What's the ultimate 4 times a week routine? 5/3/1 ULxUL PPxPP?

PPxPPxx obviously alternating chest/shoulders volume/intensity

>>42644428
noob guy here
what is PPxPP?
googled it, didn't find anything

>>42644454

Push/pull but without the legs

Cos girls don't give a fuck about legs brah xo

>>42644460
yes we do
Balance is important

>>42644468

just chuck in some squats now and again desu

>>42644460
I don't know much about this, but wouldn't it be bad in terms of health in the long run to have a lot of muscle mass in your upper body, and a weak, fragile lower body supporting all that muscle?

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>>42644468

>>42644428
Best 4 day routine is:
LUxFxUx
Upper is heavy bench and pullups, some OHP and rows, arms ets
Lower is heavy squats and deadlifts
Full is heavy squats, light bench and moderate deadlift variation
>Legs twice a week
>Bench thrice a week
>Train only 4 days a week, not 5
Can't go wrong.

>a rippletits drone bragging about his leg press
>l e g p r e s s
That picture is 100% fantasy.

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>>42644454
>>42644460
IMO legs don't need a dedicated day, I'm not a bodybuilder. But I add some quad work to Push day and I pull sumo so my hams and glutes get a good workout.
PPxPPxx

PULL
Day1: Deadlifts 4x5, 1x5+
Day2: Barbell rows 4x5, 1x5+
3x8-12 Pulldowns
3x8-12 seated cable rows/T-bar rows
1x8, 1x20 Shrugs
5x15-20 face pulls
4x8-12 hammer curls/Preacher curls
3x20 Calf raises

PUSH
Day1: Bench press 4x5, 1x5+
Day2: Overhead press 4x5, 1x5+
Day1: Overhead press 3x8-12
Day2: Bench press 3x8-12
3x8-12 incline dumbbell press
3x8-12 Skullcrushers SS 3x15-20 lateral raises
3x8-12 triceps pushdowns SS 3x15-20 lateral raises
Day1: Squats 3x5
Day2: Leg press 3x15-20

Core-daily
Hyperextensions 2x15
Crunches 2x15
Knee raises 2x15

>>42644428
No one on /fit/ cares about leg press. Image is bullshit, also UL UL if you're lifting 4 days is pretty good.

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>>42644468

>>42645902
desu as long as you have like 1-2 heavy leg movements and maybe an accessory twice a week they'll be big enough. I literally only do squat and floor pull variations twice a week and my legs are 26"

>>42644460
squats on push,

>>42644428
Squats/Bench/Dead/Full(bench and squat)