/fat/ - ">tfw tried to cut but ran out of razor blades"

>myfitnesspal

why the fuck aren't you fatasses using cronometer?

Is a climbing gym a bad replacement for lifting?

>>42594495
op here, idk man, maybe it just works best for most people
i personally just stick to the s health app on my phone

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CONFESS your bad deeds to BREAK FREE from your CYCLE of being a FAT PIECE OF SHIT

I can comfortably cut 1000 cals from my TDEE and not feel hungry, is that too much or should I continue?

>>42594548
So whats your limit? 1500?

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I don't even care about lifting

I'm just gonna eat at 1500 a day and cardio my way out of fatness

fat fucks

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>>42594519
the micro tracking tho

and before anyone screeches i supplement omegas, vit D, vit E, and potassium

>depressed
I want to eat to comfort myself but I know I'll feel bad anyway afterwards.

>>42594600
drink some caffeine free green tea and go see a specialist m8, it'll be one of the best decisions of your life

>>42594560
Most calculators give me a TDEE of 3000, I eat around 2000 a day

>>42594626
Yeah, it's okay. I also eat around 2000 per day.

>>42594579
stop im getting a data boner

>>42594579

>10g zinc

how long have you been doing this?

>>42594544
I WAS GOOD TODAY GURUJI
I SWEAR

>>42594566
thats fine man
do what you think is best for yourself as long as you know the costs and benefits of your decision

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>>42594579
this thing shows individual AA's? I am erect right now

>>42594646
it's mg dummy

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Am I gonna make it?

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I'm getting pretty skelly but I've still got a lower belly bulge and I dont have much more weight I can lose (male, 5'6, 67.5kg), will it actually go completely flat or do I need to build up my abs and the bit between my belly button and groin more to get it to be flush? My goal has been to get to a low body fat which I figure means a flat belly and start a lean bulk and I'm getting a bit frustrated that I can't start that yet.

>>42594748
How does one exactly eat negative calories?

>>42594779
not eating and exercising?

>>42594544
Forgive me guru, the pizza I ate had beef on it.

>>42594763
are you not already lifting? cause if you're not you've been fucking up this whole time and need to start

>>42594779
Fasting for three days and some walking.

I had a week off so I figured I had a 2 day fast

>>42594763
>I dont have much more weight I can lose (male, 5'6, 67.5kg),
There's at least 7 kg more you can lose you fat fuck

>>42594934

Yeah i've been working out since I started, about 2 months, 3 - 4 times a week. I only started with free weights maybe 3 weeks ago, progress is slow - never did any exercise before that.

>>42594961
Can I actually lose that much though, I'm already seeing individual ribs. I don't want to look like I'm from auschwitz.

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Will I make it lads? Will my bitch tits go away if I drop 10 more kilos?

I'm 5'5 my weight goal is 139. Im at 160 right now, gonna start lifting at 155 lbs. Doing fasted cardio in the mornings 3x a week.

What lifts should I do?

>>42595009
Losing weight can do nothing except improve your appearance. Get as lean as you reasonably can.

>>42595009
>will i make it
not with those shorts you wont

>>42594544
i had chocolate today swami
three bars
party size
;_;

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>>42594544
i did extra cardio today so i could eat a bit more.

>>42594544
I had a 1/2 cup of Ice cream

>>42595120
what flavor?

I've been cutting for well over 6 months and now. I'm at 156lbs (5'10), but my progress has more or less stopped; my self-hatred used to fuel me, but it no longer works since I'm more in the dyel range now.
Used to go at over a 1000 calorie deficit, but now I just barely break even.

Fuck I want pizza

>>42595150
Moose Tracks
>http://kawarthadairy.com/ice-cream/moose-tracks/

>Vanilla ice cream with chocolate peanut butter cups swirled with Moose Tracks® fudge.

>>42595192
i don't have much of a sweet tooth but i can devour a half gallon of that sweet nectar

>>42594544

When I binge I will literally sit and eat ketchup sandwiches. Just bread and ketchup man. Eat like a damn half a loaf of bread

>>42594544
went to a party yesterday, drank at least 1000 calories of shots

and then drunkenly binged on chips and fast food afterwards

lord forgive me for i have sinned

>>42595203
Had it before?

It's quite nice, each bite is different flaavours.

Hey, lads. Haven't worked out in a long time, but my job is a lot of full body labor. Does that suffice for exercise or should I be lifting along with it? I usually don't have the energy at the end if the day. I get 45-60 hours depending on conditions.

I feel like I've hit a plateau with weight, but my body looks more toned and feels more fit. I only need to lose about 20lbs to be satisfied.

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:o

>>42595255
yeah it's my favorite ice cream. i just wish someone who made a higher quality base ice cream made the same thing

>>42595296
That burger looks good.

>>42595214
alcohol calories don't count lad

>>42595330
stop being retarded

>>42594544
I ate kladdkaka and drank chocolate "milk"

>>42595330
is this a new meme or are you actually retarded?

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>lose weight
>normal body structure is ass

>>42595279
To add, I lost 60lbs last year from diet, lifting, and hiking, but I was a NEET then.

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>>42594544
Eating chick fil a as we speak father, but I didnt get any fries

>>42595363
>kladdkaka
that looks fucking delicious

but why would you pair it with chocolate milk? doesn't that somewhat limit the overall flavor experience?

Will losing 40 lbs leave me with loose skin?

>>42595414
maybe, but not losing 40 lbs will leave you with loose fat

>>42595414
If you only do cardio and diet, yes. Lift for better skin gains.

>>42595410
pick your poison when it comes to what drink to have for your kladdkaka
I usually go with coffee

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Been dieting for two weeks. Lord help me for I want to binge

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What's your #1 pet peeve from fellow fatties, /fat/?

>b-but eating healthy is too expensive

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>>42594544
Had one beer. I just had to crack open a cold one.

>>42595330
how so though

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>>42595560

>uses exclusively fast food as an example of unhealthy food
>buys greek yoghurt in single servings and 1 minute """oats"""

>>42594577
'sup
>>42594600
eating will make you more depressed. not giving into cravings and bad decisions will give you more power.
>>42595171
what was your starting weight and are you lifting? 156lbs sounds good.

I'm 5'11 and 167lbs (female). My goal is to slowly get to 154lbs. I started at 200lbs a couple of months ago. Came back from a vacation today and two colleagues said I look perfect and I'll soon look like a model. I don't see it. I'm so used to thinking of myself as fat and ugly. Anon fatbros, how do I start seeing what others see? I don't want to feel special or anything. I just want not to stand out in a negative way which I guess I always did.

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How do I know how many calories to add if I fry something with olive oil

>>42595746

measure it first

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>>42595709
You've never seen this logic before? Are you new?

I pay $0.12/oz for the greek yogurt. Do you have a better price?

>>42595296
What is this, some chinese bootleg Burger King?

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>Haven't weighed self since July 28th, was 183
>Been still tracking cals but I've been abusing cough syrup and past few weeks have been blurry and I've fucked up my cut a few times, nothing too bad but was terrified of gaining
>Got on scale this morning after swearing off cough syrup yesterday after bad trip
>Weigh 181 and looked skinny as fuck in mirror
Going to reward myself and have a cheat month
Happy as fuck

How come after I take a shit in the morning I feel bloated?

Shouldn't it be the opposite

>>42595410
It was delicious too.

>>42595856
That's like 10 kg of potatoes, 3 heads of cabbage, 10 onions and a sack of beans.

>>42595856

No, I just don't visit the fph thread that often.

I can get greek yoghurt for like $0.06/oz I think though.

>>42594544
I had a Halo Top today

Oh wait, it's within my calorie limit, and 240 for 20g of protein is pretty much the same as a mediocre protein bar.

Nevermind.

>tfw constantly lurk on /fat/, reading other people's stories and advice instead of putting any effort into my own weightloss.

>>42595746
Ya know how you might keep a cup near the stove to store oil that's reusable?

So first measure a cup of olive oil, pour that in the pan and fry as usual. Then pour that oil into the cup and measure that amount. The difference is how much oil you count.

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>>42595952

I haven't logged calories for a month.

Still lost weight I think.

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>>42595746
Stop using refined fats

First some stats:
64kg, 175 cm, BMI 21

Can't loose the fat on my hips no matter how hard i work out. Got diagnosed two years ago with candida (doctor blames this for the fat on my hips because linked with sugar addiction; also he told me the fat on my hips would be genetic). If anyone has an idea I'm desperate to hear it.

Training: 2x HIIT Training ( running) á 30 min per week
3x Bodyweight workout á 45min per week
Diet: Lots of fruit; vegetables; I try to avoid bread and sugar

>>42595883
Enjoy my friend

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>>42596034

>fruits

you dun goofed

>>42596034
Candida doesn't exist and that doctor is an idiot. And you probably need to build muscle and forget about the fat

>>42596034
>lots of fruit
>i try to avoid sugar

what did he mean by this

>>42596059
>Candida doesn't exist
Yes it does. It's part of the microbiologic flora of your gut and totally useful as long as it doesn't get too much. I've taken a shit ton of antifungal stuff until now but not much has changed, but maybe it's because I eat too much sugar. Nevertheless, it's not a joke

>>42595401
Dumb fatty

>>42596072
I know, i know. But since I'm not allowed to eat sweets anymore, this is what I crave. Just eating veggies and fat leaves me hungry

>>42596118
Apple cider vinegar. There's your fix for your cravings. And personally, the only sweet stuff I have now save for FRIDAY NIGHT MUTHAFUCKA time, is a few sugar cubes in my black coffee

>>42595401
Just get their grilled chicken nuggets m8. High protein and low calorie. I usually get 12 (210 calories) and then take them home and put them in a salad and make some soup or small frozen dinner to go with it. Solid meal.

>>42596163
Thanks, I will try this! Any recommendations on how often and in which way (mixed with what) I should eat this?

someone told me the other day that if you lose weight by your early 20s the long term damage is basically nothing. is this true or just bs Normies spread?

>>42596103
It's literally voodoo bullshit though.

> I've taken a shit ton of antifungal stuff until now but not much has changed, but maybe it's because I eat too much sugar.
No, it's because candida doesn't fucking exist (except as an actual medical condition you obviously do not have).

And anyway, refined sugar is the easiest thing in the world to absorb, it happens at the very beginning on the small intestine whereas fruit takes longer - so refined sugar would be the LEAST likely to feed any sort of pathogen.

What's the most accurate and best food tracking app ?

>>42596214
Well I hear a lot of people talk like you. Most of them have no medical background or experience, because the ones who do, take it seriously but don't diagnose it too quickly.

>>42595410
Its literally just a brownie

>>42596210
Caution: apple cider vinegar is extremely bitter. You need to mix it with water (1/10 vinegar) to drink without wishing you were dead. To make it even less terrible, mix in a scoop of stevia. Sure, it's a sweetener, but only a tenth the calories of sugar. Drink it once a day, for dinner.

Some people have somehow managed to cope with the vinegar as is, but I dunno how. Still, you should try one gulp of it as it is, to understand what you're dealing with.

>>42596212
I'd like to know this as well.

>>42596271
I thought the ACV thing was debunked?

>>42596214
The doctor diagnosed it not himself by the way, I had to give a box of shit to a lab where they breeded it for 3 days. The result showed higher than usual signs of candida in my gut

>>42595414
I've lost about 50 pounds so far from when I started losing weight in DEC 2015. But as you see, I've been losing this weight pretty slowly (previously due to my retarded habit of "cheat weekends").

I'm now around 170lbs and have pretty much no loose skin. I do have stretch marks though and still have 30 pounds more to lose. I've been lazy losing these last couple of pounds though because I'm at the point where I look more "chubby" than fat.

>>42596210
mix it with a 8-12 oz of water. do NOT drink that shit straight unless you want a worse esophagus than someone who smokes 3 packs a day

>>42596118
Stop eating fat retard.

>>42596210
aside from it killing some cravings there's a decent possibility that it regulates candida overgrowth

>>42596363
>falling for the low fat meme

>>42596365
which would be perfect. Thanks! I'll definitely give it a try

Reposting from last thread

>5'11 nearly 300 pound fatty

If I eat low cal, but manage to burn what I eat through work and exercise, will I still go into starvation mode? I want to make it. And for my health I NEED to lose weight.

>>42594566
Skinny fat though, do some core at least

>>42596118
How long have you been cutting sweets? I found that after 2-3 weeks of suffering through sweets pangs I no longer even like sweets let alone have cravings for them.

>>42596400
As far as I know "starvation mode" is a meme. If you eat under your TDEE you will lose weight, and it's especially easy when you're as heavy as you are and are just starting out.

The danger with eating too low is that you won't have enough energy. I've had days where I've eaten 1,200 calories or less, sometimes as low as just 500, and I would start to feel really lightheaded and dizzy. The same with when I get dehydrated. So if you do go really low-cal be sure to drink plenty of water and don't get too active if you think you're going to fall over or something.

That being said, if you're 5'11 and 300lbs that means your TDEE should be around 2,800 calories so I would suggest just cutting down to between 1,800 and 2,300. At your weight you will lose really quick.

>>42595938
Enjoy your sugar alcohol induced shits

>>42594544
Didn't track my calories today but didn't eat more than usual. Still, not counting calories is a slippery slope.

>>42596462
To be honest, I sin almost every second day. I really can't help myself. Although the amount of sugar I eat now is maybe 20% of the sugar I ate some months ago, but it still isn't zero. Also I tend to eat when I'm bored or without something to do. A couple of months ago I also resisted for two weeks and felt better, just to fall back into the old behavior

Two questions for you /fat/asses:

1. You guys really, really hate keto for some reason. What gets me is you will openly condone intermittent fasting and alternate-day fasting without, apparently, realizing you're in ketosis when you fast. What gives? Are you just in denial and can't give up your precious bread? Or is there really a point to going in some weird cyclical pattern of having carbs and not having carbs?

2. I walk to work every day (25-30 min walk) and I walk/stand all day at work. I also exercise 2-3 times a week. What should I put down for my exercise level on most TDEE calculators?

>>42596400
If you are the guy who also said you need to lose it fast : don't try to lose it fast by extreme diet or exercise.

Don't eat less than 1200cal a day. Don't exercise until you can barely move. That's the road to failure.

If you want to make it, eat at a modest deficit and exercise what you are comfortable with.

I don't know why you won't share your health problem, but in 3 months I went from diabetic (7.1 A1C) to normal (5.1 A1C) by losing 35ish lbs with this kind of plan.

>>42596561
Keto is a fad diet. Show me scientific data and analysis on this.

walked 10 km today

inner thighs needs some cream, mild chaffing, also blisters on my fucking little toes, i noticed i use a lot of my outer foot to walk on, and my shoes are always worn down on the sides first

is there any way to fix shit walking form? are those toe-shoes still a thing or is that a meme

>>42596561
>without, apparently, realizing you're in ketosis when you fast.

That's irrelevant. Everybody fasts. The point of of IF isn't to reach ketosis.

>>42596561
people only hate when others claim keto does something magical beyond reducing calorie consumption via restricting the foods you eat. if a keto diet works for you and you accept the reality that all it's doing is causing you to consume fewer calories than you burn then nobody gives a shit.

lightly active (1-3 times a week). walking as transportation doesn't count and it's always good to underestimate a bit

>>42596561
No reason to hate keto imho. It just doesn't work well with sports that require explosive power like weight lifting

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>>42595330
You fuckhead

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>>42596577
Yes, I get that this is the typical meme response. But what you don't understand is that your body is in ketosis when you fast. And you have no problem with fasting, apparently.

And I don't consider a diet that keeps thousands of people alive in the arctic a "fad" diet. Especially when it's been around in America since the 1930s. You're saying its a fad diet, you show me the scientific data. In inuit populations where a westernized diet has taken root, diabetes rates have skyrocketed.

>>42596604
But why keep going in and out of it when you can just stay in, get keto adapted, and be happier? I know giving up candy is hard for you fat fucks but some people actually like meat and veggies.

>>42596614
>walking as transportation doesn't count
Why?

>>42596618
No one here lifts. They're all into climbing stairs and other nonsensical cardio things.

>>42594468
I've been constipated for 2 years, what do?

>>42596641
>In inuit populations where a westernized diet has taken root, diabetes rates have skyrocketed

oh wow that has everything to do with the magic of keto and not that they started eating all kinds of garbage popular in western diets instead of whole fruits and whole grains

> get keto adapted, and be happier;

some people feel worse long after they've adapted to keto

>some people actually like meat and veggies

and some people actually like berries and oats

you're as much of an autist and people who unabashedly hate keto jesus christ

>>42596400
Starvation mode isn't real, just stay within your calorie goals and don't eat too little unless you're fasting

>>42594495

>app sells your eating habits and body information to third parties
>still costs 3€ even tho YOU are the product that is sold
>does only support third world units, no litres, kg or meter

GEE I WONDER WHY NOBODY BUYS THIS INCREDIBLE APP

>>42596561
We don't hate keto for the keto effect, we hate it because it's based on eating fat. Fat is not healthy.

>>42596697
>app sells your eating habits and body information to third parties
same as every other app

>still costs 3€ even tho YOU are the product that is sold
and provides a much better service than MFP for almost no money

>does only support third world units, no litres, kg or meter
it supports ml and g, along with EU and AU/NZ labels for custom recipes

not a surprise you're in this thread when you measure your food in meters

>>42596687
Well redditfriend, allow me to retort.
>>42596687
>oh wow that has everything to do with the magic of keto
Yep.
>>42596687
>some people feel worse long after they've adapted to keto
Some people like getting fucked in the ass by big black guys. Better turn asexual so I don't end up like them!
>>42596687
>and some people actually like berries and oats
And cake, candy, cookies, etc. Btw, berries are for women and faggots.

>>42596741
>Fat is not healthy.
Please go away and don't come back.

>>42595192
Substitute regular ice cream with halo top or some similar alternative when you get that craving. Whole pint is only like 250-300 calories and has like 24g protein. The pistachio flavor is fuckin good shit too. Only downside is its expensive.

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>>42596741

>>42596752
Take heavy cream. Fill it full of flavor (like cocoa powder and artificial sweetener like sucralose) and whip it. Put it in the freezer. Wait until frozen. Enjoy.

>>42596751
>has no argument
>still screeches about his magic diet

>>42596771
Why the fuck are you still responding to his obvious bait?
This is just like the WFPB guy who tried to start an argument a few weeks back.

Just ignore it. Some people like keto, some people don't. When someone asks, both sides can present.

>>42594544
Can i request a muslim imam fatty wojak for future threads?

>>42596791
No.
Fuck you terrorist.

>>42596756
>saturated fat
>healthy
Pick One.

>>42596771
>this guy is an advocate of keto
>he's screeching about it because I told him to post proof of it working after I claimed it didn't work even though native populations have lived on it for literally thousands of years
>magic diet

>>42596790
>Why the fuck are you still responding to his obvious bait?
It's not bait. It's an honest question.

If you enter keto with fasting, why are you against keto as a regular diet? The only possible upside I can see to eating shit food in limited quantities compared to eating great food in limited quantities is you shit better for the first 2-3 weeks. Other than that there are literally zero benefits.

>but muh energy when lifting
If only there was a way for the muscle cells to use an alternative source of energy for fuel like free fatty acids or something. That'd make keto perfect.

>>42596804
i'll take saturated fat

>>42596641
don't use patchy to shitpost

>>42596295
>candida
Can you send me box of you shit?
For..uh... research?

>>42596741

Surgar isnt healthy ether. What do you mean by this my buddy

>>42596750

>doesn't use apps that do the same job for free with a much larger library
>doesn't track his nutrition in fractions of the distance that light travels in 1/299792458 of a second
>thinks he is ever going to make it

costanza.jpg

>>42596841
Good thing nobody advocates a high-sugar diet.

>>42596801
Which member of your family got rekt by isis lad?

>>42596400
>>42596689
"Starvation mode" is real, it's just quite a small effects and bounces back afterwards.
More relevant are hormonal and psychological changes that may increase the desire to eat and initially interfere with weight maintenance after successful weight loss.
http://www.stephanguyenet.com/the-impact-of-weight-loss-on-the-drive-to-eat/

>>42596806
Keto is terribly unhealthy, it's not "great food". If you're losing weight you already have ~100 grams of additional free fatty acids flowing through your blood every day putting stress on your liver and other organs, that's about as much as the average American consumes.

So weight loss is actually the perfect opportunity to eat no fat at all since your adipose tissue is liberating large amounts every single day. Your dietary needs are thus effectively near nil.

Can i be slim but strong, i want aesthetics but i dont wanna be fucking gigantic or super cut, lean but muscle visibilty?

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>>42596921
andrew?

>>42596921
>i dont wanna be fucking gigantic
Chances are you wont unless you'll take roid. Just bulk & cut and you'll get visibility.

>>42596921
it's all or nothing either you're scrawny and pathetically weak or massive and inhumanly strong might as well just begin your new life of anorexia

>>42596948
Bigger

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>>42596949
More like pic related but a bit leaner

>>42596915
Wow man how can you advocate this stupidity? Glucose is literally poison. Ask anyone with extra sugar in their blood how their nerves and organs are doing. Then go to the people with extra fat.

Yeah.

I guess eating some steak and broccoli for dinner is "putting stress" on my liver. I guess having eggs and sausage with spinach for breakfast is "terrible" for me. I guess having some chili with sour cream and cheese for lunch is absolutely terrible! How will I live without all these vitamins I'm apparently missing out. But, because my diet is "stressing" my liver, I guess it's bad. By the way, what does a high sugar diet stress? Every organ in the body? Oh okay.

(LCHF doesn't stress the liver, for the normal people reading this that aren't vegan feminists wishing to push their propaganda on the 4chins)

I eat below my daily calorie limit but i exceed my sodium intake

Is that bad?

>>42596988
>exceed my sodium intake
Yeah, your body might retain more water.

>>42596915
>Keto is terribly unhealthy, it's not "great food". If you're losing weight you already have ~100 grams of additional free fatty acids flowing through your blood every day putting stress on your liver and other organs, that's about as much as the average American consumes.
There's 2 things you're forgetting about.

1. Free fat gets collected and stored in fat cells
2. If you're eating at a deficit, fat floating through your blood is actually good for you since that's what your body is using for energy.

Compare that to free floating glucose. Hi diabetes.

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>>42596118
Please limit you're fruit intake or try low sugar fruit.

>>42596981
>>42596996
Not exactly sure if trolling

>>42597011
just fanatics

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>>42597016
This is just untrue and you know it. You want desperately to be right but you can't prove it.

Show me evidence that I'm wrong and I'll shut up and eat oats and dicks for the rest of my life like you do.

I'll wait.

>>42596992
what if I workout 5x a week? will it all even out or will sodium significantly slow down my progress?

I've been living of protein shakes every day and masturbating, but it aint getting any bigger. Workout is a meme.

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>grandma comes over and makes homemade pizza
>eat the entire thing like a fuckign faggot after only two weeks of cutting

I'm not gonna make it, aren't I

Man fat solid shits feel great.

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>>42597007
Reminder to ignore anyone telling you to stop eating raw plant based foods.

>>42597048
You still have to manage sodium levels despite lifting.

>>42597032
Saturated fat causes insulin resistance and fatty liver immediately after ingestion
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28112681

Saturated fat inhibits clearance of fat from the liver, fructose simulates it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20483648

>>42595387
Get some more muscle then, cover the body with better things

>>42596992
>>42597136

are people still falling for the low sodium meme?

>>42597166
Is there any benefit to have high sodium intake?

>>42597147
When peopel say fat, surly they dont mean trans or saturated fat. Beecause they're both shit

>>42597147
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28112681
>Don't get saturated fat from plants
>or any fat, really

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20483648
>short-term studies

Here ya go.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28700832
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28752053

But, it does at least possibly negatively impact performance athletes
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28239404

Good thing this is /fat/ and not a place where people actually exercise.

>>42597182
Nope. Sat. fat can at least potentially protect you from cirrhosis. Can sugar?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15051845

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>>42595212
the fuck kind of human being are you how the fuck?????

>>42597174

reasonably high sodium intakes (not talking 10+ grams) don't cause any health issues in healthy populations and are beneficial during high heat months and caloric restriction. salts like sodium, potassium, and magnesium are essential for proper organ function and having a proper balance of electrolytes in your blood lends to overall well-being.

i'm not saying to go out of your way to eat a lot of sodium, but don't worry about it unless you have legitimate medical reasons to. do go out of your way to get higher levels of often missed salts like potassium and magnesium in your diet though. mixing juice from 1 lime or lemon, 2-3g of potassium salt, and 2-3g of pink himalayan salt (better mineral profile than standard) with 32oz water is a great thing to drink while you work out so you replace all the electrolytes you're sweating out.

a lot of the time when people feel dehydrated and get cramps when they've been drinking a lot of water is because they've been drinking so much water that their internal electrolyte balance has been diluted.

>>42597166
high sodium leads to more water retention and less weight lost, right? i'm the original sodium poster

every fucking thing I eat has sodium ;_;

>>42597262
sometimes more water retention but you shouldn't give a shit about that unless you have some event you need to prepare for like a beach day. otherwise just worry about fat loss. losing fat is so much easier if you allow yourself to not be concerned with sodium.

>>42597262
When doctors started telling people to eat less sodium to prevent heart attacks, the rate of heart attacks increased. In populations where overly excessive sodium is ingested, people have more heart attacks. In populations where very minimal sodium is ingested, people have more heart attacks.

Turns out there's a certain amount you need. There is no evidence to suggest there is a special magic ratio, but there is some that points to a balance between sodium and potassium. In any event, eat more green leafy vegetables and use lite salt to season your food.

Salt does cause you to retain water but so do carbohydrates. Water isn't a problem unless your hands are puffy (then you might have a real problem). Having an extra 5-10 pounds of water in your body means nothing for your weight loss. If you weight 160 with no water weight or 170 with water weight you'd look 99% the same.

>>42597296
Doesnt water retention makes your face more fluffy?

>>42597327
If your kidneys are failing and you need dialysis sure.

It's not like you're going to look like you got punched in the face 100x if you eat a cheeseburger and fries.

>>42597240
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28700832
The high-fatties increased their LDL cholesterol while losing weight you absolute donkey. The low-fatties reduced their LDL.

Why the fuck are low-carbers so dishonest? They literally took these overweight people and ruined their health even further and titled their study "improves metabolic health outcomes over a control diet".

And the "low-fat" diet OF COURSE wasn't low-fat, it was 33% calories from fat which is HIGH FAT

>Conflict of Interest Disclosure: Two of the authors, Dr Caryn Zinn and Professor Grant Schofield have coauthored two books called “What The Fat? Fat’s in, Sugar’s out”, and “What The Fat – Sports performance"

This is the quality of response I am used to from low-carbers

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>>42594544
Sunday night I had a big fight with my mom and binged on four $1 greasy burritos from Taco Bell, which I threw most of up (involuntarily). She didn't show up for the family eclipse party and I slept almost the whole day.

>>42595743
Thicc post pics bb

>>42594544
not eaten anything today
spent most of the day sat on the pan shitting my guts out

really want to weigh myself but I said I wouldn't until october at least

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>>42597371
I found a pic of you and your friends.

Cute. But typical. Enjoy being fat the rest of your life, fuckface.

>if you don't like keto you must choke down sugar all the time
what is this false equivalence bullshit you keep implying my man

>>42596049
>>42596072
You would have to eat ludicrous amounts of fruit to match the sugar content of junk food, and that's before you take factors like fiber and glycemic index into account. One or two servings of most fruit is fine.

>>42596400
Starvation mode is real (google biggest loser contestants) and the diets that can put you there are not sustainable anyway. Stick to something reasonable like a 10-20% deficit or non-meme lifestyle diet. Wheat, sugar, and corn are your enemies.

>>42594544
I crave and lust after salty, sweet food constantly.

>>42597467
Fructose is poorly digested and is better used as a laxative. Hence getting the shits from too much apple juice. Also the effectiveness of prune juice.

>>42597118
Got any links, i'm finding a lot of research that contradict each other.

>>42597576
Fruit is fine while losing, fruit juice is not.

>>42597676
Man this general is deluded. Why do I even come here? Good luck /fat/ies trying to lose weight. These guys are worse than the /fit/fags that think eating oats will build muscle.

Please go somewhere else. I know I will.

>>42597676
"Fruit" is still unwanted SUGAR
You're better off eating something fibrous instead.

>>42595883
>cheat month
You are a failure

>>42596271
>Some people have somehow managed to cope with the vinegar as is
Those people are retarded. It's literally acid almost as strong as battery acid and those people are going to wreck their teeth and throat.

>>42596769
>heavy cream
Why would anyone do that? It's 50 calories per tbsp of heavy cream.

>>42594763
Same height, currently at 159 lbs or 72.1 kg. When did your man titties go away if they have at all?

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It's not much, but I hit a milestone today. Over 15 pounds lost since July 4th. From 330 to 314.5. Long ways to go, but I might see the other side of 300 for the first time in 6-7 years soon.

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>>42597739
Fruit is fibrous. Apples and oranges are two of the best foods you can eat for weight loss and almost all fruit at least falls into the "good" category. A few, like dates, are packed with sugar, but they're the exception not the rule. Even those are better than bread and potatoes, which I see in non-cheat meals all the time ITT.

>Less than 2 pounds from my first milestone
We're going to make it bros

I'm male, 5 foot 6 and currently 210 pounds. When I was at my lowest weight (148 pounds), I still looked chubby. Should I bother trying to get that low again, or should I bulk instead of cutting?

>>42595009
You don't have bitch tits, bitch.

>>42595017
Stronglifts 5x5

>>42598265
Hope you mean months senpai, either way good work.
>>42598366
Noice, me too. 6ft 2 I just hit 86kg from 91 for the first time since I was a kid I guess. Realising now that the belly isn't gonna go away until I get to like 70 though.

>>42594748
>1 week
>No you will not make it

>>42596752
>Only downside
>Forgeting to mention sitting your brains out uncontrollably

>>42598523
Worded it weird. Yes. In a few months. I meant I haven't seen the other side of 300 in years. Thanks anon.

Does it make a difference when you eat after a work out if you are cutting? I coulda sworn I was told to avoid eating like an hour after working out or something.

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>Workout A:
>3x5 squat
>4x5 bench
>2x5 deadlift
>2x10 curl
>Workout B:
>3x5 squat
>4x5 ohp
>4x5 row
>2x10 calf raises
>2x5 chinups
Is this decent to start with? Not actually sure I can do a chinup yet.

I hate looking at my belly

>>42598523
Same here. My ass and waist have shrunk a lot but my belly is still huge. On the plus side my arms are getting more muscular. Going to have to go shopping for smaller pants tomorrow but shirts with bigger arms. I'm feel like I'm going to end up looking like a freak for a few months after awhile with fairly muscular arms and legs a big potbelly. Anyone got tips on burning belly fat? I'm doing some ab workouts and have lost an inch around my navel since I started exercising but it is being extremely persistent while everything else has lost a noticeable amount of fat.

Also does anyone else start feeling really depressed when they don't do an significant amount of exercise for a few days? I psychologically feel like shit over the weekends until Monday when I exercise again (I exercise at my works gym).

>>42598699
>burning belly fat

It doesn't work that way. You can't focus on losing fat in a specific area, your body just loses it as it loses it.

Cut your bf% low (like 15% or lower) to really see your belly fat and moobs disappear.

>>42594544
Every night after work I consistently go to COOKOUT and get 2 trays. When ordering the second tray I always say "they want". I then eat it all 20 mins later.

>>42598699
I feel the same now after just a month of working out. Never used to give a shit about exercise but it's amazing how your mindset changes once you make it a habit.

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Ended up missing a good workout because I had a mandatory CPR class for my work tonight.

>cons: I only got a 10 minute jog in before the class started

>pros: If an old man at the gym starts to die on us I know cpr now to save him

>>42597721
yeah, how did /fit/ become more retarded than weight loss subreddits?

>>42596641
>I know giving up candy is hard for you fat fucks

Carbs aren't candy you fucking retard. I know being autistic makes it hard for you to accept not everyone buys into your shitty meme diet but believe it or not just because people aren't doing what you do doesn't mean they're unhappy.

>>42599037
>Carbs aren't candy
ya, carbs are cancer

>>42596118
the "sugar from fruit is bad" meme is a meme and nothing more. just dont eat craploads of it, and eat lower calorie fruits in smaller portions. don't eat bananas.

>>42599049
>meme diets are cancer

ftfy

>>42599119
>sugar from fruit being bad is a meme but don't eat much fruit and eat the lower calorie fruit with less sugar and don't eat the higher calorie fruit with more sugar

k

I just ordered a pizza and now it's on its way and I'm regretting. what do I do? toss it? leave it on the porch? give it to a stranger? eat it, but then fast for the next two days?

>>42599178
you know you're just gonna eat it but for in the future:
http://www.digiorno.com/products/ultra-thin-pizza/ultra-thin-pizza/11844/digiorno-ultra-thin-sausage-supreme

>>42599178
Eat one or two slices. That's a meal for you now. It could last a day or two.

>>42599178
Just eat the slices slowly over the next few days

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100 day streak in MFP! Feels good, man

>>42599188
This, I don't get why would you throw it away

>>42599224
How many calories do you eat a day?

>>42599305
1300, but that's only for the past two months or so. When I started I was eating 17/18000

TDEE is around 2,000,obviously it started a bit higher and has gone down as I lost weight.

>>42599178
Eat half, fast tomorrow, eat the other half, eat healthy the rest of the week.

>>42599321
>eating 18000 calories a day
holy shit thats one filthy bulk

>>42596012
what fats are good to use for cooking then?

>>42599453
just cut off your own and use it, it's basically negative calories

>>42595743
>how do I start seeing what others see?
not happening, but try to get rid of the negative self-talk at least. try to see yourself as improving, and take pride in that. eventually you may be able to escape lingering fatty dysmorphia

>>42599178
What I do is eat a bit and freeze the rest. If it's not shitty pizza, it'll taste fine when you take it out and reheat it.

how much honey pepper lemon cucumber cinnamon water do i need to drink every day, the doctor says i have prediabetes but my sisters wedding is in 3 days so i gotta get rid of it before then

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>>42599593

>>42598820
The Murray Cookout?

>>42599593
this is bait, it must be

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>>42588256
319 today, same as yesterday, v6lbs from start.

4.2mi on treadmill today, 57.2mi total.

Today is 1 month since I started tracking/attempting to lose weight. Feeling good.

>>42599593
You forgot to add the apple cider vinegar.

I fell off but it is time to start right. I am the heaviest I have ever been. 5'5 282.6 pounds https://youtu.be/NZqo7iFXsDI

>>42599703
nah this aint in KY is that food chain though

>>42599839
Wish I bothered taking video of my fat ass when I started losing weight instead of just a few photos.
Good luck to you, fat bro.

>going in to the dentist tomorrow for my abscess tooth
>the gum infections pain and swelling is gone can't feel anything abnormal on my gums

Well hopefully they can just pull this tooth and be done with it. I'm at 240 and I haven't done cardio in like a month. I haven't lost or gained weight but the recent infection was from drinking a bunch of soda in a binge. I'm fucking done with it all, that pain was... not okay.

Its different guys. I don't feel interested in food and drink anymore, they don't bring me joy, I just going to drink water because its basically free and I'll eat whatever is for dinner I guess so I don't starve. That pain has changed me, its not worth it.

Promised myself a HSP once I hit 74kg, weighed in at 75.8kg this morning.
So close ;_; it's been 2-3 months since i had one

>>42599823
>1 month since I started tracking/attempting to lose weight
Nice anon, same here. It's already feeling easier to keep up the good habits after a month.

>>42599909

>tfw wisdom teeth removal incoming
>4 of them
>one is penetrating my sinus cavity

i'm so fucking scared it's crazy, I hope they can make me SUPER unconscious or i'm gonna freak out

Last meal was 7PM... Next one 6PM tomorrow. 23 hour fast. But hey gonna break it with 2 jerk chickens and cup of Java rice. Then doing a 16:8.

Wish me luck

>>42596217

Cron-o-meter

>>42599839
probably should've sat on that video until you actually have some results

>>42597174

https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/sodium-your-secret-weapon

>>42599908
thanks bro! we got this

>>42599958
I will post every Tuesday and make a big transformation video when it is time

>>42600008
you should take a photo every day and make a time lapse, I've searched for a video to see if anyone made one but i couldnt find any

>>42600086
I would but there are so many fluctuations during the day and this is gonna be a loooooong journey

>>42594544
Gave blood today and jew'd myself into thinking that justified two take out meals

>go to myfitnesspal
>everything is listed in cups and oz
What the fuck is an oz? Fucking amerifats.

>>42600129
find the guy that doesn't smoke weed
ounce is 28grams
Fluid is different though

>>42596769
Enjoy staying fat you fat faggot fuck

>>42598567
Never happens to me. Your diet is probably fucked and you're probably retarded.

>>42594544
I had a McDonald's burger yesterday. Didn't break my deficit but it was completely unfilling, left me hungrier than I was before I had it and it didn't even taste good.

>>42600097
How are you using "jew" in this context? Because it doesn't make sense. Do you mean convinced? Tricked?

Jew as a derogatory verb generally refers to shameless buisness practices for more money, like "Bungie is really jewing us with Destiny 2"

>>42600237
Two hamburgers is only 500 calories and is perfectly fine for quelling hunger. Plus its cheap, only 2 bucks.

Your desire to literally fill your entire belly is dumb.

>>42600317
Yeah nah, it was a 600 calorie burger and left me more unfilfilled than a 99 cal can of tuna. Because it has no nutritional value. You can fill yourself up and stay at a deficit very easily, I was just a dumbass and went to McD's because it was late and I was lazy.

>>42595009

Those aren't bitch tits

But the answer is yes

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>>42600345
you and your memes

>wasn't 'filling
>was still hungry

never gonna make it if you can't handle grabbing a snack at mcdonalds and have to buy the most lardass big mac with extra cheese you can.

>>42597118
Wait, are beans healthy? I fuckin hope so.

>>42600420
It was a chicken burger. All McDonald's is shit and it sounds like you're just making excuses for yourself to keep going there. Good luck my guy.

>started at 315
>now at 240
>only about 30 pounds away from no longer being classified as obese

I'm gonna make it anons.

>>42600450
They're top tier diet food if you avoid the canned stuff that's got a ton of added sugar.

so is keto good or not then

>>42600574
Try it, see if you like it.

It might be unhealthy in the long run. It's absolutely helped people lose weight.

It doesn't seem like a long term dietary solution to me, though. A more balanced diet just seems safer. But for weight loss, for short term, I don't see how it could do much damage.

>>42600593
I've been doing it for a few days, i just want to run it for a month or two tops.

>>42600593
From what's I've gathered most people do keto for a set amount of time (usually with IF) and then go back to a normal diet afterwards

>gf broke up with me in October
>stress of the relationship and laziness put me at 218-220 lbs
>decide after a few months to lose weight since I was already losing form lack of stress and eating better
>now at 183
>goal is to hit 160 before November

can I do it boys? family members came to town twice this week so I may not be sub 180 when August ends.

>>42600632
just don't eat excessive portions
eat lesser amounts and you'll be fine

>>42600655

bruh I am probably doing 1200-1400 calories per day with 3 mile runs on MWF and barbells on TTH.

I still have no idea how to do strength training. need to look around fit more.

this is so fuckin weird dudes
I don't recognise my own body in the mirror
everything feels different
why didn't I do this years ago

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Maybe 2 cheat days in a row is fine...

>>42600836
read the god damn sticky
What's your TDEE, cause that number seems far too low to be a healthy deficit for someone who's in /fat/

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>>42600846
god damn it anon... keep up

>>42600846
dude go for three. hit the old country buffet and just go ham on the pineapple and cottage cheese they put out

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>>42600846
definitely, pat yourself on the back for losing 200 pounds! We're all proud of you Tanner Bean!

Started yesterday at 8pm with a fast
I'll try to make it to 7pm this evening for almost a full day of fasting.

Water, tea and coffee with a bit of milk should be okay right?

>>42601078
start thinking long term or you'll never make it.

Come back when you've read the sticky and agree with every word of it. Otherwise, fuck off.

>>42601122
Why so edgy? I've been on fit for years, I don't have to reread the sticky.

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>>42597588
nutritiondata.self.com

Of course they could be lying but I don't think they would stay up for long if they were serving false data.

Protein shake for breakfast

Oatmeal and almonds for lunch

Chicken and veggies for dinner, with various homemade spice mixes

every day, losing weight, feeling good, thank you fat fucks

>>42596972
that'll take at least 3 years as a natty

>>42598678
bench and row should be together imo
https://youtu.be/KYaP3yCyHRY?t=151

Can someone recommend a good scale to weigh myself? The last one I had started to fluctuate by 7-10lbs and the one I have now is analog, but I prefer a digital one that measures tenths.

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I will literally never understand skellies. How do they manage to eat so little?

>>42601322
>tfw physically a skelly
>tfw mentally a fatty
don't know where to go from here

>>42601322
no eating disorder

>>42601322
I always think the main difference is how people grew up. Fatties were conditioned to eat crap and more of it, while I imagine skellies didn't have shit tier parents.

>>42601322
My guess is their metabolism is really inefficient (or just configured differently) than ours.
We know you can't accumulate weight from nothing, but it's entirely possible to not store everything you eat with 100% efficiency.

>>42601367
Not sure
Personally I think it was because my mum gave me and my sister shit foods. It wasn't that it was unhealthy (which it was), but just cheap stuff. Tinned meat like spam and corned beef, frozen pizzas, findus crispy pancakes (google it), chicken kievs, chips with pretty much every meal, half the plate was chips.

When I was old enough to start earning money and get my own food, I got the nice stuff, the expensive stuff. I remember the day I first got paid from my paper round I went and bought a thorntons chocolate chip loaf cake and ate the entire thing in one go. I'd have mcdonalds as often as I could because I'd never had it before. That pretty much set me on the path to fatassdom.

>>42601428
Metabolic differences between the individuals just don't vary that highly.
Give two people the same diet for a month and you'll see similar changes in weight up to 5-10%. 100% is ludicrous and doesn't happen even in people with confirmed metabolic diseases. If it did then they'd be in an ICU because there's no way you can have something that severe and not know about it.

They just underestimate calories, the same as fat people do.
Tell a typical fatty how much 2,000 calories is and they won't believe you. Same with skellies.

is there any reason not to exercise if you have DOMS

>>42601477
being a pussy, but that's more of an excuse

>>42601477

Don't try getting out of it, fatty. Warm up properly, and you'll feel much better. Go exercise.

>>42601470
I don't know, there's a guy at my work who's a skelly who easily eats over his BMR in my sight, and according to him he still eats a breakfast and supper at home. He eats huge portions of calorie dense foods, white bread, processed meats, pasta, bigger servings than I do of salads. He goes running but not more than an hour a day.
So unless he lies and starves himself at home and works out for hours to play a joke on the fatty at work, he simply doesn't store fat with the same efficiency as me.

>>42594517
If you're fat you're gonna fuck up your fingers.

>>42601530
Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon

I eat like a pig at work sometimes, but I'm borderline underweight.
By other people's rationale I'm a physical paradox.

>>42594763
>I dont have much more weight I can lose (male, 5'6, 67.5kg)
You can lose at least another 7,5kg anon.

>>42594548
My TDEE is 2100 and I eat only 1000 every day and I feel fine.

>>42601639
>I eat only 1000 every day
Never go under 1300.

>>42601658
Or what? I eat 1000, sometimes less, for a month now and I'm okay. I don't even feel hungry.

>>42601658
things didn't start fucking up for me until I tried aiming for 1500 minimum
I just became so hungry all the time

>>42594544
started diet monday, i am about 20kg overweight.
eating 1000 cal per day and 16:8 fasting.
pretty chill so far. just drink cofee and tea to kill the urges you fatsos.

>>42601663
nothing will happen, starvation mode doesnt exist

>>42601680
I do the exact same thing, 1000 cal 16:8.
When's your window? I found that 9am to 5pm works best for me.

>>42595296
looks comfy as fuck.

>>42601689
Malnutrition does though, unless he's taking a fuckload of multivitamins, it's not a good idea

>>42601714
>>42601714

HERD

>>42601714
>>42601714

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>>42595296

>>42601721
Vitamins aren't dependant on calories though.

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>>42601658
I eat 1260

>>42601367
for me personally we were poor and ate a bunch of shit but it didnt matter because i was an athlete training 5 days a week

then i went to college and kept my shitty eating habits without exercise so it made me balloon up

5 years out i need to take off the 70 pounds and hopefully get back to 150 (at 6'0)

>>42601723
>no wojak

Fake thread.