/MAG/

wrong board you stupid ass faggot. fuck off.

>>>/asp/

reminder to NOT bump and REPORT these fucking idiots.

>>42681371
If i wanted to know what martial art /asp/ practices i would ask them,
>Implying marital arts isn't fitness related.

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>>42681493
>fitness related

>>42681544
As fitness related as powerlifting

> 6'7" 230 lbs
> Intermediate lifts (no squat tho)

Considering getting into martial arts to complement fitness, my coworker recommended Muay Thai. I am looking for something that teaches me some fighting skills as well as improves mobility, cardio, etc to go along with lifting.

Only thing I worry about is a torn adductor in my left hip prevents me from a lot of movements and results in debilitating pain. Any other recommendations based on that?

Also, is once per week training enough to get a general base on the skills?

>>42681371
>reminder to NOT bump
thats easily avoidable by saging, son

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>blue belt in bjj

>Amateur boxing experience

>>42681358
Kickboxing and judo.

>>42681371
I do martial arts for health and fitness, what is your fucking problem gymcel?

Am I training too much?
>Monday
Morning: 3 rounds of
Pushups, pullups, dips, goblet squats, ab wheel, kettlebell jerks and swings (I call it "crossfit workout")
Night: mma class
>Tuesday
night: grappling + kickboxing
>Wednesday
night: grappling + kickboxing + mma
>Thursday
night: grappling + kickboxing
>Friday
morning: "crossfit workout"
night: sparring
>Saturday
morning: grappling
Sunday: rest

each class or workout is ~1 hour

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Also, I'm training to be like Marat "Motivator" Balaev (picrelated)
>>42681772 anon

I do kickboxing and recently started sparring. My kicks are decent but I cannot into boxing, but my strategy of staying away and throwing lots of kicks with some shitty straights is working against other noobs while I gradually figure out infighting and hooks.

>>42681772
As long as you get enough sleep and food then you should be fine.
Try adding running into your routine.
Work up to about two 6 km runs a week and a sprint workout.

>>42681825
Try to establish a jab and then throw a cross after it.
You can also use your kicks to set up punches, it front kick-cross-hook.

Starting judo in about a week. Can only attend one class per week because of my university schedule conflicting timetables (until next semester at least) Will I be able to make decent progress or stuck as white belt for super long

Also any tips?

>>42681589
A torn hip is bad for learning to kickbox, but maybe doing the muay thai course will help you rehabilitate it.

>>42681825
You gotta learn to close the distance
Try to add in some punches to your kicks
Like start with body punches and do the high kick finisher

>>42681873
Cool, so far my only real kick to set up punch combo is inside leg kick, jab, cross, outside leg or body kick. I'll try cross hook. The only hooks I throw are the hook,jab combo against south paws.

>>42681889
Yeah distance-wise I either stay at range and pick apart people who are somehow worse at distance management than me, or eventually they close the distance and swarm me with punches (like the end of Cung Le vs Wanderlei Silva). I'll definitely have to mix in body punches, right now I just set up head kicks with other kicks.

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>>42681371
>Thread about eating Roaches? Cool
>Thread about Boog for the 200th time this week? Cool
>Thread about MMA? RRRREEEEEEEEEEE

>>42681882
You'll be stuck as a white belt for awhile, but you'll end up a very good white belt. Just keep on it and next semester arrange your classes so they don't conflict with Judo. You might also be able to find people (probably other noobs) in your school willing to practice with you outside of class.

>>42682001
http://forums.sherdog.com

Sherdog is pretty good for figuring out your opponents if you spar with them often. Just search up something like "how to counter the jab", etc.

If you have the time I would recommend yoga aswell.

>>42682214
Sounds good. I have pretty good instructors as well, I just need to put in the time!

I'd love to do yoga but haven't found a school that really fits in location and stretching wise (my martial arts gym has yoga once a week but it's during kickboxing). I just do 30 minutes of stretching 2-3x/week and 10 minutes of stretching 3-4x/week. Gotta maintain my ability to throw kicks.

>>42681873
Nigga who tf sets up punches with kicks, it's the other way around

BJJ cos sparring every lesson

>>42682046
There's also a 2hr kata class that I can attend, is that worth attending too?

>>42682750
Yes.

But I am in the minority with that opinion. You'll need to learn nage no kata if you ever want make shodan.

>>42681882
stretch your neck and tuck your fuckin head in. Whiplash is no joke

>>42682750
nope, unless you're really keen

>>42681358
Dutch kickboxing. I think I want to start doing something with grappling too so I could maybe later do MMA. Thinking of BJJ because I'm short for a Dutch person.

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>>42681358
Muay thai. I was rooting for Mayweather btw.

mfw the 10th round

>>42681371

kill yourself lol

>>42681358
Tae kwon do

>>42681358
>mcnuggest fags are casuals who are cancer to then mma community
>then there are people like my teacher who said he didn't even know who mcgregor was until the day of the fight and he goggled it

>>42681556

Fighters are far fitter than powerfatties. They actually do cardio for one.

>>42683061
It was a pretty nice knockout. McGregor really needs to address his fucking cardio, it's beyond embarrassing at this point.

>>42683187
>McGregor really needs to address his fucking cardio, it's beyond embarrassing at this point.
>at this point.

I was expecting nub reactions due to the popularity of this fight but some of you people are blatantly retarded.

>>42681589
>>42681882
Sorry anons, but you need to go at least two times a week if you want to improve unless you're very talented. If you just want fun fitness, once a week is fine, but if you want to learn to fight, it's too little.

>>42683187
jesus christ this is the most "I talk like I train but I don't" comment I've seen in ages

bjj.
wanting to take up a striking sport but lost between muay thai and boxing. which one would be better for a strength focused physique? im pretty explosive at 6'3 205 lbs and a wingspan of 6'6

>>42683344
Judo anon here

Can only do 1 reg judo class and 1 kata class (which is right after) until Decemberish when my first semester ends, then after that I can go 2 days a week. I'll just have a slow start I guess.

Would it be bennificial to see if I can join one of the coloured belt classes to get more hours in, or would it be too advanced and just be confusing / disruptive for the rest of the class

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>>42683432
Boxing would be better. pic is boxing heavyweight champion

>>42683621
mafucker is beastly

Just moved to HK, want to take up both BJJ and muay Thai while I'm here.

There's a ton of MMA gyms around that appear to mainly geared towards fitness. While fitness is a goal, I also want to learn to fight.

Whats your opinion on these gyms offering a range of different styles, are they good value, or would I be better going to specialist gyms for each style?

>>42683493
whitebelt class first, at least until you can get the basics down. No point training at a much higher skill level if you can't fall properly

Just started BJJ, it's pretty fun. I think it could be a good outlet for me (lifting doesn't do it), and it's also cardio without being cardio.
There's something satisfying about grappling with people, when you see it in videos it looks kinda silly, but when you do it it feels different.

>>42681371

kill yourself

>>42683693
Muthafucker is roided as fuck, slow punches for such leanness. Disgusting. Heavyweight boxing is for plebs after the greats (Ali and Tyson)

>>42683187
He doesn't do road work(running) because he believes it is bad for your knees.
Their is a reason that every single credible boxing coach recommends it as the best thing you can do outside of the gym,

>>42683493
>Kata class
That must suck
I have to do a kata for my blue, it is boring as shit, also my green belt kata was arse.
Just go the the colored class, unless you are training with non recreational judokas then they wont mid if you are learning,

>>42681772
What gym do u go to? The class routine's sound just like mine

>>42681589
jesus christ.
get corticosteroid injections for your hip and play basketball or someshit. fuck that

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can we talk about /rug/ here? it's almost wrestling

>>42684403
Yeah man.
What shit do you do to make your straining specific to rugby (lifts wise)

5'7 160lbs with a 5'4 wingspan, if I don't want to die in the off chance I get in a fight what should I learn? I am able to throw punches with mediocre form + power because I am a former fatty who spent all of my cardio time at a boxing gym, but I want to be able to defend myself because I don't like being helpless

>>42684480
>Does cardio at boxing gym
>Step one -Find martial arts gym
>Step two- ?????
>Step three-profit.

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>>42684462
>What shit do you do to make your straining specific to rugby (lifts wise)
I am a rookie, but right now I'm doing a lot of cleans (because I want to sprint faster and get more explosive power), as well as hip abduction/adduction (good girl bad girl machine and resistance bands) because it helps with your sidestepping/agility.

and a lot of neck training on off days, because a strong neck reduces the consequences and risk of concussion.

i'm surprised I don't see the martial artists in my gym doing more cleans and oly-esque stuff, is there a reason? I would have thought it would help for the explosive power behind strikes, increase pound for pound strength and what not

>>42681862
Running/jogging is catabolic and bad for your testo though. Sprints for cardio.

>>42683187
Lack of understanding of boxing was as big of a factor as pure cardio. He punched himself out in the early rounds. Classic rookie stuff.

>>42683432
thai is more complete imho, but you can try a few weeks of both and see what you like better

>>42684826
does the fist game in muay thai hold up against other forms of combat?

>>42684868
yes, they do
actually since they focus on elbows a lot you have a wider arsenal to use
it always depends on the teacher anyway, it's better to choose a great teacher even in an ma that isnt your favourite instead of your favourite ma with a sucker

>>42684887
absolute truth family.

i trust my bjj coach.
now to see wassup wit this MT/Boxing.

ultimate goal is mma proficiency of course

>>42682519
You can absolutely set up punches with kicks

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Suggestions for a martial art to take up that doesn't involve touching or being touched by people's feet?

>>42685860
Tae kwon do

How do I make my cross stronger

My coach says I need to be extending my hip and using my glutes more, like I'm throwing a baseball, but I can't fucking figure it out.

>>42685860
Boxing

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>>42681358
I'm trapped in dyel mode cause of fighting, If I try to bulk my weight class goes up and I can't fight in the lightweight bracket. Yea I'm not pro, I'm 4:2 but if I had to move up to another weight class I would be blown the fuck out every match. I'm 5'9 so light weight is perfect for me.

I practice Muay Thai, it's a lot of fucking fun, my six matches have been really pleasant and everyone is respectful. I sliced this dudes nose right open with an elbow and he praised me. I took a pivot kick directly to the face and man, there's something about getting your ass beat that makes you have long ways to go before your anything special and that's what I like about fighting.

>>42686041
Massive Bain damage when I wrote that didn't even make sense shit

>>42681358
MMA = Faggots rolling on the ground for 40 minutes

fuck off

>>42686134
it's no homo you nigger

>>42684331
>tfw you can be dumb and also filthy rich
Must be nice

Also
>Big brown on suicide watch

>>42684358
Put some time into kata and you'll find it does pay off. A really good teacher will point out the sort of little details that are often skipped in class - the kind that makes a difference overall.

>>42681358
5 years of BJJ
7 years of Judo
10 years of Aikido

Dabbled in other, would like to pick up some striking again, but no time as it is.

>>42686365
>5 years of BJJ
>7 years of Judo
>10 years of Aikido

>would still get knocked out in a street fight
lel

>>42686365
kata is boring and fucking useless

>>42686392
Did kickboxing for a year too, I only listed the ones I still actively train.

>>42686441
While I dislike the ceremonial bullshit, the study and depth that kata entails definitely helps you improve.

>>42686490
maybe so but still one of the slowest and less effective way of improving
more sparring is always better

>>42686512
Sparring all the time is going to result in too much wear and tear not to backfire at some point - been there, done that - which is when a bit of kata is an excellent way to get in some training.

>>42686134
Lol you couldn't even approach a striker let alone bring him to the ground phase you utter cuck.

>>42686554
>be a boxer
>street fight with ufc "striker"
>he can't do shit and needs to play tickle with you on the floor
lol, ok

>>42686532
you can do light sparring, like those karate little to no contact sparring to reduce the risk
always going hard is not a good idea that's true

>>42681371
fucking fightlet snitch

>>42685860
Post your feet.

>>42686567
>be boxer
>try to slip a punch in a street fight
>get kneed in the face for going low

>be boxer
>begin jab crossing on a striker in street fight
>get clinched no ref to save you

>be a boxer get in a street fight
>get teeped to the chin because your a boxer and never dealt with leg jabs before

>be a boxer get in a street fight
>don't know how to close the distance against someone constantly move backward and throwing kicks
>happen to catch one if your lucky
>end up in a clinch against
>ref can't save you

Gtfo

>>42686650
>be "striker"
>everyone watching you dance and run away like a fucking faggot.
>throws a stupid kick
>does some stupid meme spin backhand
>gets knocked out
kek

>>42686687
Dude your just wrong. A boxer does not have the mechanics to deal with the tools an mma fighter has, that's why the chucks beg them to fight in a boxing ring and not the octagon.

Boxing teaches you foot work and how to fight another boxer

Boxing is a sport and yes it will definitely help you kick ass on the street 90% of people can't throw a punch, but if you try fighting a guy with same amount of time under his belt as you but he does shit like Muay Thai, bjj your just fucked lad, I'm sorry

>>42686578
Only sparring means you'll come to lack technical skill eventually.

>>42686734
i mean sparring instead of kata
you shouldnt neglect training basic hits, combos and advanced tecniques at the bag or with a cooperative partner (meaning that he doesnt counterattack)

>>42686719
>but if you try fighting a guy with same amount of time under his belt as you but he does shit like Muay Thai, bjj your just fucked lad, I'm sorry
>Muay Thai
yea, no.
it's some meme shit for manlet asians. i've seen muay thai fighters get absolutely destroyed by amateur boxers.

>bjj
ok, but you're proving my point.
they can't win unless the play tickle me elmo on the floor with each other.
it's fucking gay and not respectable fighting.

the only people that think that shit is real fighting are other bjj faggots.

if i got into a street fight and some cuck starts trying to choke and kick, i;m just gonna grab a pipe and bash his face in.

>>42686785
>it's fucking gay and not respectable fighting.
how many times as a BJJ practitioner beat the shit out of you anon? 20? 30?

>>42686785
First of all your in a street fight, you don't respect that fucking guy because as a fighter I know your not going out to bar trying to beat some poor souls head in right anon? Because you and I know better than that. Secondly end the fight as fast as possible, how do you do that? Run or put them in a submission, of course you run the risk of his mates breaking your skull while on the ground.

Muay Thai is not meme shit, it's the staple of almost every big fighters deckl

>>42681358
BJJ. Shit is a great workout and probably the most practical one to learn. Learn a little wrestling (you probably will within bjj) and boxing to go along with it and you're set

>>42686852
how long do you "roll" with your butt buddies and still can't fight for shit?

>>42686904
idk dude, just seems like a joke.
>wanna be a great fighter?
>learn to roll on the ground and choke people out!
come on.

even muay thai is more respectable than that shit.
i respect bjj dudes that only take it to the floor against another motherfucker that can roll.
but if it's your sole fighting style, you're a chump. come to a street fight trying to choke and you're gonna get your head stomped in, like you said.

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>get into street fight with BJJ fag
>he immediately lays on the floor and pulls guard on me
>start stomping on his balls, face, chest

When will graciecels ever learn?

>>42686650
A wrestler or judoka is far more likely to do better against a boxer in the street that just another striking art. Seriously, if you think kicks are a good idea you've never even seen a street fight.

>>42687083
>i have never been leg kicked before: the post

Believe me, you gotta experience it to know how devastating it is.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EDjE4BywrE4

>>42687093
literally what the fuck is he doing.
he can't be a professional boxer.

the stupid faggot is keeping distance letting him get those kicks off.
the dude is a stick, close the distance and start going to work.
holy shit.

>>42687077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8q6vTijil0

>>42687077
>Not just fucking him

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>>42687093
Jesus, is that Denny?!

>>42681358
Kyokushin and self teaching boxing

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>>42686567

>>42687903
point being?

>>42687903
my muay thai trainer always said "never use this in a real fight, just swing"

>>42687933
>Boxer fights grappler
>Boxer makes the mistake of getting close for less than a second
>Boxer can barely fit a hat a his head due to his new hematoma

Thought it was self explanatory kind of forgot about all the head trauma boxers take.

>>42687997
>boxer
just because he imitates what he see's on youtube doesn't mean he's a boxer lol.
he's clearly not, because if he were the tall kid would have been knocked out with a straight to the face once his hands dropped.

>>42687943
Sounds like you got a shit trainer m8. Supplement your training with some grappling and groundworks and there should be no ground you can cover.

Or you know, just get a gun.

>>42688105
muay thai. its only kicking and punching. its not MMA

>>42688010
Yeah, cause all boxers have one punch knock out power? You sound silly.

Its pretty obvious that kid has some experience by his rhythm, movement, and how he threw his punches. Downplay it all you want but, he made a poor choice of throwing a hook to the body that put him into grabbing range instantly.

Also he did manage to land a hook to the nose that bloodied him. If you look at the floor the guy that slammed him is trailing blood out the door so, I'm not saying boxing is useless but in a fight with someone that can completely negate that by putting you on the ground its not going to go well.

>>42688123
That's why he said supplement. MMA is about mixing martial arts together.

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>>42688130
i dont like MMA. mixing boxing with wrestling is very dangerous. its still a sport, its not meant to deliver permanent damage. you can call me a pussy but id like to not end up as that russian boxer

>>42686134
>40 minutes
>title fights are five 5 minute rounds
math

>>42688148
MMA is just more applicable to reality. It's fine if you are just doing boxing as a sport.

>>42688209
the time's not really the issue, dick.

I think boxing is probably the most useful martial art for a street fight.
I'd say judo is a close second

>>42688229
Plenty MMA fights end up mainly standing.

>>42688278
>Boxing
Enjoy breaking your hand and getting taken to the ground.

Working as a bouncer, the best fighters I've seen were a wrestler (granted he was huge) and a muay thai fighter who was small but fucking scary to fight. Sadly I joined that nightclub after Chuck Lidell left, that would have been glorious.

>>42688314
>breaking your hand
on someone's face? i will.

>>42688314
Yep judo or wrestling are probably better.

I'd say a good college wrestler is the last person you'd want to fuck with a street fight.

>>42688314
>wrestling
boxer here.
drunkenly picked a fight with a kid on the wrestling team. all i remember is throwing a punch and then feeling my feet leave the floor lol. woke up a day and a half later in the hospital.
good times

what is the best option for wrestling that isn't high school wrestling? i want to try judo, but i don't think there is any place near me that teaches it. there is a BJJ school in my town, but i'm scared of memes + non-practical sport/technical "chess" learning.

>>42688334
The skull is much harder than a fist. Bareknuckle is a different beast. You won't have your big poofy gloves.

self-taught kickboxer
I have a background in taekwondo, so i really just had a learning curve with learning how to box. I know you're not supposed to teach yourself shit like this, but I am a "monkey see monkey do" person to the extreme. As long as there are videos of flawless technique being demonstrated, I can replicate it perfectly. I know for a fact my kickboxing isn't perfect considering I haven't had anyone formally teach me, but I know the day I enter a gym I will be an "intermediate" fighter right off the bat.

>>42688461
i believe in you anon

>>42688461
>the minute i enter a gym
that will be never, because you're a delusional autistic shut-in.

>>42681795
>so, how do you think the fight went?

>>42688482
no I just can't afford $100+ a month to spend on an extra-curricular activities right now. Not everyone on 4chan is a neckbeard no gf muh basement faggot

>>42688433
I'm in the same boat, but we got a Judo place where I live. With BJJ, it sounds like you have to normally just check them out to find a good gym.

>>42687093
Iv seen this one mma fighter forgot his name, he threw a low kick st a reporter who held a pad, the dude legit took flight. He flew into the air and spun around 360*. Imagine that mother fucker hitting your unconditioned shin or calf, you literally cannot fight back, that's a Charlie horse if iv ever seen one

>>42687108
he was already done after the first kick that didnt even see coming, cant blame him for not being able to move after that
low kick fucking hurts

>>42688520
>Not everybody on 4chan is a neckbeard basement faggot
You sure sound like one if you are teaching yourself TKD and thinking you'd even last against a novice in a gym.

>>42688461
Get your ass to the gym and let the coach test you for sparing, gonna learn real quick getting hit changes the entire sport.

>>42688461
>self taught
>taekwondo background
can smell your fedora bro, you are delusional, no sparring means early death

>>42688520
of course you can't. if you could, you'd end up embarrassed and so ashamed that you'd walk out on the first day with your eyes firmly affixed to the toes of your shoes. then you'd get online and talk about how the guys you trained with didn't know anything, because they didn't move in the "perfect" way you studied, and it isn't worth training with people who are just going to drag you down to mediocrity.

yes, i figured all of that out from one comment.

>>42688587
>>42688615
>>42688619
>>42688633
lmao why are you guys so upset?? I've gotten my ass kicked before, and vice versa. Not in street fights, but in multiple forms of sparring (tkd, wrestling, boxing, and pugil sticks because I went to a military school). I just want to learn how to specifically be a kickboxer now. I'll update you guys when I finally join a gym, sound good?

>>42688633
your comment was my favorite though, idk whats with people on this website thinking they can psychologically profile someone from "one comment". One Comment Man! I mean I understand it's generally pretty easy to do that but man oh man you really missed the ball on this one.

>>42688692
I was upset because it sounded like you never got hit before, if your a trained fighter just state that.

>>42688719
>i like your funny jokes about me, anon
the classic bullied autist response.

>>42688692
>i was just pretending to be retarded, the post

>>42688733
I'm not a "trained fighter". I'm "trained", and I have "fought", but it's not like I've ever contested in an actual competitive match or dedicated myself to it as a sport.

>>42688762
>Never been to a gym
>Trained

>>42684679
I kinda hate cleans and high pulls(not tecnical to do snatches)
I just do lots of squats and deadlifts.

>>42686650
> leg jabs before

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>I do martial arts for the street fight application

Can we end this meme once and for all so that >>42686785 can stop posting the same meme over and over?

>>42681825
Try boxing for a month seriously, anytime i have being into a kickboxing fight, kickboxers ar like throw a kick, opponent throws a kick then they throw another, they dont know how to be slick as a boxer and dont know how to chain movements like a boxer does, thats why some of the best kick boxers ar also into boxing, is just u dont learn that too well from most of kick boxing coachs.

>>42690894
>meme
>implying

>>42688148
You sound like a decent fellow anon, keep it on