>meatcucks will defend this

>>42545113
>implying causation from correlation
I wish in knew this was bait

>>42545113
life isn't a fucking marathon, its a fucking sprint. id rather be huge and strong and eat whatever the fuck i want then live an extra few years by eating like a fucking scrawny herbivore.

>>42545113
Misleading statistics: the image

>>42545113
I feel as if this is a misleading statistic due to the fact that people who have "diets" are already probably working out and being health-conscious. If you looked at the statistics for active, fit meat eaters and active, fit vegans then they'd be a lot closer. As it stands the "meat eater" category includes people who eat McDonalds 7 times per day

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>>42545113
>I eat nothing so I have less chance to get eating related diseases

>>42545197
You nor the strict vegans will live very long or very well.
You will probably never make it to 50 with that attitude. If you do? You'll be worse off then someone who's 70.

>>42545211
Holy shit this

When will fucking vegan fags learn this. Of course a vegan diet is 10000x more healthy when you compare it to the average american diet (which is straight garbage)

>>42545113
>risk of being a numale
>50%
>55%
>96%

>>42545113
they're actually all about the same you fucking retard

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Daily reminder that human semen is vegan

ah yes this image is well sourced and has a very believable statement. I'm now a vegan

ITT: meatcucks furiously justifying their shitty habits

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>be bowhead whale
>pic related
>eat meat
>live to be 200 years old

checkmate vegans

>>42545326
don't forget to take your b12 supplement that your body requires for some reason

>>42545113
PESCATARIAN MASTER RACE

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Fixed

What matters long life? What warrior wishes to be spared?

>>42545498
The one on his death bed.

>>42545488
hahaha

>>42545113
This includes your average shitter under meat eaters and we all know how poorly your average person eats.
Even if that weren't the case, meat is 100% worth the risk. Life without meat would suck.

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>>42545320

>>42545238
This, id rather get killed than get cucked

>>42545544
why do vegans die senpai?

>>42545113
>meatcucks
>vegetarian - 45%
What?

Most meat eaters don't eat healthy (they eat anything, including meat, this is the general population)
All vegans follow a strict deat(a vegan diet), therefore they care about their health
This doesn't mean meat is unhealthy
Vegans can't into statistics

I'll die happier with a stomach full of steak

>>42545306
But it's an animal product, it's vegetarian not vegan

>>42545567
>implying they do
https://youtu.be/EJr3MUNc14Y?t=26m40s

>>42545632
veganism is a philosophy not just a diet, a human can consent to you eating it's cum, a dog can't

>>42545632
Veganism is basically the idea that animals can't consent to have their meat/milk/etc. taken, so it's morally wrong to do so. Humans are able to consent, so human-based products, e.g. semen and breast milk, are kosher.
Why are plants exempted from this rule, despite the fact that they are also unable to consent and the fact that they also feel pain? Ask a vegantard, I have no idea.

>>42545604
>Statistics
That's the results of a study with all necessary controls. Meatheads can't into scientific method.

>>42545668
Post the study

>>42545604
A lot of vegans eat unhealthy, most vegans are in it for ethical reasons and eat junk just like most people. A lot of shitty food is vegan by accident, but even then they still have much lower risk of heart disease than meat eaters.

>>42545660
Plants don't feel pain you retard. You can't feel pain without a central nervous system

>>42545113
>0.5% of people are vegan
>out of 300,000,000 people
>that's 1,500,000 people
>at least 95% of them are young
>too young for HEART DISEASE of ANY KIND to have developed
>that leaves about 75,000 people AT MOST old enough to develop heart disease
>that's 0.025% (one FORTIETH) of a percent of the total population
>NOT 4%
Your argument is objectively and clearly invalid.

Go eat a steak so your brain will work correctly again.

>>42545647
>>42545660
So if a cow is suicidal i can eat it and call it vegan?

>>42545113
risk of being a confused faggot

vegan - 100%

veganism is the socialism of diets

If there were a sure fire way to make your dick bigger, every guy in the world would be packing at least 12 inches. Similarly, If there were a sure fire diet that made you live longer everyone would be on it. Take a look at what some of the world's oldest people eat or ate. Also most vegans go back to eating animal products so, like, shut the fuck up, you're going through a phase you emo faggots.

>>42545706
No you fucking retard
Do you know what the word "consent" means?

>>42545701
Pretty sure vitamins and minerals from plant foods are key to a healthy functioning brain. Maybe if you didn't eat so much meat you'd have been able to figure that out on your own

>>42545701
Additionally:
>I'm 52 years old
>I eat meat and dairy EVERY SINGLE DAY
>I'm healthy as a proverbial HORSE
>I could beat your pussy vegan ASS with one hand tied behind my back and not even break a sweat
You people are your meme 'diet' are a joke.

>>42545698
It's been proven plants feel pain. The only thing closest to not feeling pain are fish.
Either way plants are smart as fuck to the point that they plot against each other and can tell other plants to not feed a certain plant that bothers them so they should have a right to consent as well.

>>42545719
>dumb vegan faggots
>think meat eaters eat ONLY MEAT
LOL get some delicious BACON in you before your brain turns to mush, veganfag

>>42545706
yeah, and thanks to factory farming methods, most cows likely are suicidal so they would technically be vegan, just don't eat pasture raised meat

>>42545736
The only thing in meat that you can't get from vegetables is cholesterol, and your body makes its own cholesterol from fats (which you can get from plant foods). What is it in meat that your brain needs to function?

>>42545712
>Also most vegans go back to eating animal products
This is totally true. Also I know some vegans who gave up on it because their health was going to shit, and all their physical problems cleared up in a matter of a couple months after they started eating animal products again.

Face the genetic, scientific, objective FACT: Humans are OMNIVORES, have been for MILLIONS OF YEARS. Veganfags are delusional if they think they can 'magically' override their own DNA with their 'moral choice'.

>>42545752
Then how some I'm so much healthier and fitter than you are? You're a skinnyfat weak veganfag with a LIMP DICK, LOL

VEGANISM IS A LIE.

What do vehicles with petroleum-burning engines, and anything electric have in common? They're all powered by FOSSIL FUELS, which come from dead animals. Vegans aren't allowed to own or use ANYTHING that came from an animal -- therefore any so-called 'vegan' that drives a vehicle or uses anything electric is CHEATING and is NOT VEGAN. They may as well stop kidding themselves and go eat a steak, they all FAIL.

So-called 'vegans' also suffer from progressive cognitive deficit due to chronic amino acid deficiencies from malnutrition. That's why vegancucks don't make sense, their brains don't work correctly anymore. People I've known who were vegan then gave it up and went back to eating animal products regularly showed positive changes in their personalities and started being able to think more clearly again.

Vegans brains are so addled that they think you can raise an INFANT as vegan and expect it to be healthy and develop properly -- which it will NOT. Any pediatrician will tell you that you should not feed a baby a strict vegetarian diet, it will sicken, fail to develop, fail to thrive, and ultimately DIE. Pediatricians who encounter parents who insist, against all professional medical advice, in feeding their infant a Vegan diet, are reported to the police and to Child Protective Services, because it is legally considered CHILD ABUSE. What does THAT tell you?

Face it, vegancucks: humans are OMNIVORES, even many vegans admit it, and your meme 'lifestyle' is anti-health, anti-HUMAN, and exists as a political statement more than anything else, erroneously placing dumb lower animals above humans, which is pants-on-head stupid.

More evidence that Veganism is a LIE and actually hurts humans in the long run:
Veganism DESTROYS the fitness of pro athletes
https://blog.bulletproof.com/carl-lewis-vegan/

>>42545712
I'm eating meat right now and I'm disagreeing with you. Have you met fat people? They know they'll die early but they don't give a flying fuck because they rather eat more even if their life is halved.

>>42545780
That dinosaur did not consent to being used for car fuel

>>42545780
>your meme 'lifestyle' is anti-health, anti-HUMAN, and exists as a political statement more than anything else
Agreed. Thread reported for off-topic, belongs in >>>/pol/

>>42545771
Vegans have better blood flow due to clear arteries that aren't clogged up with cholesterol so my dick is probably harder than yours. The only difference is mine gets hard to all the vegan girls while yours gets hard to boys at the playground LMAO

>>42545712
>Also most vegans go back to eating animal products

It's just a revolving door of assholes who have been vegan for like 6 months and haven't given up on it yet. But they hardly ever shill online as hard as when they were vegans they just meekly start eating eggs and fish and continue to encourage other people to go vegan even though they couldn't hack it. Their character is as anemic as their blood.

>>42545801
>she thinks she has a dick
You CLEARLY have a vagina if you're a vegancuck. Even if you were born male, your dick falls off and you grow a vag as soon as you become vegan

>>42545820
Your mom would disagree with that statement

>>42545795
>That dinosaur did not consent to being used for car fuel
Exactly. Vegans are VICTIMIZING dinosaurs. They should all WALK everywhere, in bare feet.

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Meatfags btfo every single time.

Smile at the excuses. Laugh at the blog links.

Comfy as fuck kicking back with my beet smoothie thinking about your limp dicks and heart attacks.


Eat up, sweetheart. Your meat is getting cold.

>>42545825
>vegancucks
>rolls out the 'your mom' reference
CLEARLY out of ammunition.
Time for you to give up and go eat a McDouble, vegancuck. Or do we have to find you and use YOU as food? You eat what food eats, after all -- you must be food! GET IN MY BELLY, VEGANKEK

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who would win?

Dude the risk is always 50%, you either have it or you don't.

>>42545854
vegains would win in a battle of the wits

Considering only white people care about veganism, and seeing this thread, I'm starting to think Jews aren't really at fault for all the cucks on the rise lately.

>>42545829
LOL who's making excuses? Not I.
>vegancucks
>can't handle being at the TOP of the food chain
You're either at the top of the food chain, OR YOU ARE FOOD. Take your pick, vegancucks.

>weak, skinnyfat, ineffectual vegancucks
You must have all been raised by women.
My 90 year old grandmother could whip all of you singlehanded -- and she makes a killer roast beef.

>>42545780
I don't see any vegancucks refuting any of this, so it's confirmed, then: Veganism is a LIE, and you're all cheaters. Time to give up vegancucks, and hit the drivethru at Carls Jr.

>>42545113
Misleading but even if it was true I'd rather die of a heart attack than be a limpwrist vegan faggot.

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look at this limp wristed vegan faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_S3P0eU0lE

>>42545927
>Despite being big still doesn't shut the fuck up about being vegan
Like clockwork
Limpwrist faggotry is a state of mind anon.

>>42545927
>Built all of his strength and muscle with meat
>Goes vegan later and claims that his strength is due to a vegan diet

LOL

Also

STEROIDS AINT VEGAN NIGGA!!

>>42545211
which is exactly why correlation is not causation, dont expect vegans to figure that out though

>>42545945
Steroids are actually vegan, and he regularly beats meat eaters who are also on steroids

>>42545488

under8d post

>>42545945
Don't bother anon, he's their only hero.
Don't take it away from them, it might crush their malnourished hearts.

>>42545978
>it might crush their malnourished hearts.

the irony

>>42545965
>doesn't refute the meat gains
>is alive and shitposting on the internet thanks to parents who fed them a non-vegan diet

>>42546002
he's gotten stronger since going vegan tho

>>42546012
>Since starting a new cycle tho
Fixed it for ya

>>42546023
and still beating meat eaters who are also on a cycle tho

>>42545113
The same stuff that gives you heart disease is responsible for cell health and normal hormone production, among many other good things. You gluttons today just eat too much. Moderation and such.

>>42546027
Yet has never won WSM or even ESM
Gets my noggin joggin, apparently he's just as strong as those guys.

I'd rather roll the dice on heart disease than take a 100% chance of being an obnoxious faggot.

>>42546012
>>42546027
it's like talking to little kids

>>42545481
Do you actually tell people in real life that you're a pescatarian? If so, do you have any friends?

>>42546062
Sorry my post aren't carefully constructed and 3 paragraphs long. Maybe Reddit is the site you're looking for if that's what matters most to you.
I'm just shitposting while I have a coffee, I didn't realize anyone here was taking this serious lmao

>>42545716
>moo twice if you want to die and be made into delicious steak
>moo
>moo
Boom, vegan beef.

>>42545197
>>42545218
The longest living humans on earth, every single super centurian, ate meat.

If you want to dramatically reduce risk of problems, cut out red meat and just eat fish, poultry, etc.

>>42546085
blood sugar a little low? You should have an oreo, they're vegan

>take all meat out of diet
>risk reduced by a slim margin
>take eggs and milcc out of diet
>heart disease free
The solution is to eat a shitton of meat and no milk or eggs and have a 9% heart disease risk. Come at me grass eaters.

>>42546113
Just because you read my post as me being irritated (probably because you're upset) doesn't mean I am bro. That's called projecting

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>>42546085
lol

>>42546134
double lol, holy shit

>>42546096
To be honest long living humans usually live off some stupid, non healthy shit, but for some fucking reason made it that far. It's like the key to live long is to not give a fuck. I remember one old lady was convinced that the key to living as long as her was one Dr.Pepper a day.

>>42545113
If you remove fat as fatass that eat McDonald's 3 times a day from the meat eaters group I bet that number more than halves. I guarantee whatever """"""""survey"""""""" this came from didn't factor in how health conscious each individual was. A health conscious meat eater probably has no more risk of heart disease that a vegan

>>42546239
It didn't, when you take in all other factors there is no difference, but vegans only care about animals, not people. They'd rather a cow live to be 20 than a human live to be 50.

>>42546263
veganism was never about health, the health angle is just a way to sell veganism

>>42545170
Except it is scientifically proven that meat consumption leads to elevated risk of heart disease.

I'll believe the scientists and doctors over retards on 4chan.

>>42545113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU

>>42545197
>>42545218
>>42546096
Have you seen mosseptuagenarians and octogenarians?

They take a dozen pills every day, barely active, and always sick. If you think your family is an exception, go check out a nursing home. It's no way to live.

>>42546528
you're into science in that you're into pop science, clickbait and watching children's shows. Learn how to read a research paper and go find this holy grail study that you think exists that would fundamentally change the world as we know it.

>>42545113

Question: Are these controlled for activity levels and calorie intake?

>>42546619
*most septuagenarians

>>42546528
Except it's only a 5% difference between meat eaters and vegetarian, clearly it's not meat, but in some other commonly eaten item.

>>42545211

There's confounders on both sides. Someone who becomes vegan for animal rights or the environment has no special reason to eat a healthy diet. They just stop eating meat. There's a whole industry for vegan junk foods for these people to eat. Some people do eat vegan for health reasons. Many more health conscious people eat poultry and fish and low fat dairy, since people interested in healthy eating will see chicken breast and tuna advertised everywhere. It's not just Mcdonalds eaters vs. elite vegan athletes who eat only organic whole foods.

>>42545113
>be vegan
>die anyways

>>42546726
but think of all the cute pigs they saved? Oh wait, China's eating more meat than ever? And India?Veganism is having zero affect on global meat consumption? Never mind.

>>42546651
Not controlled for anything even smoking.

>>42545720
Post your body.

>>42545712
>Similarly, If there were a sure fire diet that made you live longer everyone would be on it.
It's surefire that abandoning alcohol and red meat will make you live longer. This shit isn't some well kept secret you dumb cunt.

>>42545113
I'm guessing meat eater includes hamplanets who have no regard for what they eat. I also know some pretty tubby vegetarians.

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>>42546788
k

>>42546091
They're working on mass producing lab created meat. True vegan beef is just around the corner.

>>42545488
Underrated.

That picture fucking proves that it's not about meat because if there's only a 5 percent difference between meat eating and vegetarianism obviously the remaining 41 percent has to do with food other than meat what the fuck

>>42545113
turn that around for stomach cancer

>>42546528
except it's not you retarded fuck. Stop reading *le maymay science infographs* and pickup an actual book you stupid dipshit.

>>42547459

Dairy and eggs

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>be vegan
>hate people for eating meat
>get your fruit from africia
>get your veggies from south america
>get your herbs from asia
>airplanes releasing all that gass isn't dangerous for the people, animals or environment

Yes goy

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>>42547089
Honestly as a man of science I'd be interested in that, except its going to be shit expensive at first.
Btw not a vegan, far from it.

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>>42545781
i think it's not a choice for fatties, they're legit addicted to filth
sugary salty and fatty foods are like drugs, except there's no way to avoid them entirely since processed dog shit is everywhere, you'd have to have super-human willpower to ditch them if you're already hooked

>>42545113
>meatcucks will defend this

No, I won't. I accept the consequences of my life choices. Everything comes with risk.

>risk of mental illness
>Vegans: 100%

>>42545647
Wait so a vegan can eat animals that die of natural causes? How about roadkill?

>>42545113
>Vegan's still have a chance of heart disease

YOU TOLD ME I COULD LIVE FOREVER IF I CHANGED MY DIET, WHAT HAPPENED?

>>42545170
1. It has been proven to be causation
2. Why do people using tehehe correlation isn't equal causation are always the biggest retard out there ? I think it's because they think throwing that around makes them sound smart

>>42547089
Did that lab meat consent?

>>42548009
if you're vegan for ethical reasons - why not?

>>42545113
I do fasting and have one month in a year where I go entirely vegan.

I wonder if that's enough for the cardiological benefits. Does anybody know if there have been studies on vegan-fasts?

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>>42545113
Seems the problem is dairy, no? Vegans are such a joke.

>>42546619
Youre literally wrong. My great grandmother is an old dutch lady who turneed 94 this summer, eats meat,has no brain disease or slowing, drinks a beer a day or some wine, and still lives at home and runs her own errands on foot and makes her own food. People end up in nursing homes when they develop brain disease or let their bodies/minds degrade to the point of not being able to care for themselves.

>>42548743
Oh yeah, no daily pills either. Maybe just stay active and eat a balanced diet you fucking elitist purist shitstains.

>>42548658
I do fasting and have one month in a year where I don't smoke cigarettes.

I wonder if that's enough for the anti-carcinogenic benefits.

>>42545113
Now do one with 'odds of fending off an attacker'

>>42548804
False equivalence.

But yes smoking 11/12 months is better than smoking 12/12 months.

With alcohol doctors recommend that if you're an alcoholic you should have at least two consecutive days of rest for your liver to recover.

Alternative day calorie restriction fasting has the same health benefits as fasting. Etc

The body is not linear.

>>42545215
very true, you'll die of starvation before you ever develop heart-disease

>>42545113
Milk causes heart attacks?

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>>42545645
yo that's the doc from the meme wtf

>>42545698
Would you eat a baby human if it was born without the nervous tissue required to feel pain? How about a man in a coma who doesn't feel pain? Why is the feeling of pain relevant? Bullshit, you're justifying and resolving your cognitive dissonance at the emotion you experience at the thought of eating something you can relate to by presenting some random criteria that answers your current behavior. You're confabulating, go suck a dick.

t. Vegetarian of 20 years.

>>42545720
Anecdotal evidence.

>>42549019
The only value I give to animals is based on their intelligence / sentience, or their relationship to a human
I wouldn't eat a pig if it was my mum's pet, hell I wouldn't eat a bag of peanuts if it was my mum's prized possession
I'd eat a chimp or dolphin if it was retarded

Ohfuck my risk of dying by heartdisease as a very physically active individual DOUBLES from 0,0001% to 0,0002% ?

Shit son, your ms-paint quality image with no citation on this indian rugweaver forum just saved my life. I´m off to losing all my gains and doubling my food expenenses now, thanks anon

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>>42549031
In that case would you object to eating an orphan baby that no one would care about if it died? There will be no legal repercussions to eating it. Fuck it, thought experiment - there is no more law, it's post-apocaliptic future - you can either slaughter and eat your mom's pet pig, or an orphaned baby that no one cares about (not even you). Would you do it? $100 says you're full of shit and would eat the pig first.

Modern veganism is the same bullshit social trend I've seen before but with a more aggressive attitude and political cloak; people adorn themselves with it to signal their moral worth to others and to belong in a group, then dump it in the trash 3 years later when it's no longer convenient, because they simply have no moral compass and actual reasoning behind their actions, no real belief, just blind, zealot-like adherence to arbitrary rules. It will die in a few years like it did in the past, just wait and see.

>>42549064
If the baby was dead, I would be squeamish but I suppose no, it wouldn't go against my logic if nobody at all cared about it. I'd find it unpleasant though so wouldn't do it unless I had no alternatives.

The difference with babies though is their potential for sentience / intelligence, so it would rank above the pig if it was expected to live a long full life.

>>42549094
>potential
Why potential? Why would you can what something MIGHT achieve if given enough time? You have to eat now, not in 25 years and a college degree. Potential is meaningless, and you have no idea if the baby can even achieve that potential. How do you know it doesn't have a severe neurological disorder, or impending death due to a heart from birth, or any other disease that would make it not reach its potential? Would you MRI the baby's cranium, or screen it for genetic disposition to early-adulthood diseases before you decide to eat it, too?

Bullshit, humans are pragmatic creatures. We make up our minds before we are even aware of it, then we act, then we justify our actions in retrospect to ourselves so we can maintain a persistent character.

You need to accept that we do not act out of moral or logical reasoning. Most "vegans" I met have been loudmouthed hipster-in-the-making assholes because they care more about belonging to a group than doing something they think is morally right. They don't know why they do what they do. I fucking hate modern vegans, they're a walking political statement.

You hear that, vegans in this thread? Anyone who actually cares about animals rights, morality or an open discussion about the meat industry despises you. You're worse than PETA.

>>42549141
I'm talking about the logical reasoning I follow currently in my daily life, of course things would change in a " post apocalyptic world "; hell I'm sure my entire personality would change in vast and unpredictable ways

I would assume, based on induction, that as most babies grow to become adults of average intelligence, that this baby would have the capacity to grow to become an adult of average intelligence. Thus if I had a reasonable belief that the baby would survive to adulthood I would take this into account.

I'm not a vegan lol, I'm not speaking for them, I am only speaking for myself.

>>42549141
> You need to accept that we do not act out of moral or logical reasoning.

I do not accept this at all.

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>>42546642
This. If there was hard data that showed real causation, or even a very high association with minimal confounds, the fda would squash the shit out of meat. Inb4 "big meat" conspiracy theories about quelling solid research.

>>42548199
This might become a real topic of discussion

>>42545113
>presents relative risk as absolute risk
>no sources
trash

>>42545306
Human semen is only vegan if that human is also vegan.

>>42545113
Vegans overall care much more for eating healthy. While the average meat eater (AKA the average fatfuck american) is likely to eat whatever he wants, the average vegan crearly worries for his diet.

It would be much more interesting compare \fit\ meat eaters with \fit\ vegans

>>42545533
>>42545604
Agreed, I doubt the meat eaters in these stats eat the best grass-fed/minimal-chemical/organic meats. Most likely it's the typical highly processed unhealthy meats.

>>42545113
they all have a 100% chance of dying one day. This chance increases in pro-Muslim countries

>>42546096
Dude look at this guy who is 108 years old, we better start drinking and smoking like him to live this long!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2830888/The-oldest-living-veteran-smokes-drinks-whiskey-day-drives-does-yard-work-s-108-YEARS-OLD.html

>>42548706
Sauce!!!!!!!!

Any vegans around?

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>>42545113
Fix'd

>>42550100
Brittany White, new friend.

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>>42549387

>>42545113
If it was truly scientific fact then everyone would reject meat. However, it isn't. Correlation =/= Causation. Meat eaters who get health problems either eat shitty quality meat or other factors have led them to that.

>>42550565
Unless you make it a point to eat free range and organic meat (which most people dont)
You are eating animals who graze off insecticide sprayed land with artificial fertiliser and also possibly rat poison, as well as hormone and antibiotic fed cattle.

You're literally consuming poison.

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>>42545113

>>42551625
denial

>i know NOTHING about how statistics work

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>>42551565

>>42547517
Yeah exactly. So it's not meat.

>>42545113

> Die at 70 with a belly full of beef, beer, and taters. Lifted heavy, loved women, had friends.

> Die at 80 with belly full of kale, always skinny and unloved, never went to parties because fuck vegans.

>>42545730
>It's been proven plants feel pain
No it hasnt, which is why you wont prove it.

>Either way plants are smart as fuck
yes...this justfies stabbing animals how?

>>42545780
wtf, using oil is not unethical from an animal rights point of view, in the same way eating roadkill isnt...wtf. I honestly cant believe you typed this out.

>
So-called 'vegans' also suffer from progressive cognitive deficit due to chronic amino acid deficiencies from malnutrition. That's why vegancucks don't make sense, their brains don't work correctly anymore.

No evidence ofcourse and this is rich, seeing as you believe using oil causes animal suffering.

>Face it, vegancucks: humans are OMNIVORES, even many vegans admit it
Refuted your own sentence unironically, nigger tier IQ

>Vegans brains are so addled that they think you can raise an INFANT as vegan and expect it to be healthy and develop properly -- which it will NOT. Any pediatrician will tell you that you should not feed a baby a strict vegetarian die
No evidence ofcourse, but the ADA state it is fine to feed a baby a vegan diet.

Proper low IQ

Has anyone refuted the fact vegans are at lower risk for heart disease yet?

>>42550565
>if it was trult scientific unhealthy things were unhealthy everyone would reject it
>ignores drug industries, alcohol, and other unhealthy shit

>>42552132
>greentexting is a valid argument

>>42552263
appeal to ridicule fallacy

>>42552285
>ignores drug industries, alcohol, and other unhealthy shit
>ignores fruit and vegetable growers, sugar, grain, corn, and all subsequent corporations like coke, pepsi and frito-lays who would be blasting the world with advertisements if they had proof their sugar and animal feed made you live longer

>>42552374
what? I dont get how pepsi and cocacola point works...

>>42550071
>First there's his 'medicine' - the tablespoon of whiskey he adds to his morning coffee, which he claims keeps his muscles tender.
I've actually read that drinking alcohol in moderation like this IS good for you. Some test with mice where it slowed the ageing of heart valves or some shit.

>Then there's the dozen or so cigars he smokes - but doesn't inhale - everyday.
>but doesn't inhale
The Daily Mail clickbaited me?!

>Vegans die from other things than non-vegans
That's pretty normal

>>42545870
Theres nothing actually masculine about eating pre packaged meat from Kroger or food lion

>>42545113

Why is there no group of people who eat meat, but don't eat eggs/dairy? Maybe that's the key.
And hell, dairy production seems the roughest of all in terms of animal welfare, what with perpetual pregnancies and the constant abduction and disposal of calves. Humane slaughter of a cow that's lived it's life in the sun eating grass seems positively charitable by comparison.

>>42552505
Some chink tribes eat meat but no dairy or eggs

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>>42545113

>the study was conducted based on amerifat diets

>>42550116
kek

>>42552395
Their best selling brands are all vegan

>>42545113
This should actually say "Risk of not being a faggot"

>>42549387
Shit what did us hoosiers do wrong?

Oh yeah, the public education system

>>42552505
It's a good point. Killing an animal food food doesn't morally justifiable in any way but it's the lesser of evils when it comes to other forms of animal preparation.

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>>42545113
>afraid to die

>>42545113
50? Only know people that eat meat and none of them have any heart problems. I'm note some fruit cake that's going to die from some steak

>>42545170
As a professional statistician. There's nothing I hate more than this expression. People say it so confidently like it means that correlation and causation are mutually exclusive.

>>42546064
Yeah I have friends, only militant vegan autists shut out other people over a fucking diet

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>>42548743
yeah, my grandfather passed at 98, his diet was 100 percent the same every day, he would get up, smoke, chop wood/run/push ups/ride bike, drink a large cup of coffee with a huge bowl of oats blueberries and whole cream, his lunch would be a bunch of avocados, with chicken/steak and his dinner would be a plain large steak with beans/veggies sometimes, I never saw him eat large amounts of starch, or bread, the only time I saw him eat sweets was at my b-day when I was a kid and handed him a piece of cake, what really did him in was the goddamn smoking. maybe, or maybe it was just being old.

>>42545113
Now show a risk of mental disorders or malnourishment.

>>42548199
>>42549777
Not at all. Flesh isn't conscious.

>>42545113
The stats are skewd because almost ALL vegan people are health conscious while many many many meat eaters are also junk eaters.


understand the data before you talk shit

>>42553084
as a professional statistician you should know how big companies and ideologies use correlations statistics wrong to suit their causes

>>42545752

isn't vitamin B missing?

>>42555390
present actual evidence...everyone in this thread just asserts this.

Ive not met a healthy vegan yet, they are all just normies who eat shit, smoke weed, drink beer and work 9 till 5

Any vegans who think they're morally superior than anybody else, why haven't you killed yourself yet? Unironically if you're a true and absolute vegan, you'd kill yourself.

>>42545113
Heart disease has never tasted so delicious.

>>42545113
Really activated my almonds