My trigger was 250ug of acid and looking in a mirror... I am now down 45kg and am 13% bf.

>>42754702
>Motivation is for the weak. What you need is discipline

How do you not see the connection between motivation and discipline? I have discipline because I am motivated. I'm motivated to be disciplined to reach my goal. Those aren't stand alone concepts. If you are disciplined but not motivated, you'll may never start because why would you? You lack motivation to.

That said, you understand you aren't even responding to the same guy, right?

>>42754573
Nice to hear! Keep on going.

>>42754702
Just do intermittent fasting. I don't eat all day and then I have whatever I want for dinner and I'm losing weight just fine.

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I love /fat/. Really. Keeping this thread opened on a tab all day, and looking over and reading the posts really help keep me motivated on track. Thanks guys

>>42755041
Fat fucks you too, buddy

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This is my progress, 106 last Sunday actually. Should I start going to the gym now or wait till I am at a healthy weight? I know to get muscles you need diff diet so what do /fat/?

>>42755041
Keep going matey. Just remember to think about where you want to be, how nice it'll be to wear better clothes, feel stronger/lighter and ultimately look in the mirror and only hate yourself a little bit.

Oh and getting mires off random woman and being treated like an actual human by strangers is nice too.

>>42755086
You should have been lifting all along but no time like the present to start now. Good job on the weight loss. Keep going but lift now.

>>42755104
Ok thanks. I always thought I had to be in a healthy weight range before starting, desu. is there any beginners guide? I found rippetoe guide on a bodybuilding forums, is that recommended? When it comes to the gym there is so many conflicting advices it's confusing af

>>42754692
If you read everything then everything is both good and bad for you. There's so much information out there.
Ask yourself what you need in your current situation. Are you trying to lose weight by eating well below maintenance, then potatoes are probably not the best food.
Are you extremely poor and just trying to get something to eat, then by all means eat potatoes while keeping under maintenance.

If you like potatoes, you can substitute with sweet potatoes for more protein.

>>42755132
What I did was just start and fuck around doing whatever, after I got used to going I got into a program(SS). I figured there was no sense becoming overwhelmed by all the different terms, exercises etc before I even began just picking up heavy shit.

>>42751844
Why are you trying to get under 150lb? I was 5'8, 185lb and my end goal is 155lb because that's where I calculated 10% bf to be, which is a pretty good stopping point and the best bf% to build muscle.

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Been doing really good. Lost approx 15 pounds in just a few weeks. Decide to have cheat meal on labor day. Buy pizza. Figure I'd only eat a bit and save the rest for later.

I ate the whole damn thing in one sitting

Wtf is wrong with me

>had a sandwich
>no breakfast
>know bread has retard calories 500 bread and makes fucking vegetable sandwich 1000 kcal because everyone puts fucking mayo to boot
>tfw can't eat anything else today
>tfw still starving
Life is suffering. Gonna have another caffeine pill.

>>42748087
>
Always lift, whether bulking or cutting.

Cut without lifting and you will get weaker, moving the goalposts of your desired body further and further towards Auschwitz. Lifting allows you to hold gained muscle static while you "cut" to it.

Bulk without lifting and you get what many ITT have - a shitty fat body with no actual strength to go with it.

Lifting (or minimal resistance training of any kind) will always be a necessary component of having a healthy, good looking body. Never remove it completely from your routing.

Good luck you fat shits. I'm rooting for everyone one of you bitch-tittied monstrosities.

>>42755823
>/fat/ - for people who want a good body
ha

>>42755840
A distant dream.

I know weight loss is the primary focus for most, but it's great to also create a healthy functioning body at the same time.

>>42755868
and learn calculus
and paint a house
and fuck it, be the chess grandmaster of the world
why not

>>42755894
That's the spirit!

>google says a choc chip cookie is 400 calories
WHAT THE FUCK

NEW BREAD
>>42756047

NEW BREAD
>>42756047

NEW BREAD
>>42756047

>tfw visiting my parents and my mom cooked dinner so I can't input it down to the gram on MFP

Think I can still somewhat estimate it and I guess I'll err on the side of more rather than less.
Also, that feel when I cook low cal food ten times more delicious than my mom's high cal stuff.

>>42755723
Only buy one maybe two slices. Never buy a whole pizza unless you have friends to have it with.

The simple fact is, pizza is for groups of people, and you dont have friends. Buy a slice, or a sandwich, those are for losers like you. Your cheat meals should be single serving since you have no self control once something is in front of you (theres a big difference between buying something and eating something)