>Most human males cannot make progress on a strength program

>>42561256
>The bigger you already are, the more food you need. A guy who is 6′2″ and skinny at 180 needs more calories and protein than a guy who is 5′8″ and skinny at 155. Guys like this may well need 6000 calories a day.

>>42561256
he's retarded because he's used to working with actual athletes while all the guys doing his program are weak goobers

I'm going to assume he isn't referring to people who are already obese.

>>42561263
Hoooly fuck lmao, I didn't realize mans was this retarded

He wants OBESE people that do SS to still eat at a surplus, because 'you can always take care of the fat later"

>>42561256
What is YOUR problem talking shit about other people on an anonymous image board? If you don't agree with someone's advice then don't fucking take it. For a young man who's very skinny, there's no fucking point in saying "ooh just eat an extra peanut butter sandwich every day :D", because they're skinny fucks who will do that and eat less of everything else because they're full, or just burn it off through the exercise/boosted metabolism.
Rip's advice isn't for fat fucks or ex-fat fucks who's bodies are already accustomed to carrying around lots of stored energy; it's for underweight guys who want to lift heavy-ass weights.

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>>42561263

Read the book. He says if you're fat eat 3000-3500 kcals with low carbs.

If you don't want to eat that much, don't eat that much. But then you'll come on /fit/ and bitch that your linear progression stalled after 3 weeks and cry about how your switching to Scooby's skateboard squat routine.

He is right to an extent though.

I tried out GOMAD for three weeks, and my lifts fucking exploded. Unfortunately, so did my gut.

As most of /fit/ knows, you really want to be as lean as possible before you start bulking.

>>42561256
I will never fall for this fucking meme again.

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>Listening to rippletits

https://www.t-nation.com/training/cold-slap-in-the-newbie-face

>For a guy that currently weighs 165 lbs., stands 5' 10" and is 20 years old, that diet will be much more food than he'll think he needs if his information has come from the typical sources of misinformation.

>He'll need 300 grams of protein, plenty of good fat, and moderate glycemic carbs for a total of perhaps 5-6000 calories per day.

No wonder he's a fat fuck. Shit training and nutrition advice.

Rippetoe's secret mission to turn young males into braphogs

>>42561256
wasn't his training aimed at high school / middle school athletes?

HERE are some problems with SS:

>1. You are guaranteed to gain strength on all the lifts. But only if you become fat as fuck.
If you eat like a normal person on a bulk of +500, then you will obviously progress. But Mark wants you to eat 1000+.

>2. Starting Strength is absolute SHIT for upperbody.
Same with stronglifts. LMAO how the FUCK do you expect to make any decent growth speed on benching 1.5x a week? Your arms, chest, and shoulders will lag severely behind your legs.

>3. STARTING STRENGTH IS NOT THE ONLY BEGINNER ROUTINE.
do NOT listen to anyone who blindly recommends you starting strength. they fell for the t-rex meme. It's not even a good program for getting into powerlifting because of how infrequently you deadlift and bench

>>42561265
Fucking Ronnie admitted to eating between 5-6k in offseason.

>>42561736
>how the FUCK do you expect to make any decent growth speed on benching 1.5x a week?

Because you are also pressing 1.5 times a week and doing chinups 1.5 times a week and cleans (or rows) 1.5 times per week. Literally pressing 3x per week. Objectively more upper body work than lower.

If you're overweight and want to lose fat you literally CAN NOT do SS. He wants you to eat at a surplus even if you're fat, the bare minimum calories you need to do the program is 3500 a day.

>>42561256
He suffers from PTSD from training underweight teenagers that won't eat enough and waste his and their time and energy.
His way to cope is to dial the nutrition of all his trainees UP, so he won't have to deal with that shit again.

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>>42561256
>tfw Zach actually had a decent back

>>42561256

I'm 6ft 174lbs and I need around 4000 calories every day or I'll lose weight.

Not my nor Rippetoe's fault you're a fucking manlet who need pre-agricultural revolution tier nutrition

>>42562264
>6'
>calling anyone a manlet

lmao

>>42561293

When the fuck did he say that?

>>42561736
> LMAO how the FUCK do you expect to make any decent growth speed on benching 1.5x a week?

Because you also press, do chins and cleans.

Who said you have to bench for the majority of your upper body volume?

There's also more overall upper body volume than lower.

SS is not a powerlifting program, so fuck your bench and fuck you too.

Rip's nutritional "advice" is still retarded though.

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He is probably right, strength routines are for getting stronger and youll gain strength faster doing that

however why? who gives a fuck about how much they bench? just lift to look better, no one gives a fuck about ur deadlift.

>>42562309
HAHA yeah preach it bro *fist bumps*

Why do you retards always complicate nutrition when it comes to bulking?

This is what any beginner should do:

1. Start with a base of 2-3 real, full meals per day that each has a decent ratio of carbs, fat & protein. This won't be enough for long, but start here.

2. Are you progressing, gaining weight at an acceptable rate, and not feeling lethargic all the time? Keep eating the same thing.

3. If any of the above happens, or even starts to slightly happen, like you're nearly missing the last 1-2 reps of every workout or you haven't gained any weight in a week or you feel miserable all the time? Add another meal. This can be a small as a protein shake with milk or something like 2 eggs + 250g quark or whatever. You should rarely feel hungry, but you shouldn't force down food either.

4. If things improve, keep eating the same thing. If not, add another small meal. Like another protein shake.

Just make a small review at the end of every week and go from there. That's all there is to it.

>>42562435
>tfw bulking is easy and cutting isn't

REE why did I have to eat so much and get up to 130kg, been stuck cutting for months to hit 99kg.

>>42562580
Because the human brain will rarely complain about eating too much. You might force feed yourself because you are or FEEL full, but it's rarely the brain rejecting the food, because of all the feel-good chemicals and whatnot.

Forcing yourself to not eat however is an entirely different beast. It's the intentional deprivation of said feel-good chemicals which is why it's so much harder. Like quitting a drug addiction, but the addiction never goes away.

>>42562614
To add to that. We tend operate on the short term, the very now. It's easy then to eat more than you should because your future self will have to take care of it.

Cutting is the opposite. Your present self has to suffer for your future self to feel good.

People who say bulking is harder must have a real fucked up relationship with food, because it goes against everything that makes you human.

>>42562658
he was viewing it from the biological side, you're doing it from the society side view.
Eating at a surplus would theoretically be beneficial because you could survive in case of famine or shit like that that's why the body won't deny much food.

Rippetoe ruins his entire advice catalogue by spouting nutritional nonsense. As far as I'm aware, he's corrected himself in recent years

>>42561256
>the avereg humen meil weighs 300 punds

>>42561399
Go to bed rippletits

>>42561465
Bulking with GOMAD is a meme.. then to mention the miniscule amount of research on TDEE affecting muscle rates.

>>42562184
Where?

you gotta eat big to get big

>>42561265
This. A lot of his dietary advice come from training high school athletes who are already very active, not NEET virgin shut-ins who never leave their computer

>>42562184
udder perfection

>>42561256
But he's right, and if you've ever done the Texas Method while on maintenance you'd realize that.
Eating more would always increase recovery

>>42562658
No yall just fat fucks who cant stop eating

>>42562022
OHP is inferior to bench when it comes to building the triceps, basically doesn't involve the chest, and is limited by the tiny front delts

it's the universal virgin lift for a reason

that guy chase who makes videos with rip looks strong as fuck, does he eat as much as rip tells him to?

>>42562295
>cleans
>upper body

Yeah ok.

>>42563093
>Tfw did TM on a cut for 2 months
Felt like bubba was going in dry every single day.
>>42563177
Is that the guy that ohp 3pl8 ?

>>42563312
>Is that the guy that ohp 3pl8 ?
idk maybe, the blonde guy

>>42561275
are you from new york wtf

>>42563312
>>42563345
he could ohp 242lb a year ago

https://youtu.be/eisLuWPn_BY

>>42561736
>hurr SS doesn't work upper body

ANCILLARY EXERCISES, PAGE 268
can none of you fucking idiots read?

>>42561256
this reminds me of that retarded cutting diet artikel
it was on some fitness mags website written by a roiding bodybuilder it basicly just gave you a diet to follow to loose wight diet was 4k+ calories a day

>>42562264
No, you don't, unless you've got parasites. I'm the same height as you and weigh more, and maintain around 2700.

>>42565196
You must have really high bodyfat% then, I'm 5'11 155 and maintain on 3k+

If you want to bulk up and put on muscle as fast as possible eat more.

If you don't wan't to add on extra body fat to do so don't eat as much.

Theres no need to complicate it. Just eat the right amount for your goals.

>>42565305
I don't think you understand how calories work friend. Unless you're running a marathon every day, you're not going to need 1500 calories more to maintain than someone larger than you.

A more specific diet with different macros,sure, but not calories.

>>42561602
Yes. He repeatedly says as much in his ask rip things whenever some fat fuck is like do I need to gomad?

>>42563151

There's nothing evolutionary beneficial about cutting, but bulking there's a lot.

It goes against our nature.

Like I said earlier, people who have a problem bulking probably has an unheatlhy relationship with food.

>>42562264
I'm 6' 170 and I'm able to maintain around 2800-2900 a day. 4000 is excessive, you're not fooling anyone. You're going to start packing on excessive fat if you keep that up.

Also
>being 6' and thinking you're tall

>>42565514
This isn't a question of opinion, I'm telling you, I eat 3k+ a day and maintain. Like I said you're prob close to 20% bodyfat. Muscle takes way more energy to maintain

>>42565671
Thanks for your armchair psychology, you fat fuck.

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As mentioned already, Rippletit's dietary advice is for actual athletes training for their respective sport. The people eating 4000 calories a day are training their sport 5-6 times a week in addition to strength training in the gym. His advice isn't meant for people who go to the gym 3 days a week to do a handful of compound lifts and go home.

>>42561263

>6000k a day

Maybe if you are training for my 600lb life.

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>>42565693
>he's not 6', Prince of Lanklets

He is correct.

My own experience was that when the lifts reached a certain number and i got less then 3500ckal i was not progressing. If you are late stage SS and putting up some serious numbers you need some serious fucking calories as well. The people who say this is wrong never did SS and/or have shit lifts.

>>42562264

>I'm a special snowflake!

You're BMR is 1800. You do not need 4kcal to maintain, and you have no muscle mass.

>>42565735
Sure you do dude, that's absolutely how the body works.

Here's a source proving you wrong, muscle really doesn't use that much energy. It does use more, but considering I have around 30lbs on you and am not fat, I doubt you're needing anywhere near as much as you claim
https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/metabolismcontroversy.html

Currently 3 months into SS. i'm doing it since it's simple enough to go to the gym, do 3 compound lifts and leave.
i'm currently on 1700 calories a day because i need to lose weight for military.
is it possible to still progress in adding weight to the bar like this?
stats (no bar)
squat - 140 lb 3x5
bench - 110 lb 3x5
deadlift - 180 3x5
ohp - 40 3x5
this is all with warm up sets
i was hoping to at least get my squat up to 2 plate. i can push myself more on deadlifts

>>42565981
4x5 at least man

>>42565981
Pretty sure you should have added chins by now.

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>>42565892
Here's a day of eating, not counting all the oil and snacks I have between meals. Been eating like this for months and I've been at the same weight. High bodyfat doesn't imply being overweight. You're probably skinnyfat

>>42566238
>myprotein cinnamon roll

myyy nigga.

>>42566148
noted, thanks.
>>42566169
i do pushups and pullups at home. dips at the gym

>>42561256
I can't find a fault here. 5'11, 29 years old, 175 lbs. My press stalled out just three weeks into the program. I was eating 2,500 calories/day trying to lean bulk. I wasn't able to make consistent progress until I went up to 3,500 calories.

>>42566238
Are you retarded? You claimed you maintain on 3k+, then when I called that out as bullshit for your weight and provided a source, you post a photo showing a list of foods that added up to less than 3000 calories.

Anyone can claim anything they like by the way, that doesn't make it true. Same as the original guy claiming to maintain on like 4000 calories was obviously not true.

I'm sure you're a special snowflake who medical science doesn't apply to though.

>>42561589
>300 grams of protein
rip kidneys

I started SS and I don't care what anyone says. Weight lifting is not making me lose weight. Even factoring in the calorie surplus. Better off doing cardio.

>>42568249
>SS
>not making me lose weight
>even factoring in the calorie surplus
what the fuck did you mean by this

>>42562147
i suspect this is the case as well

>>42563032
Not sure if subtle joke or illiterate

>>42563374
My lower fucking back hurts from seeing this.

>>42565762
>who go to the gym 3 days a week to do a handful of compound lifts and go home.
But that's his program in a nutshell

>>42563173
t. Dyel

>>42562264
Unless you're 10%bf and swimming every day on top of lifting and having an active job, no you don't.

>>42565762
>As mentioned already, Rippletit's dietary advice is for actual athletes training for their respective sport

No it's not, his diet advices are for anyone trying to complete SS the way it was intended to. He explained in detail that you CAN NOT compelte SS if you're not eating at least 3500 calories a day no matter no body composition

>>42568886
he's not wrong

>>42563173
>the press
>virgin lift

kys my dude, it's clearly the most alpha lift

Lmoa at all those brainlets who don't maintain with at least 4k kcals. My brain activities burn about 1500kcal a day.

>>42569013
and you're not a retard

I can lie on the internet too.

>>42561256
Did you actually read the book? He literally says fatties should cut

>>42569013
He is.

>>42561736
>I didn't read the book but I still have to talk shit, the post

>>42565196
Have you considered that some people may be more physically active than you?

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>>42568207

>>42570636
what do you think he's wrong about then?

>>42561293
Nah if you read SS he gives a set calorie range for obese people which will put them either into a slight deficit/maintenance/slight surplus depending on their weight. Their weight goal by the time they finish SS should be a little over 200. Saying that he has obese people always eat in a surplus though is simply incorrect.

>>42567782
I'm not saying I'm a special snowflake dumbass, I'm saying you're a sack of fat with barely any muscle mass. As for the 3k, read what I wrote dumbass. I don't track snacks or oils I use when cooking. Easily 500 cals with all the almonds and olive oil I eat

>>42570775
>g/kg/d

wtf kinda diff eq shit is this

>>42565783
>6000k a day
>6000k
>6000000
6 million Kcal is a lot

>>42571613
grams per kilograms per day


>>42570775
that study had SHIT methodology

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here's something all of you DYEL's don't know or don't want to know

lifting light doesn't do shit except waste your precious time
get stronger first, at the very least 1/2/3/4 and the fastest way to do that is SS + 4000 cals a day, I did it on about 3200 and hit 1/2/3/4 in 6 months but I'm a manlet
after that, you can work on your precious gay abs because it will be so much easier to lose weight when your daily calorie expendature is that much higher from at least having SOME muscle

so stop your shitty 1 plate benches for 20 reps and get on a strength training program, do it properly NOT how you think it's done but how it's actually done and you'll see results

you'll thank me in a year from now

>>42568249
you just have no muscle to speak of to drive your TDEE up

get more muscle and then try to lose weight
and stop with the shitty excuses

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>>42572352

>>42562320
>>42562309

good luck looking good benching 135.
well actually since you said who cares how much you bench, I'm gonna assume you wouldn't even bench, deadlift or squat at all.
in that case have fun gaining no real muscle looking the same year after year following some retarded bodybuilding.com program. Gotta supercharge those biceps with 3x15 cable curls, right bro?

>>42562435
>Like another protein shake

No. Always eat the reccommend amount for your bodyweight. If you want to add calories, add carbs.

>>42572517
What was your point by posting this?

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>>42572863
Lifting "light" is the best way for making gains.

>>42561256
Had a session with a personal trainer yesterday and asked him if 1g/lb of bodyweight was really necessary since Mentzer only consumed 100g in a day during his bodybuilding career and the trainer just stared at me for a moment before saying the rule of thumb was 1g/kg. Since 165g equals .36lb and people only gain .5lb of muscle in a week I'm pretty fucking sure my trainer was correct.

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>>42573050
Protein has part in enzymes, hormones, and other body chemicals; bones, muscles, cartilage, skin, and blood..

>Serotonin, B, Melatonin
>Dopamine, norepinephrine

This 1g/kg shit is underrepresentative at best, especially if training properly >>42572517.

>>42571606
I literally posted a source that demonstrates to you that what you are saying is bullshit, and you admitted you were lying in your original point.

Your only argument is "lol I bet ur fat", which is pretty pathetic mate. I'm not, but notice that in my source it mentions that muscle doesn't actually require that much more energy to maintain than fat? Certainly not enough to make up for a 30lb difference in weight. Keep defending those insecurities though dude, I'm sure everyone who weighs more than you is fat.

2800 if you're very physically active each day? Sure, that's believable. 3000+ at your weight to maintain? That's obvious bullshit, and what I called you out on.

>>42572970
what does "minimum sessions per week" mean? is it per muscle group? also, how many exercises per muscle group (for muscle mass category, lel)

>>42563516
You actually think anyone here read the book instead of just hearing some second hand account of how the program works?

REAL QUICK EVERYONE
Plz raise your hand if you actually read the book

>>42574691
Not everybody does an office job and drives their car there and back and only goes to do 3 autism days and goes back lad.

>>42574691
I work out for a good 1:30-2 hours every day on top of walking around campus and doing pullups at home whenever I walk by the bar I have. I eat 3k+ cals a day and maintain, solid fact. Sucks to be you I guess

>>42575768
As do I, except I also have a good half hour walk to get to the bus. Keep lying though mate, I'm sure the science doesn't apply to you, it's your magic genetics, right?

Keep on making assumptions about my daily activity or weight though, that'll surely discredit the PhDs who support me.

Maybe post another picture of you eating even less than you claim to?

>>42576176
I should add, I exercise around an hour and a half each day, and spend most of the rest of my day on campus, which obviously involves a bunch of walking. I don't use a pull-up bar each time, but the amount that adds to your tdee would be negligible.

>>42561465

>he doesn't know that he lifts more because of fat leverages

cute

>>42563516

>reading a book of 300 pages instead of just looking at a picture and improvising

I guess meatheads are really retarded

>inb4 you didn't follow the program
>muh autoregulation of ancilliary exercises while following the program

you don't realize the oxymoron don't you?

>>42576194
Dude I just showed you how I eat every day, maintaining and even losing weight on that. Like I said your bodyfat is most likely way higher than mine, you don't train like I do, and your muscle is negligible. Sucks to suck

>>42565981
Did you start at 0 lbs? How are you 3 months in with those weights? What's your height and weight and estimated bodyfat?

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>ask a simple question about SS on /fit/
>"read the book!"

I am not reading a 200 page book just to lift weights, sorry.

>>42576951
Sorry bro, but you're never gonna make it like that

>>42563516
>>42575088
secondhand account? we have numbers for that, this isn't hearsay. the routine has been written out, no little footnotes are going to change any of that, quit baiting with your "muh intelligence" attitude

>>42576352
Right, let's do some math then shall we. I weigh approximately 180lbs. You're claiming I'm around 20% body fat, right? That would mean I'm around 35lbs of fat, correct? 180-35 is 145, which would put me at around 10lbs less muscle than you if we assume you're 0% body fat (obviously not possible, but it's easier that way). Yet you're claiming your tdee is 500 at least higher than mine, because you go to the gym and walk around uni a bit, despite the fact that I also do both of those things, plus extra travel, and do weigh a fair amount more than you, meaning my tdee is higher at a base level.

What you're claiming just doesn't hold up unless like I said, you have a parasite or metabolic disorder or something. Sucks to feel the need to lie on an online image board I guess.

>>42578141
Dumbass for the last fucking time, I've shown you what I eat, there's no denying the amount of calories I eat day to day. Rationalize it as much as you want but your body is just garbage I guess

>>42576951
never gonna make it

>people to this day still shit on SS for themselves fucking up what is the simplest routine of all time

But muh volume, muh calories. Jesus christ, you need the excess to drive 5lb gains every session. Otherwise you will stall much faster than you would otherwise. Then idiots think the problem is with volume when they don't understand the above.

>>42572970
That study you posted has nothing to do with whether lifting light or heavy is the best way to make gains. It only says that after a lengthy workout of the arm, muscle synthesis increases and then returns to normal after 36 hours. Literally nothing about varied training frequency or intensity.

>>42561736
SS is for athletes/strength and not for aesthetics. The posterior chain is the powerhouse of the human body and this translates to all sports. Take the example of boxing, the power behind the punch doesn't come from the arms/chest. Punching power is generated in the glutes and hips and translated through the chest/arm, thus the expression "Punch with your ass."
If you're doing SS because you want to look good then you're mildly retarded. You do SS + GOMAD for training, build up your base strength and then use that to demolish in your sport.
If you want to look pretty for your boyfriend then stick to bodybuilding routines.

>>42578177
>I'm a special snowflake and basic medical science doesn't apply to me!

Maybe you're counting wrong mate, or way overestimating how much your snacks count for, because what you're saying makes no fucking sense, which I've backed up with sources and had to do the fucking math for you.

You also literally just posted a single photo of a list of foods, which hardly constitutes better proof than the literal fucking doctors I linked talking about it.

Stay retarded dude.

>>42572970
that's why all the dyels benching 1/2 pl8 look so big right

you can post all the studies you want, they're wrong
experience tells a different story alltogether

>>42576951
your alternative is to read the short version in the sticky and do it wrong for half a year until you finally do decide to read the book because you're not making any progress

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>>42578297
>>42579496
>24hrs. for approaching-and-peak elevated protein synthesis
>24hrs to get back on weights
>What intensity of training allows repair in that window, maximizing on MPB vs MPS?

>>42578269
I realized this when I stopped lifting and went back to SS. If you don't eat enough you stall earlier. I'm okay with that as my numbers are respectable and I'm looking to recomp. Switched too Texas method so I can continue eating lighter.

>>42561736
Lol you little pussy hole, I followed it for 4 months and yea my legs were way ahead but now I'm 1 year in and can squat 520 bench 330 and deadlift 535, my upper body is now in line with or better than my lower body, enjoy never benching 315 because of you're boi pussy abs virgin

>>42580715
>that poverty bench and deadlift
Kek

>>42580746
Nice e stats, keep doing those half squats and cable curls pussy, anyone that weights less than 200lb should fuck off and go eat a biscuit or something you little gymshark cucks

>>42580746
>330 bench in a year is bad

>>42561256
>Do SS
>Squats getting heavier and heavier
>Struggle through a 2pl8 set, knees waving around like dowsing rods.
>now have patella tendonitis in both knees

Thanks, rippletits.

>>42580849
Didn't eat enough or rest enough or your technique was wrong

>>42579501
Did exactly that fuck ;_;
This guy knows some shit

>>42561256
>>42561265
>>42562926
pretty much . Phelps who looks like a jumping bard eats at least 8k. Strongmen can go way beyond that

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>>42579473
You haven't posted a single source that accurately tells me what the discrepancy would be between our TDEE'S, you just say "it's negligible because science". How about this; post a picture of your physique and everything becomes a lot more clear as to why your calories are so fucking low

>>42562264

When did people who are the average male height start making fun of manlets? Yeah you aren't a manlet dude, but you are still so far away from and aesthetic, notable height.

6'5"

>>42561589
I can barely eat 3.5k a day and he thinks 6k is minimum for my age/weight? Fuck dat

>>42562061
I thought it was common sense. You want to get strong, do rippetoe. Want to get shredded, bodybuilding routine. If you're currently weak as fuck and want to get ripped, get strong first the do bodybuilding.

>>42565981

>(no bar)

Retard, add the bar. Have you been meme'd into not adding the bar weight?

>>42562857
If he went on a cut, he'd probably look better that you do..

>>42581470
nobody should do a bodybuilding routine without being able to hit 1/2/3/4 minimum

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>>42565848

> 4 kcal

Enjoy your 1x 1gram of oats daily brother

>>42568490

Yes, but it assumes you're already training for a sport, 4-5 days per week @ 3-4 hours per day

>>42581907
>Yes, but it assumes you're already training for a sport, 4-5 days per week @ 3-4 hours per day
no it doesn't, stop making shit up

>>42571751
Jesus you're retarded

>>42582060
How about you fight me you little fucking bitch?

>>42581406
Wow, you sure showed those doctors wrong with a picture of some guy! As I said, even if we go by your assumption about me, my muscle mass wouldn't be significantly lower than yours, and by virtue of me weighing significantly more, my tdee would be higher anyway.

You keep on arguing that it totally doesn't count for you, despite me providing a source to my claim, then doing the basic maths around it for you, and your only proof being a picture of some food that adds up to less than you were claiming, and then a picture. It proves absolutely nothing mate, and just makes you look more pathetic.

What you're saying is that you are a special snowflake and that science doesn't apply to you.

>>42581406
Also
>Implying that is 5'11

Stay manlet

>>42565892
Not that same guy, but I also maintain at 3k calories, mate. I've been losing weight eating at 2900 and I'm 173 (down from 179 5 weeks ago) at 5'9. How long/how often do you spend time in/go to the gym? I'm sitting on my ass for most of the day shit posting, studying, or jacking off. Going to the gym 3-5 times a week and spending ~2-3 hours there.

>>42584210
You didn't do any math that showed me what the difference in muscle mass between us would add to, you just dismissively said "it's negligible". You look like shit and can't eat worth a damn cause of all that adipose tissue you're sloshing around in dem jelly rolls. Stay sad and deluded

>>42562264
Get checked for worms.

>>42584210
You're really not gonna post a photo? If you were even just above DYEL, you'd post. Now we know that you're DYEL and have little muscle mass. That would explain why your TDEE is so low and why you're so bitter

>>42571751
>6 million Kcal

6million K
6000000K
6000000000 Calories a day

>>42561589
I started my last bulk at 5'10" 165 and gained 1 lb / week on 2700. At 3,500 I gained way too much fat (2lbs/week total) and was unaesthetic at the end of the bulk.

5,000 would be for someone who works in a warehouse where everything must be carried whilst sprinting for 8 hours daily with no breaks.

Who cooks up these fucky numbers? Is it people who bike 15 miles each way to their job in a coal mine? WTF.

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>>42562264
6' 174? Holy shit dude you're a BEAST! Lmao. Dude, my dog weighs more and is taller than you on his hind legs.

>>42578349
Actually, it starts with the calf muscles. Then thighs and hamstrings. Then glutes. All of this happening in a split second.

>>42561356
Fuck off ripple tits your advice sounds even more retarded now