Does this stuff actually boost test?

>>42730731
>>42730731
no, inject test into ass

>>42730731
it lowers cortisol. if you're anxious and/or overworked, you have high levels of cortisol which lower test. lowering cortisol can therefore increase lowered test. if you don't have high levels of cortisol, I doubt it will have any effect on test

>>42730731
Everything that actually works is illegal

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>>42730731
I have it is part of my stack, everymorning post shit.
>multi
>bioten (for hair health)
>Magnisium
>Zinc
>Ashwagandha
>Fish oil
>L-Arginine
and Yohimbine 20 min pre workout (fat burner)

Dude it's really hard to tell if any of this shit really works. I think it's more subtle.
But, my body looks great right now, my hair does look better. And I still have monster workouts after 9 years natty. I'm 32 now.

It can't hurt. Might as well make a stack and follow it for 3 months and see if you notice a different.

>taking the devil's herb

>>42731468
yohimbine work?

>>42731468
Arginine is bad for the hairline.

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>>42731481
yea, It makes me sweat a ton during cardio. It's not a miracle pill. But if you struggling to lose that bottom pouch of belly fat.
It seems to be helping, I also keep on a keto diet.

It's a combination of everything.

>>42731487
really, dropped. I only just added it to my stack no more than a couple weeks ago.

You are only as old as your hair line. Remember this

>>42731498

Yeah, a lot of supps good for hair decrease nitric oxide levels (zinc, magnesium, biotin, lysine) while arginine increases it. Nitrates in food (sausage, bacon, beets) are also bad for this reason.

If very concerned with hair-line consider something like finasteride maybe.

>>42731487
L Arginine is good for the hairline. Do some research

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>>42731563
fin is prescription. In my research I came to the conclusion that all men starting their early 20s should be using minox (rogain) as preventive measures and bioten.

Just make it part of your routine, it's cheap and only take a minute to apply.
I've gotten more into skin and teeth health. A pour cleaner and moisturizer every morning.
Floss, make those teeth white.

>>42731607
what
>>42731487
explain

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>>42731607
wow im convinced

>>42731623
>>42731630
http://www.aminoacid-studies.com/areas-of-use/hair.html
http://www.progressivehealth.com/l-arginine-hair-loss.htm

>>42731664
thankyou

>>42731664
>http://www.progressivehealth.com/l-arginine-hair-loss.htm
I read this,
It actually argues for both.
They say use it for hair loss and then say stop if you losing hair.
Pretty confusing actually

>>42731623
>fin is prescription
that sucks, never looked into beyond when researching about maybe crossing the line into fraud.

>>42731736
It probably cant hurt to jump on it.
But you got to get a script

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>>42731468
Should be using L-citruline instead or arginine.
And krill oil instead of fish oil.

>>42730731
part of my stack too

>multi
>zinc
>magnesium
>boron
>ashwagandha
>algae oil
>vit D3 + K2
>concentrace
>creatine

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Vit D3 - 1000iu
Vit E - 1000iu
Zinc - 50mg
Omega 3s
citrulline
beta-alanine

didn't do any of my own research, just bought a bunch of sups that people mentioned on /fit/

>>42732283
>didn't do any of my own research
???
Not enough D, toomuch E and zinc.

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>>42732316
looks like I should have done some research...

>>42730731
> falling for the supplement meme

Just eat healthy and stop putting chemicals in your body.

>>42732283
vitamin e is unnecessary and should include a copper supplement during meals with such amount of zinc.

>>42732349
Its not a chemical its natural you moron.
>>42732335
carlos wouldnt say that
>>42732364
>>42732364
id say instead just take half a zinc tab, i take 25mg once a day myself

>>42732375
I take 50mg of zinc due to acne and deficiency thanks to adhd.

Should i reduce the amount?

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>he's not supplementing boron for its proven increased free test and DHT

>>42732375
The fact you have low t is a pretty good indication of your cuckdom. Drop the fedora, shave the neckbeard and eat some meat.

You don't need $40 pills, Cucky McCuck

>>42732397
i was told 50mg a day by someone on fit, they also told me to take vitamin e.

>>42732375
carlos said a lot of things

>Magnesium
>Zinc
>B-complex
>Biotin
>Skin nails and hair
>Ecklonia cava
>Vit e
>Vit k2
>Vit d3 (only during the winter)
>Black Currant Oil
>Taurine
>BCAA

Get on my level fagets

I swallow about 20 pills a day

>>42732404
i already bought the pills, dave. I'm gonna take them now. Including the vitamin e. IDGAF anymore.

>>42732420
That's not you swallow.

>>42732437

Well, sometimes I swallow my own cum after fapping. It's supposed to help you raise test

>>42732414
I eat shittons of oats so i don't really need vitamin e supplement.

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>>42732420
>I swallow about 20 pills a day

>>42732420
>I swallow about 20 pills a day

this kills the liver

If i cut my vitamin e pills in half is that... cool?

so 500iu of Vitamin E. I don't want to just throw out the bottle. /fit/ told me to buy it.

>>42732459
>>42732469

I've been doing it for few years now, and I feel great.

Don't see why it would hurt my liver. It's just vitamins and minerals.

>>42730731
why the FUCK do indians always go to the gym in jeans and polos? they are always walking on the treadmill or gathering around the 5 lb weights

>>42732489
add some dbol

>>42732495
You talk about poo in loo Indians or woo woo woo woo woo Indians?

>>42731481
fuck yohimbine. that stuff makes you drop weight, makes you workout like you're high, intense dreams, and headaches.

>>42732495
they are called poos you fucking nazi white male bigot

>>42732495
it is their culture
>that pooboy who blasts bhangra on his open headphones

>>42731468
What brand(s) do you use?

>>42732510
poo in loos, they smell like shit on top of it
>>42732531
i just call them faggots, but to each their own

>>42732420
MONTHLY BUDGET
>Rent: $1200
>Food: $600
>Car: $400
>Phone / Internet / etc: $100
>Supplements: $5000

>>42732397
>deficiency thanks to adhd

is that because of the addy or something that comes with having adhd?

I've been taking..
Magnesium
B-Complex
st johns wart

anything else you take specifically for adhd?

>>42732970
5grams vitamin k

>>42730731
Only one study said that it did, so the proofs for this thing are fairly low. Most likely its a scam by lefties, like their love for advocado's so that more money is sent to niggers and nigger things.

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>>42732397
>>42732414
https://examine.com/supplements/zinc/
>Zinc has two standard dosages. The low dosage is 5-10mg, while the high dosage is 25-45mg. The low dose works well as a daily preventative, while the high dosage should be taken by anyone at risk for a zinc deficiency.
>>42732404
I have no idea what any of this means
>>42732488
https://examine.com/supplements/vitamin-e/
>In regards to an upper limit, while doses above 400IU α-tocopherol (268mg) are well tolerated in the short term it is the smallest dose associated with potential long-term adverse effects. If taking vitamin E as a daily supplement for no specific purpose (ie. as part of a multivitamin) then 150mg could be seen as a prudent upper limit.
>>42732959
Stop posting. When you buy supplements in bulk they are dirt fucking cheap.

>>42733053
That's a lot on top of what you eat through out the day. How did you come up with that?

>>42732375
>Its not a chemical its natural you moron.
lel.

>>42731756
>can't hurt
Only cuts DHT, the most potent androgen in the body, back by 70%. Has effects on many bodily functions and the brain.

It's worth it if you have a shit head shape, but you should definitely consider the risks.

>>42731464
this, surprising so many people are actually this retarded

>>42731468
>vitamin D
>zinc
>DHEA
>Maca root
>biotin
>collagen
>damiana
>garlic oil
>slippery elm
>taurine

Also drink a taplespoon of ACV every day. I know it's a lot, but I don't always take every one.

>>42731464
>>42734614
100% untrue.
Lots of supplements have benefits aside from increasing test.

>>42731891
>>42732420

Magnesium supps made me nearly shit my pants. How do you guys handle it?

>>42730731
I've been taking this along with Maca Root and rhodiola. I don't know what happened but it fucked me up pretty bad and gave me insomnia/rapid heart beats/shakyness . i went about 3 days without sleeping and was feeling like total shit. I noticed taking all 3 of these supplements made my anxiety go away though and i started losing some fat/ feeling stronger so im just going to take it here and there instead of everyday from now on.

>>42734870
You probably took a shitty version. mag supps come in like 6 different forms. Get mag citrate. Its the best absorption and on stomach.

>>42731447
What if I never stress? Will it do nothing?

I haven't stressed about anything since middle school, so I don't know if It can do anything for me

>>42731468
post body. I wanna see what 9 years of working out at 32 looks like

Please

>>42734876
Oh yeah, i've also been eating a lot now. I never feel satisfied and just have insane cravings for carbs and peanut butter.

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What am I in for lads?

>>42735074
i've been taking the powdered form of this stuff and really feel no differences, But when you take this with coffee it gives you amazing focus and clarity. i would highly recommend taking it with coffee.

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>>42735050

>>42730731
Use lgd, 5mg no pct

>>42732283
>taking vitamin d without k2
>just 1000iu
Bump that up to at least 10-20k iu, and buy some super-dosed k2

>>42734870
You must eat it with a highfat meal, i eat a few tbsp of peanutbutter and dont get the shits

>>42735100
How strong? You look great dude, people on here will assume you're on steroids

>>42732449
cum contains estrogen. lel

>>42735100
N I C E

>>42735198
Im strong but not power lifter roud strong. Rep 225, squat 2pl dead 3pl ohp 1plate+ can curl 65s... weighted dips with 2.5 plates, do dumbbell press with 115, 100 incline

I got my body from reps and supersets. Everything high intensity, very little rest time.. i never do anything stupid like go to heavy, never had an injury.. every 3 months or so change up my workouts.
I'm still breaking prs after all these years.

>>42735271
>I'm still breaking prs after all these years
thats easy when youre weak as a 1 year lifter.
You only look good cause youve been consistent for 9 years. Your shitty training method is not why. You def look good but fix your perspective.
> Rep 225, squat 2pl dead 3pl ohp 1plate+
Ya so did I after 1 year. Im 8 years ahead of you.

>>42735441
Whatever, we all have different goal. I rep the nfl combine weight. Those are world class athletes.

No way u got there in a year natty, it's like people come here and lie. And u wonder, what do they have to gain?

>>42735468
>Those are world class athletes
yes and they do it for 20+. Dont play coy and say "rep". 2 reps doesnt mean shit.
>No way u got there in a year natty
Buddy its pretty sad if you actually think that. Maybe you were a skelly before you started lifting but I wasnt. I hit 225 bench for 1 at 8months. OhP,DL than squat followed for singles a few months after.

>>42735521
I rep 12

>>42735096
How does your taste like? Did it get sort of bitter overtime?

>>42735529
Congrats. Thats a little more than 1 rep per year.

>>42735521
Post a pic of u shirt off

>>42735538
I already said he looks better than I do, which is due to him lifting for 9 years which is what I said. Looking good as a natty has to do with length of time lifting. Ill re-post in 7 years.

>>42735562
Surrrreeeeeee

>>42735593
>Surrrreeeeeee
Sure what? No one looks good natty quickly. it take large amounts of time. Anytime ive seen a good body on here they always have been lifting 4-5years+. Its a sad truth.

>>42735611
U should loom decent right since 1/2/3/4 is a common benchmark. Post a pic

>>42735100

This is gonna sound douchey no matter how I put it but how can you be that lean but still have a fat blob around your belly button/lower abs?

>>42735733
idk, that's why i got in yohimbine. that is legit the last 5-10 pounds i need to lose to be practically perfect ya know.
I'm working on it. If i figure it out, ill let ya know

>>42735786
What yohimbine do you buy?
Powdered is far cheaper but is a little dangerous due to the small dosing.

>>42735635
>1/2/3/4 is a common benchmark
Ya for no longer being dyel. Its not much at all.

>>42735975
Whatever was rated highest on amazon

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>>42735521
where is ur pic at ? You Natty stud freak of nature

>>42736475
>you Natty stud freak of nature
1234 is a freak of nature?
Like I said see you in 7 years.

I've been taking some daily for about 2 to 3 weeks now. Haven't noticed any difference.

>>42735562
Ok will remember 7 years from now u will have a body decent enough to show on fit. U prolly benching 600 pounds by then

>>42737124
>600 pounds by then
almost no chance

>>42737170
I mean u hit 1/2/3/4 in 6 months. At that r8 u r the chosen one. Do u rep that weight or 1 and done

>>42737179
I never said that at all. I said I hit 225 bench for 1 at 8 months. reading is tough I know. I do rep it now at nearly 3 years. Again, if you played sports growing up and were active its not impressive at all. Most of you people struggling must be insane skellys.

>>42737204
3 years and still embarrassed to show a pic on fit

>>42737244
yep Im "embarrassed" some random anon will judge me

>>42737179
Noob gains are called noob gains for a reason anon. It's easy to get to 1/2/3/4 but going past that has been a struggle for me.

So I'm about to buy some supplements, already have a few. Since most of what I am going to have provides far more than dv(like zinc, which has 2x dv), I am going to be splitting some of the pills.

How is this for babby's first stack:
Sunday:1/2 b12
Monday:1/2 zinc
Tuesday:magnesium, Ashwagandha
Wednesday:1/2 b12
Thursday:Magnesium
Friday:1/2 zinc,
Saturday:magnesium

I'll take L-theanine and Ashwagandha basically whenever I think I will need it. I'm considering Vitamin D as well, since I tend to not get much sun or drink milk.

>>42732420
Get a "Multivitamin" you autistic jew nigger

>>42737366
wtf does this mean?
1/2 a pill?
Nigger we need to see mg. Plus a lot of that is water soluble so you need it daily. Just do some research and buy appropriate mg pills.

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>>42737316
>wheres the pic anon

>>42737534
7 years away

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>>42737550
NOW

>>42737508
As I said, some of the pills contain way over the daily value. the zinc pills I'm about to buy contain 2x daily value, so it makes sense to split the pill and take part at one time and the rest at another. Not entirely set on the times, I basically made up the schedule as I made the post

>>42730731
Just like with most supplements, it works "fractional". Dont expect high benefits from that shit

>>42737732
Daily values are mostly useless. Its better to go off of upper limits. Some daily values are insanely low and they are airing on the safe side but are far from optimal. Again thats why you should post the actual dosage.

>>42730731

No idea if it actually boosts test, but I put 500mg powder in my bedtime tea every night and it sure makes me sleepy, and yes much more tired than just the tea alone.

>>42734870
use glycinate (top shit)
citrate also gives you shits

>>42735271
>I'm still breaking prs after all these years
>1/2/2/3
C'mon nigga, great body though.

>>42732516
>fuck this thing that works

>>42737179
>what is the law of diminishing returns

>>42731481
Yohimbine is dangerous srs people have heart attacks from that shit. Dosage used is low so it's easy to fuck up if it's not already in capsule form.

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How good is this ?

>>42735074
I have a caffeine tablet that has it in it, it works with caffeine well.

It's also in tea, the difference between tea and coffee is l-theanine

>>42736006
pic?

can confirm that when I take it regularly my T is through the roof. Consantly confident, calm and objective, more focussed and sexual health improved as well.

10/10 best supplement I ever tried as far as visible effects.

>>42740930
Goat multivitamin but expensive as heck

>>42741178
How much pills do you need to take for it to work?

>>42732970
It comes with the adhd. Had zinc deficiency since 12 years old (white marks all over my nails).

>>42740641
Well i rep that weight for atleast 8. So if i was doing one and done u could add between 25 - 50 pounds.
But i never max due to running solo

>>42740930

Very successful branding.

>>42741610
L-theanine is usually dosed the same amount as caffeine or twice the amount.
So one caffeine pill (usually 200 mg) should have 200-400 mg of L-theanine with it.
Make sure to buy the powdered form of it, by far cheaper.

>>42741685
>white marks all over my nails
Always have had that and I eat spinach daily and take zinc supplements too.

>>42735733
Natural fat storage is a bitch

>>42730731

Took it for a week until I realized it made me sweat uncontrollably and gave me crazy anxiety.

Turns out I had hyperthyroidism and the Ashwagandha made it even worse.

If it wasn't for that shit I might have never found out my anxiety/depression was due to my thyroid. They put me on fucking anti-depressants for years which did nothing, after a few weeks of taking my thyroid meds all my issues instantly disappeared.

>>42744574
Weird since when i started taking a zinc supplement the marks disappeared after a few months.

>>42734700
A taplespoon? Is that that like 9000?

>>42744594
What thyroid meds do you take?
Have you considered lithium orotate?

>>42735533

Not him but mine tastes more or less like piss taste hasnt changed even though bag is a year old.

>>42744965

I'm taking thiamazole

I was under the impression lithium was just a meme medication. What've you been using it for and have you had any success?

>>42744563
Shit sorry I meant the supp in op's picture. I bought a bottle but i feel nothing

>>42745115
Me too. It got shilled in a thread about 4 weeks ago. No effects whatsoever

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Niagen
Coq10
Pqq
Lecithin
Krill oil

>>42744965
how much lithium orate, how often and how long till you notice a difference. If it works for you?

>>42745103
I've just started using it, to see if it helps with my depression and my hypothyroidism.
Started at 1mg elemental, but I'm gonna up my dose to 5mg.
I've also recently started taking T4 and a bunch of other supplements, so I can't say if the lithium makes a difference.

Lithium-carbonate is used to treat bipolar disorders, and it works. It also fucks up your body because it requires huge dosages, so it's shit.
Lithium-orotate is available over-the-counter, and there are many anecdotes of people successfully using it to treat bipolar and unipolar depression.
There aren't many studies on it.

Because lithium-orotate can be used in very small dosages, it's relatively safe.
Thyroid issues and depression are often related, and lithium can help with that.

I don't know if it will help you, but it's worth looking into.

>>42745737
See first paragraph above.
Usual starting dosage is 5mg elemental.
Just websearch lithium orotate if you wanna read experiences of people who've used it for longer.

>>42745771
cool, good to know. I'm bipolar and I can't deal with the swings anymore. I'm old to keep on bouncing back. I need balance, but I dont want to go to a doctor and get diagnosed. I just don't want that on paper.

I'm gonna give this a shot. Ive read about it also, but never fully committed for whatever reason.

So, its worth a shot

>>42745967
I hope it works for you.
My sister is mildy bipolar, and I've convinced her to start taking it too.
Too soon to tell if it works, but I really hope so.
She wasn't an easy teenage girl to be the brother of.

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>>42735271
>9 years of lifting for numbers most people can get in 9 months

>>42746839
Whatever i wished i looked like that

>>42745115
>>42745224
Have you tried it paired with stims?