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/fraud/ - How McGregor was cheated out of a decision by a biased referee deccision, and why for the next 2 weeks everyone will only talk about the McGregor - Mayweather fight edition


Read all of http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.

If you must ask your absolutely retarded questions, include your age, height, weight, bodyfat percentage, and time spent training as a preface.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK.

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>>42647691
Did you even watch the fight? Conor was already completely out of steam and couldn't defend himself anymore when the ref stopped the fight. He would've lost even by a decision.
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I've just started cruising after a Test/Tren blast, and my fatigue builds up way quicker than I remember in the gym now, so my blast routine is obviously not an option anymore.

What sort of routine should I run until my next blast, if I want to still increase strength?

I'm running 75mg Test E e3d rn.
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>>42647739
Imho test is the golden standard in terms of benefit/risk ratio for strength and size.

So... cruise test, blast high test? Very underrated

Creatine can help with lifting fatigue a little. Try messing with macros, more carbs? Also more sleep, maybe less volume more intensity
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>skinnyfat friend calls me and asks about roids to get ripped
>he doesn't even lift (doesn't know how to either) so I tell him to spend a year learning lifting and diet
>calls me today saying he started a cycle of test/tren/mast

What's gonna happen to him /fit/?
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>>42647976
he'll make gains while training like a moron, then continue to train like a moron, get off juice while training like a moron, get injured, lose gains, quit, tell stories about how he was hot shit when he started
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I KNOW HOW TO TRAIN VERY WELL NATURALLY ,, DOING SOLID PROGRAMS AND MADE GOOD PROGRESS. DOES THAT MEAN ON 500 MG OF TEST-E I CAN DO A RECOMPOSITION WHERE U GAIN MUSCLE AND LOSE FAT AT THE SAMETIME EATING SLIGHTLY BELOW MAINTENANCE CALORIES WITH HIGH PROTEIN INTAKE
THANKS,, I HAVE DONE THIS NATURALLY B4 BUT I SEE PEOPLE ON FORUM SAY U CANT DO THAT ON GEAR... LOL... I TIHNK TEYRE RETARDS DISCREDITING THE DRUGS THEY TAKE AND THINKING ITS ALL THEIR HARD WORK BUT REALITY ITS MOSTLY THE DRUGS
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>>42647976
i think he will get injured fast becasue his nervous system was never under enough stress and he will snap his shit as soon as strength gains will kick in
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>>42647719
I have never understood the appeal of competitive fighting. Especially UFC. Everything just turns into hugging or watching two people squirm on the ground like a bundle of worms

It's genuinely more entertaining to watch niggers fight each other on youtube.
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I bought a little friend. He's giving me this smirk all the time i think he likes me. Feels good to have a friend finally.
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Took some strong stuff to sleep last night. Woke up today for my morning injection and went 1/2 inch deep before I realized I was pinning with my (20g) draw needle.

Ouch
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After Im done bulking Im considering water fasting for 7 or so days before recomping.

I've got tbol, var, and sdrol, is it worth using sdrol over tbol or var in this circumstance since I wont be gaining during that period?

Like 20mg sdrol, or 75mg tbol or 100mg var.

After that week I want to go to recomping.
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>>42648451
He is cute, take care if him and dont forget to start him on whey and weight wests to get him big and jucy
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Anyone have any experience with tbol?

I'm thinking of using it to frontload my first cycle and I like the fact that it has milder sides than dbol and adrol. Looking for something dry that won't fuck my shit up like epi
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>>42648411
stop tripping, youre an embarassment
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>>42648846
Dbol fucks my shit up, but adrol doesnt. Sdrol doesnt fuck my shit up either.

S23 will actually give you some gains and is dry.
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>>42648822
>>42648822
I searched for his family tree and apparently this was his grandfather. He got them massive roelly winklaar monster genetics. Test and meat is what my buddy needs.
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Would a 16 week cycle of 500mg of test make your face leaner/your cheeks more hollow, and make your jaw more square?
Also, what is Anadrol good at and does it raise blood pressure?
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>>42648855
I wish mossad would get the hate that crusader does. Yeah I don't agree with his religious fanaticism or his stories about gf but at least he's an entertaining kind of idiot.
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>>42648985
>his religious fanaticism
he's only LARPing
sickening
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Dont know where to ask so might as well ask here because yall are some anatomy autists (mean that in the best way possible)

>had surgery yesterday
>was under general anesthesia
>woke up and no numbness, a little swelling
>now a lot of swelling and mental nerve is blocked

The numbness is fucking annoying. Am I going to have to wait for the swelling to go away for my mental nerve to get unfucked or is it a result of the anesthesia and will go away sooner?
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>>42649110
Might be the swelling desu.
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Hi
I have probably 6 cycles under my belt and would consider myself a very experienced lifter, but I haven't lifted in a year or so because I've been addicted to WoW. I am about to start a 3 month blast of Test E, Dbol, Tren E, Aromasin, and Caber/Letro on hand.
Any random tips or advice you think I should all know? (yes I've used all these drugs before). Just looking to spit ideas around before I start
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>>42649110
Could be nerve damage or swelling. Swelling will go away fast, but a cut or frayed nerve will last a while. I had my carpal tunnel released and it took 6 months for my middle finger to feel normal again (was tingly and felt "asleep" 24/7).
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What's wrong with my back?

Left side that you can see is sticking out pretty significantly, looks fucked from the side.
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>>42649419
I should add. No pain or discomfort. Seems to flare up whenever I squat and then slowly go down over a few days after.
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>>42648451
Wow he's great I love him. You need to love him. What a smol bean.
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>>42649606
Yeah i love him, he's funny.

You look great man, mirin hard good job.
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>>42649758
Ah what a cool dude!
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>>42647739
You fatigue faster because of the tren interfering with the production of red blood cell
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>>42649758
awesome cat is awesome :D
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>>42647719
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>>42648895
A mighty ancestor. Get him on chicken and beef then.
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>>42648957
A 16week cut at -500kcal will do a lot more for your face and overall aesthetics than steroids.

>>42649336
Get your account banned.
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>>42649419
Just looks like asymmetrical gains

Do some unilateral lat and spine erector work
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i miss

>swollen glands
>ESTP
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I still got 6 weeks left of babbys first test cycle but i am absolutely disgusted with my body. Im afraid that i will get fatter if i continue with surplus, cutting on 500mg/week is a waste of gear and recomping is just spinning your wheels. I will cruise after. Still not sure if it's bloat or fat and i won't know until i cut. I need advice.
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>>42650672
bulk thru your 500mg blast.

Then cut on a 250mg cruise dose until you are lean.
When you reached that point, do PCT and stay on maintenance until you are fully recovered.

Or just BnC for life and be cut year around because you have all the time in the world.
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>First CT Fletcher
>Next Piana
>Then Carver
>Now Rippletoe

wtf is 2017
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>>42650696
>BnC for life
that's the plan

I hate cutting because it takes time. I can only hope that enhanced cut won't be as bad as natty cut.
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>>42649758
>mast is a cat person

>>42650796
You can cut way faster on roids
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>>42650875
>You can cut way faster on roids

how fast?
im currently cutting and it sucks ass.. im so worried about losing muscle, and i have to stay on my diet for at least another month.
if i start juicing now, would it be beneficial for fat loss and muscle loss prevention?
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>>42650911
I am on test e and clenbuterol atm and it works like a wonder

I was skinny fat and somehow my abs are almost visible and my arms became bigger and ripped

I think i gain muscle and lose fat because im a noob as well
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>>42650875
by "faster" you mean i can hold on to my muscles on bigger deficit? I think i saw someone here saying that he's cutting on 1000 deficit and 250mg test per week
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>>42650875
i dont think test really speeds up your cut

>>42650911
cutting on 250mg didnt make it really faster, but you lose zero, ZERO muscle.
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>>42649996
Say no more. Only thing that matters in life is getting huge hugeeee.

>>42650875
More a dog person, but working full-time i have no time for a dog.
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>>42650952
>cutting on 250mg didnt make it really faster, but you lose zero, ZERO muscle.
how large of a deficit can you go on while on 250mg test?
i really just wana be done with cutting, need to lose another 5-7%
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>>42650952
I wanna water fast on gear
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>>42650875
>being a dog or a cat person
>not just being an animal person

Though I must admit most cats are fucking retarded and barely worthy of existing.
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>>42650911
Eat 800cals a day fast

>>42650947
Yeah exactly

>>42650952
Thats not what I meant
Bigger safe deficits

>>42650992
Damn
I never thought about it that way
Poor dogs

>>42651047
Sounds like youre not much of an animal person
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>>42651047
I am more an animal person than a human person. I hate humans.

If you ever say shit about my buddy i will fcking rape you in your sleep, you hear me faggot.
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>>42651000
idk mang, but i think i was on a pretty large deficit. More than 500 cals thats for sure.

You have all the time in the world bro, If you are on BnC, once you cut down, you can be cut for the rest of the time. Because u'll just keep making gains
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>his diet doesn't consist of 100% raw meat
Explain?
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>>42648411
You are incorrect
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>>42651591
99% raw meat and a multi vitamin

>>42650700
cancer so far
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>>42651096
Just don't let him outside.

>be out walking dog
>retarded cat comes up trying to defend its territory from a dog that weighs 5 times as much
>even when they are out of sight they have to make it a point to be seen
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>>42649974
>unofficial scoring
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>>42651591
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>tfw the true roidpill is when you realize all you need to have a nice body that makes pussies wet, is hitting your macros, spending a small amount of your time at the gym, and some cycles.
Why did people ever tell me it was hard.
All I did was buy some stuff and lift some objects.
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>>42648451
nice
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>>42648411
there is zero difference between niggers and nigger-minded ""whites""
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>>42652699
Not even color of skin? :0
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>>42652418
>letting a 800 euro cat outside so i can be taken away from me and sold to some dirty motherfck.

I live in an apartment with a balcony. He can't go out. But otherwise i would never let him go outside. It would definitely get stolen. You only see those dirty cheap ass cats outside.
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>>42652988
comfy
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>>42652922
only retards think only skin color makes race difference
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I'm curious..

What's your age, and how long have you been "using" AAS? &...For how long are you planing on being on AAS?..

I would like to feel the power of AAS, but I'm afraid that I could not deal with the follwing; not being able to maintain or keep the mass that I gain during a cycle..

I would really appriciate if some of you could share how you deal with this dilemma? And if you could describe how you feel on cycle vs. off cycle..

Thanks in advance
- L
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>>42653165
besides your tremendously faggot signature i will help you.

unless you're at the natty limit (hint you're not) you will be able to keep 80% off the mass from a cycle if you're diet/training would be on point during/after pct.
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>>42648610
Sdrol kills appetite if you take it for a couple weeks, but it also makes you crave sugar so IDK. If I were you I'd do a whey-only fast instead of a water-only fast, then take sdrol while recomping. I don't have any experience with tbol or var though
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>>42647691
Why cant I find any good Tbol
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>>42653267
Nothing about tbol is "good".
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>>42653284
What wrong with Tbol
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>>42648480
I've accidentally pinned with my 20s before, thinking I was just hitting scar tissue resistance or something.

Pip is definitely more noticeable but as long as its well used muscle it doesn't make a ton of difference.
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>>42653267
I've never seen so many people mention tbol until JJ popped for it

Unless you're a pro athlete with a ton of expendable cash idk why anyone would ever use it
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>>42653378
even pro athletes have better choice i think.

i think those so called steroid coaches sell them a lot of shit steroids because muh oldschool knowledge.

i might be wrong but thats what i think

>>42653330
ouch maybe you werent hitting scar tissue at first but now you're probably scarred af.
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>>42653432
I read its because the half life of tbol is shorter than similar compounds so its easier to get away with.

Also the lack of water weight but then, why not tren? idk.

Except JJ didn't. Again. Like a dumbass.
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>>42652988
>dirty cheap ass cats

Nigga they aint some kind of accessory.

Fucker looks kawaii though.
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>>42653457
I'd imagine the effects on cardio are much less on tbol than tren.
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>>42653457
fairly certain they use other stuff that hides traces of AAS.
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>>42653501
Mmm yea that makes a lot of sense.
>>42653518
From what I've read specifically about coaches like Jones nutritionist, whos name I'm forgetting, they try and run a fuck ton of odd supps and compounds to like, throw of bloods, and then crash the test levels prior to bloods.

Because I know after the first DCvJJ fight JJ had 'suspiciously low levels of test', like at the same or lower than DC, who was around 35 at the time.
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>>42653486
My boys are 14 and prefer the outdoors now that we've got the puppy. Always been indoor outdoor. Indoor only cats are autistic weirdies. It's cool to see the shit my boys slaughter too. They get scrappy sometimes but they're thicc boys. Animals need nature.
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>>42653486
>>42653486
Special breed cats are. Especially those who has some decent family tree. Same goes for dogs.

Ideally i would have this dog. Cost like 2k minimum. Monster.
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>>42653689
Fuck yeah.

I've read they stay pretty healthy and get old too, especially for big breeds.

I still disagree with the accessory shit.
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is dbol useless if you use ai?
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Sometimes when I inject I feel a sharp pain as the needle goes in and I have to pull it. It continues to hurt afterwards. Have I hit a nerve when I do this?
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>>42653759
if you hit nerve the muscle will spazz out and you pull the needle out without thinking
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>>42648872
Looking into Sdrol right now and it sounds amazing. I'm mostly interested in strength and conditioning gains for mma.
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>>42653801
Low dose sdrol is changing my build like crazy.
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>>42653833
What are the sides of sdrol like, and whats your cycle looking like with it?
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>>42653844
20 sdrol just bumped up to 500/500 test dhb so I have a few weeks before those start to show results.

Physique looks like >>42649606

Sides are negligible right now. Maybe some lethargy but that's it. I need sugar while lifting but I always drink dextrose regardless.
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>>42653753
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>>42652988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ygBgYosJs
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>>42653866
Yea man your chest and core are looking way better than a few months ago, noice
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>>42653833
>Low dose sdrol
>>42653866
>20 sdrol
oh you
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>>42653753
AI is for fags dude just pop the dbol, no test base, no AI, and go to town. Also don't do cardio and start at a high BF%
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>>42653866
why dont you have a back

you could have a 9999/10 physique
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What should my PCT protocol look like if I've been BnC for 1.5 - 2 years?

I'm currently cruising on 175mg Test E pw btw
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>>42653919
Oh
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>>42648451
>>42649758
>>42652988
CUTE

Guy looks so comfy and content.
Pls dont ever yell at the cat for being a dyel.
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>>42653953
Your lats are so small in comparison.
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tfw all your shit gets seized
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What do you think about bulking with clenbuterol test e and dbol?Would it help lean bulking?
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>>42654098
no...
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>>42654079
where do you live
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>>42654098
I dont get it, are you trying to offset the bloat and water gains of dbol with clen?


Why not just take a dry compound? Or tren?
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>>42654098
>>42654374

I think he wants the clen to "burn off the fat" while being anti-catabolic in nature and let the rest build muscle.

It won't work.
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can you replace overheadpress with incline bench press in 5/3/1?
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how much aromasin u use 500 mg test-e dbol 30 mg how much aromasin per day per week
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Anyone tried sibutramine before?
I try to get my appetite with ephedrin and coffein under control but that shit gets tolerated real quick
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Next summer I'm gonna live the life lads. I live in Norway and steroids are criminally illegal to even posses.

>Go to Thailand for 4 weeks during summer vacation
>Buy steroids and do them for said weeks while lifting weights and throwing in an occasional muay thai session since I used to train it
>Eat all day
>Fuck ladyboys and whores every day
>Lay on the beach and relax in the tropics all day
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>>42647691
Can anyone here answer this?

>>42655572
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>>42655754

>4 week cycle

enjoy no actual results
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>>42655754
>4 weeks
not really enough to make gains but still sounds fun
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>>42655824
>>42655827

I know. I thought about maybe buying some orals for the way home. I have a perscription on sleeping tablets so I could just put them in that and smuggle it home. But I'm not sure how effective that would be to be honest, Any thoughts?
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>>42655758
Nothing legal will do that

Go for real pharma HGH but its expensive HGH, not peptides

Currently testing Chink UGL HGH and ill have bloods soon.

Its lots cheaper, but you have to worry about customs, there are plenty of pharma distributors of Legit hgh in the US, do your research.

I dont know what its going to do for height, but at the end of the day you are fucking with your hormones, so remember that, and you are young.
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>>42655846
You should read the OP and learn how bad your ideas are
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>>42655846
Unless you're on test the whole 12-16 week cycle taking orals without test is dumb

>>42655858
This Anon is correct.
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got approached by rugby captain in the campus gym asked me to join the team guess im doubling my boldenone dose
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>>42653866
Lookin big bro.

You take anything for your liver or kidneys while on it?

I'm thinking of going 10mg sdrol for the first 4 weeks of a 500mg/wk test cycle.
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>>42656132
>gets a drug test
>become a felon
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>>42656215

>implying most athletes are not on gear and manage to get around testing
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>>42656257
>Pours lemonade into test
>"Gee anon, your test shows no roids but tone down on that Vitamin C will ya?"
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>>42648957

The opposite.

It'll probably give you moon face while your on. Then your face will be back to how it normally is when it leaves your system. Losing weight is the best thing for face gains.
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>>42649336
I'd switch to prop/ace or run it longer. 12 weeks isn't very long.
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5,5 weeks on 500mg test e 50mg dbol now and I'm up almost 40 lbs, wtf.

I don't seem to have gotten fat (obliques are more pronounced) and I am taking 0.5mg of armidex eod. My face is a little bloated, but not overly so.

What the actual fuck? Other guys I read about gain half of that.
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>>42656215
its a club sport theres no testing lmao its not even a d1 school
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> apparently was banned last week from /gif/ for racism

> order a kg of mucana pruriens extract from bulk supplements
> throw a tablespoon in my mouth as I know what mucana pruriens tastes like
> it's corn starch
> vomit
> spend 10 minutes trying to get the corn starch out of my mouth while gagging

Guess I'll chargeback the order.

>>42647691

It was pretty obvious that Mayweather was going to win. I was visiting a town that has no niggers/etc and everyone at the bar put money on Mayweather. And everyone won.

And the blondes up there, holy shit. Like pic related but with a nicer ass.
Think I might buy a house there, only $450/mo for a 15-year.

>>42647976

Stretch marks.
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Oh yeah, where's the Piano Man /fraud/ thread? Missed it, was away from technology
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Guys I'm on my third week of roids right now (test-e, did the following shots)

>day 1 like 200mg
>day 4 like 100mg
>day 7 like 350mg
>day 13 like 350-400mg
>about to be on day 19 and gonna do another 400mg

Anyways, I'm still not feeling fuck all. This has been the most underwhelming experience of my life. About to throw some tren ace into this next shot because apparently test doesn't do shit
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>>42656959
Lmao
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>>42656959
throw in a lethal dose of fentanyl too
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>>42647691
If I wanted to do an oral only cycle which oral would y'all recommend and what's a reputable source?
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>>42657573
Read the OP retard
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>>42657573
go read the wiki
then read it again and then do more research,

Or do a dbol only cycle like a retard, who am i but a random anon giving internet advice.
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>>42656959
>Using Enanthate ester only without oral booster
>at Week 3 and complains about not feeling it

you dumbass
enanthate ester based roids take at least 4 weeks to kick in
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>>42657573
no source talk

also oral only is retarded, gtfo
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>>42657573
There is no such thing as an oral only cycle. You understand me, faggot? It doesn't exist. You can't take a testosterone suppressing drug like Dianabol without supplementing with exogenous testosterone.
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Sup /fraud/. I was assisting during a spinal injection yesterday and we had to stick a 5" 22g needle into some guy's back because he was deadlifting with shitty form and snapped his shit up. Be safe broskis.
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did my 4th shot of test-e yesterday and i cant sleep now
is this normal?
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Theoretically speaking, would someone on 500mg tren and 250mg test with proper diet and only lifting 1 times a week end up with a better physique than an above average natty surfer guy who is moderately active(ie running, bit of calisthenics, sports, etc).
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>>42658489
depens on ur muscle insertions if u saynatty surfer is above averge u mean he has good muscle inserton and lean then he good physique but if u 500mg tren and test u dont need ot lift and will have bigger muscles
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Gf wants me to hook her up with anavar and start a fitness blog together lmao

How are gains for girls like on low dose var?
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>>42658888
Crazy good. 5mg daily is all that is needed. Recomped my ex in about 6 weeks and brought her squat to 2plate @ 130 bw w/ visible abs.

Clit and voice weren't issues. Acne and libido were. Mood swings were nuts. Mileage may vary.
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>>42658917
Nice, how long would it take for mood swings and acne to disappear if she were to stop taking it? Or is it too many variables?
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>>42658948
Probably 2-4 weeks but like you said lots of variables.
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If Boogie ends up with a longer life than Rich, will you admit roids are bad for you?
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Are there any good PCT sources that don't rely on bitcoin?? Tryna pay like a normie boys
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Wearing this shirt out in harajuku right now and I've never been eye fucked by so many gal and highschool Japanese girls in my life. Life is good.

I also wore this (when I took the picture) to a club in akiba and pretty much had my choice at any of the girls in the club.
Life is good and inb4 roiding for this. Yeah I might look like shit but I haven't seen anyone bigger than me in this country yet.
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are there any places that teach how to recognize individual steroid usages just by looking at a bodybuilders physique?
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>>42653881
>a cat on a leash
Seems more retarded than myself

>>42653985
I don't think he would care. He's showing his alpha presence already. Not giving a fuck about anything, only breaking my house down.

the little fucker

>>42659323
What the fucking i am looking at?
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>>42659037
Roids are bad for you. But so is obesity, and in the case of Rich coke/opioid overdoses.
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>>42659333
Personally i don't notice clear differences between compounds aside from water retention. Someone on tren could as easily be on mast and I dont think i would be able to tell.
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>>42659367
A bathroom selfie of me at a club in Akihabara
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>>42659278
It takes literally five minutes to set up paying in BTC. If you're not mentally retarded you can do it.
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>>42659333
>>42659373
This. You can get a general idea of what kind of things someone might be taking, but there's no formula like "x physique = y drug". And if you're talking pro bodybuilders, they're all pretty much taking the same stuff.
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>>42659037
Roids are bad for your health. We all know it's not good, like shitty eating shitty food, doing drugs, drinking alcohol and so on.

Eventually genetics will play a huge role of course. Some people roid their whole life and just get old because they have good genetics, same for people who smoke and drink their whole life and still become 90. You're playing Russian roulette

Using Rich as an example is like cherry picking about that guy that smoked and and drink his whole life and still becomes 90.


>>42659375
So you're copying our alpha Jerry? What's that about?

Is that a fucking club? looks like a fucking shit hole
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>>42659323
>roiding for this
or, alternatively:
>being literally the biggest person in the entire city
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>>42659438
Looks like the men's bathroom at nearly every club ever
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>>42659438
The best clubs have the shittiest toilets, if you didnt know this you probably havent been to one.
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>>42659438
I'm pretty much a Jerry jr or Jerry lite. So like the shittier and smaller version that no one likes.
The club was a indeed dive but it was alot of fun. They basically spin anison edm style remixes and surprisingly quite a bit of girls actually show up their. I was dancing with a a girl who was 4ft 5 for most of the night so shit was pretty cash. She asked me in broken English if I was staying far from Akihabara and I replied with "im in shinjuku but I'm going to stay until it closes (5am) so I should be able to get the early morning train. At first I thought she was concerned that I was going to miss the last train but thinking back on it I think she wanted to fug. I pretty much did not see her again after that.
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>>42659469
>>42659528
I don't go clubbing anymore. But the last time i went to a club it was just good looking.

I only remember that festivals have some gore looking toilets. The last festival i went blood, shit and piss was all over the place accept in the toilet. But that was fucking years a go.

I hate clubbing, i rather stay inside flexing my muscle and thinking about how to get bigger , , more shredded and play video games. I hate people in general.

Every time when i go outside i regret it

>>42659589
I can tell by this post that you're still a virgin.
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>>42659690
I agree I'm such s homebody and I'm lazy. Would rather lift and read books vs go out. Glad my lady agrees.
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>>42659702
Same here. I am glad my gf isn't some club slut. Just going out sporadically is fine for us both.
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a dominant lady who i talked to yesterday wants to put me on a leash and walk me in her apartment like a slutty puppy

now this goes against my tren way-of-thinking, but id be lying if i said i wasnt turned on

my question is how much AI for 750 deca and 250 test
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>>42649336
do tren higher than test
start the dbol at week 4

thank me later
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>>42659749
Nothing wrong with that

Nobody can tell that for you. Some people need even 0,5 ai eod during cruise.

Just start low and up the dose if you feel like it. There is no magic number
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>>42659800
thanks, always get these kind of over the top kinks when im cycling

would 0.25 or 0.5 eod arimidex be a good starting dose?
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>>42659690
Not a virgin but don't really care 3D women. I only want a small Asian girlfriend for the aesthetic
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>>42659749
Don't sweat it my lady and I switch off doing the same stuff.
>>42659728
Exactly man we'd rather just save the money
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>>42659822
Imo i would start with 0,5 eod. Most use the same approach. Lower or up the dose from there.

Are you really fat right now? This is also something you need to take into account.

Watch your balls, are they're getting smaller? are you feeling irritated or do you have oily skin? Up the dose.

Cranky joints, itchy scalp, able to get an erection but not able to cum or cock feeling less sensitive while fucking. Lower the dose

>>42659840
What daki do you have

>>42659844
I see no reason to go clubbing with your gf. I did it in the beginning, but it always ended up in some arguments or fights.
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>>42659907
thats a great summed up list of symptoms, thanks
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>>42659907
I got one of babbys first waifu Hatsune Miku and then one of yoshino from date a live. I want to find an Azusa one while I'm out here and a Watanabe You as well.
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Anyone get extreme loneliness on tren? I just had a really severe emotional revelation... I just feel like I'm spinning my wheels in life, and am just going to end up empty, and soon dead after that. I just feel like I'm never going to be happy again in my life, I just want it to end. No amount of porn or sex makes me feel any better... I just wish somebody loved me, or I had somebody to care about... I have no friends, just a job, the gym, and life I just don't want to live anymore.
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>>42660196
tren side effects includes feeling less emotionally attached to people or stuff etc

i dont get what youre talking about on your level, cus i already am like that without steroids, but on tren it actually feels better
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>>42659037
1 in 3 deaths in America is due to heart disease.. before you take in all the cancer, diabetes, etc that goes along with being fat.

Being fat is literally the worst thing you can do.

Roids have a potential to harm, like food does in excess, but not as high as long term food excess.

It's not the roids, but the potential effects that can have on blood pressure, cholesterol, lipids, hematocrit, rhr etc that's associated with heart health.

Most of those can be avoided and/or managed, you just have to care about it, and not be a jackass and let your bp etc stay elevated at 140+ for fucking ever.

Eg; 20mg dbol skyrockets my bp to 150/90+ but I can do 100mg anadrol with no additional increase in bp over taking test (I go from 108-110 to 123-125 on high doses of test).

Keeping an eye on your general health and first indicators like bp/rhr will tell you if/when you need to change your behavior.
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>>42660098
Just be yourself


>>42660213
>tren side effects includes feeling less emotionally attached to people or stuff etc
I get this every time a day after injecting 150 test + 125 mast cruise dose. I turn into a fucking prick not caring about my gf, basically ignoring her all the time and even thinking about leaving her.

i look at myself, damn i am fucking ugly. I look at my gf, damn she's ugly. It's better to kill us both for the better.

next day i wake up and everything is normal again.

what is it? low or high e2?
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>>42660213
How do you deal with this... I've felt lonely before, but in a horny/desperate way... Not in the way that either a guy or a girl could fulfill
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>>42660256
you jus cray
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>>42660213
I'm crying so fucking hard right now, I don't think I've ever cried like this in my life... I'm just ready to kill myself. I've never been happy in my life, and nothing has ever filled the void for me. In the last 10 years I've been searching for something that doesn't exist... Nobody ever cared about me how I thought they would, I thought I would eventually meet someone who could make me feel good about myself. I've wasted my life away expecting something to happen to me...
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>>42660256
I get the same but my bond for my gf is still strong, not in the same loving way but more like "shes my property and im gonna fuck her brains and mark my teritory"
like its more like youre becoming feral, primal instincts setting in or something like that, thats the best way i could describe it atleast

>>42660266
>How do you deal with this... I've felt lonely before, but in a horny/desperate way... Not in the way that either a guy or a girl could fulfill

lots of BDSM and crazy sex, like "oil my muscles up in your squirt" crazy

and as i stated in a post a little bit above, im about to be put on a leash and led like a slutty puppy in a strangercuties apartment next weekend

find that release that works for you
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>>42659844
Bimbs I remember you posting your diet a while back, mix of IF and PSMF. Can't seem to find it. Mind reposting?
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>>42660314
thats just the depression talking, and you gotta get that its not the real you thinking all those things
i relate so hard to what youre saying but trust me when i say it gets better one way or another

first thing to do is to cut out people and stuff that dont make you happy, that you feel you have to put on a different persona to be around, surround yourself with people like yourself, i bet you got someone from the gym you atleast say "hi" to whenever youre both there

same with job or hobbies, if you aint enjoying it like you should, why the f are you doing it

youre stronger than this we all know it
and i know how much a quick peptalk is needed sometimes

also go check your bloods

stay away from weed, itll feel nice to the beginning but itll make things 100 times worse, trust me on that one
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>>42660314
I never had a friend or anything worth living for till i was 24 also virgin only thing i had was a decent job and my wow account. I took a long look at my live and had 2 options. End it right there or start over.
Moved to another city enrolled at a university and did some shitty part time jobs. Now i have 4 "hide the body no questions asked" true friends and out of nowhere i started a meaningfull relationship with the most amazing girl.
I am 29 now, moral of the storry its never to late it takes a long time and a lot of sacrifices and it gets worse before it gets better but in the end it works out
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>>42660368
>>42660387
Thanks anons, I'm going to try to go back to sleep. I'm probably just worn out by the insomnia. I hope people are good to you guys, it's hard to find people who give a damn.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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What are your favourite steroids, guys? I'm trying to find an alternative to tren. I just can't handle how crazy it makes me.
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>>42660522
just go test + deca
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>>42660522
try DHB instead, S23 should also be good. Other than that all I can think of as an alternative is superdrol, but you cant run it for that long.
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>>42652036
>not posting the emotional heem after the physical heem
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>>42660336
hormones are crazy. It really changed my mind about woman in general and my relation.

I will never forget that my gym buddy used tren for the first time. Just an introvert fella, never talked a lot about himself in general. But then, when he used tren, he came up to me out of the blue and said; i am breaking up with my gf man, i just don't feel like it. He become a whole different person.

Now he's off and apparently they have a kid now.

That's why i can never use tren, i am too prone to the mental side effects.
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>>42660522
Masteron, but not too high. It made me paranoid and suspicious

masteron is quit mild and i even cruise on it on low dose. Makes your dick hard like fucking diamonds.

girls will be begging for that dick
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>>42660651
tfw only got slightly irritable on tren, and thats the worst that happened to me.

Actually, wait, there was one time back in the day I did hdrol with no test base, I ended up with depression and anxiety kek.
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>>42660651
Funny, tren made me want to have sex with 3D again but it was disappointing and I couldn't cum so it made me hate them more after wards. I mean my estrogen was probably out of wack and that's why I couldn't cum but what ever. I love the feeling on tren though. I've always been cocky and full of myself which kind of made me be a dick but with tren it makes me be full of myself with out the cockiness so I get along with people alot more. Once I get back from Japan and get my hormones settled out I'm probably going to run low does tren year round for this reason.
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>>42660749
>depression and anxiety kek.
That happens to me all the time with test and masteron

Probably fucked up e2

>>42661015
>going to run low does tren year round for this reason.
doesn't tren kills your brain cells. Wasn't there some study that proves this?

That's another reason for me to not run tren. I would have nothing left.
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>6k cals of alcohol over the weekend
I dont think letting my self only drink on weekends works

>>42661253
Yeah it does

>>42660098
Only get a daki of your ONE waifu

>>42660314
Daki
Then you have someone to cry to
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>>42661253
For me it was taking a ph with no test base, so everything was at 0
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>>42659589

Hey bro i'm in tokyo too. You on gear atm? I'm thinking about getting some but needles are hard to get. Any tips?
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how the fuck do I avoid going hypo while psmfing?
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>>42661390
Im in tokyo, amazon sells some, domestic source that sells gear sells some but cant link that, and there is another site I think that sells top, nipro, terumo locally.
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>>42655754
>4 weeks
do some shit that will actually have noticeable results in that time like sdrol
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>>42649758
best cat I seen in a long time.
Has that t h i c c strong look
treat him well

Animals can help A LOT with dealing with various shit.
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>>42659037
Having a head injury whilst on cocaine is bad for you
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>>42661412
Would you be willing to send me a link lad? I'd appreciate it greatly: [email protected]
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>>42661459
sent
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>>42661652
>>42661412

Sorry I fucked up and lost the mail, if you can please send it again: [email protected]

Thanks again if you do send it
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had a dog over from a friend a while ago, and it just seemed like it had a case of adhd, always demanding your attention in the most physical of ways, jumping all over the place and licking your face

not that I dislike them that much, but it would too mentally demanding to have a pet that always relies on you in a way like that, unlike cats, who either sleeps in your lap, wants to be petted, or just fucks off for the entirety of the day until it wants to be fed
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>>42661701
>dametrius
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>>42660675
How much mast do you run, and when should you feel it on mast prop? I've been running 100 mg EOD of prop for the last two weeks just for kicks with my test - and besides my prostate suddenly seeming to be slightly swollen, wonky behaviour with my dick seeming to work and not work at random intervals - nothing seems to be happening. I heard it's supposed to make you horny AF
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>>42661253
If you can find studies to this I'll probably reconsider. I heard of tren causing brain fog but I've never experienced this. I was also an alcoholic before I started lifting so obviously I don't care about my brain cells anyway.

>>42661304
Picking one is hard though,
Like Azusa was the first anime girl I said I would ever consider dating on a "30 day Tumblr challenge" I did back in like 2009 but I also said thinking about dating anime girls is weird.

Miku was the first girl I ever said was my waifu

Watanabe You is my dearest 2D to me right now and I can't see that changing anytime soon. She is basically everything I look for in a girl. Also I decided that I'm getting her tattooed on me instead so maybe I should switch my namefag name then?
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>>42661890
I am now running like 125 mg cruise dose. I don't like shorter esthers makes me feel like a pincushion, thus i am using mast-e.

It's really important to run prostate supplements like saw palmetto and pumkin seed oil when you run masteron. It will blow it up like a water balloon. Also good for hair support.

>I heard it's supposed to make you horny AF
It fucking does. The first time i used it i litterly wanted to fuck everything. I also could go on for hours. Cumming and then just go for round 2,3,4 and so on.

>>42661969
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25461682

I am not sure masteron does the same, but it feels like steroids are affecting my memory that's for sure.
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ive dropped to a TRT dose 3 weeks ago and cut out some calories, and i still have the roid look, roid shoulders/fullness.

I hope this remains after my PCT
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>>42662143
>roid shoulders/fullness.
>I hope this remains after my PCT
>roid look
>remains after my PCT

Say the roid look bye bye my friend. Especially when you're on a deficit or low carb diet, you will see the fullness disappear like no other due to glycogen loss. Low carb without steroids is fucking hell

But you can keep some lbm. It's mostly the looks, fullness, glycogen that you will lose.
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>>42662215
will i keep my fullnes and roid look if i'll cruise into infinity?
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>>42662036
>It's really important to run prostate supplements like saw palmetto and pumkin seed oil when you run masteron.
I just picked up a prostate support vitamin - 320 mg saw palmetto, 480 mg pumpkin oil, lycoprene, 55 mcg selenium & 15 mg zinc - I've been taking two a day since Friday and it feels a bit better. I was supposed to inject mast yesterday but I was debating dropping it altogether so I haven't hit it yet.

>It fucking does. The first time i used it i litterly wanted to fuck everything.
I haven't gotten this at all. Zero. My libido has actually tanked a bit. The other day I was hard as fuck going down on my girl, got distracted for two seconds, lost my hard on and couldn't get it back. It's happened a few times since I've started running mast and I don't get it.
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>>42662287
how did she take it?
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>>42661969
>Watanabe You
Please remove azusa from your life
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>>42662215
but if i keep the roid fullness on a natty test dose, why wouldnt i keep it after my PCT?

im ultra high carb year round
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>>42662275
What do you think?

>>42662287
Masteron is known to lower your e2 a bit. Can function as a sort of an ai, but i would not fully depend on it.

Do you run an ai? Could be estrogen related, looking at your signs.


>>42662334
Because steroids pump more glycogen into your muscle which makes it look much fuller?

Glycogen loss is a pain in the ass. It's a mental battle. You never did PCT before? kek

Say those boulder shoulders and trap fullness goodbye. They can never be achieved natty.
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>>42662307
She knows I roid and I told her my hormones were a bit fucky lately, but it still didn't feel great.
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>>42662419
Yeah, I heard that - I actually felt better when I upped my AI a little, to almost crackly joints territory - so I'm not sure what it's all about. It's pretty bizarre. I'm debating dropping the mast (because at this point I think it could be bunk), bumping test up to blast levels for a few weeks, then coming down to cruise to hopefully 'reset' things.
I should probably get bloods done, kek
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>>42662419
>Because steroids pump more glycogen into your muscle which makes it look much fuller?

but masT, im on a TRT dose right now. like 100mg per week. I literally have natural test levels right now, and i look the same i did 3 months ago on a 250mg cruise.

doesnt make sense to me
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So if I start roids like 500mg of test is there an actual risk of becoming "too big" if my goal is some arbitrary aesthetic in my mind or can I just stop working out x muscle and it will stay there or will it balloon
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>First test cycle coming to it's end
>Contemplating just turning it into BnC for the rest of my life

Pros:
>I get to keep my gains
>PCT sucks ass
>Maybe I'll get to die early

Cons:
>Probably won't get to have kids

Which is fine since I'll probably die alone anyway.
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Is it true a lose DNP dose will keep your gains when you come off?

I know it sounds random af, but i read some "scientific" article about it, with legit claims as to why a low dose DNP dose can save your gains
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>>42662495
Do you know what happens when you go into PCT? Your test levels will drop down to that of a little girl. And after that it will never be the same as with 100mg + your own test levels.

>>42662439
Could be, try another source. You should really feel mast, i really doubt that masteron doesn't work for you otherwise it would be e2 related.


>>42662515
>>Probably won't get to have kids
Debatable.

Many bodybuilders have kids this days(arnold, roelly winklaar, ronnie coleman etc etc etc). I have even read some stories about a man getting his fertility back with hcg after being infertile for one year.

Just keep in mind that hcg and hmg only work when you were fertile before steroids.
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>>42662499
even if you did 500mg for an entire year you still wouldnt be too big.

one cycle is nothing
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>>42658336
its in your head
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I'm a skeleton and I want to stop being a skeleton. I've been eating 2500+ calories per day and indeed I don't look that skeletal now, but my lifts are not that good and I'm fucking tired so I want to cheat.

Guide me boys, what kind of cycle should I do?
The guy I know recommended me this:

- Stanozolol
- Nandrolone
- Tamoxifen
- Gonadotropins

I have no idea what I'm doing here and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna die but I'm tired of being "the skinny guy" so might as well die with dignity vomiting blood and shit.

Also do you inject these shits on your leg? I'm scared of needles.
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>>42663038
>that stack for a first cycle
sounds perfect, don't you dare read that sticky. do whatever this guy recommends and report back in six months when you're a mass monster
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>>42662495
do you understand how long it takes for your test levels to come back after you come off? the pct is 4 weeks but it's not gonna be back to normal in 4 weeks. it can take months.
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>>42663068
By the sticky you mean the reddit post? I've been reading it but it hardly has any cycle recommendations. Don't bully me man, I know you have the roid rage, I want the roid rage too. Let's be roid ragers together
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>>42660314
Do it you fucking pussy, off yourself
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>>42663093
>I've been reading it but it hardly has any cycle recommendations
you are a stupid person

welcome aboard, enjoy your friend's recommendation!
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>>42663102
He's not my friend, he's just a guy selling it that probably wants to scam me for being retarded. That's why I come here.

Is it really that bad? Am I going to die if I do all that?
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>>42663112
You're gonna die no matter what. But your "friend" is a retard and that stack won't really help you put on mass. Read the reddit wiki, it tells you exactly what to do.
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>>42648480
I use a 26 gauge with interchangeable heads, usually just draw with 26 guage I change out every couple months. One day I'm in a hurry and forget to change the draw needle, literally spent 2 minutes trying to get it to break the skin before I realize what im doing
Don't worry bro your not the first
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>>42663038
do 500deca 500tren and 250 test just to see what happens
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>>42663228
what

you have a dedicated drawing needle...? and it's a 26g...?
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>>42663093
>>42663287
No roid rage papi, I think that cycle is perfect. You can also cut the cycle time in half so you don't have to do as many spooky needles if you double the dosage per week and cut out the AI. Frontload with 400 dbol ED for the first week, and you can get the cycle down to 4 weeks if your diet is on point.
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>>42660314
>I'm just ready to kill myself. I've never been happy in my life, and nothing has ever filled the void for me. In the last 10 years I've been searching for something that doesn't exist... Nobody ever cared about me how I thought they would, I thought I would eventually meet someone who could make me feel good about myself. I've wasted my life away expecting something to happen to me...
EVERY
DAY
OF
MY
LIFE
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>>42663038
>I'm a skeleton and I want to stop being a skeleton. I've been eating 2500+ calories per day and indeed I don't look that skeletal now, but my lifts are not that good and I'm fucking tired so I want to cheat.

most honest post of the week

>>42663092
yeah im aware
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>>42663038
>2500+ calories per day
Eat more
It takes time and food
Steroids wont help
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have made a pretty big discovery. raw ground beef together with soy sauce is apparently p-r-e-t-t-y good.
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>>42660314
if you cares you could set up some life goals to give your breath worth
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>>42663716
It's called tartare, it's dope as shit. Try it with Worcester sauce as well, it's nice.
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How much protein should I get based on mass while on a 500mg test + dbol?
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>>42663793
Pretty much the same as when you were natty.
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>>42663793
about 20 ounces of raw ground beef
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>>42657573
play stupid games .. win stupid prizes.
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>>42661429
Thanks. I certainly will.

I know right. Animals make me more happy than people do, seriously. It's even scientifically proven that they can reduce stress.
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>>42660336
>oil my muscles in your pee

cute
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>>42661701
sent again
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>>42663038
eat 3500. train hard for 2 years. read the fucking sticky
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>>42657573
LGD-4033 or LGD-3303 if you can get it.

Otherwise wouldnt recommend.

>>42657786
2/10 making me reply. You can take any oral on its own, but it may not be worth feeling like shit.
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guys, is fibro/cfs real or do I really need to be on TRT? my T was 350ng/dl before my uro said to get on. only symptoms I've been dealing with are muscle fatigue, joint pain, and depression.

I just want to kill myself, I can't work out without getting horrible body pain for a week.
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>>42664779
Because animals are more then just empty husks trying to use you for their own gain.
Love both cats and dogs, nothing beats a good evening on the couch with the dog one one side and the cat purring on the other.
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>>42648023
>>42647976
this will happen

>>42648451
he looks like a good friend. enjoy him

>>42649606
mirin/10

>>42654098
why would you add clen? that seems nonsensical and risk to your heart for no reward

>>42657796
no
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>>42653432
Not really. Tbol used to be amazing for passing tests. Low enough dose wouldn't cause complete shutdown while also giving you a definite advantage. Undetectable a week after you stop (previously).

Lots of Eastern Bloc athletes on tbol, stanzolol and anavar.
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Ran 300mg tren e for 4 weeks. Add in tren a 350mg on top of that for 6 more weeks.

No issues at all with prolactin sides. Not fake though, couldn't fucking sleep at all and lost fat while eating total garbage. Not to mention the last 4 weeks I was definitely making some odd tren decisions.


Few months later now, plan to run 250/300 test/Deca, and run 350mg tren a for 5-8 weeks as a "Kickstarter". But literally 3 days into the protocol and legit my nipples were fucking milky.

What in the fuck. Dick works fine. Nipples didn't hurt or itch or anything. Just saw some dried film next to the nipple, squeezed it to confirm that I am in fact lactating.


The Deca should barely be in my system at all. Why in the fuck is LESS 19-nor compound making me milk. Fucking hell.
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>>42656414

This is your 1st/2nd cycle, you didn't get anywhere the natty limit, excessive bloat, bulking too hard. Probably some combination of .

Please tell me this is at least your 3rd-4th the cycle if doing those doses
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>>42660196
Literally check your ai. I get the worst feels when high e2, and they seem like yours.

Low e2 is much better. You don't really care about much at all on low e2, it's much easier to deal with life shit. Then when things are together in your life you stop keeping your aromatase so low. Suddenly your personality comes back.
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>>42665781
lol at the idea that 500mg test + 50mg dbol is 3rd cycle tier
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>>42665862
If you want long term steady gains and care for your health, yeah

Or do the bostin Lloyd unending escalation of doses to make up for lazy diet and training.
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>>42665781
>500mg test & dbol
>3rd cycle tier
>Not just a good 1st cycle
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>>42665876
this is dumb as hell

what do you think first and second cycles look like?
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I just finished 8 weeks of deca+test+sdrol bulking. Yesterday I switched the deca for tren E and I'm going to do an 8-week tren cut, then get back on deca for another 4 weeks and then PCT. My reasoning was that I was getting sorta fat on the deca bulk (220lbs ~18%bf currently) and I didn't feel like I could bulk any more without getting fat and eating until I puke every day. So I want to lose the fat and then bulk some more. Already lost 10lbs of water weight in the past 2 days just by not eating like a pig.
>>
How do I get as defined as an Egyptian god?
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>>42666089
>4weeks deca
>pct after deca
Oh boi did we skip ester 101?
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>>42648411
Worldstar has better fights
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>>42666145
500mg divinity
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>>42656502
Fuck really? I have thst stuff, what does mucana taste like?
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m8s, what contributes to pip? I think my test is using shitty oil or something. I get nasty pip for 3+ days after I pin with it but none with my deca.

I need new test yeah?
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>>42666750
Solvents used in the brew and ester. More solvents or shorter ester = more pip.
>>
Would a tbol only cycle be worth it. Don't want to inject test cuz I'm afraid of speeding up my norwooding, bloating and aging/permanent changes to my face it might have.
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>>42666976
no
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>>42666976
fuck off idiot
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>>42666191
what do you mean by this? Obviously I'm gonna take a 2-week break between the last deca and the PCT. And yes I know I won't "feel" the deca much in just 4 weeks but IMO it'll work whether or not I feel it, the oil is still getting de-esterified and everything. Pls explain
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>>42667046
>2 weeks gap before pct
>deca
oh okay
>>
>>42667058
are you being sarcastic? because that's literally what the /r/steroids wiki says you should do
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>>42667462
nope it doesn't
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>>42667462
Spoonfeed inc, open wide
Deca is an steroid linked with an ester with a half of about 15days depending on who you ask.
That means after 2 weeks a concentration of 500mg is still active with 250mg.
As we know exogen sources of steroids / hormones shut down our own production and as long as enough hormones are present your body dosnt give a fuck about producing new hormones.
Starting pct 2 weeks after deca does nothing cause the body believes there is no need.
Only after 4-5 half lifes the supressing effect is neglectable.
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Hey /fraud/, what should be an ideal weight for a 5'6 manlet? How big can one get at that height?
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Will test and dbol give me a better ass
please say yes
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>>42647976

he's gonna make huge gains but then probably get fucked and get diabetes and/or get a serious injury
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>>42667656
working out will give you a better ass
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>>42667474
>>42667551
oh wait, I get it now. What I meant was at the end I do 4 weeks deca+test, then 2 weeks test, then 2 weeks nothing, then PCT. That's what I did in my last cycle and what my chart for this cycle says, just got confused when describing the last part. Thanks for helping tho. Still isn't 4-5 half lives, but it's literally what the steroids wiki says, about 2 half-lives
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/examples#wiki_intermediate_bulk_cycle
>>
>>42653432
>>42653378
Athletes interested in performance enhancing. Which tbol will do, also especially don't want to start putting on weight for telltale signs of ped usage, especially for boxers who need to make weight class.
>>
>>42666976
What you want is LGD-4033, may have some bloating, LGD-3303 is better for that but may be harder to find.

Tbol won't really help add much mass/size which is what most people are after.
>>
>>42667551
That's kind of annoying. Makes me wonder if I should switch to a short ester test a few weeks before ending my cycle
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>page 10
>no post in 3 hours
where are you people
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>>42670051
Fucking bitches and making money, the usual.
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>wake up
>pin time
>prepare surgical instruments
>syringe looks kind of foggy
>pin cap also got foggy
>get new syringe and pin
>load up chemicals
>stick the needle in your butt
>stings like a motherfucker
>it's hard to push it in
>pin halfway in but it takes too much pressure to push it bit more
>babort
>very dark blood comes out
>change pin
>find another spot
>still hard to penetrate
>get it all the way in
>inject illegal substance by applying pressure to the plunger
>2 syringes, 4 pins, 3 alcohol swabs and 40 minutes later you are finally done
i fucking hate pinning glutes
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>>42670872
Pin quads and delts. Never pin glutes. Too many cramps
>>
>>42671028
I don't care about leg pip that much becasue you can always skip legs so it's not a big deal but im seriously scared to pin my delts. If there will be any pip it can ruin my workouts for a week
>>
>>42665064
best feeling ever brah. Ideally i also want a dog, but fucking wage cuckery fucks me over
>>42667656
Good fat distribution and training glutes

I already had a really big ass without any form of training, just fat distribution.
>>
>>42671235
Dogs aren't that expensive.

What breed do you want to get?
We've got a mechelse shepherd, she's a good girl.
>>
>>42671402
No i meant i have no time for it, since i work full-time.

My cat was almost cost more than a dog, but a cat knows where to shit and a dog is too stupid for it and needs time outside.

I love Shepards. When i lived at my parents home we had a black mechelse Shepard. He was my best buddy.

Ideally i want Tibetan mastiff, husky or a German Shepard
>>
How much adex should I run on a first cycle (test 500mg/week). I'm thinking of starting at .25mg/eod and working my way up, but it seems like most people spout .5/eod.

Bonus question: how the fuck do I cut up a pill that's already impossibly small?
>>
is it possible to run test only and not get bloated if your estrogen and diet is kept in check?
>>
>>42671460
Why does this question literally appears here every day?

NOBODY KNOWS. It's personal, some people need more some need less. Everyone on this planet is DIFFERENT

and you already answered your question yourself; start low and work your way up from there.

>>42671476
Yes

Carbs makes me bloated mostly.
>>
>>42671447
Gf works 20 hours max so she takes care of the girl.

You have some good taste in dog breeds.
We want a Saarlooswolfhond next.

>>42671488
Carbs are so good but make me look like total shit.
>>
>>42647691
McGregor lost because he gassed after round six just like everyone predicted. Mayweather won because he held back and went for the kill in the final rounds like everyone predicted. McGregor was dead on his feet after round 9 and the ref stoppage was absolutely appropriate. Mayweather was the better fighter. It's done, move on now.
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>>42671526
Yeah my gf is mostly with me in the weekends. For me it's also better that way.

That's also a good looking dog.

I am currently carb cycling and everyday when i carb up i look like a bloated potato. But without carbs you can never achieve that crazy fullness. I look like a deflated balloon without carbs, but way more defined.
>>
Currently on my 2nd week of clen+test e,also have dbol but not many and ordering one bottle of test e and dbol right now :^)
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>>42671655
>dbol and clen
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>>42671740
im cycling clen before and after dbol brah
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>>42655754

>4 uker
Lykke til med resultatene m8, kjop heller på hushboard.biz
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>>42671606
Defined > bloated but big eveytime

Also give me that cat its adorable.
>>
>>42671606
Do you realise that you now have to post at least 1pic a day of this little bugger?

He has that "i am not sure what that is but i am gonna kill it" look
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>>42671845
Yes true, but less glycogen could be a mental battle to deal with. When i came off my test blast + high carb and went to low carb and low test + mast it looked like i had lost all kind of muscles.

I look my best in the beginning of my blast when i still look cut and add more test and carbs. Without carbs my chest looks really flat and non-existent like pic related. More carbs really make a huge difference is fullness in that department for me.

No, he's my only friend in life.

>>42671968
Only thing he now kills is my sofa and my fucking toes when i am at sleep.
>>
I want to try mast again but last time I did I think lots of my hair fell off
>>
connor mcdonalds fight was stopped early. I wanted to see more. Irish cunt was still ducking and weaving and his bf JK told him it was a recovery round.
>>
>>42672210
>niggering
no one cares
>>
>>42672257
wtf is niggering?
>>
>>42672173
ketoconazole shampoo
>>
>>42672300
the act of carrying out a nigger action or hobby
>>
>>42672350
like body building?
>>
>>42672375
is body building more common among niggers than whites? no. think again.
>>
>>42672049
Cutting sucks cause it feels like you lose muscle while that isnt the casr at all.
Makes me paranoid as fuck.

Glad you found a friend. Take good care of him.
>>
>>42672454
I got the god given gift to get fat and lose strength while cutting.
>>
>>42672603
Please don't ever teach me that skill.
>>
>>42659037
Rich died from a cocaine overdose though which led him to fall and smash his head.
>>
>>42672454
Cutting without steroids is just insane.

I remember when i did low carb natty, everyone was bullying me that i lost gains and looked skinny af. Was really terrible.
>>
Natty here. I have a question that is not answered in the wiki. What kind of routines are you guys doing on gear?
If you wouldn't mind, could you post your routines so I could get some kind of frame of reference for volume and intensity for during a cycle.
I'm aiming for maximum hypertrophy but also as much strength gains as possible on a hypertrophy focused routine.
>>
>>42673210
I do 5x5
>>
>>42673210
whatever you did as a natty that worked for you

there's no miracle steroids routine that won't work for natties (except the well memed gvt). PPL is good, u/l splits are good, 5/3/1 with a crap ton of accessories is good...
>>
>>42673386
>>42673393
But wouldn't you make more gains on a cycle if you upped volume to a level that would be considered overtraining for a natty?
I guess I'll do 5/3/1 BBB but add even more accessories than suggested
>>
Guys, im running out of gear and im pinning test e right now. My source guy says he has test cyp on hand. Should i stick with E or it doesn't matter?
>>
>>42673177
>Cutting without steroids is just insane.
Expand on this I wanna hear more
>>
>>42673210
Frequency works for me.

I like doing 10-15 rep range, I tend to stick at the same weight for a while and then put it up, when I exceed the rep range I put it up.

I also can do bench daily with this method, followed by incline, maybe dome db bench, chest press machine etc. When I do take two days off of it, strength tends to go up quite quickly. Though Ill probably cycle to lower rep ranges for a bit to get numbers up, so I can do more weight at higher rep ranges more quickly.


I like to do the compound lift, followed by an isolation machine on the same target area if I am focusing on that area.
>>
>>42673393
>natty
>worked

heh
>>
>>42673797
Why do you wanna hear?

Glycogen loss is just crazy on low carb and without steroids. Like you never lifted in your life, that's how it felt.

Everyone at my gym said that i looked skinny af and lost some gains. Really made me depressed af.
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>>42673947
Not that guy you were talking to, but how to avoid this once you come off a cycle? How to keep as much as possible of the on cycle gains?
>>
>>42674019
Well, youre not gonna keep the excess glycogen and water from your roids. Youll keep them muscle increase.
>>
>>42674060
Yeah, I don't mind losing that roid look as long as I keep the muscle and strength gains. It's not anyone does only one cycle, I'll be back on later.
>>
>>42674019
Stay dieting and training the same as you did on cycle.

But that steroid look will def disappear. Imo you can still keep a decent amount of lbm. I kept all my cycles gains. But the loss of water and glycogen weight makes it look like you lost gains.

Of course you got the natty limit, but i bet most of you don't even get to the natty limit with steroids.
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