/fraud/ steroids general

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so I did 90 minutes on the stairmaster for something like 5 days straight and then binged massively last night. I was ready to go to bed but my butthole was sore from a fat shit I took so I was trying to clean it and it took like an hour to clean my butthole cuz it was so sore. then I was hungry again and ate a box of peanut butter cups, 3 plain pretzel buns, apple fig newton bars... some cereal... and cheese sticks.

I woke up and I didnt really gain any weight probably cuz the whole week my body was depleting carbs from the 90 minutes of cardio errday.

well my knee is fucked up from climbing stairs so Im gonna take it easy the next couple days and TRY not to eat like a fat piggu.

>>42507389

What is the point of this post

>>42507346
On week 8 of my test-e cycle of 500mg a week. Only 6 weeks left... I don't want it to end bros.

>>42507637
Then don't let it

>>42507637
I didn't either

I'm now on week 35

>>42507346
>That photoshopped bane in middleschool pic
my sides holy shit

>>42507637
Fuck im in the same boat. I'm dreading the pct and off time that is about to come, but still want to have children in the future.

Thought about going off and freezing my supermarket and then just blasting and cruising as long as i want.

I feel so fucking good on test. Life is great, gains are great, everything is great.

So a few weeks ago y'all told me to go see a doc about low T. Had to cough up some dough cause insurance won't cover it but so far they had me running 250ml of HCG EOD for three weeks. Had my first injection of test today. He said it had a halflife of 12 days so I'm guessing it's test-c? They're prepping the supply for me so I didn't see the bottle. Also gave me arimidex .5 twice a week.

I have five doses of the HCG left, gonna use that and then I guess possibly just run test. Not positive on the dosage but my number was like 290 or something

I do sleep better and feel slightly better. So thanks guys for convincing me that looking into this was a wise idea.

>>42508092
>freezing my supermarket
Kek at fucking autocorrect.. Should obviously be sperm.

Going to go to r/steroid for a real answer, but would HGH of 2-3IU a day be a good first cycle for someone who is 19? Are there any safe option for the HPTA when you are under 21-22?

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> off all drugs/gear except alcohol for a year
> basically an alcoholic eating no protein for an entire year
> on Saturday it was time
> take some crack and start my ritual
> drink 4 beers while shitposting to relax the muscles
> take hot shower paying attention to quad
> place vials in hot water for a few minutes
> take them out, dry them off, alcohol swab
> draw 500 mg Test-E and 100 mg Tren-A with 18G needle
> sit on bed with legs hanging, shift weight to left glute, alcohol swab right quad
> inject at testicle height

Mossad rises.

So, what's the best stack for libido and orgasm intensity?

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what's your take on mk677 aka Ibutamoren ?

Main reason I want to use it is for recovery.I work in construction (long hours due to commuting ) and I find it hard now to train with heavy weights and do boxing class.

I've read this is good for recovery but also read it can make you feel lethargic which would make it pointless in using it.

If it is shit is there anything I could use besides juice or stimulants ?

>>42508139
>steroids
>safe
Pick one.

Stetoids will fuck with you in one way or another, it's the risk you have to be willing to take.

Arguably sarms are better for health if you exclude the shit ones like s4, through there isn't much long term research on them so they are also risky.

>>42508238
Test is best.

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>>42508270
Noooo for these reasons

I don't want to feel like a fraud to my self

I know you don't get huge right away but
I don't want to use them and look like I use juice

Most of all
I'm scared of the sides I've seen happen to some of my friends.

I've got two younger friends who are 22-23.and they look about 30 now.

ones probably due to water retention but the other guy just seems to have noticeable facial structure changes.He used to be a handsome chap but juice made him ugly.and his hair has been receding a lot lately.

Also don't want to get addicted.Which would easily be done with me because once you go off it you lose some gains then you realise how much harder it is to gain with juice.Could easily see my fucked up personality thinking that way

>>42508139
no, retard

>>42508231
you still with black slave?

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>>42508238
Also what about ostraine any good

And off topic but what about high dose of bccas throughout the day on top of all your food ?

Why would anyone choose anything but exemestane as AI? Seriously, why?

>>42508418
letro is a lot stronger.

I use 25mg of asin ed on trest, it's almost more expensive than the trest is. letro would reduce the cost by like ten times

just too lazy to get some

>>42508429
Letro crashes your levels way too much, though.

>>42508437
absolute nonsense, it's dose dependent just like you could crash your levels completely on asin also

>>42508458
Letro is a non-suicidal AI, all it does is bind any estrogen you convert directly on your aromatase enzyme.

The problem with binding AI’s is that once you cease use, all of the estrogen that had accumulated when you were using that AI suddenly gets released – this process is called "estrogen rebound" and has catastrophic consequences (like gyno).

That doesn't happen with exemestane, though.

>>42508502
that's not how it works, moron

if that was true, non suicidal AIs would just be SERMs. they still take care of the estrogen problem, the estro rebound is nowhere as important as people make it out to be, or else you would never be able to stop using adex or letro. this also has nothing to do with my post or >>42508437 sayhing it "crashes levels way too much"

fucking reddit tier copypasting

>>42508525
>denial
The estrogen rebound is a fact, though. And the tens of men who have developed gyno after their badly done PCT (like you?), are proof of it.
Also,
>reddit spacing
You've to go back.

Has anyone else been affected by the Rich Piana news? I've stopped my routine since hearing and I think I'm just going to quit.

B+C for years but all of a sudden I've realized it's time to stop.

>>42508569
You're an idiot if you're serious.

What kind of cycles do +300 lbs bodybuilders like Craig Golias and Big Ramy run? I've read that people big like them run at least 2 or 3 mg of Test E, combined with Deca, Dbol, etc.

>>42508585
Serious. I don't really give a shit about Piana but it was a reminder of the risks involved.

>>42508569
It's a good idea. Coming off after a long time, makes you realize how delusional you've been all this time on. Afterwards you can actually tackle your problems instead of getting a bigger biceps.

The first months will actually be taxing, you will feel off. (That's what quitting an addiction feels like.)

Good luck.

>>42508553
show me one piece of evidence for this estro rebound. just one. not internet broscience, I want a study. please.

let me actually explain how it works: It binds to aromatase, the enzyme that creates e2 from test. the "estrogen rebound" doesn't happen because it binds to aromatase, the estrogen isn't even created in the first fucking place because aromatase is inactive. if you want to dispute this, show me a study that shows that e2 is still created from a bound aromatase enzyme.

extra reading: google aromatase, then google anastrozole, then end your pathetic life

>>42508617
Do you have any good resources saved that I can read? It was kind of a spur of the moment decision even if motivation has been waning for the last 6 months.

>>42508635
Do the experiences of many men who took aromatase binders like letro during their PCTs not serve as evidence? Because if you actually think so, then you should kill yourself in the most painful way you can afford.

>>42508661
no actually, it doesn't. I want science, not your broscience regurgitated from old steroids forums from 2001. I have science backing me, you have retarded apes who misunderstand what suicide inhibition means

>>42508606

I've heard their cycles sum up to around 2-3g, yeah. I think Yates talked about it in his spot on the Joe Rogan podcast recently. It was something like a gram of test with some deca and an oral thrown in.

>>42508656
I quit after being 2 1/2 years on. Quitted without a real pct and recovered (was quite stressing). I just used letro, because it was the only thing available to me. There is not much to read on this subject. There are several withdrawal symptoms: I experienced auditory hallucinations and became temporary very mild shizophrenic (stressing af)

Just be aware that you are not as awesome as the drugs make you believe. Coming to grips with this normal mind state can be quite intimidating at first. It's actually not as easy as people that are abusing steroids make it out to be.

I feel much better with myself now compared to the time when I decided to hop on.

>>42508707
Taking into account that using AIs for body building is illegal, you must a fucking retard that should kill himself if you think there could be reliable published examples of AIs used in cycles.

>>42508725
Addition: You will realize how expensive steroids are after you've quit. All of the sudden you got so much money to spent on clothes and stuff. In theory it's cheap, but let's be honest, who runs just a bit of test..

>>42508731
........

you realize docs prescribe AI for TRT also, right? and AIs aren't used exclusively for steroid cycles? and there are studies done on them?

you misunderstood what the suicidal part refers to, basically. it's suicidal w/r/t the aromatase enzyme, not fucking estrogen. it's not "trapped in your body" waiting to fucking explode out, because again, it's not a SERM. you're so fucking stupid and I hate people like you who just repeat garbage they read once. do some fucking research

>>42508724
Do you also know how much calories and protein they eat? The sticky's rule of thumb for bulking is to multiply your bodyweight by 18. So 300 * 18 is 5400. But since they probably work out 6 days a week, I guess they have to eat 7000-8000 calories a day? And 1 gram of protein per lb of bodyweight?

>>42508755
>there are studies done on them
Do you have any links to back up such statement?

>>42508764
go to pubmed, search anastrozole, exemestane, letrozole... again, any study is a valid study. none of this applies only to steroid cycles, you have an aromatase enzyme regardless of steroid usage or not.

>>42508610
Then you didn't properly consider the risks beforehand.

Is it even known if it was steroids that's causing his health problems?

>>42508788
>just search the AIs in pubmed
And only studies about their use and effect against breast cancer show up :^)

3 weeks on 50mg dbol ed so far (will use it for 5 weeks) before test kicks.

12kg increase in bw.

Bench press and OHP are both up 30%.

Is this the expected strength progression from dbol? I feel like my body weight increase is a bit high, but my face is not bloated and estrogen is under control with zero sides.

>>42508812
what if you added testosterone to your search terms? or read the second half of >>42508788?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27792869

>>42508839
>in older men
Opinion disregarded.

>>42508848
this is gonna be my last post until you can counter any of the arguments I've made or show a basic understanding of suicidal vs non-suicidal that doesn't come from copypasting meso shit that was then copypasted to reddit

you are wrong. you are part of the people who keep regurgitating wrong shit and tricking other people into believing what you said in an endless cycle of misinformation. you are the problem. you have no argument because you didn't actually look into any of this, and now you're going to go all "I was just pretending to be retarded"

>>42508810
>Then you didn't properly consider the risks beforehand.
I knew the risks. I was reckless and obsessed with lifting. Shit changes. Once I achieved my goals I realized they were basically meaningless in the big picture. My health is more important to me now.

Also you're in denial if you think roids didn't contribute.

>>42508829
>12kg increase in bw.

boy

any stretch marks?

>>42508887
I look a lot bigger, but it's not that extreme.

>>42508350

Yep.

>>42508874
Could you even post any study that shows non-suicidal AIs having little to no estrogen rebound?

>>42508757

Most of the pros eat really high protein, like two grams per pound of bodyweight. I'm not sure about total calories, but I'm sure it's a lot.

>>42509094
Could you take 30 seconds to teach yourself the relationship between androgens, estrogens, aromatase and aromatase inhibitors?

ugh yesss bimbo finally ended up with vander

>>42508882
We know nothing about the situation.

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how low is my E2?

my e2 has been high and I took .5mg of letro and my estro hasn't even crashed wtf? still feel high e2

>>42510179
AIs don't do anything about estrogen already in your body, they prevent new estrogens from being made. Gotta wait for e2 to lower naturally.

>>42507637
week 4 of test prop ed and i can't wait for it to end, daily injections are fucking horrible

>>42510161
these are natty bloods btw, doc thinks my E2 is low

>>42510256
I don't mind them. Easier to remember when to inject when it's every day.

>>42510343
fuck you just reminded me I need to inject

>>42510352
every morning

>>42510305
>these are natty bloods.
No shit, anyone with half a brain can tell. Estrogen is on the low side but not crashed, if you're asymptomatic don't worry about it.

>>42510366
>half a brain
>/fit/
anyway, I have a shit ton of low e2 symptoms with joint pain being the biggest. how long until TRT helps? starting at 150mg/wk.

>>42510256
It's not that bad assuming that you're properly rotating injection sites
(eg delts, chest, glutes, upper quads, lower quads, lats, repeat)

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Finally getting back on gear this week

Diet is great, training is great

YEAR OF KAHUNA IS RESUMING

>>42510343
just so sore all the time

>>42510501
dude wash your mirror

also you forfeited year of kahuna already, try again in 2018

>>42510447
never pinned chest or lats, i'm doing right delt left delt upper left quad upper right quad delts again then lower quads. glutes are a bust i just cant seem to get it right

>>42510409
Could be anything from a few days to a few weeks, it depends on a lot of factors. I would guess a week or two.

>>42510521
Glutes are super easy to pin.

>>42510567
yeah with the right size needles. i have 1", hardly long enough

>>42510600
how obese are you

>>42510600
I've pinned glutes with 1/2 inch lol. Admittedly that lead to subq leaks like half the time so I wouldn't recommend it.

>>42510615
not
>>42510634
got leaks with one inch and there was a hard red painful lump for almost a week

>>42510600
>can't pin glutes with 1"

You're obese as fuck

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this has probably been asked a thousand times but

as someone who's interested in frauding one day when I've reached my natty limit, what's roiding like? What does the first dose feel like? Are there actually mood swings? What are the health concerns? What are the differences between all the different types of roids like Tren, D-bol, and test?

>>42511175
Read the OP

Age 18 so I'm not planning on taking steroids
Thoughts on SARMs though? What kind of effects would they have on me?

>>42508110
funnily enough supermarket made perfect sense
>>42510501
decent trip has returned. Did you end up going sdrol and test?

My psych meds have changed and im frankly scared. I fucking hate it when I have to change

>>42510221
how long does it take for existing estro to leave the body?

>>42510501
>roiding for this
also lol at your shitty skin,
bodybuilders when will they learn

>>42508094

testosterone undecanoate (aveed/nebido) has a halflife of 2+ weeks, but i am doubtful that is what you are actually on because it is very expensive.

if you are on test c or e, it has a halflife of 3.5-4.5 days. one injection of that every 12 days is going to be a mini rollercoaster every week. its alot simpler to just take the bottle home and do a subq injection everyday or EOD. cant imagine having to go get an injection every couple weeks at the doctors office. sounds like a fucking pain. i would try and get a rx for the bottle itself and learn to pin.

>>42508238
it will promote insulin resistance just like HGH will

>>42508755
lol now you know how i feel when i come in here

aight you dumb fucks this is the cycle ive settled on and im going to get bigger stronger faster and more jacked and tan than u can believe

100mg test c / 100mg npp / 200mg tren e / 400mg dhb / 400 primo (taken over 10 days, not 7)

4.5iu norditropin per day split up in two shots or possibly IV the whole thing at once post workout

ghrp2/mod grf saturation shot before bed and upon waking

gonna push it to 20 weeks

my cruise will be just test and npp 100mg/75mg and a single peptide shot

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>>42507346
>bane after being held back several years, still in middle school

>>42507637
Post before and current pics please. I'm about to hop on the same cycle

>>42506688
Fucking hell, you're lucky breh.

>>42510501
You don't look much different then when you were on gear, good job for maintaining

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>gym is closed due to holiday

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This Yohimbine is going to be the death of me..

>>42512424
Buy a day pass for another gym?

>>42512508
What's happening?

I am currently week 2 on albuterol, pretty awesome shit, but sometimes it doesn't feel good for my heart.

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>tren/test/mast 700/350/350
>bf not changing
>weight stuck at 214lbs @ 6'4
>amazing pump when liftan
>come home and look like shit again
>starving because don't know hot to cut cals anymore than already
>egg whites, beef mince and rice, chicken and broccoli
>3 meals a day coming in at about 1800-1900
>seriously thinkin about replacing meals with protein shakes
>cardio 45 minutes a day
>only have abs in certain light so don't really have abs at all

Where's the conditioning I was promised?
Fuck tren /fit/, I'm gonna start bulkin end of this month.
I'm just gonna accept I'm that I'm not one of you skinny ghouls that's always had it easy your whole life

>>42512727
Also don't wanna post any pics cause I'm a fake natty and dont wanna get

>roiding for this

>>42512678
My stomach is turning upside down and while I feel like I've got tons of energy I feel like I'm depleted as fuck, which I guess means that I'm burning tons of energy.

>>42512731
You'll get >roiding for this at any look, even if you look like Yates you'll get plenty >roiding for this

>>42512727
Cut all the carbs and try keto with 1/2 high carb days.

Cardio is HITT?

How long are you currently doing this regime? You stagnate because your body is getting used to it, try to switch things.

>>42512735
Any negative side effects? Btw did you get it at the same source?


>>42512739
I never get them.

>>42512777
Same source from HCL.
Works fine no real sides asside from this weird ass waves of feeling depleted yet ready to explode with energy.

Also you should post some new pictures soon :^)

>>42512809
Sounds good to me, might try it myself then. Maybe during off periods from albuterol.

>Also you should post some new pictures soon :^)
I want to, but every time i make a picture i look like total shit. Make me depressed af.

Fucking phone makes me looks skinny af

>>42508238
Great for bulking

getting gear for 2nd cycle this afternoon. Pinning this evening and planning to leave humanity behind.

no but really,
starting 150mg test-e and 250mg tren-e this afternoon.
Doing this cycle to gain some muscle and shed some fat. now about 15% bodyfat, looking to get to 12 or even lower.

>>42512870
Just post damnit.
I post shit pictures of myself.

Even if your pics are shit you'd still look bigger then 95% of fit.

Does anybody know what cycles the pros are on?

How much did they use in the golden age?

and do you have legit information?

>>42508635
>anastrozole binds to aromatase temporarily
>all aromatase is still there waiting for dat joocy test to devour
>free test goes way up due to reduced aromatization
>then the anastrozole is cleared from your system pretty quickly
>you now have more free testosterone to convert to estrogen

It's pretty simple really.

Exemestane doesn't spike like this because the aromatase slowly comes back up over several days.
It's the spike that causes the shitty high e2 effects.

>>42512985
I hope you never get bodydysformia. I got it pretty worse breh and it feels it s getting worse and worse

>>42513114
>I hope you never get bodydysformia.
Oh boy you have no idea how badly its developing... checking myself at every mirror and being displeased with what I see every damn time.
I'm tiny, I'm small and the worst part is that thanks to manletism I could be 150kg pure muscle and still be dwarved by a lanky with some decent size on him.

>>42512986
>cycle
>pro
lmao

multiple grams of gear a week combined with hgh and insulin and orals

>>42508231
Fuck I hoped you would have killed yourself by now you faggot.

>>42511523
I'm supposed to inject once a week. I think doing it at home is an option but at first they require the first few there so they know you won't fuck up. Also dunno if it matters but these were IM not subq. The HCG is subq

>>42513131
>thanks to manletism I could be 150kg pure muscle and still be dwarved by a lanky with some decent size on him.

The solution is simple. Leave lank central and find a place that has only manlets.

>>42512727
>214lbs @ 6'4
You forgot to build muscle first buddy

>>42513294
I heard China isn't that bad.
I'd go Thailand for the easy pharma roids.

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Why does prop hurt so much

what should my test levels be around at a gram of test e/week?

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>>42513774
Because u a bitch

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>>42513801

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>>42513817

My 1/2" 26g arrive tomorrow. Really not looking forward to trying quad pins again.

>>42512870
How do you take albuterol?

Do I just steal my gfs inhaler?

>>42513131
There is no end, but fuck i am jelly that you got your own private doctor. Fucking bloods cost 89 euro minimum, that's why i delay that shit all the time.

Will delay probably until start next blast. Did you ever try adrol? thinking about doing it instead of dbol.

>>42513936
Pills.

>>42513936
Inhaler dosage: 100mcg
Effective albuterol dosage for fat loss: up to 16mg 3 times per day.

>>42514149
Mast you should make sure you're getting enough potassium in your diet (banana tomato etc). Alb directly works on the kidneys increasing potassium loss, after a few days to a week of being on you'll get muscle cramps if your potassium gets low.

I freaking love the chest pump I get from dbol. It only takes a set or two and my chest is pumped up and massively increased in size, such a great feeling. I can see why so many people love dbol.

>>42514193
I am taking 1 gram of taurine each day, which seems to work fine. I have had no cramps till this day.

Thank you for the input.

>>42514149
I skip the gyno-in-a-pill dbol, rather have tbol.

All in all Var is my best oral so far, but I can't say I've tried many.

>>42514254
Allright no probs

is it possible to become anemic from low testosterone, since adequate levels produce more hemoglobin? my CBC bloods have been fucked for a while and my T is at 300-450. 26 years old. doctors don't know shit, either.

how do you draw from an ampule properly?

So mk677 any one use it ??

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>first cycle bulk
>don't feel like lifting
>don't feel like eating

>>42513921
you should pin with a 12 gauge

>>42514788
do you just post anonymously until you can shit on crusader or do you just exclusively post to shit on crusader?

>>42511175
Honestly, steroids are pretty underwhelming all things considered. The psychological effect of injecting something makes you want it to have an acute effect but it really doesnt work like that. It's slow, gradual, and not the surge of adrenaline that many expect. This is especially true if you're doing a reasonably dosed long ester. Like most side effects don't even develop until 4-8 weeks of you putting this shit in your body. It takes time.

How long will test-e stay good in a syringe? If i take it from the vial and put it in a syringe can i pin it after 2 weeks or will it spoil?

>>42514783
You getting the same test flu as me?

>2 weeks into 500mg/w cycle and feel like shit everyday, with hot flashes and crazy pip in hips

>>42514804
Recently its just been shitting on him, I never take the name off though.

Are there some steroids that promote fast twitch muscle fibers?

>>42514835
>first cycle
>better quadruple test levels

Ladies and gentleman, welcome to reddit

>>42509507

you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

this guy>>42513038 is spot on; it's basic physiology. There is also probably upregulation of aromatase to fuck shit up even more. It probly hasn't been rigorously proven though, I'll give you this one, but there's tons of anecdotal evidence to back up the hypothesis

>>42514829
there isn't much difference between a vial and a syringe my dude. it all depends on how you store the syringe

>>42511049
but i'm not though..

>>42514518
I've used it for six months, made me drowsy as fuck, bloated, and insomnia


Upon discontinuation, it gave me anxiolytic/SSRI-like symptoms of withdrawl. My shit might have been cut with Xanax or something. Be careful my dude

>>42507346
Only thing stopping me from fraud is that I ONCE HAD alopecia and some of my uncles are bald.

I have a great set of hair and I remember when alopecia came about. I was depressed for a long time.

My hair is important to me so what do you boys reckon I do? I'm 24.

>>42515130
i have shit tier hair genetics and and i ran high doses of test for an entire year. only since recently it has been affecting my hair.

So if you have a full head of hair, doing a simple 16 week cycle of 500 test will not do you any harm

bros, facial hair is fucking cheating if you have shit tier facial aesthetics.

no joke, it's bumped me up at least 2 points because it perfectly hides my weak jaw and even helps a little bit with my imperfect skin. I don't know why I waited so goddamn long

jawlets represent

>>42514518
Yep, absolutely great on a bulk

>>42515308
The only time your jaw is actually fucked up is because you let it end up that way. Every human should have abnormal jaw line unless you were born defective.

Try learning the correct way to rest your lower jaw and tongue. It's likely that your face looks like shot cause you facilitated AWFUL facial posture but it's not your fault no one says this ever in life. Have faith, it can be fixed. Using a pakatora (some jap tool to correct people who have a stroke and their face gets fucked up) and forcing your jaw to rest where it should every time. In a few years you will have a chiseled jaw line

>>42515485
No human should have *

>>42515485
nah I'm pretty sure it's fucked, like my teeth don't even line up when I close my mouth. such is life

>>42515485
>>42515631
also I'm pretty sure pakatora isn't a real thing because nothing comes up on Google

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>>42507346
I'm 85kg 5ft11 15% bodyfat running TRT dose and 400mg Tren/week. I eat ~300g protein, 100g carbs, 20g fats. PPL so 6 days/week. I'm making strength gains despite cutting but just wondering if I would be better off bulking?? I'm 'weak' by most standards, a little over 1/2/3/4, and just wanna get lean. If I eat above maintenance on Tren will I lose bf%? Like, will the increase in muscle be greater than the increase in fat, so the overall % will be lower? Or should I just keep doing what I'm doing since I'm still gaining some strength on cutting amounts of calories?

>>42514474
I had pretty much exactly those T levels natty and didn't have RBC problems

maybe genetics? I was also very active with cardio, you could try that

>>42512986
a few days ago on r/steroids someone posted Milos' training log which included sterons

it was insane, he had 1000g carbs / day with 30g fats, along with 6-8 sterons+GH

>>42515887
Get us a link nigga

>>42510256
Why didn't you EOD?

>>42516111
because the terminal half life of prop is a day

I'm gonna pin 100ml/1g of test p EOD for 6 to 8 weeks haven't decided yet. Guna use adex along side it for ai and just pct of nolva. Does this seem enough??

Still debating about using HCG but it's just added complications.

>>42516280
>100ml/1g
lmao

yeah you know what you're doing I can tell

>>42516148
Most places I've read suggest EOD, ed seems like a lot

>>42516295
>use ester you need to inject every day
>complain that pinning ed is too much
then maybe don't use prop

steroidcalc.com

>>42515631
>>42515651
https://www.liptrainer.com

You need braces if your teeth are REALLY BAD but the truth is your teeth are not use to the resting position you just tried to put them in. The bottom teeth should be slightly behind the front teeth (lower jaw slight behind upper) if it feels awkward that's the proof you have the wrong posture currently. It will only take a week to make this feel natural. It's like getting a filling and closing your mouth, you notice it's there but only for a few days.

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>>42516410
Don't make the mistake of thinking your teeth should be BEHIND YOUR FRONT TEETH. They should touch in a way but never make tooth on tooth contact. Bottom jaw front teeth should be touching the back of your front teeth. On top of this your tongue must be resting against your front teeth and the roof of your mouth. If you find that you cannot breath while in this position it is absolute proof you have bad posture as this is the natural way to breath, you conditioned your self over time to use your mouth ( could occur when you got sick for a long time and actively chose to breath through your mouth, creating a permeant bad habit and awful damage to your face over time.

Here's my neck. I post often on fit. This is about a year of work from jawlet mode. Blk n white so you can see my neck muscles supporting my lower jaw correctly.

>>42515853
Pls answer

>>42516453
ive been mewing for like 10 months now, i noticed some changes, my teeth align differently now, my upper mouth is wider, meaning my tongue has more room to rest on.

But im still a fucking jawlet, my chin is still recessed, even tho i saw it first hand how that shit actually changes your face/teeth.

>>42509651
came here to post this

>>42516916
such a good shot too

>>42508392
Recently got back into lifting and after a few months decided to do an 8 week run of 30mg Ostarine, 30mg Cardarine and 15mg RAD140 and no real sterons (bc I'm a pussy idk).

My bench went from 165 for reps to 225, squat from 275 to 325, and deadlift from 295 to 405.

Some of this can be attributed to noob gains but SARMs are pretty fucking solid for strength. Just be consistent with your dosing and don't expect results until about 2-3 weeks in, except Cardarine, which kicks in immediately.

>tfw low as fuck test
>tfw live in a leftist faggot country so cant jump on TRT because I'm not "out of the normal zone"

how would a SERM like clomid/nolva work together with ai just to get my test levels into the upper range? I've heard doctors often prescribe clomid in HRT instead of test nowadays

>>42517517
not very well. first, clomid is a fucking awful drug and second, it's gonna bump you up 100-200ng/dl

honestly even if clomid could get me from 200ng/dl to 1200 I'd pick being a low test faggot over being on clomid forever, hands down.

>>42517549
what about nolva? or maybe AI only, like aromasin (which doesn't cause estrogen rebound).

>>42517622
none of them is gonna get you much more than 200ish ng/dl.

>>42517622
Some people use aromasin to get a boost in natty test, but it only works under specific circumstances.

If your LH and FSH are low to normal with normal to high e2 you could try it.

>>42508569
>>42508610

Steroids aside, Please look at rich's lifestyle. Shit food all the time, constantly overeating, excess and extreme steroid beyond normal or recommended range, probable drug use. I like rich but he hasn't looked healthy in over 2-3 years.

Understand that while steroids are unhealthy. theyre not the worst thing you can do to your body, and wont be the last thing. calculate your risks, if living a long healthy life is that important to you you should have never taken gear in the first place.

>>42511259
dont use them. it's a waste of time and money for marginal gains. Correct dosage with CORRECT pct is pretty safe vs the unknown long term damage sarms may do to you. Just skip to the real deal

>>42516728
Mewing is not enough, you need to perform exercise for the muscles

I keep saying I'm going to make a thread and never do it. Tonight I'll make a super thread with a copy and paste OP.

>>42514829
it will degrade the rubber stopper and plastic of the syringe slowly and you will be injecting that shit

>>42517714
Steroids + gh + ben & jerry's/pizza, opiates and adderall

Look a CT fletcher; he was eating only mcdonalds every fucking day for twenties years while using probably a shit load of steroids on top of it and his heart made it to almost 60. Damn his genetics are insane.

>>42517835
well im reguarly clenching my jaws and always keeping them shut too.

doesnt make any sense tho, working my jaw muscles would only result in upward growth, not forward growth, which is what i need.

I bet you already had a nice jaw and you just dropped bodyfat.

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>>42516453
lmao your lips look pursed, come give papi a kiss bby

>>42517714
If someone is going to take the king of yolo-dosing roids (his motto was literally 'whatever it takes) overdosing on coke and having a heart attack as some kind of warning to stop their babby cycle, they probably aren't smart enough to be doing roids in the first place

>>42518035
Yes they will.
The hate boner people have for gear will increase and fake natty's and youtube natty's are going to get fucked.

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>>42518058
I don't disagree with you that people are that stupid, I just think it's fucking comical. It's like when someone finds out I roid and I tell them I'm on 500 mg / wk of test, and to get Regan Grimes big I'd be doing probably 3 times that plus a fuckload of other compounds. Roids aren't an all or nothing thing, but good luck convincing normies of that.

Will shooting testosterone cause any hair loss?

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>>42518113
>being this fucking useless

>>42518098
>500 mg / wk of test
That's a fair amount of gear to be honest.
Like..a shit ton.

If you were talking small microdoses or just above trt amounts that can easily be laid off of then sure.

But you're in permanent endocrine system damage territory.

>>42518146
lmao yeah "a shit ton", meanwhile pros are on 10 to 20 times that total, with compounds much harsher than test

about to do my first cycle for 10 weeks of Test E with 500mg a week. What can I expect bros?

>>42518146
If you get fucked by 500mg of test, you may as well kill yourself as you have dogshit genetics and should not be alive in the first plasce.

>>42518146
lol

>>42518146
lmao fuck off 500 mg is not a shit ton of gear you autist, have you ever actually run a cycle?

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>>42518205
>If you get fucked by 500mg of test, you may as well kill yourself as you have dogshit genetics and should not be alive in the first plasce.

>>42518186
>10 weeks
complete disappointment

>>42515866
you on TRT now? those levels are abysmal.

>>42518273
my bad i meant 14 weeks

>>42518273
Woops meant 16 weeks

>>42518290
do 16 weeks.

dont expect too much. 500 test is alot, but 16 weeks isnt. Muscle take time to develope, even on gear.

>>42518325
sorry meant 24 weeks

>>42518327
If he kickstarts it with an oral, he can expect some pretty decent gains overall.

>>42518342
Actually 48 weeks mb

>>42518376
what i meant was 5g/week till i die

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>Thoughts on mk677 ?

>>42518405
Pardon meant to say 25ml each week how much pip will I get

>>42518421
>calorie cycling
holy shit this is dumb

Why can't I run hcg to counter my peanuts and cruise on test my entire life

>>42518580
But you can.

>>42518580
literally nobody gives a shit about smaller testicles

>>42518612
Then its settled I guess. Why arnt more people doing this, is it actually retarded?

>>42518617
I care about my money shots, and they're like puffs of dust at this point.

>>42507346
he's a big fucking middle schooler (4 u)

>>42518656
Plenty of people on TRT do it, even doctor prescribed.
Just use a modest dose and not like 3000 units per week.

Most people on test for performance goals don't really give a fuck about shrunken nuts, and I guess storing the HCG makes it not worth it for some people, since it can be a hassle.

>>42518656
Hcg is as expensive as test, you're essentially doubling your costs for nothing.

Besides, if you want to have kids in the future you should go on pct and take some time off.

>>42518724
HCG is useful to bring other hormones back up, shit like pregnenolone and such.
Could be worth it for some people.

>>42518185
Pros also have the fucking lifespans of houseflys.
What's your point?

>>42518205
If you fucking needed test to get swole and fit in the first place, then you already have shit genes stupid.
If you need half a fucking gram or more to get swole then you're a genetic dead end.

>>42518214
Okay.

>>42518239
No. But I do know that most gear users back in the golden age didn't use THAT much gear and they had great results.

>>42518802
>If you fucking needed test to get swole and fit in the first place, then you already have shit genes stupid.

Because we all know how huge natties get... Even with elite genetics, you're not going to get huge as a natty, unless you stay at a higher body fat. But you'll never have that huge and shredded 4-8% body fat physique.

>>42518656
Desensitizes your luedig over time

>>42519190
Only if you do retarded meme doses.

Otherwise your shit would desensitize to LH just the same.

>>42519281
>retarded meme doses
Where do you think we are?

>>42519402
You don't gain anything from using retarded meme doses of HCG. The only thing you gain is negative side effects.

>>42519457
Big giant balls

Anything I can take for costochondritis? I've been given naproxen and I am going to take a week or two off. bp500?

>>42519795
costochondritis is hell, I have been dealing with it for a year now. one of the reasons why I'm on TRT is because of all the shitty joint pain I've been dealing with.

I've tried BPC-157 injections into the sternum with 0 success before getting in TRT and finding out my E2 is naturally low.

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> when President Trump continues to do exactly what you'd do as President, beyond belief, again and again
> all his picks are people I'd pick
> he calls out the AntiFa and BlackLivesMatter as violent, illegal, and equally to blame for the South Carolina incident

I love this man.

Got my strength at a point I'm comfortable with and ready to start cutting. I need to lose 40lbs but I don't want to lose my strength since I've finally achieved 1/2/3/4 . Can roids help me lose the weight and keep the muscle?

>>42520163
lmao

>>42519987
>equally to blame

Literally no violence would have happened if the rally had been allowed and the rally participants protected from Antifa/BLM.

>>42520163
Are you retarded?

>>42518656

For some reason HCG is really expensive, and if you need an AI the monthly costs are prohibitive

>>42520212
fuck u niga post pics and square up

>>42519959
Sucks to hear mate. Sure it wasn't bunk peps?
I was thinking of getting bpc-157, would only cost me about £30 for 2 months worth to try. Willing to try anything at this point. I can't do much bench work, if at all :(

>>42520247
got it from a reputable source, it didn't help at all. do you get clicking from your sternum as well? all my joints subluxate and pop, that if it were just the costochondritis it'd be tolerable, but I'm skelly jelly for now until I reach homeostatic from the TRT.

you on anything? deca is supposed to be good for the joints if you haven't tried to see if your e2 is low.

>>42520163
cut natty then bulk on roids, you'll be much stronger

>>42520289
I don't at the moment, naproxen has taken the pain and popping down quite a lot. I'm on trt myself (non roid related, was put on mid teens).

Don't want to use deca as it will just mask the pain/problem and i would think its fixed and probably fuck it up even more

>>42520340
are you taking an AI? that may exacerbate any joint issues. I'm assuming that you're from the UK, do you need to take an AI with Sustanon or whatever ester you're taking monthly for TRT?

for some momentary relief, if you've got a foam roller, place it directly behind your sternum and grab the back of your head with your hands and pull forward while sticking out your chest. you'll be able work out the kink if you do this correctly.

How do I heat test prop before an injection?

>>42520459
put it inside ur butt

>>42520475

Thanks will give that a go

>>42520459
you put the bottom of the vial into a warm bath of water. just make sure not to submerge it

>>42520446
I take about 1/6th tablet of adex every 3 days which keeps my e2 levels in the middle of the range as I aromatize even with low bf.

I'll keep that in mind and give that a go tomorrow

Currently on week 2 of my tren replacement therapy

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>>42520205

No kidding, but I'll take 'equally to blame' as that's all we'll get. Hell, this asshole James Fields is likely working for them. Runs people over at 23 MPH. Obviously a terrorist.

But you see this nonsense with all so-called terrorism. They target the most inane shit. If I ever go on a suicide run like that I assure you the death count will be 100+. Hell, it's not hard to disable a railroad crossing or switch and get away with it.

If they were actually terrorists they'd wait for a rainy season and crash a plane into New Orleans power plants.

>>42520218
>HCG is really expensive
It isn't, though.

Why do people pretend quad PIP is so bad? I am honestly starting to think that believing absolutely nothing on the internet is the best approach to steroids.

>>42520748
You wouldn't be a very good terrorist.

Terrorists usually have an intended target. If you just kill indiscrimately, you're just a nut job.

>>42521094
You're thinking of assassination, not terrorism in general m8

>>42521144
I can't name a single terror incident where there hasn't been an intended target.

>>42521094
Terrorists are zealous nutjobs. I can see why you'd be willfully ignorant of that however.

>>42521094

That's not what terrorist means, m8.

whats a solid dose for DHB? been on just test and dbol for coming up on 8 weeks now i wanna do test and dhb for 8 -12 weeks

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>>42507389
Why are nips so cute?

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>>42518035
>yolo-dosing roids (his motto was literally 'whatever it takes) overdosing on coke and having a heart attack

Confirmed that pianoman was taking coke? I'm falling back into the bad habit of using coke on cycle (babby's first 500). I'm being responsible though - never pwo like I used to (terrible idea if anyone's thinking about it) and no more than 2-3 bumps a day. Although this weekend was an exception.

I lose interest after about week or so but I want to keep telling myself that I'm not fucking myself over when I do get into it occasionally.

>>42508231

Crack the preworkout or crack the actual crack? Sounds comfy (srs)

>>42508280

Gotta love the mora knife

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>>42507346
>Pic

>>42512424

What holiday???

Have an uncapped vial of NPP sitting around. Do I just take it with the tren?

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>>42510517
I live in a sober house with a bunch of crackheads. All things considered the mirror is pretty clean.
And year of Kahuna is whenever I say it is, if you don't like it get tf off my blog!!!!!

>>42511336
Ordered sdrol, test, and tren.
Gonna do 20 sdrol, 250 test, 600 tren. Probably up Test and add deca when I have more money. Had my car get repod and some other whack shit but I got a new (old) truck thanks to gf. Money situation going well now.

>>42511397
Missed you too daddy-o

>>42512301
Thanks bud. Kept diet and training better than ever. Working at a gym helps. Post cb.

Alright need ideas on your favorite cheat meals. I am on 8ius of hgh and 860 tren e, so I am down for some american tier ass-stuffing

What are some bodybuilding-famous shit foods? Like five guys, pizza, krispy kreme, ice cream seem to be the buzz around here

>>42522824
chicken and broccoli with some type of sauce

>>42522940
implying i did not just stop cutting on only chicken broccoli tomatos and hotsauce

>>42522277
>sober house

Y-you're not in Orange County....are you?

>>42522277
you look like shit for how long you have been on gear and all the shit you have used, what the fuck, not even joking you are worse than random natties

500mg/week was kinda intense, is there anything wrong with running 250-300mg/week test?

>>42523283
Fucks your natural test levels without giving you much benefit. I'd try 400 if you think 500 is too high.

>>42523283
You could run that much test with some orals thrown in. Easy to drop if it's too much.

>>42518656
>>42518724
Yeah it causes desensitization, even at lower doses as long as you take it frequently enough... e.g. during an indefinitive cruise.

To negate most of it you should either split in short cycles of a few weeks on 2 weeks off or something. Or single dose with intervals exceeding 5 days. Of course you want to use reasonable doses of around 200IU.

>>42517761
Would SARMs help me progress towards my natty peak tho?
I don't want to go beyond that at all but reaching natty peak sounds perfectly fine to me desu.

>>42523443
By that logic you could just use steroids to do the same thing.

>>42523077
Nah I'm in New York by Canada. Will be moving west in the next few months though. Cali friends?

>>42523082
You mad that 3 months ago I was in the hospital with sepsis and I'm STILL bigger than you? That must be the worst!

>>42523584
Cali is sweet. Been doing SL in OC for a year and a half now. Beautiful women and beautiful weather. 2 weeks back on test with 60 off heroin. Feeling good bro.

>>42523584
yes you and your amorphous no-definition body with its 14 inch arms are bigger than me

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I have a conundrum. About a year ago I ended up in the hospital with a sterile abscess anywho the cunt nurse put it was due to steroids in my medical file. It was steroid related but I never admitted to steroid use in the hospital.

Fast forwarded to now. I just accepted a employment offer for a kick ass job that includes full health, dental, and vision insurance.
HIPPA and Google arent being a whole lot of help but from what I gather my new employer would be able to see my medical records if I got the insurance.

So what do? Opt out of the company insurance or risk my employer finding out Im a fraud?

>>42523669
Good shit senpai, gf taking a job out there soon so we moving. 100 days off dope here and should be back on gear in a few days.

>>42523716
Yowzers bubs! I'm hearing a lot of talking and not a lot of posting your bod! Looks like Kahuna wins again! Sorry small fry!

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Ok guys, this isn't exacly /fraud/ question but you seem more competent in this thread than most of those memers in the rest of the board.

Recently I bought ECA to boost up my cutting and to speed up my metabolism before my first cycle that will start in like 3-4 months.

The thing is that the suggested dosage is 2, sometimes even 3 pills / day, (doses are 30/250/150) but at the moment I feel the rush even after a single pill, and ever since I've started taking them I have trobule sleeping. Yesterday I took 1 and gone to the gym around 2 PM, yet still was unable to sleep for like half of the night.

I don't think its the caffeine, since I've used to drink 1-2 of those daily, so I think my body has some tolerance.

Am I doing something wrong?

>>42524277
Take them as a suppository

>>42523993
Don't have any cb, i am too afraid to make pictures.


>>42524277
When i took ECA 30/300/150 in the morning i had no trouble with sleeping.

3 pills are way too crazy. I only took one pill in the morning that was it.

Look up the half life and calculate what suits you best.

>>42523408
What about 250 Test E and 300 Tren E? p/w.

>>42524387
Cmon bb make some pics for us.
Dont make us doubt you.

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>>42524529
Don't look much different than other pics, maybe a bit more back, calve and leg mass.

>>42524387
thanks, I guess Ill take 1 pill right after breakfast and I shall see how it goes.

>>42524750
Jason Genova looks better eerlijk gezegd

>>42524750
Looking small brah

Joking, looking joooooocy senpai

>>42514149
Bloods cost only 25 euro in Belgium and that is with added test & estrogen checkup.

Started on Sust250 4 days ago (2 pins in) but my AI hasn't come in yet. I feel like my nips are more sensitive but I'm hoping I'm just paranoid. Surely I wouldn't notice gyno symptoms after only 4 days....r-right?

>>42525078
14 euro only test

>>42525093
It's normal to imagine symptoms, especially related to gyno. You shouldn't be getting gyno that early.

>>42524750
Juicy, mirin'

You need to hit chest some harder.
Otherwise perfect goal physique.

>>42524387
>>3 pills are way too crazy.
hahaha

try psmf and 1 hour cardio + lifting every day

taking 200 caffeine/25mg ephedrine every 2 hours won't seem like ENOUGH

although i dropped like 3% bf or so in 7 days 1 of which was a cheat day

>>42524750
do you keep that leannes year round or you cut and bulk?

>>42524988
I appreciate it, especially coming from an expert like you.

>>42525127
Yeah, keep in mind that i was on zero carb(depleted) and no pump in that picture. But still my chest is underdeveloped i know.

I have enough pictures where it looks in sort of proportion, but you know what lightning can do of course.

>>42524750
Show back desu.

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>>42525141
No, this was my latest bulk state. Always gain some fat during bulk, but can always see definition in my arms and abs.

>>42525145
what's your bench/deadlift if you do them?

>>42525145
Your chest seems to build narrowly while your back is wide af.

Fucking pins didn't arrive.

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>>42525187
Don't care about weight anymore

>>42525190
If you at this natty picture you can see how much chest difference carbs angles and a pump can make. It even looks bigger than my roid chest.

>>42525228
I agree, maybe its not so much the chest lacking but your delts and arms overpowering?
But yeah the angle in the earlier pictures does not do your chest justice.

Also did you lose some of your tan?
You look paler (might be lighting) and not as cut as in this picture.

>>42525228
How many cm/inch arms here?

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>>42518802
>If you fucking needed test to get swole and fit in the first place, then you already have shit genes stupid.
>If you need half a fucking gram or more to get swole then you're a genetic dead end.
Why are you in /fraud/ if you're one of these chuds who think anything stronger than creatine is haram?

>>42525228
will you make me your bitch? pls use my boipuqqi

>>42525386
He does have a point.

Using steroids to go farther than nature allows is a big yes.
Using steroids to get average or below average results is WHY.

>>42525389
he's a manlet

>>42525386
This is the red pill that most roid users can't swallow. If you can't look good without roids, you won't look good on them. They supplement a good physique by making it better. If you're a skinny fat idiot that doesn't know how to lift or eat then that's what you're gonna look like on roids

>>42525402
i literally dont care

>>42525392
>WHY
because wasting literally years to get average physique is stupid while you can get on gear and get that i no time

>>42525423
But doing it on roids is just pathetic.

>>42525423
This.
I missed the window to lift natty for years and then hop on roids.
I'd be too old if I went the natty route and just want to catch up.

>>42525414
yeah over 20 years of virginity will do that

>>42525436
post physique so we can value your statement

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>>42525437

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>>42525451
61kg at the 500mg cycle.

8 months bnc total with 1 year natty lifting focused on form and strict diet.
Started at auswitch mode 50kg, 0 muscle and some flab.

>>42514176
There's an asthma medication called formoterol that can increase your strength

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>>42521734
I read they found white powder and a credit card - so he was banging lines from that news story anyway.
Also 2-3 bumps a day of cocaine isn't responsible you fucking mong, and I'm saying this as a former cokehead. If you want to complete the Zyzz transformation and have a heart attack (blood pressure raised from roids + vasoconstriction, bp rise & increased heart rate from cocaine) by all means continue. Cocaine will make you feel dead inside before long and kill a part of you you will never be able to get back, believe me.

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>>42525431
>anybody who reaches their goals in a different manner than I do is a dum dum
lmao dyel natty detected

>>42525252
Yes that's correct, they're overpowering, but it's still underdeveloped there is no denying in that. Just saying that carbs and lighting/angles can make a lot of difference.

That first picture was a cut from last year, i hope i can be at the same level of shredness as the natty picture. Yes, i used to tan a lot then.

>>42525312
around 46-47 cm cold as far as i can remember.

>>42525392
This

>>42525436
That's actually not true scientifically speaking. But hopping on roids arent gonna hurt your gains, rather do the opposite.

>>42525392
>He does have a point.
>Using steroids to go farther than nature allows is a big yes.
>Using steroids to get average or below average results is WHY.

He doesn't have a point. Roiding from dyel status doesn't reduce your potential in anyway and saves a lot of time.

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>>42525592
Agreed he doesn't have a point at all. Low-dose steroids are fairly low risk assuming you're not an idiot, and from the confidence / well-being / energy / sleep gains alone I'd gladly trade a few of my golden years to feel like this now.

>>42525622
I'm not including the risk of people being dyel, jumping on and repping 90% 1rm and continuing to put the weight up fast etc. But that's something else entirely.

For the guy who was getting bad acne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjOvVHFtaXg

>>42521734
save it for cutting so you can starve yourself and get it over with

>>42525661
is that the chemical name for accutane?

>>42525684
Nope, it's a corticosteroid.

>>42525706
herp derp no shit. everything except accutane is a gimmick. the ONLY permanent solution since it permanently affects the glands oversecreting oils

>>42525592
Yeah but that's the whole point; most people that lack knowledge regarding diet, training and so on when they were natty do still on lack this knowledge when they're on steroids. Most people are under the impression that steroids are some kind of miracle drug that will grant you muscle mass like Ronnie coleman without any effort, at least that seems to be the reasoning on this board. Unless you can prove this isn't the case of course.

>>42525622
Would you just stop posting Jerry's pictures. Give the man a break

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tfw mid first blast and either im bloated as fuck or i got fat as fuck in less than 2 months. Im so fucking pissed when im looking in the mirror and im thinking about turning bulk into starvation mode cut

>>42525736
>>>knowledge of training and diet
>take tren hgh eat shitloads of everything
>stimulate the muscles however the fuck you want to failure

>>42525761
Could be a bit of both bloat and fat papi. Drop calories a bit until you stop putting on fat but keep the 'bulk' going, even if it's only slightly above maintenance. Starvation cut mid blast is pants on head tretarded. Deal with the fat later, tack on as much muscle as you can now.

>>42525766
Most are too poor to blast that much GH, SLIN and tren to compensate for their shitty diet/training and genetics

So my point still stands

>>42525736
>make claims and assumptions
>anon has to prove it wrong rather than masT proving it right

>>42525817
100mg anadrol pre-workout.

>>42525828
what?

>>42525817
tren and aas in general are so cheap they might as well be free, hgh isnt expensive even high dose if you know where to look unless you think $0.70 per unit is expensive

>>42525819
What are you talking about. I am always right.

That you are not able to handle the truth, is not my problem.

>>42525881
Depending on where you live.

If you want to get decent GH and blast volumes to compensate for your bad diet etc, then it will cost you a hell lot of money.

>>42525578
I was talking about saving time specifically.
Roids never hurt gains.

>>42525736
Oh man did I expect to blow up in the stereotypical normie view on my first blast...

>>42525906
I find GH to be pretty expensive compared to regular AAS

>>42525915
>Oh man did I expect to blow up in the stereotypical normie view on my first blast...
I know that feeling, brother. I went from 187 to 210 (with a bit of fat) - people make comments about me being big and muscular all the time now, but I still don't see it at all. Probably just because I'm tall, not auchwitz and have a slightly beyond-dyel chest, but fuck me do I have a lot of work left to do. Where are these magic Phil Heath muscles I was supposed to get after three pins?

>>42525976
If you wanna blow up you need to take tbol

>>42512727
lmao idiot

>>42525915
You still have to work/diet your ass off. The reason why i am at this level right now is because i had a relatively good base to start with.

Gh is expensive, especially when you add all the food and steroids on top of that. I am spending +400 euro's on food alone each month.

Damn I brewed this eq shitty.
Always make sure you have enough ba/bb before you brew

This is miserable, 3 day pip per site. Dont think its worth it

>>42523795
They can't tell your bosses that. It's strictly a separate entity for insurance purposes, if your medical history was ever disclosed without your consent, sue. There's absolutely no reason anyone should see that

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I think my tren is bunk lads

>>42526392
I hope its not the homebrew "tren" I sold (actually I just used estradiol cypionate raws instead of tren).

>>42526528
Will it make me qt?

>>42526240
Work/diet is key yes.
But I had this idea of "if I roid I'll be huge in a matter of weeks!".
Thanks media.

>>42526528
you brewed 7-10 usd/gram raws as tren, which is 4 usd/gram? yeah that makes sense dude