/plg/ - powerlifting general

Do I have diabetes? My cum smells like cotton candy.
I have no intention of tasting it so I am not sure it it tastes sweet.

I could perhaps post it in a container if any of you lads want to try and let me know?

Okay I tasted it anyway

It tasted salty. Is that bad?

>>42636305
Send that shit my way senpai

>>42636345
You're a doctor right?

>>42636378
Yes, I'll toss your load in my ass erectometer and tell you the exact composition

>eyeslee bought a 4chan pass and doesn't even post here anymore

I almost feel bad.

>>42636814
He posts here.
So does trappy still

that's good cause trappy makes me happy :)

When running project momentum, does "X down sets" mean you pick a weight where on the last down set you hit the same RPE as the top set, or does it mean you progressively lower the weight each down set while maintaining RPE?

>>42637234
>millionaire
>can't afford a big enough monitor to screenshot the ingredients in a visible resolution

Shiggy

>>42637264
>thinking I screenshotted that image

I simply saved someone elses image

>>42637286
What's your honest opinion on poor piana? I wasn't a die hard fan, but I am definitely heart broken.

is being a piana fan and being sad for his death a new meme of /fit/ ?

>>42637291
he needed to die

>>42637309
We all do eventually, but how do you feel that he died so young? Traffic honestly.

>>42637312
no I mean he needed to die then and there

>>42637316
I don't follow? Do you think he was needed by some higher power? You never striker me as someone religious tBh

>>42637328
No I mean he was clearly falling apart and dying in front of our eyes, physically and mentally for quite some time

compare and contrast the stark difference between then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KDXVro4OvE and now

It was time for him to get KTFO especially in light of all the recent events with the drugs and nigger rants etc, his time was due, the reaper came and collected his shit

>>42637348
That's actually a very intelligent comment and I completely see your point.

What strikes me, after reviewing that video, is that he looks 25, however when I watched his bigger by the day series, he looked aged.
What concerns me even more, is I'm beginning to look like he did near his death.

lol

I am in love with a trip here but I'm afraid they'll be circumcised

Why are the gzcl programs discussed so little? They look really fun. The only downside is that they are not so easy to understand.

Can you even recover from the volume? What would be a good way to boost work capacity so I can do Jacked&tan 2.0 over the winter without killing myself?

>>42637182

Way I understand it - (repeats) you keep the same weight on the bar as your prescribed RPE set until sets are done unless you hit @10 then you stop whatever set you hit @10 on.

Load drop, you drop the weight with the intention of maintaining the RPE at what it's been prescribed at. That may not necessarily mean dropping the weight every set.

eg x4@8, plus 3 down sets (load drop) could be;
100kgx4 @8
95kg x4 @8, [email protected]
90kg x4@8

Because the first 95kg set was @8 your next set may still be @8 so you need to try it again to see where it's at, because it's very unlikely you're gonna hit it once @8 then have it immediately jump to @10 or something. Once you've been using RPE for a while and you've developed the skill, you'll get a feel for judging how the next set will probably go from the bar speed, RPE etc of your sets.

Make sense?

>>42638193
I already know how RPE works with fatigue %s. I want to know if it's not that. With repeats you repeat the same weight until your RPE increases by 1 when the program says 5% fatigue. With load drop you drop the weight by 5% and repeat until you hit original RPE. With rep drop you repeat until you drop the reps by 1 or 2 at the same RPE. But the program doesn't say any of those things. It does however include a lot of down sets that are programmed pretty much as "drop the weight by 20% and do 3x8" or something similar.

>>42638183

It's very monkey see monkey do around here, and none of the monkeys have seen GZCL yet. That's why Rippetoe shit still gets advised still, because it's just a constant feedback loop of 'Do SS and eat more'.

>The only downside is that they are not so easy to understand

This is a massive aspect too, it requires a bit of thinking instead of just listening to the monkey already doing it.

>>42638228
The one I'm looking at currently specifies load drop or repeats for the down sets.

>>42638262
Ah I didn't see that somehow. Cheers.

>>42638252
Do you have any experience with them? Or have a sound standing on the method? It seems intuitively intruiging. And since I tend to get depressed during the winter, a demanding program is usually a good idea.

I'm used to 3/week full body workouts, so 4 days is a stretch, but should be manageable. I tried 5/3/1 for a few month and hated it. Jacked and Tan looks like a non-shitty 5/3/1 version but the volume is insane... How would you get accustomed to it?

Should I be adding 5 lbs every week on nuckols 3x int bench? Sometimes I just can't handle the AMAP @ 80% with enough reps, it can get fucking difficult

>>42638252
Actually it's because of the 1x/week frequency on the main lifts. We've all seen GZCL, one of the programs in the sticky is based on it and everyone's read 5/3/1 which is fairly similar.

>>42638373
>can hit the required reps every time
>sometimes it's hard
>should I stop progressing because it's hard?

Are you serious or am I interpreting what you said wrong?

>>42638398
I can hit the required reps on every day 1 and 2 except sometimes w3d1.

When it comes to the AMAP sets on day 3, I sometimes get fewer reps than are required for an increase, meaning that I can't increase my max by 5 lbs. I'd say I can increase maybe once every 2 weeks on average. I've never got enough reps to be able to increase by 10 lbs.

>>42638388
5/3/1 is really low volume and really only becomes a program with joker and FSL sets. At this point you could just call it: Do whatever you feel like with a compound movement. GZCL usually has a demanding and thought-through expectation of sets and reps and is brutally high volume. They are not alike at all. Plus, ist gets more specific towards the later microcycles. You can just choose the main movements as t2-movements, too. Which would have you at 2*/week frequency.

I get that it is not overly specific for Powerlifting and if your only aim is increasing your 1RM (which is assumable since we are on /plg/) there might be better programs. But /plg/ has become the only non-retarded strength-training-place on /fit/.

If I want to add size, boost my work capacity and get stronger in different rep ranges with a fun program: It's good, right?

>>42638358

I've not ran them, I've been programming for myself for years, but it's easy to see the principles behind it once you understand them.

> How would you get accustomed to it?
Run an intro block where you drop the total reps by 15-25%. So say 6x5 is 30 total reps - drop 20ish% reps = 24/25 reps either 6x4 or 5x5.

What you need to do is play around with things and don't be afraid to get things wrong.

>>42638429
That's approximately what I had in mind. Start with the first mesocycle and only one t2 and two t3 movements to get used to it, and then restart the program with two t2 and two to three t3 movements and run it through this time. Sounds about right? Would you still reduce the reps?

>>42636847
proof

How detrimental is a little grip work at the end of every session if I lift in a ULxUL format?

Thinking of just trying one arm hangs for like 3 sets of amrap, probably only like 5-10s right now but I'll just keep doing amrap until a minute.

>>42638388
There's plenty of lifts that are one-step variations from the comp lifts in there. So long as you're hitting comp lifts once a week and the rest is close variation you're fine.

This all depends on lifter goals, if you're wanting to be the most competitive powerlifter ever then you'll probably need more targeted specificity, but for a guy that just likes to lift, might compete for fun one day, coming off something basic like SS or 5/3/1 it's absolutely fine.

>>42638448
That should work. Honestly it might require some trial and error or it might work fine just jumping in feet first at the deep end, all depends on how you handle the volume/frequency. So going with that will give you a good starting point to assess.

>>42638576
I just enjoy getting main lift practice in.

>>42638594
Thanks for your help! Since I'm working like 50 h/week I have to see how much volume I can handle, but that's trial and error - as you said.

I'll create a more specific plan including movement selection for the different tiers and might post it here sometimes the next days. Are you a regular trip here? I've been coming to /plg/ since at least a year regularly and haven't seen you around. Do you usually post with a different name?

how does one program a whole macrocycle?

>>42638645
By programming meso- and microcycles. Increase intensity and decrease volume towards the end.

>>42638677
so one just puts together some various programs (mesocycle) together that seem interesting to run together , and combine them into a macrocycle?

>>42638416
if you 'fail' w3d1 , shouldnt you keep the same max next week as well?

>>42638713
No. But it really doesn't matter if you don't compete.

Is more volume always better? I ask because I have found two routines I like the look of, GZCLP and Nsuns531LP.

The upper body volume in nsuns looks good but there are a lot of squat reps, like 50 in a day of 60-95% intensity.

GZCL is just 5x3 at probably like 85% at its main squat day.

Is 15 sets of higher intensity better than 50 reps of varying? I'm not sure what to do, I like squatting with lower reps like that but there's less volume.

>>42638737
Yes and no. The answer is to figure out what works for you.

>>42638737
15 reps* woops

>>42638737
In my experience, squats don't need that much volume. Upper body lifts however, do.

>>42638416
Try harder, it's easy as fuck. 80% should always be at least 10 reps on amraps

>>42638745
So if you can recover from both, which is better on paper? I always see more volume=better but I don't know how that works when the sets are varying intensity.

I tried both and there's not much difference between it really. I prefer 5x3 instead of 9 sets just mentally and heavier squat work feels like it actually does something but the downside I guess is that progression would be based off of completing every set whereas the nsuns progression is just based on a single 1+ set near the start.

>>42638839
Yeah the upper body volume at the moment is very nice but I don't really feel the benefit with more submax squat volume but maybe I'm stupid and don't notice. Feels best heavier when I actually have to actively try to keep good positions. Might just do lower body programming like gzcl and nsuns upper.

>>42638877
Whichever you respond beter to.

>>42638877
GZCLP
Day 1 5x3
Day 2 3x10

nSuns
Day 1 5/3/1+/3/3/3/5/5/5
% 75/85/95/90/85/80/75/70/65

Day 2 5/3/3/5/7/4/6/8
% 50/60/70/70/70/70/70/70

This is what's given for squat for each. Is there a way to evaluate overall work or something because even though there's more sets, there's only few 'hard' sets?

Just finished a Sheiko program, did all the assistance and nothing more
It's shit

>>42638999
>t. 300 wilks

>>42639016
I did the under 80kg with sub 300 wilks and put 30kg on my squat without finishing the last 3 weeks.

>>42639024
>sub 300 wilks
Oh so you just did linear progression, but for some reason decided to do sheiko with it. :thinking:

>>42639042
I'm not the guy who said it was shit and this was a while ago but yes and it was fun and I improved my technique dramatically.

so I implemented RPE with TM today. Just did VD basicly

so first set was @6.5 i kept going until @9, i remembered that there should be a time limit I was trynig to get 7% fatigue so i guess it said 25-30min but I did it under 17min

I basicly ended up doing 6 sets of 5 with 3 min rest it was pretty challenging normally i rest 5-10min. This is my first time implementing RPE with anything so im excited to see if this will work, I was stalling on TM until some guy here said implement RPE and then I read on the subject it made a lot of sense

>>42639132
>normally i rest 5-10min
Why is everyone here such a gde

>>42639151
Everyone that does TM is fat.

>>42639157
oh makes sense retards would chose retarded programming

>>42639132
>5-10 minutes rest

are you having an asthma attack in between sets or something?

you dont improve work capacity if you wait til youre completely fresh

>>42639151
>>42639242
its because i talk to some people around me in the gym and 5-10min go by everytime

>>42639157
>>42639219
no bully pls why is TM retarded

>>42639265
TM is the go to program for people who are afraid of doing work. If you're fresh from resting you should be able to do 5x5 @ 75% with like 3 minute rests, maybe 5 if you're unfit. It's like doing sets of 3 with 80%, your first set is literally RPE 6.

anybody give shot to this kizen training stuff?

>>42639277
well I basicly did that and ended up doing 6 sets of 5

i just wasnt used to the restnig time but it was doable. I probally should be timing my rest from now on. I hope this RPE stuff works with TM i really need some progress man

>>42639265
focusing on your training would be a huge help to progress

ive got dynamic effort today which is
8x2 SSB pause squat
10x1 deficit deads
5x5 suspended GM
2x20 Bent Row

it will take me 40-50 minutes like it always does, my entire session is less than your rest periods

>>42639296
Just switch program. Why would you keep grinding the same program out?

>>42639298
do you use like a stopwatch to gauge time or do you flatout just guess and go by feel

>>42639316
2-3 sets per song, average song is 3-4 minutes, i havent had a session last longer than an hour in months, even max effort sessions which is 4x1 above 90%

>>42639315
honestly because i like the simplicity

what else do you suggest I do? My squats are really what suck

>>42639323
C6w

>>42639316
I just go with how I feel but most of the time it's no longer than 2-3 mins. I just get bored when I rest for long times and I feel like I'm wasting time at the gym.

>>42639328
wasnt that program a meme or somethnig? or did I get memed by that it is a meme

>>42637182
If it says x5@8 plus 3 down sets (repeat) That means you keep the same weight on the bar and do 3 more sets. He explains this in a few of his youtube videos. The "RTScoachingcalls" channel.

>>42639342
It's bad for bench good for squats

>>42639151
>i rest 5-10min
It takes me less than 10 minute from the minute I walk into the gym until I have 400 pounds on the bar for squat, 300 for bench, and 500 for deadlift

Your conditioning must be terrible

>>42639346
>>42639342

C6W for squats, something else 2x week for dl for 6 weeks
Texas 2x for bench/ohp/row

>>42639346
>>42639360
ok thanks if i dont progress on next ID ill guess ill hop over to c6w

what do for deadlifts then?

>>42639360
>texas for bench
Probably not. Also C6w is fine for dl.

>>42638857
What does try harder actually mean? What am I supposed to do better,?

>>42638718
No, maxes are changed only on day 3

>>42639497
if you don't know then you're not trying hard enough

>>42639497
Trying harder is a skill like grit

It means you're putting in a consistent effort to reach your goals

Most guys try to convince himself they're trying hard, but then they pussy out on adding weight to the bar or they skimp on their sleep or they program hop

>>42638933
>>42638938
Guess I'll try it, I hope I don't go backwards. Not sure if it would work well for bench or not, as much as I like nsuns bench, there is no regulation built in so I just keep grinding bench instead of 5x3>6x2>10x1. Might just hop to gzcl completely.

who here /gde/ mentally and physically?

>>42639572
>tfw training so hard im basicly always overtrained
im too tough for my own good i guess its like being a gde in some way

>>42639597

tell us about your max and than we decide

inb4 overtrained at 160kg squat

>>42639612
no i squat 100kg

>>42639613
haha ok raffy

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Could anyone have a look at my squat, again? (Yes I am the guy in the "virgin squat" webm kek)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnGWNdjqtdE&feature=youtu.be
Based on the feedback I got I decided to go with a low bar position, focused on breaking at the knees and hips at the same time and not doing the weird "tucking" thing. I can't go lower than this without buttwink.

>>42639653
4 inches above parallel .

>>42639670
Where do you think the mobility problem lies? Im stretching my calves + using a foam roller currently

>>42639653
It's just an inch or two high, but it's already looking a lot better.

>>42639678
>Im stretching my calves
xdddddddd this is a joke right?

>>42639653
>>42639678
listen up goofball the more you lean forward the greater amount of buttwink you will get period

lowbar is the worst if buttwink is your issue

>>42639653
A lot better. Let your butt wink and then try to fix it after desu. You're still leaning forward at the bottom, ditch the damn plates, they're not doing you any good. You're losing balance if you go all the way down like that with those plates under your heels.

>>42638857
Average is 7 reps. There's literally a thing called "the 80% test" that's been used as a pseudo fibre type test where an average has been established.

This was the basis of this year's Project Momentum.

>>42639653
also candito has a vid where he demonstrates the buttwink issue with the torso lean what i mentioned here >>42639687

watch this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoZWgTrZLd8

rest between sets needs to be as long as it takes until all accumulated fatigue from prev set goes away. each set should be done at maximum capacity.

>>42639698
Then how come literally every good program has you do 80% amraps for 10 reps?

>>42639653
Film a set from the front, and a front/side set from 45 degrees. See if your knees are tracking out over your feet and you're opening your hips up.

>>42639653

THE VIRGIN QUATER SQUAT

>>42639653
what so difficult about buying a pair of squat shoes and solve most of your problems?

>>42639717
C6W Week 2 pls go

80% is 7-8 reps in an AMRAP

>>42639693
Alright, thanks. I'll give it a go without plates next time. I unfortunately can't afford weight lifting shoes with an elevated heel currently (unless Maywheater for some reason fucks up big time tonight, in which case Im rich :^) )

>>42639741
Just look at your squat angle at the bottom. You can just tell it would look good if you were slightly tilted back (i.e. your heels weren't raised).

>>42639739
80% is perfectly fine for 4x6 and 10-12 reps on amrap. Please try harder next time.

>>42639717

Because by the time you test in a program you've presumably made progress and '80%' isn't 80% anymore.

I'd question your assertion that all good programs contain AMRAPs though. Especially if you're training for powerlifting.

>>42639758
>I'd question your assertion that all good programs contain AMRAPs though
I think he says that because amraps are just a form of autoregulation

every good program has autoregulation

>>42639753
Found the DYEL

When your max squat is 500, try doing 400x12 and tell me how that goes.

>>42639758
Sorry I don't take fat people's opinions seriously.
>>42639774
Found the GDE. When you try hard maybe one day you can also do it.

>>42639322
enjoy your nogains bro

>>42639364
Try c6w for deads, it might work just fine for you. If it doesn't, maybe pick something from 28 free

>>42639702
>>42639687
Alright. Lowbar seems to be working best for me, but I'll try to keep my torso more upright.

>>42639845
if it works stick to it but watch that candito vid and break at the knees like he demonstrates if you wanna solve the buttwink to some degree

>>42639864
Yeah, I'll have a look at it next time and do what
>>42639721
suggested

>>42639799
>squat and dl prs
>nogains

>>42639903
meme lifts desu

>>42639923

SQUAT
OVERHEAD PRESS
DEADLIFT

only lifts that matter desu

bench is for lazy fucks so out of breath they need to lay down in middle of comp

>>42640003
If you pick OHP over dips for main pressing exercise that's not done lying down you're retarded. You're retarded anyway because the only lifts that matter are snatch and C&J and anything else is for lazy fucks so unfit they can't even touch their toes.

>>42640017

>no ox lift in these

HAHA OK GDE

>tfw ditched ohp for hspu
these are way more comfy tb h, the bar obstructs my natural pressing path ohp always feels very awkward

>inb4 limited rom
i elevate my hands with bigger plates everytime

>>42639799

A 90% single should be like @7.5, resting more than 3 minutes after for another one seems kinda silly.

>>42640057
>hspu
Twinks out

>>42640061
i weigh 200lbs im just not weak like you

>>42640061

I can In HSPU now too. Also my OHP is going up like crazy, fucked up proportion vs bench again

I should bulk to 130kg go strongman and fuck that silly bench nonsense

>>42638839
>need
They sure do respond very well to high volume training. Highly recommend German Volume training for squats. My quads grew an inch or more in 2 months

>>42640080
how much can you push press tho

>>42640075
I could do a couple when I was like 200ish desu, not full ROM tho

>>42640080
You need more chest work desu, your shoulders are stupid

>Go strongman
Aren't you like 6'4? That's probably what you should do if you're that tall desu

>>42640107

82.5kg atm, its going up like 2.5kg weekly

>>42640115

I FUCKING BENCH EVERY WORKOUT ATM, EVEN SOMETIMES DO DUMBELLS HYPETROPHY AFTER IT

>got tricep burn even after maximum wide grip bench
>bench meeh not up
>ohp up

>>42640129
D B
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F L Y E S
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>>42640129

Have you considered not being retarded and playing with grip width to figure out where your bench is strongest?

>>42640129
have you tried doing dips i get crazy chest pumps from that i also feel a lot of delts doing dumbell stuff

>>42640115

6'3 and change actually, tall enough anyway

>>42640149
strongman is terrible for your health though

>>42640113
thick and tight

>>42640136

yea, I actually have even variety like normal grip, wide grip and cgbp bench in my workouts. It helps a little, but still its GDE compared to OHP.

>>42640139

yes, front delt pump

>>42640165
Thanks

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>>42640160

So is living.

I can stop meming around too and become javelin thrower or shotputter like im being offered to

>>42639773

Agreed, buuut I still don't like AMRAP based autoregulation. In my experience it forces people into form breakdown for the sake of getting the extra reps.

That's not to say they're useless, I'd not base choosing next weeks weight on the bar on an AMRAP set, and I use them infrequently but when I do program them I do it as a plus set with an RPE cap dependent on the lifter.

If someone's deep off season and in a hypertrophy block, for example, they may not be able to express any strength gains due to fatigue/having been fully peaked at the last test but the AMRAP testing can provide a mental goal if it's needed.

>>42640189
>Why be a real Athlete when you can plow yourself into arthritis by performing the same 3 movements week in week out all for the sake of plastic trophies?

Actually that cuts a bit too close to home desu lads

>>42640205
what other form of autoregulation would you use in a program besides RPE?

>>42639281
It's probably a good well thought out program. Silent Mike seems to know what he's talking about. I'd never pay for a program that isn't custom made for me though

>>42639653
Better but damn, this is ugly

when should I be worried about upper body/lower body imbalance?

not really stalling yet, but it feels like my squat is weaker than it should be

>>42640322

dont desu

t. upperlet

>>42640322
You shouldn't, you'll get balanced out eventually, you can progress lower much faster than upper

>>42640279
RPE is enough for most once you've cultivated the skill imo.
I personally may change weight/sets/reps up to achieve a similar INOL if I need to make adjustments on the fly due to time/injury/equipment, but not often.

Bearing in mind I get my lifters to check in weekly I've got plenty of opportunity to adjust if needed week to week. I generally use a mix of percentage based stuff on the comp lifts and RPE prescription on the variations. Track progress via e1rm and subjective recovery metrics week to week to ensure progress is occurring.

I'd love to get my hands on a velocity device and use that, but Helms and Zourdos found a pretty good correlation between self judged RPE and the objective bar speed measurement in experienced lifters anyway.

>>42640322
Imbalances in the context of your powerlifting total do not matter. Whatever is stronger is going to be your bread and butter for your total.

>>42640357
As someone that's used rpe for about a year now I think you're under selling how easy it is to judge RPEs. I think it takes 2-3 years to be completely accurate. Like I said I've been using it for a year and I'll still be off a point or a point and a half on some sets

>>42640335
>>42640346

Think I'm just too impatient about the body parts evening out.

Hope I can hit a 5 on my amrap squat next week.

>>42640358

Sounds good.

Can't really think in terms of "total" at my level of lifting though.

>>42640485

>amraps
>weak lower body

what routine are you doing?

maybe not enough legs volume

>>42640485
>body parts evening out.
You're being neurotic for no reason that is meaningful. Do you just worry about meaningless shit all the time?

You don't need to be in a powerlifting thread.

>>42640512

Nsuns 5-day.

>>42640521

>do you just worry about meaningless shit all the time?

all day, every day

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>>42640374
That's something to take into account, but consider in the case of the people I'm coaching I'm overseeing the process and guiding them with it.

For those without a ruggedly handsome coach I'd encourage a few things (desu you've probably heard them before but this might help someone else) to speed up the process;
- spend time on something like a percentage based program but rate your RPE for each set as you go along
- use an RPE reference chart (pic related) to see how your RPE's are stacking up to what they 'should' be. If they're way out maybe take note of it.
- film a lot of sets and make a decision before and after watching the set on what rpe you're rating the set.

>>42640559
>all day, every day
You do know that neurotic people worry so much that it directly diminishes their ability to work at a high intensity, right?

>>42640559

so you can tell right away there is not enough squatting for you my buddy

>>42640595
>You do know that neurotic people worry so much that it directly diminishes their ability to work at a high intensity, right?

Neuroticism isn't something one can really change though, it seems some people's brains are just wired to over react to threatening stimuli.

the mad mememan Mike T is doing some research between correlations of personality traits to training tho, so expect some knowledge to drop soon.

>>42640670
>Neuroticism isn't something one can really change though
Yes it is. Frequent exposure to stressful stimulus (in small doses) can reduce the stress response to neurotic behavior.

Basically try harder.

>>42640670
I reckon it'll be the next project momentum. High neuroticism forced onto higher intensity programming to stop them under-egging weight selection via RPE, low neuroticism on RPE based, and vice versa for 2 groups to compare.

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>>42640694
>tfw project momentum 2k19 requires a full brain scan, DNA testing and zodiac charts to sign up

>>42640740

do I need to proof that I was never arrested in order to get there?

>>42640485
I started off with 155 3x8 bench, 185 3x8 squat, and 250 3x5 diddly. I'm at 396/314/474 now. Just gotta be patient

>>42640670
Memementum 2k18 can't come soon enough

>>42640560
We're definitely in agreement here then.

>>42640790
>Memementum 2k18
I like that Mike T. is using the autistic lifting community as guinea pigs.

There aren't enough actual studies on experienced lifters to understand how training effects different lifters.

Most of it is mental masturbation, but interesting nonetheless.

Anyone else watching boss of bosses right now?

>>42640820
No m8 I'm only in to powerlifting :^)

>>42640813
>>42640790
>>42640670

Already signing up.

>>42640694
>tfw low neuroticism

This was the test that Mike sent out btw, prepare yourself for memery next winter http://www.personalityassessor.com/bigfive/

>>42640855
>just took it and got 3rd percentile neuroticism
w-wew

>>42640912
Just relax nerd

>>42640855
Yeah I saw him post about it on Facebook and he talked about personality related stuff on the Strength Chat podcast. It's gonna be interesting.

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TFW nervous people waste all their brain glycogen thinking and worrying and can't lift heavy while Chad doesn't care and lifts like a boss.

>>42640930
>that pic
me irl

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>>42640855
Sweatingpepe.jpeg

>>42640855

61st percentile lul

You score high in neuroticism. People high in neuroticism are likely to experience frequent negative emotions, including stress, anxiety, and feelings of low self-worth. On the other hand, individuals high in neuroticism may experience a richer array of emotions. They are also more vigilant in detecting dangers in their surroundings--both real and imagined.

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>>42640855
>>42640912

>tfw 6th percentile

is that klokov behind the neck snatch grip press safe?

>>42640949
I was 95th percent extroversion even though I prefer to be alone.

95th openness.

10th neuroticism

90th conscientiousness

50th agreeableness.

I have over 410 wilks. Coincidence?

Is neuroticism the ultimate GDE?

>>42640973
If your shoulders are mobile enough, yes. If not, no

>>42640973
It is a retarded exercise which is pointless for 99% of lifters.

>>42641005
but it's fune
>>42640999
how do i test if they are

>>42641010
> how do I test if they are
Do the excercise. If your shoulder doesn't fall off, then they're mobile enough

>>42640949

link to this test?

>>42641041
>>42640855

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>>42640661

Could add in the extra leg volume day, was just worried about overtraining since I'm also on a deficit.

>>42640855

rly makes you think

>>42641068

>on deficit
>legs not growing

WHO WOULD TOUGHT

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>>42640855
Seems realistic-ish as far as these types of test can be.

>>42640995
I think neuroticism has a massive impact on people if they let it. If they're intelligent enough to question things they tend towards over-anslysis and wheel spinning but if not they can be very good at just following instructions and doing as they're told because they're scared of the alternative if left to they're own devices.

>>42641055

Extraversion - 43rd percentile - about average
Agreeableness - 4th percentile - extremely low
Conscientiousness - 2nd percentile - extremely low
Neuroticism - 48th percentile - about average
Openness - 49th percentile - about average

>>42641068
I don't see many people talking about squat gains and nsuns tbqh. I'm the same guy further up who was considering changing my squat progression to GZCL or something. I honestly didn't notice much difference between the 5 day and 6 day for my squat.

It just seems to suck because my weaknesses and positions only improve when its heavy enough with repeated exposure to the same weight(sets across) and I feel that the rest of the submax stuff doesn't seem to help me much.

>>42641118

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7dYfNa38E

>>42641082

the gains from better form and CNS is enough to let me lift more, at least for now

>>42641128

Was considering GZCL myself first, but the person I talked with said that nsuns was better for me as a DYEL.

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>>42640855

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>>42640855
Would like someone else to take this test for me, see how that would change things.

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>>42640855
is mine good

>>42641182

>that opennes
>that agreebleness

lmao I can already tell you are somebodys bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i00fmNRE-w0

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>>42640855
uhh, is mine bad

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>>42641198
>Would like someone else to take this test for me

That is actually a really good idea.

>>42641179
isnt gzcl actually a template

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>>42641233
>a really good idea.
My low imagination score suggests I'll be waiting a long time for my next good idea.

>>42640949
>>42641068
>>42641231
you need help

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SEAN.

Quit jacking off to trannies and take this test, you fucking pussy.

http://www.personalityassessor.com/bigfive/

>>42636269

Have started powerlifting which means I'm also eating appropriately for my height/weight. Also taking in necessary supplements and shakes etc.

I now have to piss every half hour and I shit like 3 times a day. Is this normal?

>>42641405
>Also taking in necessary supplements and shakes etc.
assuming protein and what else do you take

it is normal to pee a lot on a high protein diet, make sure you drink a lot of water with it too m8 will reduce the chance of kidney stones later in life

I still have no idea how I can program a lot of back work in GZCLP, nsuns was pretty simple, superset rows with bench and pullups with OHP.

I kinda wanted heavier pullups and more focus on rows but that won't work as a T3.

>>42641468
>GZCLP
give me a basic rundown on this

>>42640995
The amount of sleepless nights i've had because of overthinking, anxiety, rumination etc is insane. I can spend all day and all night worrying about shit and my system will just be in full activation with adrenaline, high heart beat and muscles all tense and shit.

I lost a tremendous amounts of gains and progress because of it. It has lead to under recovery and i kept getting sick and the flue etc and so on. Stress is no joke

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>>42641526
Have you tried just relaxing you fucking sperg?

Lol.

Just chill.

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>>42640855
who here /autism/?

>>42641526
read up on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism
stop doing things that make you feel like that
practice some meditation

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>>42640855
does this mean im a smart asshole or something

>>42641621
i think being high in neuroticism and high in conscientiousness and low in everything else makes you an autist

>>42641526
You won't get a single helpful reply about this on the internet, especially here.

I know because I am going through the exact same thing.
Actually just woke up from passing out I hadn't slept for days.

Misses gym again, which sucks but is out of my control.

>>42641663
Low openness means you prefer stability and routine, so I think it's indicative of autism too.

>>42641698
if you actually were autistic youd realize that openness falls under "everything else" in my post

>>42641665
>out of my control.
Nice excuse.

>>42641726
>tfw too intelligent to read

>>42641733
Thanks

>>42641486

Day 1: T1 Squat, T2 Bench, T3 Lat pulldown
Day 2: T1 OHP, T2 DL, T3 DB Row
Day 3: T1 Bench, T2 Squat, T3 Lat pulldown
Day 4: T1 DL, T2 OHP, T3 DB Row

Add weight weekly, if fail, move to next rep scheme.

T1 5x3+ -> 6x2+ -> 10x1+
T2 3x10 -> 3x8 -> 3x6
T3 3x15+


However, I'm considering trying weighted pullups as a T1 and replace OHP. I feel like they might work well with triples, doubles and singles.

I think I will run it as Upper/Lower format and I'm just trying to figure out how I can involve a lot of rows and pullups. Probably something like this;

Day 1: T1 Bench, T2 OHP, T2 Row, T3 Pullup, T3 Lat Raise
Day 2: T1 Squat, T2 DL, T3 Lunge, T3 DB Row, T3 Abs
Day 3: T1 OHP, T2 Bench, T2 Pullup, T3 Row, T3 Lat Raise
Day 4: T1 DL, T2 Squat, T3 RDL, T3 DB Row, T3 Abs

>>42641771
ok this is how youre gonna solve it

give weighted pullups and rows their own day like you did with bench/ohp. The pro is youll spend less time per workout but youll train 6 days a week

Holy fucking shit fuck, my squat is shit. I never took videos from the front so I never knew but look what it fucking looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TysjTU8w-pc
No wonder I had back problems since ever. Now how can I fix this shit? Was thinking about not going atg and just basically abandon high bar and only do low bar squats. Also might help with how unequal the bar is on my back due to scoliosis. Please someone help me. I'm tired of injuring myself everytime I squat. Btw today was fine but I did only paused squats.

>>42641813
you have a slight hip shift i think your left leg is longer than your right at least that what it looks like highbar and atg isnt the issue

also might be the shoes you were wearing and the stance width

>>42641805
Oh that might work, so Pullup/Row and Row/Pullup day, I don't know why I didn't think about that since I lift in my garage anyway

Where would you put the days so that they'd have the least negative effects on other lifts?

>>42641850
>you have a slight hip shift
I know that's what I'm talking about, but also look at the bar because of my unequal shoulders it's much lower on my left side. I think low bar might change that.

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>>42641390
Here you go :) also nice projection btw

>>42641872
1. squat
2.pull
3.bench
4.dl
5.ohp
6.row

i guess like this

>>42641919
so what are you lifts

>>42641986
wouldnt that require a trait that isn't very low openness?

>>42641895
honestly i have no idea how you would fix that

also get your leg length measured

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>>42641390
Good? Bad?

>>42642063
desu I dont know why anonymous would post their charts, like you're literally anonymous, what the fuck is the point of that? at least with trips you can compare it to a personality you were already able to assess

for you, its no different if i were to google "random big five personality dimension test results"

Do use all a favour and delete your post you delusional, egotistical, unintelligent mongoloid

>>42642126
Nice projection

>>42642186
this is autism

>>42642063
low conscientiousness is really bad imho
stuff like introversion/extraversion and agreeableness kind of just make you a certain 'flavor' of a person, but conscientiousness has quite an impact on your lifestyle and the path you walk in your life
high conscientiousness correlates with success, low conscientiousness correlates with violent and criminal behavior — here we can certainly place one as more desirable than the other, while being introverted vs extraverted isn't inherently better or worse than the other

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>>42640855

lmao forgot my trip

>go out
>some douche teenagers rapper
>ok atleast I got fucking drunk so I wont care
>30 min before they tell me they dont want to drink
>told them to fuck off than and I dont go


WTF is somebody srsly going to rap concerts and listen to this bullshit being sober?

>>42642198
oh that sucks. Should I just kms

What do you lads think about bulking on intermittent fasting?

>>42638183
Most of the programs recommended here are tried and tested and written by professionals. GZCL is just a Redditor with mediocre lifts and J&T 2.0 is just a very very high volume 4 day Texas Method

>>42642207
I have problems with this quiz

the introvert/extrovert thing is fine I know I am introverted

this thing labeled me as lowly agreeable because I am intolerant of fucking retarded shit for brains

I get the conscientiousness part, that makes sense to me

I have mild problems with the neurotic part, I have a extremely short fuse for anger but I don't really think that makes me neurotic

I have BIG problems with the openness part, just cause I find art,literature and music to be boring in reference to other fields it says Im not "open"

0/10 test would probably take again though

>>42641919
Why are you so depressed?

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>>42642257
these are the better tests

>>42642257
This one was worded a bit differently: http://personality-testing.info/

>>42642216
at least you saved money

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>>42642288
>I am SOOOOOOO progressive mannnn I want like gay immigrant mulatto trannys to twerk on my dick while we smoke weed and talk about why like war is bad mannnnnnnnnnnnnn why cant we all just like smoke W33333333333333333D MANNNNNNNNNNNNN now where is my welfare check?

-t. you

>>42642328

i might go buy whisky in one sec

>>42642347
still cheaper than drinking in some club

>>42642344
But I don't like weed or welfare. I just think degenerates should be allowed to be degenerates as long as they aren't hurting other people.

>>42642368
But they're hurting other people.

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>>42642290
I dont know how I feel about this one either 2bh

I have officially ran out of things to do

>>42642364

implying I would be good goim and drink inside

>>42642368
considering the only purpose of the state is that it is a voluntary association by which like minded individuals collectivize to better exert force upon the world to express their will as they see fit, worthless subhuman trash in my country is only a inhibition, a distraction and a nuisance to me as I act in my interests

if they want to be subhuman they can go do it somewhere else

(then we can invade them and put them in a labour camp till they die)

>>42642465
Careful - you might cut yourself on that edge, kiddo.

>>42642440
oh boo fucking hoo

learn a new language

learn how to do a new art form or other similar creative outlet

learn to play an instrument

pick up a new athletic hobby to do on the side

I wish I had enough time to do any of these things

between work school and training I don't really have enough time to do anything else I want to keep learning Latvian but the only down time I have Im too mentally worn out to actually retain anything usefully

I cannot wait till I am done with school after this semester

>>42642488
xd u think of the state in a pragmatic way so u r edgy haha

>>42642264
nice projection, Dino

>>42642496
>between work school and training I don't really have enough time to do anything else
iktf, I even browse 4chan only at work lately.

>>42642496
I could never grasp languages at school and no desire to learn a new one
Drawing, painting and other art projects are boring
I tried an instrument not too long ago and got bored
I can't do an athletic hobby because I'm not a team player

Nice edge btw

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>2 white lights at Boss of Bosses

>>42642542

how

>>42642642
The absolute STATE of lolfeds.

Nothing they do would surprise me anymore.

>>42642496
Shut up and play video games with me, slut.

Are rehband 7mm knee sleeves worth it?

I have a bad knee and considered buying them

>>42642733
Yes, buy sleeves.

squatting like haack and sheiko don´t go well together boys
Squatted 515lb@174lb and still have pain on my knees even squatting 135...

>>42642902
>sheiko
program made for roiders

>>42642733
No. Get SBD's or Meme Bell STrong sleeves. Not that much more expensive and actually good.

>>42643002
should i do c6w?

>>42643050
go back to SS

>>42643002

how is sheiko for roiders? its looking like literally powerlifting specific onslaught


also I made decision stop with forcing lift thats not funny

im gonna ohp 2x and bench only 1x a week

why do I always feel strong and energized and like I want to lift weights on my rest days but on lift days I feel depressed and low

>>42643188
maybe you should go and lift on rest days so combat that feeling

>>42643141
i think its too much volume for my knees too handle

>>42643212

well than its just not suit for you, same as 2 intense deadlift sessions per week are to muuh for me

>>42642902
Mirin tbqh

>>42643241
r u maryed yet

>>42643241
well nothing to be mirin about anymore my knees are killing me to the point that i can´t walk properly and have to bench with knee sleeves
Still deadlifts are going well which is nice

>>42643247
Friday i will be

>>42643294
You'll be fine dude just walk it off

>>42642542
yeah this squat was total BSSS

Somebody give me 1 good reason to not do a cycle of test. I compete untested and don't care about the IPF.

>>42643317
Omg omg omg

Can I come

>>42643342
FOWF

>>42643317
do you think i should change how i squat? i have tried many times to avoid a lot of forward knee travel but it just feels worse.
I might widen my stance a little bit and see what i get

>>42643354
Wider stance will equate to less knee travel. It's what i had to do. Might not be your problem. Do you have any valgus collapse in the squat? Not staying in the saggital plane might be a bigger threat

>>42643352
This has to be the dozenth acronym I've had to google this year.
I didn't think I'd be so out of touch as soon as I hit 18.

>>42643352
could i come?

Watch Aaron full on RIM Sean's asshole so he doesn't get bullied by big bully Sean anymore :c

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>>42643354

I had severe pain for a while. What helped me was taking a month off squatting and fixing my form when I was well enough to squat again. Post a video of your squat so people can see if you're maybe doing something wrong.

I also did some foam rolling and stretching. I'm not sure how that affected my recovery but it does at the least provide temporary relief.

I want to lift but my insomnia keeps hurting me.

I feel so shit man

>>42643405

no poor ppl allowed

>>42643354
where is the pain exactly located

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>>42643603

>>42643390
my knees don´t come in while squatting but they go waay past my toes even more than haacks
>>42643603
it´s knee cap and right above it

>>42643635
its not knee related you have quad tendinitis

this is how you fix it
1. stop squatting heavy for a while
2. stretch quads
3. pump blood into that area through some light exercise

>>42643635
>>42643761
oh wait you also said knee cap i guess you have patellar and quad tendinitis

Does anyone have any music when you feel disassociated with yourself and are stuck in deep thought?

I am so bored of my current playlist that I'd actually prefer the sensation of pouring bleach in my ears than listening to it again.

>>42643635
Sounds like what my knee pain used to be. Massage your VMO and see if that helps

Also couch stretch.

>>42643405
You never returned my RSVP

>>42643488
It helps when you keep busy during the day and you and end up crashing once you hit your bed. Though if you're like me you'll have the wonderful luck of waking up early and not being able to fall back asleep

>>42643958
>when you feel
I don't even feel anymore. Feeling caused me too much suffering now it's much better.

>>42644180
Nihilism isn't maintainable. You have to be born that way.

Unfortunately I'm a normal human bean programmed to f e e l

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I'm just asking here because it doesn't deserve its own thread.

Just started doing light lifting. Like I have 2 cheap weights because I'm a weak shit. Squats and arm stuff. Been doing it for a month and I've noticed my legs are slightly harder and my arms are very, very, slightly bigger. I feel weaker than usual though. I have no energy to move my arms around and my legs feel slightly numb if I'm not walking. Why is this happening?

>>42643034
>>42642822
But only buying 1 is a shit idea right

There are on sale right now i can get 1 in my size on amazonf or 20 euro and i saw a lot of good lifetrs use them

New:

>>42644285

>>42643958
Insomnium is some of the best music I've ever listened to. The feelings the albums have is really unique. Listening chronologically is best, imho.

>>42639653
you arent going to correct it overnight but a shit load of progress has been made. dont give up and keep working on improving