Ok, let's assume the following:
Food in prehistorical times wasn't easy to get, everyone was lean as fuck.
There wasn't fitness or roids, everyone was natty.
Even if there was a greek or roman gym in town, the most they did was calysthenics, there wasn't lifting heavy shit sports back then.
Even the people who trained for combat, all they did was calysthenics, people didn't think about roids because they werent invented.
For millions of years, the hot atlethic greek warrior ideal was a lean male, basically any calisthenics guy.
For millions of years, these type of males were the ones that cucked the weak beta males, because of their superior natty skills at war.
Following this logic, girls breed for millions of years seeking such body (calisthenics body).
Following this logic, It seems irrational that girls would prefer anything bigger than othermode or lean guys.
Therefore as I have logically demostrated with real arguments, why natty people are the peak of male aesthetics, because the ones who decide male aesthetics are females, the same logic applies to female aesthetics, is the oposite sex who determines the peak of the oposite sex in terms of sex appeal.
Having said all of this, is pretty clear othermode is the peak of aesthetics and athletic body type with the natty limit of his genetics should be the end goal of fitness.
Roids is not diferent than drug adiction and they're mentally unstable fags that suffer from body dysmorphia, a mental illness, product of marketing by the fitness industry, filled with health risk and illness, seeking a look that is not natural and most girls will see as ugly (>95% girls polls said roids looks disgusting).
>>42478836
Yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farnese_Hercules
>cant even bench 2pl8s
>this is his excuse
sage this homo shit
>>42478836
COPE
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>>42478836
you've been making posts with this image against steroids for days now.
>>42478836
First time i read something i agree on in here.
Some people will be naturally bigger and that's ok but there's no reason to fuck your body up with roids and other crap whatsoever.
>>42478836
Ok, but your pic was a well-known roider.
He was roiding to get shredded, not for muscle mass, but still UNNATURAL.
>Burn the witch, kill the mutant.
>>42478836
>For millions of years, these type of males were the ones that cucked the weak beta males, because of their superior natty skills at war.
False
The guys who fucked the most were the fat, old, wealthy lords who owned the land and sat at home during the wars where the young idiots went off to fight
Feel free to go look it up. The Alphas have always been land owners.
>>42478836
>Bruce Lee
>Natty
Yeah thats why he died so young right
Millions of years? What the fuck are you talking about.
Your arguments are so bad I don't even know where to begin.
>>42482268
>steroids kill people
When will this meme end?
>>42478836
You're right, they are suffering from a form of mental illness, but maybe not in the way you think. The mere 'aesthetics' have little to do with it, that's just the outward excuse. The real reasons roiders, especially here on /fit/, use steroids, are several. They're small (or were made to feel small) and bullied. Humans don't like feeling powerless and out of control of their own lives, and being bullied can do that (if you're weak of character to start with and can't let it roll off your back like water off a duck's). Worse, if one of the two people in your life that you're supposed to be able to unconditionally trust (father and mother) are one of the ones who are bullying you? That's very emotionally damaging. So they want to 'take the power back' in their lives, and in desperation to correct things they turn to steroids, thinking that somehow mere physicality will correct their own inner weaknesses that facilitated the process of being bullied by someone. Little do they know that even the physically strongest can still get bullied by someone smaller and weaker because it's a mental game not a physical one; they could literally smash their bullies into hamburger but they'll still be in their heads. Someday they might realize their approach is all wrong and grow as individuals past the point where bullies and bad parents can get in their heads and mess with them, but as with all things it's a process and it takes time. They may never in fact. Meanwhile, as you observed, like a drug addict, they'll defend their 'addiction' tooth and nail, because it's all they have to cling to; without it they're nothing.
>>42478836
>Millions of years
Our species has been around for 200.000 years at most.
>>42482407
We've been evolving into our current form for millions of years though, we didn't just magically spring into existence 200,000 years ago.
>>42478836
>there wasn't lifting heavy shit sports back then.
farming and many other professions require heavy lifting
>>42482416
OP said that we've evolved from the behavior of the ancient greece.