/NPG/ - Neck Pill General: Data Driven Edition

These threads should include facial gains & facial aesthethics in general.

Good initiative, btw.

How do I train neck then?

>>42507905
That'll just invite the lookism fags over and ruin everything.

>>42507925
Sucking cock 4 sets of 10 reps.

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>>42507905

Thanks bro. I think we all know about the jaw being critical for the face, but I'm still combing through research (and self-experimenting) how to best develop it. Maybe in a few months I'll have something. Bodyfat percentage is obviously a huge factor. Only other thing I'm looking at is high volume gum chewing.

The other pill I want to drop after doing some more technical research is what I'm calling "The Lens Pill", i.e. how camera photo distortions can absolutely ruin you if you're not careful. Think selfie cam distortions. Pic related.

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do you make the cut?

>>42507977
barely hitting 15" at 6'1
But I only started working it so I'm sure I'll get there

I'm a woman how do I make neck gains

I get nauseous from letting my neck hang backwards repeatedly, am I a faggot?

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>tfw doing neck exercises RIGHT NOW

This is my first time hearing about this. I'm skeptical, but open-minded. Can I hear some counterpoints?

>>42508010
Neck curls right? Same here. How long have you been doing neck exercises?

>>42507977

Nice OC, haven't come across that before. Who's this Vertu guy?

However I don't think height is the best correlator -- it's probably width of head (which is often related to height in general).

>>42508005

As a woman, if you want to maximize attractiveness, you don't necessarily want a big neck. Remember, attractiveness is about sexual dimorphism. So unless your neck looks like you just got out of a concentration camp I wouldn't worry about it.

For women, focus on hip/waist ratio by working glutes and losing weight in general. I think chest work can push out your breasts too. Don't cut to too low of a body fat % or you'll lose your assets. Just try not to be fat.

>>42507977
5'10 with 16"

Almost there

>>42508028
Same counterpoints to having big muscles in general.

>>42508034
It's my second day, I'm doing 30 rep sets with a 2kg plate. Now I just shorten the ROM by not letting my neck go back too far. Helps a bit.

>>42507972
That's some nice work you're doing anon! Please continue and make a thread if you've found something interesting.... Especially concerning high volume gum chewing

>>42508013
Who's cock you bopping on, mate? Going to bop on me lads cock later on tonight for good neck gains.

>>42508049
I recently started too but I'm doing 3 sets of 100 reps. Hopefully the nausea will go away with more training. Keep it up bro!

>>42508038
>Who's this Vertu guy?
no clue. found it on google images and its from fitmisc

>>42507875
5'10 with barely 13.5"

>>42508042

I think it's better to go by head/jaw width rather than height. Once your neck is at or slightly past your jaw (in width) then you've made it.

>>42508079
You too m8, don't forget to make a before pic

>>42508079

How's your breathing? How's your general physical fitness? I'm curious why some people seem to have this problem.

I think there could be a motion sickness component, such as when you take a bumpy bus ride after not being on a bus for a few months and get a slight headache.

Make sure you stay hydrated too.

>>42507991

why the fuck does having a bigger neck make you appear smarter and more trustworthy

fucknig women REEEEEEEEEEEEE

careful guys here's realistic no surgery how to be more attractive guide:
-get chad tier neck
-clear up your skin
-low bf%
that's it. if you still look like shit you lost genetic lottery
body/beard/hair/clothes/accessories/other beta cuck things dont matter

Neck is the new legs. Never skip neck day.

>>42508113
I go to the gym 5x a weekend run with my friends almost every weekend (still DYEL though). I also drink a lot of water, probably around 4 liters a day.
I always forget to control my breathing while exercising though, maybe that's it.

>>42508130
>no surgery
Genuine question: why are Americans so against plastic surgery?

>>42508150
*5x a week

>>42508160
Not American but I believe in doing the best with what you got if you were born normal.

>>42508038
>as a woman

As a man, shut the fuck up

>>42508160
im european
i wouldnt do it because i dont have to but i have nothing against it - whatever makes you happy
you should first see how your face really looks like without spots/zits/blemishes and lard covering it and then if it sucks - consider surgery

>>42508150

Hmm alright, best of luck then my dude. Find a breathing rhythm that works. For some people, syncing to music during neck sets can help... Headbangers were the original big neck dudes anyways haha.

>>42508132

Truth.

>played football in highschool
>Will never be a necklet again
feelsgoodman

>>42508127
it's the halo effect

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>>42507977
>5'11
>17.5"
better than average

Whar rep range should I use for neck curls?

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>>42508130

Nice mini-guide. I'd also throw in shoulder work for the body, I mean eventually you want to meet and fuck in person right, and that necessarily involves your body.

For men, shoulder-to-hip ratio is pretty key.

Also regarding clear skin - for online dating at least, you can just photoshop that to be better for the first impression. Model photos are photoshopped as fuck anyways so I don't think that's a big deal. People anchor very heavily to their first impressions.

>>42508261
hypertrophy range 8-12

Guys we need to keep this a secret before normies catch on

>>42508261
>>42508289

WRONG, you need HIGH REPS and VOLUME for neck. At only a dozen reps, the weight you'll need is going to be extreme.

Seriously go for sets of up to 100.

Everyone should check out this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kevO_ix8ZpI

Can you generate neck gains with squats/deadlifts/shrugs, or do you have to do dedicated neck exercises?

>>42508308
>Seriously go for sets of up to 100.
ISHYGDDT

>>42508311

We need to end this meme of compound movements being enough to build up other muscles that aren't worked directly in a proportional manner.

Just doing presses won't give you the best triceps possible.

Just doing pullups and rows won't give you the best biceps possible.

Just doing deadlifts won't give you the best traps and neck possible.

I followed this stupid meme for years when I was a novice lifter, and I didn't achieve the body I wanted. When I started putting in isolation work... wow it's like the muscles I focused on started developing faster than when I didn't focus on them!

That being said you should/need to start from a reasonable base of strength (e.g. 6-12 month linear progression compound lifts). But after that... decide what your goals are and do whatever is the most effective to reach them. We're not all training to become powerlifters. And of course try things for yourself to see what works.

>>42508357

OK so I already neck curl a 45 plate for 100+ reps. Tell me what weight I should be putting on my head to achieve any reasonable growth in the 8-12 rep range...

I actually think it's much safer to do higher rep neck work, otherwise you put yourself in a position that's much more dangerous.

>>42507977
>6'5
>not on the list
17.5" neck, so a bit below passing

>>42508382
What other muscles do you train(and expect to grow) with 100+ reps?

>>42508308
if ur gym dont have a neck machine get one of these. better than resting plates on your forehead like a walllicker

https://www.amazon.com/neck-harness/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aneck%20harness

>>42508439

>implying this is any more normal to do in a commercial gym

>>42508453
>implying implications that werent implied

So will I see gainz if I do 3x100 neck curls/neck extensions/side curls each day?

My neck's been getting bigger since getting a motorcycle. Not letting the wind snap your neck while looking behind you does wonders over time.

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>tfw big lenny was right all along

neck curls are ok but what all you necklets really need to look into is neck bridging. aka wrestlers bridge.

have you looking more chad-like in no time. just do them safely.

>>42508285
i got 1.57 ratio and dont even lift

I honestly can't tell if everyone here is meme'ing or serious - I've never seen /fit/ so agreeable and positive about something like this.

>>42508667

too scared

i'll paralyze myself lmao

fuck you OP, neck theory flew under the radar for so long. we were living in a sea of pencil necks, now every dork who manages to stumble on /fit/ is going to train a thick slayer neck.

stop letting the normies in on looksmaxing. you've ruined neck theory, but do NOT let the plebs know about the carotene pill or skull theory.

>>42509040
>skull theory
>carotene pill
pls anon help me

>>42509091
if you supplement a shitload of beta carotene it improves your skin tone

>>42509091
Eat carrots or take beta carotene for a natural tan no sun required. Gives you that dark handsome look along with better, clearer skin. No idea about skull theory maybe anon is a phrenologist

>>42509105
How many carrots a day?

>>42508993
It's because this is literally "one weird trick to make you look RIPPED", and it works, so obviously there's nothing to argue about.

>>42508834
>not having any ass

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>>42509105
skull theory = big, robust skulls are masculine

>>42509040

the fucked thing is neck theory is real kek

>>42509117
I'm no nutritionist anon so you should research that for yourself

As for me:
>be in high school years ago
>read some shit about carrots being good for the skin
>take the carrot pill
>eat fuck tons a day
>slowly turn orange over the course of some months
>stop eating carrots because scared of becoming permanently orange
>skin gains disappear
>10/10 would recommend

>>42509123
that just looks like manlet vs. non-manlet. Obviously a smaller guy has a smaller head.

>>42509117
5 carrots a day or supplement with 30mg of beta carotene. it's not a "tan" technically, what you're going for is a carotene "glow" which is attractive regardless of skin tone. this is what makes carotene theory so powerful.

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>>42509157
m8 you are in serious need of a heavy dosage of the skull pill

>>42509176
shit I think I just got skull-pilled

>>42509120

And that's why I'm skeptical - at no point in life does the "just one thing for massive improvement" ever work, hard for me to believe this.

>>42508285
I have 40 inch glutes this isn't fair my guy. I thought it was shoulder to waist anyway.

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>>42509511
Obama would be the most attractive president if he just swallowed the /neckpill/

>>42508834
>t. glutelet
take the Glute Pill now

>>42509511
it's a big misconecption, hips are way more important than waist, narrow hips are fucking everything, you can be bf and still have an amazing vtaper especially from the back

>>42508079
If I close my eyes for the whole time, I tend to get less to no nausea. Hope this helps.

>>42509603
high bf*

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>>42509603
so i fell for the SS meme? I've only been lifting for 6 months so I can still correct it I hope.

>>42508667
Good way to destroy your spine, but sure go for it.

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Post your neck routines
3x50 neck curls with one 45lb plate.

Might add side/back curls, not sure.

>>42509192
kekd

>>42509687
>dem traps
they dont even look like they belong in his body proportionally speaking

>>42509705
Roids

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>>42507875
Foot ball players all have ridiculous necks. I think all you have to do is put 5 lbs of weight on your head for 2 hours a day.

>>42509753
the guy in the pic you posted trains his neck

>>42509753
you know that most football players are on the juice, right?

>>42509818
but F1/Indycar drivers are not and they are usually short skinny dudes (the lighter/smaller you are the better).
they just train their necks directly plus fighting the g-forces in high speed corners (unless they are pussies like vettel that rest their heads on the side of the cockpit and have pancil virgin necks)

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>>42509917
forgot the pic

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>>42509917
back in the day, how many of you guys thought that picrel was jacked? or at least well built? when in fact he is a DYEL but his neck gives you the vibe that you don't fuck around with those type of guys

>>42510147

Holy fuck. That's it man this is legit shit

>>42507972
50-85mm for is ideal for headshots

Is it okay to train neck everyday

best neck workout exercises and how many sets/reps? I think I just got neck-pilled, only have a 15" neck at 5'10"...how often do you guys train your necks?

>>42510491
3 times a week and i grew one half inch in two weeks, one inch in a month

What is the perfect neck routine?

>>42507977
16" neck at 6'1"

I have a slender frame though so it actually fits me

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>>42510783
Search for alphadestiny's neck training videos. They're a good start. Just don't do wrestler bridges as a beginner.

>>42510783
>>42510968
https://youtu.be/jq0V6Ejf_XI

If I do neck curls face down will that thicken the back of my neck? Also, if I gain mass with face up curls will it mainly go to the sides or under my chin (which would reduce my jawline)?

>>42507875
what is it with these fucking stupid daily neck beard threads? literally I could get any pic, shirk something in it to the point of where someone looks like a retard and point out YOU NEED NOSE GAINS YOU NEED EAR GAINS YOU NEED EYE GAINS YOU NEED RECTUM GAINS really I don't get the point, what are you trying to accomplish?

>neck doms

>>42509740
Probably, but hardy has nice traps even in his stage play days. Pretty sure he has perfect trap insertions

>>42510147
Seriously, you have got to imagine how big you look to normies if you used to think this was big.

I've been training neck lately it grows so fast just like traps i can barely button my shirt on at the top anymore.
All you do is lie your neck off the edge of a bench and lift your head up and down 20 times and do 4 sets of it, you'll look like a twink doing it but who gives a fuk.

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>>42509127
>neck theory
>google it
>articles up the wazoo

>>42507875
It's true tho. Remember a friend of mine sending me a music video of a guy she found really hot. The only thing she mentioned being hot was the fucking neck.

>tfw years of judo/bjj/kickbox gave me a thick neck without realising it or training it specifically
>tfw it has saved me from knockouts countless times

Seriously. Blocking punches and grappling will give you a thick ass neck in no time.

>>42511774
>squatting and deadlifting for first time in 2 weeks

I genuinely have neck doms this morning.

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>>42508038
>>42508082
Some PSL faggot, pic related

>>42507977
>5'7 height
>17.5'' neck
I don't even train neck and I'm dyel skinny.

How to train neck at home? I can't be seen doing this in the gym, please guys.

>tfw long neck
>like i'm into bondage and 5 inch posture collars don't feel particularly strict to me long neck

How the hell am I supposed to get a thicc neck? I'm 16 inch shirt collar so my neck must be a bit smaller, but there's just so much neck to grow.

>>42508207
t. zero reading comprehension ESL fag

>>42512336
>Search up alpha destiny neck workouts x 1
>follow said video's advice
???
>profit

So, how many scoops should my post neck workout shake have?

>>42507972
You are doing gods work, my son. Your research will not go unpraised.

>>42512242
how do people find this show funny?
Ive give it an honest shot 3 times

>>42508413
I would still shoot for 18inch, my lanklet brother, but more is even better.

Can I inject steroids directly into my neck?

>>42508563
I never lost faith in the true lord.

Inb4 Janoy

I have a massive neck, but it's not in proportion to my chin so makes my chin look small. What do?

will boxing give me a thick neck?

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How do I measurey current neck circumference ? I never trained neck directly and I want to take the plunge. I will take measurement and a day 0 photo to make progress pics.

So, at what point of my neck do I measure ?

>>42508160
Which facial surgeries are god and which ones are too far?

>>42512122
Do you attach weights to your head?

>>42508308
>WRONG, you need HIGH REPS and VOLUME for neck
>Seriously go for sets of up to 100.
only if you cheat by using your arms

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>>42510147

He started off jacked then he stopped working out as much and/or roiding.

Here's how he looked in Blade, which got him the Prison Break role.

>>42507977

Is this flexed neck or not? Kinda important desu

>>42513201
I want to know too.

>>42507977
Height doesn't scale with frame though, I'm 5'9 16.5" neck but I got mates who are taller with thinner necks n narrower shoulders that wouldn't suit big necks.

>>42507875
I just did 3x20 neck curls and I feel dizzy and nauseous. Will it pass in time or am I never gonna make it?

>>42513737
yeah thats normal

thats why I only train my neck right before bed

>>42508127
Because weak men are usually untrustworthy desu. And the rest is halo

>>42507875

So do deadlifts work your neck?

>>42509105
I'm a red head so I assume that shit still wont make me tan?

>>42509176
How I do i train my skull?