Dealing with being ugly

By lifting heavy ass weight to compensate

>>42524170
pic unrelated

>>42524170
By not being a faggot who crawls into a hole every time things don't go his way.

>>42524170
Isn't that guy a chinlet?

I try to stay home most of the time. Mom keeps saying how good looking I am but I think she's lying.

never had to deal with that.
still a neet though. but on the rare occasions I'm social I get laid.

>>42524258
nah she's just tryina fugg

I have a good looking face ( genetics ) and a good looking body ( Lifting / Diet).

But I'm 5'7, so that just ruins everything.

I have been rejected by women who then went onto date guys with skinny-fat bodies, who were less facially attractive, but who were 6'0+.

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>>42524170
You compensate by acting as if you were handsome. It puts the confusion in women's mind and they just get wet as a defense mechanism
t. knower

>>42524170
Uhh not ugly but I have social anxiety so basically the same problem, I deal with it by snorting a whole lotta adderall and getting really drunk and then things kind of just work out for me

Confidence, skin care routine for skin gains (reply if you want details), good haircut for facial shape, do excercises I learnt from an orthodontist video on youtube which actively changes your face structure (more pronounced jaw), better posture. I've seen ugly as fuck guys fuck hot as fuck girls. Its not all looks. We will make it /fit/

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Learn the pickup game
Get advice on your appearance
Learn to deal with anxiety.

>>42524477
Reply

>>42524170
I hate the way I look, but everytime I say something about it to anyone they tell me I'm not ugly... I can't tell if they're lying or not.

Skincare is a way broader topic than most people think. Every morning I wake up and wash my face with warm water and apply a light moisturiser, in the evening I will either do the OCM (google oil cleaning method) or use my cleanser and then apply benzoyl peroxide to the appropriate areas(not sure which products will contain this in your country) which basically kills bacteria in pimples, if you have issues with blackheads on your nose/face you should get a bca chemical exfoliant to apply in the day. Other products you can consider getting are witch hazel, clay masks and ANTI-PORE BLACK HEAD CLEAR KIT by CNP cosmetics check /r/skincareaddiction if you want to find more info.

Drinking lightly is good for social sittuations other then that advice is to look people in the eye when they are talking, read more current events and other normie topics to have things to talk about

>>42524549
Wait, this isn't the american psycho pasta...

I've already come to terms with the fact that I will be alone for the rest of my life. It no longer upsets or angers me. I've decided to instead dedicate my life to the Alt-Right.

>>42524477
I have seborrheoic dermatitis. Anything for that?

>>42524170
By having copes. Heres a few I see here everyday:
>the gymcelcope
>the looksmax cope
>the fashionmax cope
>the looks don't matter cope/personality cope
>the money/status cope
>the women are shit anyways cope
Deep down I know the importance of FACE HEIGHT FRAME, but I still delude myself with gymcelling. I get depressed otherwise desu.

>>42524587
It might be better if you just kys yourself.

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>>42524587
obvious false flag, fuck off

>>42524590
ketoconazole, dont scratch

>>42524590
I use bifonazole on the body/face rushes and a ketokonazole shampoo for the dandruff. Use them daily for a month, then stop before you develop a resistance. I see the result after a few day, especially on the rushes, but you want to keep using them to prevent a come back. Use a face/body moisturizer, going full aggression on the skin will simply make your body produce even more sebum

What's the best way to know how ugly you are?

>>42524687
Has a pretty girl ever asked you out without knowing you? If no, then no.

>>42524478
Right is fugly
Left is just ugly

>>42524176
But what if the good looking men also lift heavy ass weight?

>>42524695
Never happened because
>Sweden
But every time I ask a pretty stranger for her # I get it.

>>42524827
sweden here aswell, some milf randomly walked up to me at the bus station and wanted my number

had gf at the time tho, regret not giving it now

A 40+ year old girl once walked up to me and said I was beautiful.

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>>42524603
gymcel is cope only for ugly people

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>>42524478

>>42524687
>>42524695
This. People, even here where you would expect at least some self-awareness, constantly overrate themselves. If you rate yourself a 6, think again.
If you are an 8, you know.

>>42524287
You are over-rating your own face.

>>42524170
Surely you can get facial surgeries anon?

>>42524170
Being ugly is outside of my control; I can't change my face outside of getting plastic surgery (which I couldn't afford right now even if I wanted to). So why should it bother me?

I don't have natural good looks. That's fine. But there are plenty of other things I do have--internal things that I've cultivated myself, such as discipline and a drive to improve myself. I think a lot of /fit/ can identify with that.

I focus on what I can change about myself, and I work towards that change aggressively.

>>42524170
Get big so people are intimidated at least and you can get girls with muscle fetish.

Start earning six figures and get a ride and wardrobe to match. Money and status>(looks+height+muscles+confidence)

>>42525601
Yes, great. So now you have this bitch who is with you because of your money. yey so great

>>42524687
to me it was one week on tinder no matches

>>42524170
I tend to try to forger about women. Its hard as shit.

>>42524170
I don't cope with anything because the only place where looks matter this much is /fit/, I don't expect NEETs with 0 life experience to comprehend that, though.

Advice for any passerby's: get the fuck off of this board as soon as you humanely can and never look back. I know for a fact that people here think they're just memeing when they make these kinds of threads, but what they are oblivious to is that the bullshit they post infiltrates their subconscious without them knowing it. You start to believe the shit that's posted here and it fucks you up, regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, it WILL mould your way of thinking.

Unless you have god tier self control and only come here for the CBT's and other informative threads, literally close the tab and never come back.

>>42525689
Are you implying that face isn't at least 80% of human attraction?

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>>42525689

>>42525689
People make millions off of their physique alone, but somehow the appearance doesnt matter

Ok bud

>>42524170
you need to take care of your looks. there's certainly something you can fix or at least hide. For example, I am bald. Started losing hair at 17, and been buzzing it since 20. That's 1 unattractive trait and the 2nd one is that I have misshapen head. So, objectively ugly. But that doesn't stop me from
>taking care of my fitness
gym+boxing
>taking care of my skin especially face
there are creams and gels you can use to keep your face and skin clean,
>smell nice
invest in a bit more expensive shower gel, buy a nice perfume
>take care of facial hair
beard doesn't necessary work. Think and decide what's best for you
>take care of your nails and teeth
it's a little thing but people notice
>care of your clothes
doesn't have to be expensive or /fa/. just nice, fitting clothes, not some childish shit unless you have to (batman t-shirts etc.)

that's how I cope(d). this won't make you beautiful or attractive to girls or whatever. it will make you feel good and confident (at least more than now) and that will bring some good things. take care of yourself first, the rest will come. If gf is what you want, well I have one and I am perfectly happy. and ugly as sin.

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>>42524603
>HEIGHT
WHY AM I NOT 6'4 WHY

>>42525689
I agree that this place is toxic but /fit/ helps me on my journey to self improvement even if the main fuel of this journey is self hate.
Once I'm happy with myself I'll stop coming here (probably never desu).

I gave up on women and got used to how I look. I can't say I'm really happy but at least it doesn't bother me and depression doesn't stroke anymore.

>>42525689
/fit/ made me the alpha i am today
fuck you

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>>42526053
Op here. The main issue is that I'm really fucking skinny and look like a kid as a result. I'm 5'9, which is truth be told a short stature nowadays, and weigh 55kg. I have 5.5 inch wrists, have a narrow ovale face, and I always buzz my head because long hair gets me taken for a woman. It's fucking hell.

>>42524170
I don't because I'm gorgeous. I'm mostly attracted to my own race and in literally a 9/10 by our standards.

>>42525627
ouch, im overweight, my tinder bio was something autistic and i had a shirtless pic of me (124kg, 5.11')
i got a few, most where just ugs or bots but i got 1 decent chick. too beta to msg her tho fbm

>>42524563
kek, was thinking the same thing

>>42525689
>/fit/ helped me understand that women are generally scumbags
>when my first gf cheated on me and lied about it I was able to break up with her without my heart being broken, because I slightly expected infidelity

This board is good for some things.

>>42524820
Why wouod they do that? Theyre already good looking. Why exert extra effort.

>>42524170
charm and charisma

>>42526562
>Ugly guy trying to be charismatic
It's called a clown

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>>42524587
fuck off nazi scum

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>>42526568
>creep
ftfy

>>42526568
This...

>>42524477
What could you tell me about those jaw exercises?

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>>42524587

>>42525689
This
/fit/ became a bunch of closet-faggots collecting pictures of hot guys and crying in their mom's basement about how they cant be models.
these guys are rotten to the core and would be better off dead honestly instead of just trying to bring everyone else down to their own level of autism

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>>42524170
By being confident without faking it and doing the best you can without depending on the results.

>>42526783
How do I become confident?

>>42526795
By taking some xanax and amphetamine.

>>42526795
Fake it till you make it baby

>>42526783
Statham is homosexual and that woman is his beard.

>>42526817
How do I fake it?
>>42526808
Doesn't that cause balding?

>>42526783
It's because she is wearing heels. She is 5'9 he is 5'10.5, barefoot.

>>42526750
a whole lot of elliot rodger tier miscers came to /fit/ and considerably lowered the post quality

>>42526795
Cocaine. You'll feel like you can anything, literally. When you realize it's only your attitude that matters you'll be fine.

>>42526837
/fit/ talked about this shit before misc. You guys wasn't here 6 years ago.

>>42526860
Yeah but it's become so much more prominent

>>42526795
It's a long journey but in the end you need to reach the point where a women rejects you or something bad happens you just move on without taking it personally or letting you affect in any way because a date shouldnt be a favor by her but somethng you both enjoy. Ironically, women need to feel that you aren't extremely important for them and you do just fine with your life even without her

Models by Mark Manson is the only decent book in this subject

>>42526826
No one talked about his height lmao get off this board

>>42526904
>No one talked about his height lmao get off this board
He implied that the guy was confident by being with a taller chick. That's how I read it at leasat.

>>42526912
You need to leave this board for a bit and go out if you see a guy with a Victoria Secret model and the first thing you think about is the guy's height

>>42526955
You're leaving out the context on purpose.

>>42526912
This thread's about attractiveness, I took it as "the guy isn't that attractive but the woman is", not necessarily height-related

>>42524287
date an asian. 5'7 is their 6'0.

As ugly non poor men have always done, I focus on my education.

>>42527105
>>42527088
Not working out just yet, hu?

>>42527110
Of course I work out, mens sana un corpore sano. But being /fit/ does not "cure" an ugly face.

>>42525689

>Like, learn PUA maaan! Don't be afraid to approach girls! Be confident! Just be yourself! Harassing 50 different girls at a single bar in one night is how human interactions are supposed to go, this is perfectly normal human behavior, don't listen to these autists man! just be yourself!

Said increasingly nervous coping fuck for the 100th time.

Seriously though, why do come here if these are all just lies? Are you doing some PSA? Don't you have anything better to do with your life? Or is there something in the back of your subconscious that is telling you we are right?

>>42524290
the only one ITT who knows what's up.

you needn't be ugly for it to work though, you have to be at least somewhat attractive.

>>42524531
That's their way of saying 'quit being a sad sack'.

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I never look at mirrors, whenever someone compliments me I change the subject real quick, and I try to lose as much weight as possible to compensate for my ugly face. Currently on day 6 of a two week fast. Pic related, me. Please don't call me ugly or fat, I already know I am.

Thankfully, I'm atleast decently attractive. I have a string jaw, think neck, and solid facial proportions. Only issue is I have sleepy eyes.

Still good enough for girls to offhandedly refer to me as being handsome/ hot.

>>42527429
why dont you finally kill yourself you spend so much time talking about how there is no hope anyway.
just do it fag. the anon you replied to didnt say a word about pua

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>wallow in self pity and lurk on fit but not actually go to the gym

t. mr skellington

>>42528383
I didn't say there is no hope just that I am absolutely tired of people spreading lies. Looks matter, it is a simple fact, they matter a lot. Instead of being aware of this and trying to improve yourself in this regard, and you can definitely do it, to an extent at least (this is why /fit/ is for), people waste time deluding themselves with comfortable lies. Like a poor person saying to himself 'money doesn't matter'... yeah sure it doesn't. Instead of trying to make more money (to the best of your ability) some choose to delude themselves with comfortable lies.

Not trying to depress anyone, quite the opposite; take it as motivation and start taking care more seriously about your looks. I'm not being the fag here, I'm not the one denying the truth that is staring everybody in the face.

And everyone who denies the importance of looks ends up bringing PUA and game and other internet memes so I pre-empted.

>>42524930
>the way the ugly dried-up roastie looks at him as if she's any better

>>42524258
Most moms think their sons look good. She's being honest.

>>42527680
I dunno if I'd call you ugly... you just look like you're about halfway through puberty. Like, awkward, but not "ew", yknow?

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>>42527680
This is bait to make people insecure

>>42528647
no one said looks didnt matter. youre literally arguing with a strawman and even feel smart for doing so

Why are you just asking men specifically?

>>42524563
Same

>>42524687
You simply don't ever truly know
But i suppose if your female coworkers want to get photos with you, and don't mind if you flirt/photobomb them then i assume you're at least a 5

>>42528789
Explain please

>>42529012
Maybe you're incredibly insecure but it looks like you put a picture of a normal/above average looking guy and said that you're fat and ugly

>>42524176
And busting sick rhymes apparently

>>42526591
I wish I could cave in his jaw

>>42526591
>26, horticulture major. queer+trans (nb, he/him) uterus-haver, bipolar-haver, IPV/sx.assault survivor. abortion is a right. i'm the wckr spgt hype squad

This is the best defense against nazis?

>>42529029
No way I'm average. Bull shit.

>>42527540
I don't bring it up often.

I accepted I was ugly a while ago. I'm still happily married and have had a very successful life.

Literally nobody cares if you're ugly. The people who care, they aren't worth being around

>>42527680
You're like a 5/10. You should be able to find a decent mate if you work on your personality and get confidence. And you are not fat, eat more and gain more muscles. Your shoulders, obliques and abs need some work. Also don't be a faggot and rotate your shitty pictures before uploading them.

>>42527680

Lmao is this some pasta that you post alongside decent looking DYELs?

>>42526837
It's Lookism that came here, their mentality is literally poison for self-esteem.

>>42529074

This is the reason FOR Nazis.

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>>42524170

I cant tell if im atractive or not, at least dont consider myself unactractive but still cant get laid because im normal outside but all autistic inside and i have some religious issues that wont let me talk to a girl properly, so here i go virgin and kissless at 20

If you wanna be normal and get laid witha verage chicks all you need is dont look like a rapist and dont be an autistic freak like me

>>42529037
Kek

>>42528346
>String jaw, think neck

>>42524930
one of the ugliest women I've ever seen

>>42525689
>beauty doesn't matter

It changes your life more than money and status, not to mention if you look good it's easy to make money and climb the social ladder. Beauty is not just for slaying pussy, it literally makes every aspect in your life better:

https://youtu.be/VTwSSTWfwuM

>>42529863
What matters is creativity, beauty not much

>>42529863
ok so what do I do if i'm not pretty but still want money and/or status?

>>42524462
You surely feel great after those nights

>>42529764
Your looks dont cause your virginity. But shave your mustache.
But then again im in the same boat as you, so what do I know

>>42529957
I know thats why i explained what causes it ( religious issues and so)
And fuck shaving

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>>42529933
Work 10 times harder than pretty people. Sorry, but that's how it works.


t. fugly

>>42529957
Also i dont know why men freak out so much about girls, just masturbate and go on

I know bunch of people who are cuckolds because of bitches fuck them

Confidence I guess.

I'm not super handsome, 6/10 maybe, but I consistently pull way above my league. I pulled by far the hottest chick at a conference (who was taller than me too) when there were 4 taller, better dressed, and more handsome dudes trying too.
Try having some personality.
Can we talk about fitness now?

>>42530103
Your pull ups to curl ratio ?

>>42525689
What are you doing here my man? Good post, but you should follow your own advice. You're talking to a crowd of mentally deranged losers.

>>42530125
I miss old /fit/ I guess. Where else am I supposed to go? It used to be funny mentally deranged losers, but now it's just 2 flavors
>r9k
>pol
If these people really think genetics fucked them over and there's no hope, why can't they just top themselves already and stop shitting up my fitness board?

>>42524945
I'm very hard on myself and I think that I'm like a 4 and on a really good day, a 5. Am I really just a 2?

I think you are overthinking this. People just want to have a good time, doesn't matter whether youre a guy or a girl. You want to spend time with someone you enjoy being with. So when you see an ugly guy with a girl way out his league look-wise she is with him because they have a good connection and enjoy spending time together. That's it. And when you see a really good looking guy acting like a cunt, a girl is with him because the visual stimulation is enough for her. Same goes for many guys trying to lay some braindead bimbo. Those girls who will ignore major personality red-flags and try to "change him" and "give him another chance" are more often than not mentally ill and should be avoided.

>>42530008
you say it like it's a bad thing

It really does matter. Looks are the key to success outside of an environment where a woman can get to know you overtime and become attracted to your personality (work, clubs, sports). Otherwise shes not gonna give you 2 seconds of her time unless youre attractive. Bartender for 6 years ive seen and heard a lot of shit.

>>42529906
>cope

>>42525689
Daily reminder.
You're here forever.

>>42530322
>Bartender
Fuck, bars and clubs really are an eye-opener for that kind of stuff. can you tell us what you've seen or heard?

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Any recommendations for good skin care?

>>42530610
lmao why dont you go out and see yourself what a subhuman shit are you anon
do you also want to me to describe the weather for you

>>42530716
5000mcg biotin daily. Stuff is cheap and works

>>42530716
Drink Water

>>42524462
I know its difficult to comprehend when you're young and a massive fucking faggot, but there's ways to deal with anxiety that aren't snorting something that's essentially cocaine, then drinking hard liqour.

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>>42524213
>tfw exactly the same jaw but with slightly smaller chin
Should I just cover it all up?

>>42524170
>>>/pol/

>>42524266
>Tfw good looking face but never getting laid because social autist who doesn't even try
Don't even care tbqh, it happens when it happens

>>42524945
And you are projecting. I posted my photos on /soc/ and got called good looking often so I don't think I'm overrating myself (think I'm around a 7 with 5 being average)

>>42527680
Is this bait?

>>42530716
>tfw the skin on your face scars easily, is dry as fuck and sensitive enough that tap water can burn it

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>Tfw got the receded chin and overjet
Braces are expensive in australia

>>42530716
WHO

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>>42524587
this is unironically how i feel aside from the alt-right shit

>>42531285
Might as well

>>42528713
>Most moms SAY their own children look good
Fixed it 4 u

By luring girls in with my easymode bloodline

>Tfw native American
>Dual citizenship with Canada and USA
>Tfw my rez provides free healthcare
>tfw never having to do jury duty, and not having to pay sales tax in stores

>>42524170
Because I literally do not give a shit about other people. I lift and work to be the goddamn best I can become, and I don't give a shit about whether other people are doing better than me or not because i know that I gave my very best every chance I had

>>42527680
You're absolutely a humongous lardass who looks like he cant put down the bag of chips, i hate fucking fatties like you who pollute the gene pool you mongoloid

>>42527680
you're a skinnyfat piece of shit, work harder faggot

>>42524170
because there are some things about yourself you cannot change and were and always will be out of your control. once you accept these things you'll find peace within yourself. i really think some of you guys need to get off the internet for a significant period of time.

>>42534503
Surgery changes everything

>>42524170
>mfw I realize Statham is a chinlet

how do you cope with being poor with all the rich men out there?

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Allright guys, I am not that pretty, through looksmaxing, years of working out and dressing nicely I got myself to quite allright.
I have banged alot of women in a very short time.
For private reasons I don't feel like stating the number. But it was alot considering I was a hopeless permavirgin a year ago. I put blood sweat and tears in killing my severe anxiety and making social gains, it seemed hopeless at times and I have made embarassing mistakes. What I'm saying is it seems hopeles, but don't be a weak cunt and give up trying to develop yourself and your love live.
You should rather die trying than to give up. Because if you give up you betray yourself.
You can tell me I have easy talking because I ''look halfway decent''. I made myself like that.
You make yourself like that. Also in order to get better you will have to fail. Remember progress is outside the comfortzone. I've nearly puked out of fear while talking to people.
Fuck you. Don't betray yourself.

>>42535853
This attitude being on /fit/ more and more makes me sad.
>>42537520
Nice blogpost faggot

>>42537532
I am trying to motivate your ass phag.
Or go ahead and sit your ass down in your moms basement feeling sorry for yourself.
*I AM SPESJULL, MY PROBLUMS ARE REALL!!*

>>42524170
Just because a person isnt attractive doesnt that person is ugly

>>42537546
It felt obligatory because you attached a picture of your face. Truth be told you have the right attitude, better than the rest of the lookism morons in this thread. How's your lifting going? I really just want someone to talk about fitness here.

>>42537581
Haha, sorry, I guess I get salty from the amount of crab mentality I face.
I am somewhat plateau'd on alot of lifts so I added an intensification and increased volume by one set per workout. See if numbers climb up further again. Weighed ring chin-ups really are quite a recommendable excersice.
What about you my anonymous friend? How do you deal with plateau's?

>>42537602
Word, sounds like a decent approach at an intermediate level.
I just got done with a pretty severe cut, lost 35lbs from April to August, maintained for a few weeks and now I'm bulking.
My bench and ohp had been going up but my deads and squats dropping like a stone. Now that I'm getting a surplus and more sleep those lifts are exploding again, added back 15lbs in a week. Hoping to reach my numbers from 2 years ago before I stopped lifting for a while in the next 2 or 3 months.

>>42537817
Wow that's some strong weight loss man, I am trying to cut lately but I've been having annoying binges whenever I've been on a deficit for more than 6 days. Stress plays a role too. But if I don't binge the eventual binge will get so so bad when I do break after weeks. Maybe I need to eat tastier things while cutting. Didn't you suffer severe cravings?

>>42537950
The cravings were easy to suppress after about a month. Now eating 3500 calories a day makes me feel like a tick about to burst.
I did a few things. Drinking a lot more water, drinking black coffee, and just not keeping any snack food or prepackaged shit in the house. Having to cook and prep work makes it much harder to binge out without a moment of serious reflection. The cravings go away after a while.
Though I do tend to binge out on shitty food after sex. I don't know why.

>>42524287
exactly same here in everything, handsome, fit, diet, 5'7

just use lifts, you will go to 5'8-5'10

since i use them me sex life increased to a 1000%

yes literally a 1000%, not 100% or 500% i mean 1000%

sometimes i date 3 girls in a day, sometimes 2, and had sex with 2 girls in the same day a few times already

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>>42524695

>had a girl spontaneously give me her number once in my entire life (am 25)
>only asked out by an attractive girl once
>unphotogenic as fuck but apparently pretty handsome irl according to many people + have dated some total cuties

I'm destined to never actually know how handsome I am. I look good in the mirror, but shit in all photos. I really just do not understand.

>>42537520
Nice hair dude, what products do you use

>>42538201
Nothing lol, not even shampoo, yes sounds nasty, but with hot water only and no products your hair's natural oil balance evens out, not one lady has ever said my smells bad, most of them said they liked my scent. So yah...au naturel
>>42538149
Yea I have that after sex thing too. But thanks for the tip, I do kinda remember that on my old cut cravings did fade at some point after weeks of keeping myself on a super tight leash with the help of an eca stack.

>>42538201
>>42538451
Ohyea I should mention I do finish my showers off ice cold. Supposedly ice cold water is good for your hair or something, which is not why I finish cold (actually helps agains dry skin) but a nice bonus.

>>42524930
that woman reaction took me by surprise

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>>42527680
Cut your hair you home you look gay. Man are supposed to be clean cut

>>42524477
need details plz

>>42538526
It has more to do with hot water being bad for your hair and skin. You don't really help by using cold water at the end because the harm was already done. Hot water is bad for your balls, too. Ice cold showers are pointless but the water should be the lowest temperature that you can get by with.

>>42524290
How do I act handsome Anon? I've been an uggo all my life and started lifting to improve myself but there's no improving your face.