Do you lift to learn The Way Of Men?

>>42694558
I lift for sloots

>>42694576


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>>42694558

that dude is a fag, look it up

>honor tattoo
>literally takes dicks up the pooper
really makes you think

>>42694558
>can't even spell honour
Trash

>>42694558
If you don't pay attention the HONOR-tattoo looks like a HONDA-tattoo.

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>>42694558
You mean The Whey Of Men?

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Donovan is gay. Um, sorry, an "androphile". But he gets it. Violence is Golden and The Way Of Men are worth reading, if you don't mind a certain amount of overwrought histrionics.

>>42694558

No

T. Bonobo

>>42696761
Jesus, what an edgy faggot

>>42696947

>refuse to pay your taxes
>the state can and will ultimately resort to violence to punish you if all else fails

The threat of violence actually is the final measure in trying to control someone else.

>>42694558
I hate this fake masculinity
>"HONOR" plastered across his abdomen instead of actually being honorable
>loads of ugly tattoos

It's sad really, in the past masculinity was all about your actions and values, not this gay shit

>>42696986
Yes but that's an implicit fact. This guy doesn't have a deep understanding of masculinity at all seeing as he feels the need to literally spell these things out on his body. He has to frame everything in the "viking battle axe kill or be killed" insecure edgy kind of way. His whole image is so superficial and manufactured.

>>42697192
Betacuck feminist nu-male detected.

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>>42694626
>>42694646
>>42696947
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>>42697192
Really makes you think.

>>42698564
Straight porn industry is litterally all just bi to full on gay men and women having terrible sex that sometimes ends up feeling good because of the cocaine and sheer mechanical action of it.

>>42694626
Probably.
Hyper masculine types who are over conserned with masculine identity to the point of demonizing the percieved opposite tend to be that way.
The more they are into something the greater the chance they love it so much that they want to fuck it or someone who holds those views.

Same can be said of the feminists and anyone who holds very very strong views on an opinion on something.

It's okay to watch and listen to those people if they're entire being is about that subject that you are interested in just to learn where you stand....just so long as you don't completely fall into their way of thinking and loser site of who you are and where you stand as a person.

His entire "ideology" is one massive coping mechanism for being a faggot. I can't believe he talks about the biological "purpose" of men while completely ignoring the most basic biological drive for all time which is to procreate, something he doesn't do.

>>42694626
Yeah looking up the name of a nameless random dude on the internet. K.... I'll get right on that.

>>42698833
poast physique phaggot

>>42696761
This. I liked his books desu, but in that teenager reading Fight Club for the first time kind of way. Also, he tries too hard sometimes with all the pew pews and friendly fist fights.

But he's friends with Chris Duffin, so he's got that going for him

Unironically influenced me a bit to start lifting.

>>42694652
>cant even spell hodor

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>>42699287
>>cant even spell hodor

You win an internet :-)

>>42698833
He's talking about Jack being gay, not OP being gay.

Jack wrote a book called "Androphilia" about masculinity in gay culture. He wrote the book under the name Jack Malabranche and changed his name later. The Way of Men, A Sky Without Eagles, and Becoming a Barbarian have no discussion of his being gay himself.

The books are fairly interesting, and that quotation from Violence is Golden (an essay) isn't very representative of his longer form writing. (I did like a Sky Without Eagles a lot and I'd recommend it. It's a collection of essays.)

Though I like Jack I haven't really been a big fan of his sort of withdrawing (or at least declining) to support or really discuss the emergence of the alt-right recently, though A Sky Without Eagles talks about his associations with Richard Spencer and people like that. Recently Jack has had disagreements with Latbrah regarding the defense of western culture, etc. I like Jack a lot but it mostly seems like he's just busy being a faggot out in the woods now.

>>42694558
lol, Jack Donovan is a homo. We have a bog ready for him on the DotR.

>>42698564
He's literally a homosexual though, openly.

>>42699287
>le Game of Thrones meme xD my favorite feminist TV show xDD

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>>42699566
>sort of withdrawing
Nah, he's completely withdrawn from any kind of politics. I can't entirely blame him given the state of the average white person in the current year.

http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2017/05/why-i-am-not-a-white-nationalist/

>>42699614
>homo abomination
>anti nationalism
So he's a leftist in every sense of the word that matters. He's the opposite of what a MAN is.

>>42699566
>seems like he's just busy being a faggot out in the woods now.
haha yep

>>42699680
Eh not really. Read the essay "A Sky Wothout Eagles" or "All They Have Is Fear."

>>42699680

Didn't he give a talk at the National Policy Institute which is where the alt-right comes from?

Seems like a radical white dude doing weird shit in the woods.

>>42699927
Yeah that talk was A Sky Without Eagles. He's definitely no Richard Spencer though but the two of them know each other I'm pretty sure.

>Jack writes about how gay men are generally dishonorable men who behave like children.
>Find out Jack's gay.
This made me sad when I found out.

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>>42699614
I'm /pol/ and I can't even blame the the guy. White nationalism is a nice idea but people are shit in general and it's better to just find your own peers.

>>42699974

Keyword "generally".
Even then precisely how many gay men to make a broad assessment of the entire population? Sure media makes a show of the sjw clowns, but that's inevitable. Empty barrels make the most noise. Any man who happens to live a fairly quiet but honorable life won't catch that attention.

>>42699927
You do know that Alt Right is controlled opposition? Every leader in the so called Alt Right movement is tolerant of Jews, homos, trannies, everything that stands against traditionalism.
>Seems like a radical white dude doing weird shit in the woods.
Yeah if by weird shit you mean taking it in the ass and by radical you mean having 30 man orgies. This isn't a joke, he and his "wolf pack" or whatever lame shit he called them do this kind of stuff, he openly talks about it.

Way of Men, while at times a bit remedial, provides excellent insight into the concept of tribalism and the roles within it. Regardless of his sexual preferences, Donovan makes strong points about the importance of supporting a community of like minded individuals who have banded together in pursuit of common goals. The concepts from his book are easily applicable to modern life and the loss of this cohesion between males today.

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>>42700071
>he openly talks about backwoods orgies
Gonna need a source on that.

>>42699974
he talks about flamboyant behaviour

develop some reading comprehension

Reading the way of men right now and I don't really get the point yet...

>>42700071

They had a pretty good "jews will not replace us chant" going on in Charlottesville organized by altright leaders with altright speakers.

>>42694652
so how do you pronounce 'gh' in neiborhood

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>>42700165
Being a "good man" is entirely relative and often used as a form of control by modern society. Focus on being good at being a man and finding a peer-group that shares your values.

>>42694626
Who gives a shit? Mirin' hard.

>>42700207
<3

>>42700207
Damn.
Preach.

>>42700207
good points, even for a homo

baiting aside, there are gays who are better men than some straito dudes. I hope u can realize that.

>>42700207
Thats the most retarded thing I've heard

>>42700388

I'd take hanging out with gays like him over a group of straight numales any day desu

>>42700423
same

One of my friends is gay, but masculine in the relationship. Solid dude. His bf tho...

>>42700414
That's because you aren't a man.

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>>42699614
>I'm not a white nationalist
>Wears clothing with "Operation werewolf" on i
>An organization that takes it name and symbol from a Nat-soc planned armed recistance after the allies won world war 2

He's basically too much of a bitch to admit what he believes in.

Donovan, stop posting.
You can write about warrior culture and manliness all you like, and get as many prison tats and manly words on your body as you like, but at a base level you are not a manly man. You've never fought for anything. You've never been a soldier to a cause or government. You've never raised children or held real responsibility or authority. And, you do not know the love of women or the desire to procreate.
You write books about high minded ideals of manliness in order to fund your gay orgies in the woods. You're an armchair philosopher and a hypocrite.

>>42700135
Look it up, read some of his stuff. He's flat out said he and the "wolf pack" fuck each other in the woods.
>>42700169
Still, almost everyone in the movement is a subversive or a retard. They don't represent actual Nationalists. Like 99% of nationalists refuse to associate with the Alt Kike out of how moderate and anti-nationalist they can be.
Examples: Dick Spencer, Milo, Gavin McInnes.
Some big names in the Alt Light, all of them very opposed to ethnic nationalism and very tolerant of sexual deviancy, multiculturalism and Jews.

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>>42700677
>read some of his stuff
Read what, nigger? I've read his book, I've read articles on his site, I've read articles on site's he's written for. Give me a goddamn source or fuck off.

>>42700742
If you've read his stuff then how the fuck do you not know about his homosexuality and the homosexual nature of his "tribe"? Wtf man, he talks about that shit all the time.
Look it up yourself.

>>42700932
Anon confirmed for full of shit. I've also read pretty much all of Donovan's writings, including his "I basically fuck men like they're women" post over on the Roosh forums, and at no point does he ever say anything about gay orgies with the Wolves.

>>42700932
>it's real in my mind
You should seek help regarding these homoerotic fantasies.

>>42700976
>>42701033
>anon hasn't saved a specific piece of information he saw years ago
>that means he's full of shit
I don't care what you believe. I know for a fact I've seen him say his tribe has homo orgies. Look it up or don't, not my problem.

>>42701104
Here they are grabbing female strippers:
https://instagram.com/p/BYaM0lUhYyF/

Confirmed straight.

>>42701104
>years ago
We hasn't been affiliated with the Wolves of Vinland for that long.

no, i lift so that others can learn the way of men from me.

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>>42701152
>Confirmed straight.

>>42696778
kek

>>42694558
Nah, I just lift to fuck men.

>>42702005
>has to reply to every comment to make sure they know they were wrong no matter how tiny or insignificant the detail was

What
a
fag

>>42700190
I think you mean the 'gh' in neibourhood

It was a good read.
It really helped me get my bearings straight on role of men in todays society.
The distinction between being a good man and being good at being a man is golden.
t. porn addicted beta male

>>42702177

and he ends each comment with a "so....." and "but whatever" like a teenage girl

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>>42694558
>tattoos
>masculist faggotry
>muh gangs
>muh violence

A true nigger. Kys OP.

>>42694558
He seems like a cool fag.
Wish my nephew could meet a guy like him.

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>>42702981
>Pfffft these unrefined brutes. A real man is a gentleman.

>>42702930
His books read great (I cruised right through 3 of them), but whenever he comments online he seems a bit obnoxious.

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>>42700503
What is with you fagots creaming your nickers for fagots "who have the smarts".
It is almost like your lust for the other fagot Henry "choke me daddy Danzing" Rollins.
He being a manly fagot is a text book case of coping mechanism.


>>42698775
>>42700603
yes

>>42694558
I LIFT FOR SPORTS YOU ARE ALL GAY

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>>42703510
>Henry "choke me daddy Danzing" Rollins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt6PWuvlNhM

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>>42703516
>sports aren't homo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1tzr0n_Usk

>>42703458

I did enjoy The Way of Men. Might check out the others. Only just now learning he is gay, I am a little surprised.

>>42703536
Saw Rollins do stand up a couple of weeks at a music festival. Dude's a cuck. He's also a try-hard with all his "hurr Durr I read books so I'm better than everyone" schtick. He's like if you took a typical redditor and mixed them with your average /lit faggot.

>>42698701
>Hyper masculine types who are over conserned with masculine identity to the point of demonizing the percieved opposite tend to be that way.
I don't know who the guy in OP is, but I resent this jewish pseudoscience you just posted.

>>42703658
>The more they are into something the greater the chance they love it so much that they want to fuck it or someone who holds those views.
>Same can be said of the feminists and anyone who holds very very strong views on an opinion on something.

You seem to have missed the rest of the post.
You also seem to be stupid and don't have a view of history.

>>42703693
I have very very strong views on everything. Pretty sure I do not secretly want the opposite.

>You also seem to be stupid and don't have a view of history.
Why? Because I don't believe that any of this secret-homo psychology applies to me in the least?

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The OG gay manly guy was Yukio Mishima.
>bodybuilder
>model
>actor
>playwriter
>bestselling author
>poet
>film director
>right wing extremist
>soldier (kind of)
>had a wife and children even though he took it in the ass

>>42703727
>Pretty sure I do not secretly want the opposite
can you read? he never implied that at all.

>>42698775
this

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>>42705520
>when his parents were arranging his marriage he insisted that his wife must be shorter than him
>Mishima was 5'1

>>42705520
mishima is the proof that there is a correlation between repressed homosexuality and right wing views

>>42705585
Yeah but that's like 6'5" in Nip height.

>>42696947
It's not edgy. It's fact.
End of the day, the only reason anyone listens to the govt is because they have a monopoly on violence. No one can beat them at it, in places where that isn't true, you have disorder and societal breakdown.

>>42705734
it's only half of the equation, the other half is the social contract. you need both perspectives and having half the answer is often worse than having none of it.

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>>42694558
HAte this mother fuck. Killing our movement. Also looks like a ftm and his body is garbage. Shit tier insertions and not core/chest.

>>42705823
>our movement
He isn't part of it though
>his body is garbage
poast physique phaggot

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>>42694646
He's a top. Almost worse isn't it? If you're a butch queer who wants to fuck men your brain is FUVKED

>>42705643
It aint repressed if he engaged in homosexual sex (which he did according to some).
>>42705585
I feel his pain as a fellow manlet.

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>>42694558
Some of this book seemed really repetitive, but I got to this part and it really hit me hard.

>>42705734
I always figured that the essay was just a response to those "violence is never the answer" types. In that context I kind of like it.

>>42697192
Read the book instead of making superficial surface-level reactionary judgements.

Holy fuck /fit/ is completely brain-dead.

>>42705823
>his body is garbage
His physique is alright I guess, not sure if it reflects his actual lifting capability though. (I think OP's pic is old because he looks bigger than that now.) I mean the dude can do like 225lbs bench for 25 reps or some shit, so I don't think he's anywhere close to being unfit, plus he's like 42 or some shit.

>>42706053
After having read his books I'm really disappointed in his reluctance or lack of willingness to help with the movement. Idk wtf his problem is. Here's part of his recent Instagram conversation with The Golden One (TGO) below:

>In response to a post by Jack about politics being mostly about self-aggrandizement.

>TGO: "Politics is just one other arena to bring the fight to. To not participate in the political struggle is just as bad as not participating in the cultural struggle. The metaphysical war must be fought on all fronts."

>Jack: "What struggle? Whose struggle? Who are we fighting? Would they give a shit about us if "we" won? There is no political struggle in America. Just people participating in staged "protests" while people who pay the politicians argue over the details of what is going to actually happen."

>TGO: "Your views are highly blasphemous. The titanic Struggle we are in is for the West."

>Jack: "I'm not in it. The European situation is different but in North America the people "fighting the struggle" are not people who I want to be associated with, and most of them hate me, so I am absolutely not on their team. Most of them would throw me under the bus for a cheeseburger. White Nationalists in America are not the same as Identitarians in Europe. White Nationalism in America is a masturbatory neo-Nazi fantasy [...] The people engaged in "the struggle" in the United States who participate in demonstrations and so forth, are not people I would want in charge of my life or my friends' lives."

>>42706135
His books are interesting but not exceptionally deep, so there's no reason for us to strain ourselves too much mentally analyzing them. You could probably arrive at most of his conclusions by reading only Nietzsche (who Jack's a huge fan of, by the way, so no coincidence there).

>>42706135
All of the popular boards are.

>>42706136
Yeah, that's pretty fucking annoying. TGO is a bit of a brainlet at times, but it seems like Donovan is just being a contrarian edge-lord there.
In the book, he admits how returning to this martial masculinity on a large societal scale is essentially impossible, so instead just anticipates that bonobo world will fall apart, being built upon the backs of men who gain nothing from it. But that's fucking stupid.

After Way of Men, what would be the best to read next?

>>42694558
i lift as an outlet for my beta rage

Jordan Peterson has a less cynical, more scientific view on this kind of stuff. One of his key points is 'how can you tell others how to live if your room isn't tidy'. Essentially; be the change you want to see in the world.
I don't agree with him 100% on everything despite him being much smarter than me but, there's no fight club-tier 'the world sucks' stuff with him.