Is olylifting the biggest fitness redpill there is?

>>42564501
what do you think redpill means?

>>42564515
"To open someone's eyes and mind to the secret truth of something important."
-Urban Dictionary

>>42564501
>>42564515
>What people think 'redpill' means:
Discovering the truth, unpluging from the matrix
>What it actually means
Buying into a separate ideology from mainstream culture // modern liberalism

>>42564501
It's the biggest meme. Literally training to compete in a sport that you'll never actually compete in. Just get stronger with regular barbell lifts.

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>>42564623
>Literally training to compete in a sport that you'll never actually compete in
Oh, I'm sorry. What is powerlifting then? Or bodybuilding?
Oly Lifting is much more than just training to get stronger. It's training to become explosive. Just as powerlifting is training to become strong and bodybuilding is training to become huge.

Oly lifting is THE most aesthetic out of the three. Bodybuilding is too focused on building muscle than to care it actually looks good, and powerlifting is too focused on building strength without caring for bodyweight.

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>>42564701
Oly-lifting? More like fag-lifting!

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>>42564701

>tfw youre 26 years old and too old to reach xiaojun mode in strength or aestethics

>>42564851
you werent gonna reach his strength whatever age you started m8

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>>42564623
>Literally training to compete in a sport that you'll never actually compete in
What did he mean by this?

>>42564501
i've only ever seen scrawny virgins doing olympic lifts irl

>>42565257
Probably because actual weightlifters tend to not train in commercial gyms.

It's also not "olympic lifts" or "oly lifting", the sport is called weightlifting.

>not doing a clean and press
Tell me when whipping anything over your shoulder is better then placing it there.

>>42565279
powerlifters and IFBB pros tend not to train in commercial gyms either, yet I see plenty of people with respectably physiques and gfs doing """"the big 3""" and bbing exercises

>>42564701
Literally LMFAO @ anyone who doesn't incorporate all 3

>>42565295
That's because those are practical lifts that make sense for anyone not training to compete in weightlifting. It makes as much sense for non weightlifters to train oly lifts for strength and size as it does running football drills.

>>42565325
exactly the point i was making anon, olympic lifts are a meme unless you intend to compete in wl

there are easier ways to develop RFP as well that are not as technical

>>42565295
>IFBB pros tend not to train in commercial gyms
This is false, at least where I live physique competitors and bodybuilders or whatever invariably train at commercial gyms.

Weightlifters and powerlifters however are organized into clubs and train at their own gyms. The powerlifts are also done by most everything as they're the simplest and arguably most potent postural strengthening exercises.

I live in brazil so all we have here are commercial gyms and crossfit gyms. Never seen someone even mention the word powerlifting or olympic weightlifting , not even the instructors/PT know what those are, it's mind blowing. Normies get impressed as fuck when they see me squatting 160kg(350) and dling 180kg (almost 400), or benching 120kg(265), and I'm literally dyel mode skynnyfat.

I have never seen someone doing cleans, snatches or clean & jerks correctly. I rearely see crossfit dudes doing cleans (more like a row turning into a poverty front squat) with utter shit form.

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>>42564701
>Bodybuilding is too focused on building muscle than to care it actually looks

>>42564701
>powerlifting is too focused on building strength without caring for bodyweight

It's a weight class sport, retard. Bodyweight is of utmost importance. Everybody is that is worth a damn and weighs <242 is lean as fuck. Fat guys in your gym aren't powerlifters. They just dudes that do S/B/D.

>>42564501
It really is the biggest meme. Snatch and clean and jerk are just high precision trick lifts with little benefit outside of weightlifting.

>muh explosiveness

Better trained with power cleans and hex bar jump squats

>muh aesthetic chinese lifter

Pretty much any 181, 198, or 220 powerlifter that is actually good at the sport will look just as good.

>>42565562
Literally for what purpose? Looks fun.

>>42565562
>>42565528
d-d-don't stop

>>42565163
Id be happy with 0.5 Xiaojun but its too late for me

>>42565287
Cause it was way too difficult to judge.

It used to be the clean and press. But guys would arch their back and pretty much bench press during it.

Now it's the clean and jerk.

Why would you fucking care if your explosive strength was developed through olympic movements, power cleans, or just heavy barbell work? At the end of the day, you're not competing in either so you should just pick exercises that give you good results and feel natural to you. No reason to hinder your training so you can add 5lbs to your snatch by the end of the season when you could be adding 50lbs to your back squat, and viceversa. The redpill of fitness is not being a retard.

>>42565562
Please more

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>>42565538
Don't try to pull that bullshit on me. If bodybuilding were about aesthetics, Frank Zane would be Mr. Olympia 10 years running

>>42565528
>>42565562
wtf i'm in love now, fuck you

>>42565598
It's a seated good morning, pretty much the best exercise there is for hip/hamstring flexibility and lower back strength.

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>>42565324
This. Everyone should do all 3 to get maximum gainz

>>42564701
to be fair, getting into powerlifting is way easier and way more approachable than oly lifting or even bodybuilding. of the three, its most likely that a normie would compete in powerlifting

>>42565983
It's not really more approachable than weightlifting.

Bodybuilding yes, because that pretty much requires drugs and you really need to want to look like a literal cow.

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>>42565528
>>42565562

how come nobody's ever made The Virgin Powerlifter/The Chad Weightlifter

>>42565690
Nigga explosiveness can't be taught doing any variation of squat or deadlift. Olympic lifts are the superior method of training explosiveness

>>42565832
i agree, it's like dorian yates said in JRE podcast, the bigger guy is always going to win.

>>42565832
those fucking LATS

what a man

>>42565528
who dis

>>42565596
>candito

>>42565528
name? sauce?

>>42564501

sauce on blue tights is sasha nievas

she's a mediocre crossfitter in Miami now

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>>42564501
I wanna lick her sweaty bumhole.

>>42564501
i fucking hate oly lifters at any gym fucking assholes throwing down their 95lb snatch loud as possible like theyre hot shit
also all of them always have that smug fucking face when they do those fucking meme lifts
oly lifters who arent actually in the olympics can suck it

>>42564701
>Oly lifting is THE most aesthetic
what you're looking at is people that have decades of training and roids
>Bodybuilding is too focused on building muscle than to care it actually looks good
if you're talking about the joke 'sport' where men inject themselves with roids and '''compete''' in speedos then yes but people that just want more muscle without going overboard is nothing wrong
>powerlifting is too focused on building strength without caring for bodyweight.
what are weight classes for then?

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>>42567143
>what are weight classes for then?
The way that most powerlifters take it is a suggestion
In powerlifting being fat has better advantages than being skinny.
If you're a 6' guy at 180lbs with really lean composition, you'll get blown the fuck out by 5'5" guys at the same weight but a much higher body fat percentage because the fat presses up against the body in a squat giving a more stable lift

It's different in Oly lifting where higher than maybe 18% body fat is a detriment to the lift because that is mass that isn't moving the weight
>Many cross-sectional studies have reported greater BMD and BMC in Olympic weightlifters (Virvidakis et al. 1990; Conroy et al. 1993; Karlsson et al. 1995; Heinonen et al. 1993; 2002; Nikander et al. 2005), which is of interest to researchers working to prevent osteoporosis. Additionally, several studies have found that Olympic weightlifters are leaner in comparison with control subjects (Katch et al. 1980; Stoessel et al. 1991), being similar in body composition (around 10% body fat) to bodybuilders during a standard training period (Katch et al. 1980). Finally, Olympic weightlifters routinely display much greater muscle size (Tesch et al. 1984; 1985; 1989) and muscle mass (Katch et al. 1980) in comparison with control subjects. Additionally, this muscle is more pronounced in areas that contribute to performance in their sport and this differs from the muscular development observed in other strength and power athletes (Katch et al. 1980; Kanehisa et al. 1998; 1999a; Huygens et al. 2002).
>Bodyweight and body fat percentage are widely recognised as key drivers, with higher bodyweight and lower body fat percentage being associated with superior ability (Sinclair, 1985; Thé & Ploutz-Snyder 2003; Fry et al. 2006; Mattiuzzi & Lippi 2014)

>>42567399
>best wilks score is at his leanest
Really jogs my noggin.

Also really jogs my noggin how somehow the heaviest SHWs are the best weightlifters? Even though added fat mass doesn't aid in weightlifting?!? wonder how this works out.

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>>42566547
no

>>42567419
Hey man, you mentioned the weight classes and I gave you the truth. Everyone in powerlifting practically ENCOURAGES you to be obese.
Powerlifting in a weightclass creates so you could be your strongest just means that you'll end up fat.

I gave you the statistics.
>(oly lifters) being similar in body composition (around 10% body fat) to bodybuilders during a standard training period
I can't find similar studies done on powerlifters

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>>42567419
Also
>Also really jogs my noggin how somehow the heaviest SHWs are the best weightlifters?
SHW are never regarded to as the best weightlifters? Sure, they're the ones that can move the most weight, but that's because of an increase in training capacity from an increase in caloric intake.
And definitely in comparison to powerlifting. Our super heavy weights are +105kg. Powerlifting super heavy weights are +120kg
Pic related shows the +105kg weight class Snatch/total record holder. In comparison to the fatfucks in powerlifting, he looks small.

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>>42567559
>Everyone in powerlifting practically ENCOURAGES you to be obese.
>Powerlifting in a weightclass creates so you could be your strongest just means that you'll end up fat.
"no"

And of course you're gonna be as low body fat as possible in a restricted weight class, but that doesn't mean that fat is necessarily a disadvantage, otherwise the heaviest SHWs wouldn't win 10/10 times.

>>42564534
>Discovering the truth, unpluging from the matrix

Close. More like " Discovering the truth, plugging into th3 'ch0n."

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>>42565528
>>42566225
>>42566394
Sasha Nievas
>tfw she followed me on IG and favorited a few of my posts

>>42564501
can I get some sauce for that video, spent the last hour sifting through hundreds of the hookgrip videos. cheers.

>>42567580
>otherwise the heaviest SHWs wouldn't win 10/10 times.
What do you mean by win? Do you mean having the highest total? Oly lifting is also a weight classed sport so totals are dependent on the the weight class. A +105kg oly lifter can't win a 53kg weight class.
Ultimately the BEST oly lifters are regarded to by their weight class and skill. Look up the hookgrip channel. They very consistently show people of different weight classes like Maddy Myers, probably the best female oly lifter in the USA.

People like Ilya Ilyin in the 105kg weight class are regarded to very high regard, and yet he's not part of the super heavyweight crowd.

>>42564515
Least Jewish

>>42567629
Win their fucking class you dumbass, surprisingly, the heaviest guy wins pretty much every fucking time, which would NOT hold true if your statement about added fat not helping was true.

Ilya also corroborates this example, as he's well over 20% body fat as a 105kg lifter.

>>42565279
>Probably because actual weightlifters tend to not train in commercial gyms.
See plenty of 3.5+ benchers in my gym, competition lifting is the real meme

>>42566076
lol youve got it backwards buddy

>>42565957
Im gonna get some shit for this, on the left its RnM, but whats in the right?
King Star King or something?

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>>42567669
>Win their fucking class you dumbass, surprisingly
So the heaviest person in the 105kg category would win their class? Well duh because that allows for more muscle mass you idiot.
Are we talking about about the same thing?

>if your statement about added fat not helping was true
Look up ANY oly lifter in the Hookgrip channel that's not +105kg and just look how lean they are. Fat does not help in oly lifting. Fat may be an indication of training because of the calorie surplus they go under, but if I injected fat into my body I do not become a better oly lifter. The same can't be said for powerlifters.

>he's well over 20% body fat as a 105kg lifter.
I've never seen a pic of him topless that's not just off season stuff. I don't even know if he said what his body fat percentage is. I'd say at the very most 16-18%.
But pictures of him can be deceiving, since he doesn't really workout chest triceps or biceps very much, so it'll make his upper body look very fatty but his lower body very lean.

A better suggestion would be to look at Klokov. He's in the 105kg weight class too. While his last competition he scored 3rd place in 2013, it's very obvious he's incredibly lean

>>42567734
you cherrypicked the only lean guy in the 105kg category

>>42567723
Xavier: Renegade Angel

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>>42567745
Ruslan Nurudinov (pic related), winner of the 2016 Rio Olympics in the 105kg weight class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVVlZpWlUzw

Olekisy Torokhtiy, winner of the 2012 London Olympics in the 105kg weight class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61dhC4erQPQ

Andrei Aramnau, winner of the 2008 Olympics in the 105kg weight class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARL0QSn7s9s

Now you can't really judge the lifter's body fat in this clothes, but just looking at the vascularity of their forearms, they can't be more than 18% body fat. It's just impossible for them to have vascular forearms.

>>42567801
Olekisy is the only one without lots of fat, and he is full golem bearmode

>>42567734
yeah, the whole reason Oly Lifters are fat is because the SHWs require a much higher caloric intake than the body can effectively process.

>>42567801
to be fair, Aramnau wasn't very lean when he won gold

Ruslan and Klokov were though

>>42567794
thanks anon

>>42567823
m8 I have ZERO understanding of what you said.

>>42567622
Don't you mean liked some of your posts or is that a feature on IG I don't know about?

>>42564623
I just do oly cause its more fun than the slow and boring lifts. But I also incorporate bodyweight, compounds and isolations.

What I found most intriguing about oly is the time you have to spend to learn technique and build flexibility. I think it is just good for your body. I will never compete or hit any significant numbers but who cares as long as i have fun, am healthy and look good.

>>42564501
>>42565528
>>42565562
goodness MUH DICK
but jokes aside. i wanna fuck these girls all night and then eat them for breakfast.
actually ill tell you what. is a lifting GF ok if she oly?

>>42565528
I want to fuck her as much as the next dude, but seriously, how do I get this flexible?

>>42565832
Champ did you send out your resumes to get the job? You gotta give em a strong handshake Champ.

>>42568196
>I think it is just good for your body. I will never compete or hit any significant numbers but who cares as long as i have fun, am healthy and look good.

Fucking this. Lifts are fun as fuck plus after some time I've been doing them my posture improved greatly.

>>42567583
kekked

>>42564501
It is the biggest blue pill. Oly lifting is extremely inefficient in building muscle, you will find yourself wasting huge amounts of time practicing 2 meme lifts without any proper results. You will also never compete anyways unless you start at young age and get proper chinese roids.

The biggest redpill of fitness is powerbuilding: the fastest way to get strong and look good. Period. Ive been observing guys come and go to my gym for 10 years now, the 'oly lifters' always looked like absolute shit and made the worst progress.

oly lifts look dangerous as hell, I keep expecting that someone who does snatches is going to tear their shoulders

>>42564501
oly lifting is like having a beard
if you are a woodcutter in buttfuck nowhere then your beard is manly is fuck, but if you live in a suburbs you are just another fuccboi
Similarly if you are snathing a fuckton of weight you are a badass motherfucker but you are probably another tool flopping around with like 40 kgs

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There's a worrying lack of Lydia in here

>>42564701
it took me 3 months to get a correct oly form and i still have shit form.

its hard to get into but once you do, its fun as fuck. literally the most enjoyable to progress in and make technical analysis about. also impressive as fuck to the average person.

>>42564501
Not really. It doesn't have any carryover to anything else, and most women who do it are whores(just look at the webms posted here).

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>>42567745
105kg guys never cut weight like the lower categories. this is a pointless comparison.

they do it after they win but all are mobile as fuck and guaranteed to be more athletic and faster than you.

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>>42569190
>no carryover

the diddlylift and squat has 0 carryover as well then by this dumb logic.

I matched on Tinder with /oly/ qt3.14 from my gym, but I can barely 1/2/3/4 and I'm way uglier than my Tinder profile suggests. How do I into Klokov-mode within a month to impress her and slay that puss?

>>42564701
> Bodybuilding is too focused on building muscle than to care it actually looks good
>powerlifting is too focused on building strength without caring for bodyweight.

you're actually an idiot

>>42569273
>A bunch of very technical lifts that take months to years to be not shit at are good to develop strength or other qualities for other sports
Lmao, you're actually retarded. Why not go and learn breakdancing to get better reflexes for baseball while you're at it.

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>>42565596

Are you mentally handicap?

Oh no you're worse, you're a powerlifter.

power cleans come from cleans and hex bar jump the fuck outta here with this weak ass lifts lol.

Weightlifting is the Pinnacle training and sport for explosiveness and power.

Sprinters practice weightlifting my dude.

The powerlifter might look as good as a weightlifter, but will never be as a strong as a weightlifter.

Any weightlifter can change sports and be great at the chosen sport. Powerlifters can't, hell a weightlifter can beat powerlifters at their own sport. Powerlifting is for the retards in the strength sports sphere.

>>42567622
whats her account? searched the name i dont think any of the results are her

>>42569746
>that spacing
Go back Reddit cuck

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>>42564501
blue pill for me

>>42565528
why this does excite me?

>>42567399
damn that delt imbalance
>SHEEEEIIIIIITT

>>42569825
https://www.instagram.com/sashunidos/

>>42564623

But I do compete you fucking cunt.

>>42567575

That's because he's also two meters tall.

>>42569746
>Any weightlifter can change sports
Hahahahahahahaha

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wl is hella fun. My mobility sucks for completing a full snatch but cleans are a regular part of my routine.

>>42564501
why do people do autistic clean and presses?
literally flip it up to your chest, breathe in, press up.
It's a 4 part exercise these faggot manage to make it a three part and lose half the gains.

>>42569289

DBOL will put 7-10kg of muscle/fat/bloat on you in less than 5 weeks and your big compounds may go up by almost 30%. Don't go over 40mg per day, and you might even be better on 10-20.

>>42569746

Weightlifting isn't an either/or. The snatch/C&J are movements that 'reveal' strength rather than develop it and weightlifters use squats, high pulls and - gasp! - even curls to actually develop it.

This misunderstanding, and nerds on here and reddit shouting 'TECHNIQUE!!!!1one", is why so few cunts on the net can't snatch/c&j for shit.

>>42568575
Be female

>>42571276

Try split-snatching rather than the squat. Some are better suited for it structurally and anyone starting squat-snatching post 25-30 will never get more than baby weight up.

>>42571495
Interesting, I had never heard of a split snatch, I'll have to check it out.

I broke my arm when I was younger and have issues with a strong overhead position. Thinking about going to a pt to get it sorted out. I have no problem getting in the squat position though.

fucking hate these oly lifting retards at my gym thinking they're cool
pls go do your 40kg snatches and 50kg power cleans outside thenx

>>42564501
You mean neck gains

>>42564501
>dat ass jiggle...
Wish I had a high rez close up

>>42567622
Holy shit didn't know she was an argie