OHP is the bane of my existence >stalled for the 423rd time

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>>42512126
The story of my life

press 3x a week. do the 'russian squat routine' for the press. you will add 5-15kg in 5-6 weeks if you do some additional assistance

>>42512126
>it's yet another bar refuses to go up past your eyes episode

you don't eat enough
you don't push your chest up enough

80kg squat
60kg bench
80kg deadlift
42.5kg bent over row
35kg ohp

Just fuck my shit up

>>42512161
I am eating at a caloric surplus of 500 atm

>>42512166
that's pretty standard desu for your strength level

>>42512166
r you me everything has been going up slowly except my OHP

>>42512126
Why would anyone destroy their rotator cuffs doing that meme exercise.

Get some fucking dumbbells you idiots before you injure yourselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqKhLR1zRaU&t=204s

>>42512184
>press
>meme exercise
kill yourself my man

>>42512126
U press 1pl8 yet? If u do change to a better program.

>>42512166

what's your bodyweight?

>>42512215
what's a better program?

>>42512166
You're just weak overall. OHP maybe the best lift there.

>>42512166

your OHP is fine compared to your strength level, your diddly is actually what seems to be lagging... your flexors and adductors need work

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>>42512166
100kg squat
110kg deadlift
60kg benchpress
why is my chest so shit senpai

>>42512222
Intermediate (concurrent/conjugate/percentage based) instead of linear. E.g. tm, madcow, etc. Look it up.

>>42512220
79kg 6'2"

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>>42512126

>>42512237
Your chest matches your squat. You deadlift is abysmal though. Should be a plate heavier than your squat at least

Is there a difference between seated and standing ohp, i feel like seating im able to focus more on my shoulder/upper bodies instead standing

>>42512184
/fit/ proving once again how fucking stupid they are

>>42512266
>Your chest matches your squat
reeeeeeeeee not him but I've been perpetually lagging with my bench behind squat bt 30-40kg. I'm quick to progress on legs, but chest has just been a nightmare.

>>42512126
why do you do them?
because a fat old man told you to?

>doing seated OHP
>can't get it up the weight
>walk of shame as I grab lighter dumbbells

>>42512166

85kg squat
62.5kg bench
90kg DL
40kg OHP

does that mean ive got a good OHP?

>>42512246

and im assuming those lifts are 5RM?

>>42512285
t.lanklet who tried ohp and failed miserably and is now bitter about them

>>42512285

that's why i do most things

>>42512312
no, i never tried them at all.
why do you do them as opposed to other shoulder exercises?

>>42512350
because it is the best shoulder exercise

>>42512237
i had a 160 kg deadlift at those bench and squat numbers you fucking weakling

>>42512373
this tbqh, made the best shoulder gains of my life with OHP

>>42512166
You know there's nothing weird about a 35kg ohp if you bench 60kg, stop inventing imbalance when you've been lifting for 3 months

>>42512386

DYEL here

OHP gave me shoulders, people have commented abt how ive filled out

>>42512421

but his lifts ARE imbalanced anon

not the OHP but the deadlift is seriously lagging

is fit really full of dyel faggots

>>42512373
>>42512386
but why standing barbell?
standing you use the whole body, but you would have a lower 1rm from strict press vs seated shoulder press. but you could push press when standing up to "cheat" the ohp for the eccentric portion when nearing your max for what you were doing.
Dumbbells would require more stabilization than a barbell, so while the barbell would let you lift more weight, the dumbbell would cause more activation of the shoulder muscle, shouldn't you be doing both of these variations?

>>42512453
No, but this thread is

>>42512456
t. dyel

>>42512453
half of /fit/ is now /pol/ new friends who are lifting for le race war and try really hard to fit in

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>>42512152
>tfw sitting there almost shitting yourself trying to raise the bar past eye level for at least 15 seconds
>someone actually comes up behind you and says "let it go bro"

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>twf did 135x2 ohp today

>>42512485
yes, thats why i'm asking these questions.
are you retarded?
>tfw look like a rugby player before ever stepping foot into a gym

My OHP stalled for a long time and I finally got past my plateau. I was only pressing 1 day a week (5/3/1 program) & I added a second day doing 5x5. Took 2 weeks to break my stall.

Got 160x1 & 145x5. Doing 125 5x5.

>>42512456
it's true that you should do the press sitting for more shoulder activation/isolation. that goes for both db's and bb's, of course.

I tend to use leg drive during my last OHP reps though, when I can't bring it up by arm/shoulder strength alone, and then slowly bring it back down over and over. creates a good burn in the triceps.

>>42512512
I'm doing sl 5x5 and everything apart from my squats ends up stalling because i end up doing everything just 1.5 times a week

With accessories though its not too bad for overall development.

>>42512529
>tfw forced to do seated ohp because my gym was made for midgets

Lanklets btfo, it seems

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>>42512499
>135x2

>>42512126
Why is his grip so fucking wide?

>bb bench 100x5
>db bench 44s x 5
>ohp 50x4
i just want thick joocy delts :'(

>>42512604
n-suns 531 is good for ohp/bench
Source: 190x1 ohp at 210lbs 6'2

>>42512624
thanks, I'll look into it!

>>42512553

lmao do you work out in a cavern or something

>>42512708
Everyone always says this. I'm 6 foot 3 and live in central London. My gym is underground and has relatively low ceilings. I can touch them, so if i do standing OHP i can't fully extend my arms because the weights hit the ceiling.

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>BP 100 kg x3
>FSq 100 kg x3
>DL 145 kg x5

I didn't start progressing until I dropped OHP and BSq. OHP was 60 kg x4 last time I tried and my squat was stalling indefinitely around 100-110 kg x5.
I think I'll add OHP again once my BP stalls hard. So far so good.
Back squats, I don't know. I used to love them but I keep leaning forward when rising from the hole and the whole lift just becomes a grind.

>>42512456
holy fuck all that was literally wrong. Educate yourself. This is why it is dangerous to take lifting advice form this board because people like you dish out bullshit advice.

>>42512292
Relatively yeah
Overall you're just shit

Straight bar overhead pressing is one hell of a diagnostic tool. It'll tell you a lot about your spinal stability, scapular mobility, shoulder strength and function. But it's rarely a good fit for those struggling to achieve good positions.

First off, the symmetrical stance (feet parallel on the floor) has the potential to create instability and hyperextension at the lumbar-pelvic junction. It's this lack of trunk and pillar support that becomes the weakest link in the functional chain. It limits top-end loads and places unwanted stress on the spine.

Since the body is a functional unit, this hyperextension can become more notable when you lack the ability to achieve a neutral, or possibly even slightly extended, thoracic spine position. A rounded mid-back will be tough on the lower back and also on the shoulder, reducing space in the shoulder girdle for structures to properly function.

Between the lack of lumbar spine stability, thoracic spine mobility, and the ability to display functional range of motion and stability through the shoulder girdle, the overhead barbell press is risky.

TL;DR : stop overhead pressing, it's a useless lift that won't even grow your delts

>>42512790
wear a belt if you are worried about your lower back
or
increase lower back strength

also, doesnt grow your delts?
>the exercise wear you can lift the most amount of weight focusing on shoulders wont grow your shoulders

broscience

>>42512126
start doing push press instead

>>42512379
cool story bro, I walked to the gym when turned 18 pulled straight 200 kg no prob, benched 40 kg though

>>42512166
you're me op

>>42513029

strengthen your hip adductors

>>42513045
how? adductor machine? I hate machines but if i need to ill do it

>>42512166
135kg squat
145kg deadlift
77.5kg bench
40kg ohp
65kg row

JUST

>>42513150

low bar squats, don't go ATG. going slightly below parallel before coming back up will engage your glutes, adductors, and abdominals in addition to your quads.

>>42512126
do more volume, do different rep schemes
If you're usually doing 5x5 then try 10x3, 3x10 5x7, whatever
Also, look into concurrent periodization

>>42512724
student at ucl or lse?

>>42512166
i'd be more concerned about your squat, dead, and bent over row than your military press desu senpai

>>42513163
Okay, I've only been doing BB squats for a couple week, so I'll keep this in mind

thanks anon

>>42513151
wew

>>42513171
27 year old wageslave working as a test consultant at a pension company on southbank and living with a chink family in china town

>>42512166
80 kg ddy
80 kg squat
40 kg bench
26kg OHP

WHY?

>>42513244

what's your bodyweight?

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140 kg ddy
110 kg squat
100 kg bench
75 kg ohp
>tfw weak

140kg deadlift for 5
85kg squat for 6
75kg bench for 5
52.5kg OHP for 4

Rate me

Squat is terrible because of knee issues from the past, going slow with it

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>>42513275
>140kg ddy
>105kg squat
>65kg bench
>45kg ohp

th-thanks rippletits

Jesus fuck, do you guys even lift?

>>42513362
T. Dyel larper

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>>42513275

165kg x5 ddy
105kg x5 squat
78kg x5 bench
45kg x5 ohp

125kg x 5 DL
110kg x 8 squat
90kg x 1 BP
72.5kg x 1 OHP

I don't know what the fuck happened here

>>42513580
sorry you got triggered

60kg OHP
92.5kg Bench Press
85kg Front Squats
180kg Deadlift

JUSS FUK MINE SHIT UUP

>>42512237
I know them feels, currently doing canditohq six week program and its helping my bench (its basically just increasing bench frequency over SS I think that's doing it)

>>42512741
Had the same problem, started rotating my feet out a bit more and using the pushing knees out cue which helped

>>42513770
Its always the case with faggots that pop up posting "hurr i'm better than you" shit. Everyone posting sub par stats knows they're sub par. Acting superior is not what this board is about, and I don't actually know anyone who lifts who takes the piss out of people genuinely trying, because they know how much work it actually took to get where they are.

Hence you're probably some dyel larper trying to make himself feel better.

Started creatine again and ate abit more so I'm 3-4 kg heavier than jan-aug
Did 60kgx3 last workout and then 57,5x5 today (on 531BBB). had done 60x2 and 57,5x4 before. It's very nice to progress, but it's still shit I suppose.
Will be nice to get to the point where I can add the full plate directly for all working sets

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>>42513873
See this image for context. That's mostly what I reacted to.
I don't really know if these guys are manlets/twinks, but in any other case this "how much work it actually took to get where they are" would be a few months of lifting, except for the BP on the first post. But if that opinion triggers you, then there's not really anything I can do about that.

>120kg Dead
>80kg Squat
>60kg Bench
>50kg OHP
>60kg Calf Raise

What kind of monster am I

>>42512166
are you an 11yo school girl?

Would push press help?

>>42513151
>>42513244
>>42513773

115kg deadlift
105kg squat
72kg bench
50kg ohp
Hey it's not that bad

How to break your stall:
Push press
OHP doubles or triples
Press more during the week (4x helped me)

>>42513151
How is that even possible when you follow linear progression

>tfw weak ass (0 glute activation)

110kg squat
150kg diddly
100kg bench
65kg OHP

>>4251360
i outbench you by 10kg but you deadlift 60kg more than me

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>>42512126
90kg squat
80kg bench
100kg deadlift
45kg ohp

SQUAT WON'T FUCKING GROW
>kill me
70kg bodyweight btw

>>42512166
85kg squat
52.5kg bench.....
100kg deadlift
55kg bent over row
40kg ohp

I just wanna hit 1pl8 bench, been stalling ALL YEAR. Time to switch to gslp

>>42514025
>75kg ohp
>a few months of lifting
woah boy, sure is larpy in here this afternoon

Should one give up on OHP if 50kg is their complete plateau?
I've tried absolutely everything and the cunt 52.5kg bar will not go up without cheating. I can barely do 50kg for 3

>>42514656
Yes. Actual lifting as part of a routine.

http://strengthlevel.com/strength-standards/shoulder-press/kg

I don't know if you're a 60 kg twink though.

>>42512494
Lmao

>>42512126
How much do you OHP and what program are you running?

some presses here are a bit high compared to the benches, and it's quite obvious that you're cheating on your form

t. someone that mainly presses instead of benching, has a 80 kg strict press, a 100 kg push press and a 130 kg bench, my powerlifting mates that mostly bench press 50% of it at most with actual good form

How much more can you guys push press than you can press strict? I can do 145x3 strict with a pause but I only pushpress 155x3.

just did ohp today.
75kg (165p) 7 times.

it gets better. ama u weeklings

>>42512499
same. was going for 5 at 145lb bodyweight but i just felt dead after 2

>>42515732
are you the auschwitz survivor from yesterday that name his smith machine press -45 lbs as OHP? if not then it's good and I'm mirin, but that thread was kekworthy.

Hope you're repping atleast 120 kg on bench, otherwise my e-stat detector will go off again

>>42512456
Good luck getting big boy weight up by yourself with dumbbells

What I don't understand about ohp is how numb it feels. I don't feel any fatigue in my muscles, yet the bar just wont fucking go up sometimes.

>>42515766
nah wasnt me. havent flat benched in a while but im pressing 93kg x 8 on incline

>>42515807
Idk if 90 pound dbs count as big boy weight but I can kick those up to my shoulders np

>>42512166
85 kg squats
30 kg bench
20 kg OHP
at 68 kg

Fucking
Kill
Me

1 rpm, how am I doing bros?
5'10" 68 kg, skinnyfat->Dyel now I'm bulking
115 kg deads
80 kg squats
70 kg bench
42.5 kg OHP


Before you comment on my squat, I noticed my legs were getting too T-rex, so I switched to PPLPPLx to work more upperbody. Still has huge legs so now I work legs once a week (PPLPP). Having huge legs sucks dick b/c getting nice fitting pants is hard.

>>42513773
hey you're pretty much literally me

I think I (and possibly we) have long arms, so it makes us excel at deadlifting while also making upper body lifts more difficult

just a theory tho

>>42512126
why this dude in the pic has such dogshit form?
you're supposed to have narrow grip so you could rest your arms on your lats

>>42514719
I wouldn't. Have you worked on your triceps and incline bench? Maybe try dumbbell military press (heels touching) to see if an arm is weaker or your core is holding you back.

>>42515823
Yeah hate that feeling, get it with lateral dmbell raises and bent over row too.

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140kg binch
260kg deadlift

80KG OHP,fucking kill my ass

>>42516138
that's in the normal range really, OHP in proportional athletes should be ~60% of binch

>>42516180
but i wanna ohp 100(
why is it so hard anon

>>42516219
a legit 2 plate strict press is rare as fuck, don't think I've seen one yet irl at all

>>42516250
Ive seen couple of roidaroos do it
But i wanna do it natty(
smolov for ohp?

>>42512166

80kg squat
60kg bench
110kg deadlift
30kg ohp

manlet 5'6 at 65kg reporting

>>42512555
Checked n kek'd

>>42516278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx1ytBh6kgU

here's a few, but they are all Ex-Athletes, current athletes etc. from russia, so strength-elite

for OHP routine I find the old school low rep stuff interesting, but can't say too much because I have similar numbers as you and also want to get to 100 kg

>>42516366
interesting side note: the dude at 4:39 that seems to struggle with the 100 kg strict press is torokthiy, an olympic gold medalist that can rack jerk 255 kg. Really shows how you need additional specific training to strict press above 100 kg

>>42512166
my lifts are pretty similar to that except my ohp is 45 kg

>>42516366
i am currenty doing 2 times/week strict for 5x3
seated for 5x3 and 5x10
also dmb press for 5x5 and 5x10
progressing bit by bit , biggest increase is on dumbells

>>42516505
I'd recommend military presses (heels together) in important part is your core stabilization.

My gym has a cadre of strongmen competitors. They all laugh at me for being natural and only weighing 170lbs, but they have also helped me get to a 185lbx2 press from the pathetically weak 115lbx5 that I was stalled at for ever and a day on texas method.

the program is fairly simple and follows as such

>the press for 6 sets of 3, start with your best set of 5 for weight
>drop to 80% of that weight and rep out
>weighted dips, 5 sets of 8 or 5, alternate going heavy/light with the incline bench
>incline bench, 5 sets of 8 or 5, alternate going heavy/light with the dips

I do that twice weekly and try to add the minimum amount of weight as often as possible to the exercises, I also train with some of the strongman implements like logs, circus DBs and other shit sometimes, but I don't know how much that has actually helped my press. don't add weight to anything unless you get EVERY single rep on the work sets. if you've been stalled at a press weight for 3+ workouts, try substituting the press for push press or close grip bench for a couple weeks, then coming back to it.

>>42515040
Are you mentally handicapped? Do you expect everyone who starts lifting to be 300lbs lard-asses just because you were? No shit for some skeleton-lord it's going to take longer to achieve a fucking 75kg OHP, which btw even fat shits won't even nearly achieve in couple of months

>>42512749
>Educate yourself
>asking questions
>wasn't given an explanation
durrrr

>>42512166

70kg Squat
70kg Dead
60kg Bench
40kg OHP
65kg Row

T-thanks rock climbing

>>42512269
Standing is full-body, giving legs/core/stability a look in.

6'3" @ ~210 pounds
Here are my 5 rep maxes:
210 lb Dead
140 lb Squat
70 lb OHP
~100 lb bent over rover
~105 lb bench

Fuck my shit up. I've been lifting for 3 months now but also cutting. The only thing I've seen that's grown significantly is my biceps, triceps, lats, and lower back.

>>42512126
I OHP'D 155 for an easy double yesterday. I found that seated pin presses at the bottom of the movement helped my press a lot.

>>42516605
my core is not an issue, my weak shoulders are
i used to do bear routine based on bench/snatch dl
tricep and trap gainz were insane, however my ohp is poverty tier
i will try not lockouting for a bit and just demolish shoulders

>>42516926
*row

fuck i'm dumb

>>42512188
love this dude

>>42516926
don't focus on cutting and your numbers will grow even more rapidly (along with size). cut when you got something to cut down to.

>>42512184
>rotator cuffs

>>42516739
>Do you expect everyone who starts lifting to be 300lbs lard-asses

No. But I don't expect them to be 5'8" 140 lbs twinks either.

>just because you were?
I've never been fat. Currently 6'4", 180 lbs.

>No shit for some skeleton-lord it's going to take longer to achieve a fucking 75kg OHP
Sure. Mechanical disadvantage. Longer ROM.

>which btw even fat shits won't even nearly achieve in couple of months
I believe that varies. Even though weight/bf% can be high - testosterone, %lean mass, natural levers (short arms, for example) can really benefit them.

>>42512168
you don't eat enoguh

>>42517109
Well desu im only cutting down to 190. I started at 265 and I was obese.

>>42515971
How long have you been lifting?

Estimated one rep maxes
Back Squat: 97 kg[Novice]
Deadlift: 122 kg[Intermediate]
Bench Press: 56 kg[Untrained]
Overhead Press: 44 kg[Novice]

^This is from symmetric strength, haven't checked actual 1RM. Just bear in mind I haven't The Press™'ed for a couple of months so I can build up my bench. SymStr results seem surprisingly accurate.
I'm 5'10 and 67kg

>>42517247
>I believe that varies
That's because you're in your second month of noobgains and think that rate will last

is it normal to slightly bend backwards when doing OHP? Or is my form fucked?

>>42517700
You don't want to be bending. Your core should be tight. You don't want it to become a a standing inclined bench press. Your head may move back, but chin still down.

>>42512166

145X3 kg squat
95X3X3 bench
155X3 deadlift
60X3X3 ohp

175cm@64kg

>>42512126
That's a big bar for a little man.

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>>42512126

>mfw my OHP increases at a steady rate but I always stall on bench

My goddamn OHP is nearly at my bench. What the fuck am I doing wrong? I work chest into my routine twice a week.

>>42517786
For you.

>>42512166
68kg/ 5'10 grill. Thanks for your post and your ((yous)). My gym is full of either men way stronger than me, or 14 year old sticc boys.

80kg squat
90kg deadlift
60kg bench
27.5kg ohp

>no offence

>>42517803
There is no way they should be close. Sounds like you are fucking up your ohp.

>>42512724
get manleter

>>42517830
post body

>>42517888
I'm just here to bask in having similar lifts to novice men

>and because my ohp is also shit

>>42518010
>Tits
>or
>GTFO
You aren't a lady

>>42518010
Yeah well you must be a pretty advanced grill to have those lifts. Post body

55kg squat
65kg deadlift
42kg bench
37.5kg OHP
45kg barbell row

What does this mean? Why is my OHP comparatively so high? My arms are long and skinny too.

>>42518108
shit form, push press, back bend as it is with all people that have 70+% of their bench as "OHP"

(which would actually be valid, because push presses, jerks and olympic presses all go under OHP umbrella terms as well.)

>>42517511
>That's because you're in your second month of noobgains [...]
Please stop coming up with irrelevant ad homs.

When I wrote "I believe that varies", I was talking about the lifting potential of fat people. If you're informed about lifting, then you would know that you can't decide performance based of one variable alone.

>>42518258
>make a ridiculous claim
>"muh ad hominems"
post body or get the fuck out

>>42518283
this. 6'4" 180 twig saying an intermediate press is few months, top kek I want to see his shit physique

>>42518283
Feel free to refute that "ridiculous claim" using science and reason instead of bringing up irrelevant shit.

>>42518303
so you actually have a shit physique and are scared to post it? Typical armchair lifter

>>42518303
>use science to show people who are new to lifting can get to 75kg OHP in two months
yeah fuck off

>>42518345
given by his stats he is either skinnyfat or otter at best, so he probably can't even put up half of that. Probably does another exercise and thinks he can transfer it to his OHP by multiplication by 2 and adding 20 kg

>>42518299
That's only an "intermediate" press if you're a small person. And you should reach an intermediate press after a couple of months of lifting.

>>42518313
I could descend to your level and ask you to post your body, too, but I won't because it's simply not relevant. I've provided links to StrengthLevel. That's the state of the argument.

>>42518372
you weigh 180 lbs at 6'4". You are a small person.

And you argue about strength levels from a polled site, that takes seated standards and deviates from e.g. sym-strength by a wide margin.

Let me guess, you press below 50 kg even, but because you LARP-lift already you think you will do 75 in 2 months

>>42518372
>you should reach an intermediate press after a couple months of lifting.

Intermediate standards is per definition an average of 2 years of dedicated strength training you massive DYEL faggot armchair lifter. Go ahead, post a vid/picture of you pressing anything close to any numbers you're speaking of with your 6'4" 180 twink frame.

>>42518372
Did you read your own link you retard? It states even novice level lifts require at least 6 months, intermediate two years

You fucking dyels and your textbook knowledge jesus christ start lifting and you'll realize what's up

>>42512126
I'm starting to think that progress on OHP is just an urban myth.

I've been doing the same 3 sets of 8-12 DB presses @ 45lbs for what seems like 6 months now.

I can't do 6 reps with 50lbs. Everything else is progressing fine.

>>42518345
>>42518367
Did I hit a nerve among small guys?

>people who are new to lifting can get to 75kg OHP in two months

That's now what I said. What I said was:

>I don't really know if these guys are manlets/twinks, but in any other case this "how much work it actually took to get where they are" would be a few months of lifting

A few months of lifting is what I would consider to be 2-4. And provided you're not a manlet twink <80 kg, then that shouldn't be hard if you're actually doing a routine.

>>42518367
>>42518397
If you were right you wouldn't need to talk about me. You could just explain why I'm wrong.

>And you argue about strength levels from a polled site, that takes seated standards and deviates from e.g. sym-strength by a wide margin.

Eh.

https://symmetricstrength.com/standards#/80/kg/male/-
Lists 74 kg as "proficient" but there isn't really that much of an actual difference in those terms they use since they have so many (8).

>>42518397
>Intermediate standards is per definition an average of 2 years of dedicated strength training

Sounds highly arbitrary. There are all kinds of variables involved. Also please see below.

>>42518425
>It states even novice level lifts require at least 6 months, intermediate two years

Sure. That doesn't mean that's correct. A person with long arms and short legs will probably pull intermediate DL's within a few months. A person with short arms will be better at BP. Also, I'm pretty sure they're referring to a the "overall" fitness of the person. I. e. once you hit those levels for all the lifts, you're likely to have been lifting for X amount of time. It therefore accounts for variance in the different lifts due to body composition and other individual factors.

>>42518463
switch up your rep ranges. Do different pressing movements that are suited towards where you fail your current main pressing movement (sticking point, i.e. head level, or rather lockout, or rather start?)

Stalls don't exist, if you stop progressing in one rep/volume range you should switch to another

>>42518504
>is 6'4" 180
>calls others small guys
lmao, literally same height and 40 lbs heavier at low bf%, you faggot twink. You obviously have no lifting experience, And as long as you don't have an abnormal sub 6' armspan at your height (highly unlikely) and your low bodyweight you are unlikely to even press in the mid 40s (kg).

Prove me wrong, dyel faggot. Post a picture of yourself or you've outed yourself as an armchair lifter with no experience in the gym. You have no idea how regular trainees in the gym progress, let alone dedicated strength athletes as you probably have never even interacted with them (comes with being a roleplaying incel)

>>42518557
Sorry, not seeing any arguments.

>>42518504
>link a website as a source
>someone points out your website disagrees with you
>"sure, but that doesn't mean it's correct :^)"
link actual sources instead of spewing bullshit. To quote you, " I've provided links to StrengthLevel. That's the state of the argument."

>>42518596
Try harder to avoid posting your skinnyfat excuse of a body. You have lost all credibility by outing yourself as a lanky, lightweight person at the start, and seeing as you fail to post any achievements of yours it's obvious that you're just making shit standards up.
>There are all kinds of variables involved
says the faggot that generalizes and makes an outrageous claim (75 kg in a few month) that at most extremely gifted people (due to proportions) could reach, in this case rather SHORT and HEAVY people.

Intermediate definition across all standards site is roughly 2 years, and accordingly extracted from the polled data.

>>42518607
>>link a website as a source
Yes.

>>someone points out your website disagrees with you
If you think that those generalizations makes it impossible to hit various lifts in a shorter time, then I don't really know how to help you understand the topic. The text there is referring to "intermediate lifter" or "novice lifter" for example, as in full-body capacity. It's not talking about specific lifts. Intermediate DL lifts, for example, with my bodyweight would be 150 kg. Slightly above 3pl8. That's not something you need smelling salts for, exactly.

>>"sure, but that doesn't mean it's correct :^)"
Well, it literally doesn't. That text is pretty stand-alone from the lifting data gathered by them. Also please see the above text. Sym-strength is in sync with that data, too.

>>42518659
I found some substance in your post:
>an outrageous claim (75 kg in a few month) that at most extremely gifted people (due to proportions) could reach, in this case rather SHORT and HEAVY people.

If you're doing a proper routine, say PP(LS) it shouldn't be a problem. But it feels like I'm moving goalposts as I'm specifying things that could work. I still maintain that someone who isn't a manlet twink (or an /extreme/ lanklet) should be able to do it.

>Intermediate definition across all standards site is roughly 2 years, and accordingly extracted from the polled data.
The key thing here is "across all standards" (even though I believe you mean to write "all standard sites"), since that's the approximated time it should take to reach that overall level of strength for all-most lifts.

>>42518796
>I still maintain that someone who isn't a manlet twink (or an /extreme/ lanklet) should be able to do it.
You're so fucking retarded. You're so goddamn clueless it hurts. You're nowhere near 75kg OHP yourself. You have no idea what you're talking about

>If you're doing a proper routine, say PP(LS)
of all the routines you picked PPL as the one to reach 75kg OHP in two months with. Kek you're a joke, remove yourself from the genepool

>>42518796
okay, so the final message is that you don't lift shit and rather prefer to imagine that you can lift it. Good trolling mr. skinnytwinks, but this is a thread for fitness discussion and people prefer to hear advice from those that actually achieved a certain lifted weight, not small guys like you that can't even press 0.5plate

>>42518835
Sorry you're mad. Feel free to try again.

>>42518842
The final message seems to be that some people are frustrated about being in the lower percentiles of male lifting capacity.

>>42518874
post your body and/or a vid of you pressing 75 kg, small guy. /fit/ is not for theorycrafting, and your analysis is highly flawed anyway as you chose to ignore all polling data thrown at you from the sites and rather wish to reinterpretate them.

I just started lifting and i find it really hard too.

I can bench and curl 25kg (i know, pathetic) but OHPing it for 3x8 sets is fucking killing me

>>42518905
>you chose to ignore all polling data

No. 75 kg OHP within a few months isn't out of the question at all for someone who isn't a twink. Look at Symmetric Strength, for example, that someone provided as a more reliable example than StrengthLevel. Individual intermediate exercise lifts are highly possible for Strengthlevel; individual intermediate/proficient for SymStrength. EXRX has dyel standards for some reason.

>rather wish to reinterpret them.

I haven't misrepresented any lifting data. Feel free to show where I've done that. The general "x years of lifting to be an y lifter" has been deal with in earlier posts.

>>42519005
yeah, and your point is that you yourself can't reach it because you are, as you stated, a 6'4" 180 twink. Thank you gentlesir, I understand now.

>>42519027
>your point is that you yourself can't reach it
I haven't said what I can and can't lift, nor have I tried to make a point out of it. Please read the thread.

>because you are, as you stated, a 6'4" 180
Yes. That however, doesn't have anything to do with the truthfulness of the words above.

>twink
That's your inference. I haven't written anything like that.

>>42512741
who dis

WILL YOU FAGGOTS STOP USING KG

>>42514460
Sticking with SL 5x5 until my squat finally stalled while other lifts were barely progressing for a couple months, made the jump to nsuns now tho

>>42512166

my stats at 170lb/77kg / 6ft / 27yo

5rm
OHP: 45kg
Row: 55kg
Bench: 60kg
Squat: 75kg
Dead: 110kg

why are my lifts so shit? are they in proportion or not?
OHP I 5 repped 47.5kg last week with shit form so sticking to 45kg

why wont bench increase, why is my squat so shit?
could it be down to leverages? low T?

thanks don't forget to subscribe

>>42519134
I'm the guy who ohp 75kg .the website you sent earlier tells me i'm stronger than 72% of male lifter in my age/weight group ,I don't consider myself really strong but even your website disagrees with you ,75 kg ohp isn't weak

>>42519797
>even your website disagrees with you
in what way?

>75 kg OHP isn't weak
There sure seems to be some people ITT who disagrees with you. I don't consider it to be weak, but you should hit it within a few months of lifting.

>>42513151
All of my lifts are lower than yours, but my OHP is higher

How is this possible

>>42512582
Because he cheats so it doesn't really matter what form he uses.

>>42519928
Idk man, all my lifts feel comfortable except ohp, it's like my shoulders are about to snap any moment and there's zero fatigued feeling after

>>42519731
> tfw blue man

>>42512126
Hit 205lbs on OHP the other day

5'9
180
32yo

>Tfw I have a 110kg strict OHP at 105kg bodyweight

Feels good man, I love pressing over my body weight

>>42519887
The website tells me im stronger than 72% of lifter of my age/weight group plus I don't really see a lot of people overhead pressing more than 60 kg ,but desu I don't really see anyone overhead pressing