ITT: Meme exercises that have zero benefits

barbell curls

>>42649496
lol weak bitch who can't ohp lmao1plaet detected

deadlifts

They are a meme to normies and only popular in weird online communities

flat BB bench

I used to hate on ohp but lately started to like them. Started doing 5x5 in the beginning of my push workouts (before bench or anything) and I suddenly blasted through my long stalling. As i added more weight i could feel my delts getting worked harder and harder (i could barely feel them before). Since then all i do for delts is ohp and front/lateral raises (alternate) and I'm pretty sure they've gotten bigger in addition to getting a lot stronger. Tldr dont hate, just keep adding weight

>>42649496
Unironically correct, there are much better exercises for delts. The core benefits from OHP are irrelevant if you're doing dls and squats.

>>42649496
I literally only train OHP so that I can lift grills over my head.

>>42649496
Wanna know how I know you're a dyel?

>>42649496
the benefit of overhead press is vertical pressing strength

as far as aesthetics are concerned
>>42649766 is absolutely right, if you want 3D delts you should be doing loads of lateral raises and rear delt accessory work and not another anterior delt focused pressing exercise (minimum adaptive volume for front delts is almost always reached just with horizontal pressing if done with enough volume - i.e not 3x5 bullshit)

>>42649897

>they rather do some dyel bitch faggot exercise

than

BE VISUALLY AWESOME AND PUT HEAVY SHIT OVER YOUR HEAD FOR SAKE OF PUTTING HEAVY SHIT OVER YOUR HEAD

literally betas detected

>>42649911
post your delts

>>42649911

so not only betas but fags also

Im not letting you to jerk off to photo of my delts

>>42649551
Agreed but what to replace it with?

>>42649823
this desu, have to work extra hard as gf is 5'10 and thicc

>>42649496
i stopped doing OHP because i have absolute shit shoulder mobility and just can't have my arms over my head without overextending my back(and yes i squeezed my ass as if Mandingo were behind me). Was pretty close to 1pl8 too

I'm doing a lot of lateral raises, face pulls and landmine pressess till i find a way to increase my shoulder mobility.Really liked the exercise too

>>42649931
because you don't have any, geek

>everyone can squat 200kg but 90% of people can't OHP 60kg
this is what you get when you only train memesquats and not your manlifts.
any male should OHP 75+kg after 6 months.

>trains traps, front delts, serratus anterior, tris
>valued in strongman and oly lifting
>visually impressive
>great for posture and shoulder health
>meme exercise with no real benefits

Hope starting strength is going well OP! Remember to GO-MAD haha d:-)

>>42650262
this is the first time i've ever seen someone actually list what the OHP trains correctly on /fit/

some potato before was claiming it was a great rear delt exercise, it's so piss

>>42649990

>only 75kg

common now you got to lift big in order to be big

>>42649935
Flat and incline DB press

>>42649990
>absolute values

fatty detected

every man should be able to OHP 0.75 x his bw for reps on a decent program after 6 months

>>42651264
>BW multiplier

manlet detected

>>42650282
I wouldnt say that its a "great rear delt exercise", but it surely hit the rear delt.
Thats just an evident fact.

>>42651290
>every strength sport uses weight classes

Haha fucking manlets amirite.

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>>42651312
yeah, fucking manlets, exactly

they can't compete in an absolute sense so they have to make divisions where a fully grown adult won't just mop the floor with them, it's pretty sad

OHP variations are the go to weightlifting exercise for throwing athletes though

shotput training and heavy push presses go hand in hand

>>42651336
http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/03/21/benching-for-big-throws/

it's bench and weird meme ballistic variations of bench more than anything

all those shotput freaks have insane bench press numbers

>>42651352
btn jerks are big too.

I'd figure you want all presses to be as big as possible for maximum stability

>>42649766
>>42649897
Is it even possible to have impressive cannonball tier 3D delts when you're natty?

>>42649911
>that post

You've been lifting for less than 6 months, right?

>>42651486
Cannonball? No. But well-shaped aesthetics delts absolutely yes. OHP alone is not enough for them, however.

>>42649897
Partly this

I've seen rapid delt growth, after years of believing I was genetically fucked in that department, by benching thrice a week, doing face pulls and rear delt flye machine and snatch presses behind the neck, all ranging between 1-6 sets of 1-10 reps. My delts are almost my best feature now, besides my lats and quads.

>>42651486
you can have decent delts natty if you have the genetics for it and do your side/rear delt work, but that 3D popping out of the skin in any lighting conditions effect is probably roids-only unless you're a real genetic freak

>>42651505
it's always the starting strength crew patting themselves on the back for being hardcore lifters

squats

Fucking useless and dangerous exercise that will fuck up your knees, your lower back, your neck and your wrists.

Wanna train legs? Do the leg press. Wanna train core stability? Do deadlifts. Wanna do cardio? Then do fucking cardio.

OHP is fun imo.

>>42650262

but ohp is included in SS?

wtf are you talking about

>>42651620
Leg press is way worse for knees than even shitty squats

What if I want to be better at pushing shit up over my head?

>>42651568
>it's always the starting strength crew patting themselves on the back for being hardcore lifters

Which is funny, because the actual hardcore lifters cringe at this shit.

How about weighted handstands instead of OHP?

>>42649766
i try to avoid lifting weights over my head as much as i can. terrible for most of your joints.

>>42651886
unironically better for your joints than bench

OHP fucks my shit up more than bench every has. I've always benched painlessly, and feel that form is easy to maintain.

OHP gives my left shoulder a strange sensation - it feels like my front delt is separating and moving toward my side delt.

I got to lmao1pl8 for 3 and said fuck it in favor of DB pressing

>>42651914
Not that guy but I've never had problems with bench (despite having a 4plate bench), yet I've injured my shoulder doing OHP.

>>42649541
this. You'll fuck up your back eventually going heavy. Everyone does. Completely useless for bodybuilding. If anything, it's actually counter productive considering the fact that you're widening your obliques. You can literally hit every muscle ten times more effectively doing anything other than a deadlift. I wish I never did them.

>>42652103
>several old powerlifters in my gym
>all they can do is meme machines now
>tell me about their surgeries

"You WILL fuck yourself up if you lift heavy for long enough"

>>42651997
Sounds like improper elbow positioning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqKhLR1zRaU

ITT:
>compound exercises are useless

>>42652197
So should I quit.

>>42649496
>>42649528
>>42649541
>>42649551
>>42651620

ITT: kids triggered because they have shitty stability

>>42652386

No.

Why won't we say "fuck off" to BB flat benching and do inclines instead? In fact the exercise in which I feel pecs are involved the most are the machine chest flys.

rear loaded barbell squats
Just use leg press it's literally the exact samr but you can lift more weight (building more muscle) and don't have the risk of snapping your shit

>>42652484
When will this meme die

Shrugs

>>42652542
t. traplet

>>42652462
I feel the best pull on my pecs during wide dips. Don't feel jack when do flat bench press.

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>>42649911
>muh alpha iron temple
lol

Everything fucks you up in the end. There's a karmalitic trade off for everything in the end. Look and feel good now with weightlifting, fuck yourself over because of it at old age

>>42652103
>>42649541
>I can't imagine any reason for wanting explosive back strength
sure if you're lifting to jerk off to yourself in the mirror deadlits aren't gonna do much for you. If you want to be a serious athlete in any contact sport, guess what you gotta deadlift.

I can put up 455, and you better not let me get your back in wrestling or it's back arch suplex city. I fucked up much bigger guys in football cause my core was reinforced with rebar

>>42652623
Wrong. Being weak is what kills in old age. Being too weak to walk, too weak to stay active. Too weak to fuck. Your dead at that point.

>>42651914
unironically isn't, despite what Rippetoe claims (with absolutely no evidence, mind you)

of course the absolute number of bench injuries will be greater, since almost everyone does bench press while OHP is now mainly done by redditors and /fit/ incels

Sure is DYEL in here

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>>42649496
ITT:
>bench is bad for you
>OHP is bad for you
>squats are bad for you
>deadlifts are bad for you
>lifting is bad for you

why the fuck are you guys even here?

>>42649935
[Barbell or dumbbell decline, or dips] and [reverse grip or incline barbell or dumbbell press or nether chest shrugs]

>>42651294

>hits the rear delt

It hits the rear delt the same way flat bench does, it helps stabilize the shoulder joint. That's it though.

>>42650356
I might but unfortunately my gyms dumbells only go to 100lb and its shitty. Aslo I don't think there isca huge difference between dumbell bench and barbell

>>42649931
Lol fake detected. Go back to r9k

>angry DYEL: The Thread

>>42653172
you gotta realize that most likely more than half of the posters here don't lift but for some reason give lifting advice

>>42652576
Then you're doing bench wrong.

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>>42651694
>Leg press is way worse for knees than even shitty squats
Citation needed.

>>42650282
That's weird because the function of action for the posterior delt is assist in extension and horizontal abduction. The rear delt doesn't preform abduction or flexion.

So fuck You

>>42649496
THE ONLY EXERCISES YOU NEED

1. Run
2. Sit ups
3. Weighted pull ups *includes chin ups

EVERYTHING else is a MEME

>>42653990
you're right, it is weird because extension and horizontal abduction only occur on the eccentric portion of the OHP and as a result the rear delts are used almost negligibly

the OHP is not a rear delt exercise anymore than the bench press is a rear delt exercise

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>>42652542
enjoy no traps

>>42652211
Thanks for that video. I knew my wrist position was a bit wonky but the ques he gives are pretty good

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>>42653172
that pic

>what did they mean by this

>>42654040
post body

>>42649496
All of them

>>42654081
you dont have to shrug for traps
its better to do fuckton of rows desu

>>42652022
you're probably ohp'ing too much weight because your triceps make up for a lack of shoulder strength

>>42654040
>2. Sit ups
For those killer hip flexors, right babe?

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>>42649496

>>42649937
Sounds like she's the one who needs to work out.

>>42653172
>that pic
what the fuck

>>42649938
Why don't you just work on shoulder mobility then...?

>>42649496

The press has a purpose

It weeds out the pussies

>>42652416
or everyone just going for (you)s

>>42652590
This
Can we just ban all these cringelords already?
You are ruining /fit/ with your 15 year old mindset, 2 months lifting experience, and cringe worthy posts

>>42649496

You have to be some special kind of retard if you fail to see the importance and benefits of the overhead press. Sad.

>>42649496
Only ones I agree with itt are flat bench and deadlift. Plenty of better chest exercises: floor press, db press, dips, crossovers, etc. Deadlifts replace with rack pulls, (reverse) hyperextensions, pull throughs, rdls, sldls, w/e. Less risk of tweaking something and you'll hit glutes, hams, lower back, traps, forearms just as much.

>>42649541
Diddies are pretty normie at the gym I go to.

Keep in mind my gym is ghetto and isn't full of rich babbymen

>>42656180
>replace deadlift with rack pull
for what purpose? if you're gonna do one you might as well do the other

>>42656180
Cable flies are what work my chest the most. I wish I discovered them awhile ago.

>>42656214
>Cable flies
Stupid useless meme exercise

>>42656192
you'll work forearms, upperback, traps better with rack pulls because you'll be able to lift heavier
hyperextensions or some variant will work the spinal erectors which is what you'll miss out on if you replace dl with just rack pulls

>>42656296
hyperextensions will work the spine like a deadlift? lmao -- what is the purpose of cutting out the deadlift if you're gonna do rack pulls anyway? makes no sense, if you're scared of injury then i can see just not doing either but to do one and then try to replace the other? stupid

>>42654548

A girl can be absurdly hot at 5'10 and 170lbs. That's really hard to lift over your weight..

>>42656246

useless yes, but for aesthetics..

>>42656318
most vulnerable position during the deadlift is the bottom, same reason why good mornings injure people so often
is it a perfect replacement? maybe not, but you're being purposefully obtuse if you're saying rack pulls + hyperextensions won't hit the same muscles as a deadlift would

>>42649496
I dunno, sometimes at work I have to futz around with the tiles on the ceiling, because for some reason we store things in a section of said roof. So, sometimes when I have to get it back in place, I have to screw around with it, so I lift or hold, or just generally screw around with it until I'm able to get the thing properly back into place, because of all the piping and light fixtures and crap.

>>42649766
deadlifts and squat dont do jackshit for abs

Who ever came up with this is fucking lying to you and should incorporate 2 to 3 ab exercises into your rountine before its to late

>>42649551
Unironically this

You get more benefits doing flat db bench and weighted 3x5 dips

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>>42649911
>He thinks one 3x5 exercise performed once a week will make him aesthetic

Everyone fucking laugh

>>42653172
imho I thinking benching is the most dangerous.

>>42654040
Please tell me you are trolling.

>>42649496
Meme exercises:
Anything machine related that is supposed to work abs
Leg extensions
Behind neck lat pulldown
Bench flys
Kipping pull-ups (AKA snake-ups)
Sit-ups

Granted some of those have > zero benefits but are objectively worse that other existing options.

>>42657187
Bench Press is objectively the most dangerous exercise. It's about the only one that can kill you.

>>42655762
I used to frequent /fit/ five years ago. Haven't been much around the last years, but now it's become really shitty. Is it just summer or has it been like this for a while?

/fit/ used to be the best board on 4chan man.

>>42651486
What you're actually asking is
>is it possible to have a small chest and regular sized delts so you look aesthetic in pictures while natty

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Bench press is a great exercise, but the dumbbell press is better in just about every way.

>>42650262
>visually impressive
When will fedora core cringe meme end
Nobody watching you OHP thinks youre cool deluded asswipe

>>42652103
>youll fuck up your back eventually going heavy. everyone does

as much as i love diddlies this guy is right, you will snap your shit up doing heavy deads, i wasnt able to lift for 6 months last year.

>>42652542
Enjoy your twink look

>>42656296
so why no just deadlift and kill 2 birds with 1 stone, not dangerous if you're not ego lifting or actually know what good form looks like

>>42656357
>not doing all 3 for optimal carryover

>>42652484
You're supposed to load your back, not your rear

ITT: Trolls trolling trolls

>>42652628
>If you want to be a serious athlete in any contact sport, guess what you gotta deadlift.

which is NOT the goal of 99% of /fit/. if you aren't getting paid money or a scholarship for your physical activity in some form, there is 0 reason to ever deadlift

>I can put up 455, and you better not let me get your back in wrestling or it's back arch suplex city. I fucked up much bigger guys in football cause my core was reinforced with rebar

>2017
>getting in fights

SICK BRO

>>42652623
>Look and feel good now with weightlifting

You look good with low-stress, high rep lifts for hypertrophy and a proper diet. Olympic and power lifts will leave you waking up in the middle of the night starting in your 40's and you'll be hurting

>>42651914
bench is pretty horrible for your shoulders too

take the scooby pill and make perfect-form, slow dumbbell flies the main component of your chest workout

>>42652197
Same story at my gym. All the former strongmen and olympic lifters are ALWAYS in the most pain/most restricted due to injury.

I'm friendly with a few guys and we talk about this. Some of them are big into wrestling and tell me how they see John Cena working out and squatting 600+ pounds when hes like 40 years old. They just laugh and say Cena is going to end up all crippled up in another decade or two

>>42651545
Interesting. Could you give me an example workout? Maybe the last one you did with these movements?

I won't stop doing OHP because I like the movement and refuse to date anyone who's heavier than my OHP. However, delts are my favorite muscle group and I wanna blow em up

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>>42660157
>refuse to date anyone who's heavier than my OHP
Me too, me too

>>42660157
>refuse to date anyone who's heavier than my OHP
>However, delts are my favorite muscle group and I wanna blow em up

Chubby chaser detected.

>>42660345
you can only take the high test if you can lift her above your head

>>42654272
Why do people who don't know what they're talking about post? I shoulder press 50kg dumbells for hypertrophy ffs.

>>42649541
>>42649551
>>42649496
>>42650356
>>42651620
>>42654040
>>42660355

You're all cancer. I know none of you even row because it isn't on the list.

Anyone seeking consistent growth in strength and size needs to dead, squat, bench, row, and OHP, plain and simple.

You won't hurt yourself if you're doing them correctly. Watch powerlifting videos to achieve ideal form- they aren't pushing plates like cheerios by accident

>>42660413
>powerlifting
>ideal form

10/10 bait.

>>42660444
good argument and nice numbers

>>42660459
/thread

>>42651747
If you're a wristlet like me that's a no go