Ketosis

Doing it right now, strictly for weight loss. Weight's coming off steadily. Eating less sugar. Don't feel hungry between meals. 4 months so far. Gets easier everyday to stick with it. Don't know about other health benefits, but the weight loss is good enough for me

>>42477659
nice anon, how much weight have you lost?

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>>42477471
its only good if you are really seriously trying to get into the single digit body fat, for instance for a bb comp.

or for morbidly obese people to easily lose weight.

dont do it if ur not prepping for a comp, or not morbidly obese

and its only for very very short term. because in order to actually get calories into your body (especially if you are going super hardcore, like less than 10g carbs a day) there is gunna be a fuckton of fat in the diet. so say so long to having open, non-clogged arteries

>mfw people think eating nothing but bacon and brie cheese is healthy

>>42477471
It treats autism now? Could help a lot of this board

>>42477962
>there are only bad fats
>you get fat off fat

>>42477962
>t. I know nothing about the ketogenic diet

>>42477471
I lost a good 10 lbs off of it. Hardest part was cutting out bread. Mouth was fucking sandpaper when I woke up everyday but it was worth.

>>42477471
The last like 5 episodes have been about keto l hope he's just crapping out episodes for someone amazing at 1000

>>42479350
1000 has already been confirmed as just joey diaz and someone else i cant remembee, lee syatt or tom segura

I am on my first week of Keto right now and my mouth tasted like the inside of a can of black olives all the time, does this go away?

>>42479388
stop eating black olives

>>42479372
Well joey diaz is always a good time

>>42477471
can it be %45 prots %45fat and %10 carbs?

>>42479372
I was hoping it would be someone more epic like Conor McGregor or Elon Musk. His podcast could use some more notable guests.

>>42479338
I'm on day 2 with keto and I already broke my diet with bread, definitely a lot harder than expected. Also not eating sweets is tough since I'm practically addicted to ice cream and chocolate.

Tomorrow's a new day.

>>42477471
>godlike as people make it?
fuck no, it makes you feel retarded

really, it is a hard ass diet that you shouldn't do unless you have a very special reason, like needing to go from 8% to 4% or something

It's not a diet where you "get" to eat bacon, it's a diet where you HAVE to eat bacon. Big, big difference.

>>42479338
>10 lbs
5 of which were glycogen

>>42479426
NO CARBS RETARD. You'll get more than enough carbs sneaking in in your meat and hitchhiking on your dietary fiber.

>>42479426
No. Think 25% protein, 70% fat and 5% carbs (or less really)

Protein can be converted to glucose and too much will kick you out of ketosis.

Honestly why are we still having this thread every day? Keto has been around for fucking ever. There are a million fucking resources on the internet about it. Lyle McDonald wrote a book on it before cat memes got stale. This is not new. It's like this forum gets newer every fucking day.

>>42477471
sounds like a great way to die early

>>42479527
>NO CARBS RETARD

Please go.

so is inflammation really that bad? why do people eat so much carbs if its really that unhealthy for you and more people get on keto diet?

>>42477962
>trust me, I'm a smart guy
>I watch comedy central for my political opinions

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fuck my shit up senpai. im literally eating blobs of "fat" in my bowl of food and still not hitting the fat macro required to get into keto

>>42477962
>eating only saturated fats is keto
>eating a lot of dairy is keto

I'm not on it now, but I ate a ton of green vegetables and unsaturated fats on keto and felt great

>>42477471
> Have you ever been in ketosis /fit/?
yes

>Is it as godlike as people make it?
yes. as soon you enter ketosis, you dont feel like you are starving anymore, and you gain normal energy levels back, even though youre at 1400 KCAL. also your burn like 90% fat, which is incredible.

disadvantage: you cant maintain for a longer period, and i suppose it isnt really the most healthy diet due to lack of food variety

>>42480899
There is no macro goal to hit. Just stay below 20-50gr of carbos and yer goot.

Fat is needed for energy so adjust accordingly.

>>42477962
Dietary fat is not abdominal fat. The body rapidly loses.weight because its just not as good at just storing any calories as fat but excess glucose in the liver as fat. Technically you dont even have to keto. Just not being American can guarantee you wont be obese.

Adam Ruins Everything even admitted this and he's a cuck

>>42477471

I've been eating keto for about 3 years now. I've taken sporadic breaks, but I always go back to eating keto.

The biggest thing for me is that I don't get as hungry. When I'm eating carbs, I feel an almost painful need to eat when I get hungry. I don't get that when I eat keto. I also feel much more focused.

It's great for killing your appetite. There were many days where I ended up just drinking water and eating nothing because I simply wasn't hungry. This reason is also why I had to stop, couldn't do fuck all for workouts with not eating properly.

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>>42479398
>>42479388

>>42481117
Been in ketosis for the same, 3 years.

Just had a full blood panel. Came back near perfect. Tri was 120 for a 39yr old. Doctor had no fucking idea what went on, swore I had to of gone vegan lol. Told the fucker he'd never get me on pills for chloesterol. Love being right.

Been on it for a few weeks. Looking a lot leaner.

I never really "craved" carbohydrates and shit to begin with. The only things I noticed at first was

A: I was incredibly grumpy
B: I burned out on my sets much faster

It got better though. Never feel hungry now and never really seem to lose my drive later in the day. Just steady constant stable energy.

Could be a placebo tho lol.

>>42477659
That's how withdrawal feels like.

Sugar is an addictive drug and the body doesn't actually need it for anything. Once you're in as far as you are you can ditch carbs forever.

Okay, so what's the go with protein shakes on keto? I've been taking a scoop with unsweetened almond after workouts. The nutrition information lists there as being under 5g of carbohydrates per scoop but I'm worried about any potential insulin spikes.

Am I being a bitch over nothing?

Real question:

Key-toe
or
Keh-toe

>>42481224

Keh-toe

Those who disagree must die.

>>42481218
Depends on the blend as you point out. I buy the ketochow meal shit and toss an added scoop of protein in that bitch. It's cash. Don't feel hungry for hours.

>>42481218
whey causes a bigger insulin spike than pure sugar

>>42477962
>bacon and brie are the only fats I know about

could you shut up if you know nothing about the topic discussed?

>>42481231
While not wrong it's also not that big of a deal. Studies have proven no negative impact especialy if in ketosis. Seems to counter out somewhere else.

>>42481224
it's key-toe because it's ketones (key tones). Not fucking khethones.

>>42477962
Actually, fat intake hardly corresponds to clogged arteries.

New findings show that the clogging mostly stems from the bloods natural coagulation mechanims and donating blood plasma on a somewhat regular basis can help to prevent it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc1XsO3mxX8

>>42477471
>autism

keto is pretty much a meme since doing it long term might affect your gainz

>>42481370
It's good if you're obese trying to shed weight or for something really specific

>>42479527
>5 of which were glycogen
5lbs of glycogen? How much glycogen do you think your body actually stores?

>>42480899
i know literally nothing about keto but you should try eating some almonds

>>42477471
I'm generally in ketosis. Not from a concerted effort on my part. Just from the diet I eat.

About the only things we eat are meats and produce. The most carb ladened thing we'll eat would be corn or peas. I don't eat bread or soft dairy. And I rarely touch fruit. The kids are much more sugar crazed than we are and eat fruit ad libitum.

>>42480899
That's basically perfect, a 1:1 ratio by weight of protein to fat is a good guideline

>>42479454
>Conor McGregor or Elon Musk.

Elon is changing the world. Conor beat up men for money, and he's not even the best at it. Don't mention them in the same breath again

>>42481500
this

in a hundred years Elon Musk's legend is going to be a real-life Peter Weyland.

Conor is going to be a long forgotten factoid on trivia with friends you try to google before your time runs out

>>42477962
>because in order to actually get calories into your body
wat

>>42477471
>cancer
>autism
>depression
>migraines
>parkinsons
>alzheimers

No. Only thing keto has been shown to curb is epilepsy. Everything else is insignificant and pseudoscience until more tests are done

helped me get rid of my acne

>>42481591
>Only thing keto has been shown to curb is epilepsy.

This shit is a fucking miracle. I just naturally eat a mostly ketogenic diet as a result of my food preferences.

When I met my boyfriend he was regularly having seizures even on some pretty strong medications. Both the seizures and medications were wreaking havoc on his quality of life.

Three months after moving in with me we were sitting and watching a movie and he got a bit spacey. It wasn't a full blown seizure and just the auras. He pulled out his notebook to put it in and he realized he had just gone the longest in 5 years without a seizure.

I told him it was because of the low carb diet and he went full bore <20 grams a day and been eating that way for 10 years. That aura ten years ago was his last seizure. and he hasn't been on his medication for 9 years after a 1 year taper

>>42480267
Sure, fuck up your body by eating a bunch of fat without actually going into ketosis

>>42481386
Glycogen and its water of hydration. About 5lbs for someone 6'2"

>>42481811
On the minus side, for us normals it makes us feel retarded.

>>42481218
Insulin spikes with no glucose present won't do much to keep you out of ketosis, in fact you need leucine to spike insulin to build muscle at all. The 5g of carbs sounds sketch though, I'd get a better protein powder

>>42477471
Lost about 25lbs in the span of 6 weeks. Later on in the diet I didn't even feel any sweets cravings or anything.
Stopped because I like pasta and rice too much. But I haven't put on any weight since then at least.

>>42480899
Here is the secret anon, the fat is a cap, not a goal. If you don't real the cap it'll just be taken from your reserves.

So long as you aren't feeling extremely hungry you're doing fine.

>>42481224

Keh-toe would be spelt ketto

>>42482934
yeah its such a crazy feeling. i feel like i could stop at 1800 calories because eating the last 400 calories of food takes awhile due to being so full already

Took me about a month to fully get used to it, but it's the best diet I've ever followed. I was a sweet tooth, which coupled with the lack of discipline led to me being overweight, now I have zero carb cravings. The downside is the diet is more expensive compared to what I was eating before, but it's worth it.
Funnily enough, it was prescribed to me by my doctor. I also have some fatty infiltration in my liver and pancreas, so all the more reasons to be on keto.

>>42481500
Elon is an irrelevant meme, and Connor is fun.

>>42479454
Funny I was thinking of the same two guys when thinking who should be on #1000. But it's probably not gonna happen.

>>42483011
This guy knows whats up.

Middle English scribes began the method of using double consonants after a vowel to denote short vowel sounds. Now we have several ways to do that or to denote long vowel sounds because this language is a freakin mess, but that rule is pretty solid.

Messy
Dressing
Pressure
Lesson
Latter
Critter
etc

Hate
Make
Smoke
Broke
etc

a ketogenic diet is practially the opposite of a vegan diet, so obviously it's going to be very bad for you.

use your brain.

>>42483466
This man gets it

>>42481176
Okay I agree that the body doesn't need a lot of the refined carbohydrates that's added in excess in processed foods today, but that's not right. Your body needs sugar for normal function, and if you've ever done keto, you'd know how much less energy you have, and how far your performance is from normal. Evolution didn't make your body favor carbohydrates before any other macronutrients to meme you. Of course, by 'need', I only mean during normal function, when you're eating maintenance.

2 years in ketosis here, my epilepsy was cured just like >>42481811. I had help from a neurologist, places like Johns Hopkins will actually help you use ketogenic/modified atkins diet to treat epilepsy, it's a legit treatment.

My neurologist says the only problem with diet treatment for epilepsy is that almost no one can actually stick to it. It's kind of a shame, because a lot of anticonvulsants slow the brain down and can fuck with your mental health.

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>>42477471
I do it like on and off. One week I'll stay in ketosis the other up just eat like 50 carbs maybe a bit more. I don't have too much muscle mass cause I spend most of my excerises sparing at the gym. This diet is absolutely shit for people who do drills daily.
If I'm loaded on carbs I can fight for like 1:30, but on the keto diet I'm able to keep my hands up for 45 minutes before giving up

>>42483427

Best example is rapping/raping.

But the rule for vowels followed by K generally seems to be to insert a C instead, idk why
Block/Bloke
Cock/Coke
Stock/Stoke

>>42477471
>shows promise for treating a list of things
>studies have shown common keto foods do not treat, but make those conditions worse
Wew lads

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>>42477962

How easy is it to drop out of keto or crawl back in? If I keep my diet strict but, let's say, go for a night of drinking and there's obviously beer or drinks there do I instantly drop out and start regaining weight from storing sugars? Or can I return to the diet next day and it'll be fine?

Also on some websites I saw the term "net carbs" tossed around and calculated as carbs minus fibers. How would that work? If it does, can I munch some extra fiber and then go drink?

I'm thinking of getting on keto to lose some fat (no excercises thought, I couldn't manage it time-wise), passing on sweets and bread seems doable, but getting hammered with my best friend once or twice a month is a tradition I'm not really ready to give up.

Also sorry for asking questions here, but whenever I search on the web I either get people claiming it does miracles (and wanting to sell me their recipies) or it kills you (stories about clogging arteries and hair falling out)

So when I see some people having reasonable opinions here I want to make use of the occasion.

Thank you kindly in advance.

>>42484580
Dumbass net carbs just means you don't count fiber towards your daily allowance. You can't invalidate other carbs by just eating more fiber

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>>42477962
wowee even a fucking shitty resolution picture of Jon Stewart, this is REALLY GOOD bait holy fuck

>>42484600
Thanks. I've had biology back in HS and done some reading but I never heard about keto before, so idea of fiber somehow cancelling carbs didn't seem so implausible. I know I'm a dumbass when it comes to keto but I'm here to learn so I don't accidentally off myself

Went into ketosis March 18 weighing 340. Weighed myself at the gym yesterday: 264.6. I've had more energy than I have in years, no hunger pains between meals, hell I don't even think about eating til I realize it's time to eat. I've definitely lost some strength but I've still been able to lift that it hasn't completely destroyed me.

>>42484827
What calorie deficit are you working on? While in ketosis you should still be able to make significant strength gains as a fat fuck losing fat as long as you're getting enough protein.

>>42484580
>>42484600
Fiber counts as a carb but isn't digested like one. So your net carb intake for the day is your total carbs minus total fiber.

Net carbs is the number to worry about.

>>42484854
You literally just repeated what I said gj

I enter ketosis 12 hours aftereating or deep ketosis in around 24 hours

I fasted many times in the past and that made my body somewhat keto-adapted so whenever it's running out of carbs i immediately get into ketosis and maybe easier than other people who eat regularly

ketosis is god

>>42483537
>your body needs sugar for normal function

Yes, and you eat sugars on a ketogenic diet.

>You'd know how much less energy you have

Seeing how as no solid clinical meta-study has been conducted around this frivolous anecdotal claim, shove it up your ass. I feel great.

>>42482724
What kind of retarded ketotic diet do you maintain that you have anywhere close to 30 fucking grams of carbs "hitchhiking" in your meats and dietary fiber?

Like honestly what the fuck, is your version of keto just switching out for wheat bread or something?

I've been pissing keto for a week having yogurt in the mornings and even a couple low-carb beers one day. I'm not even watching my meats or veggies except in obvious ways like not eating potatoes and shit.

While it is a fact that it is cals in vs cals out I know that when I did keto(starting again ) I lost around 50 lbs in 3 months while I know that alot of it was water weight I actually felt really good and no other diet has made me feel like that.Not only did I lose weight but it was the first time I ever lost my man boobs and love handles in my life.

>>42477471
Nothing upsets me more than this "keto is super strict" or "keto is hard" meme. You literally just don't eat starchy vegetables or bread/breaded things.

You have to try to fuck up keto, just look at the nutrition labels if you aren't sure. A lot of people can stay in keto ranges at 50 grams of carbs, which without bread, sugary shit you shouldn't be eating, or starchy vegetables, requires an absolute fuck ton of food to reach.

>>42477471
After the first few days in keto I feel normal as long as I'm getting enough medium chain triglycerides in my diet. Its only difficult if 90% of what one eats is carbs but thats usually only in people who don't understand nutrition anyway.

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>>42483182
>the diet is more expensive compared to what I was eating before
One of those costs like 65 cents here.

>>42483537
>your body needs sugar for normal function

"Sugar" is not an essential nutrient in any shape way or form. In fact you can live without any dietary carbohydrates at all, a big fat 0

Every cell in the body (save for the brain) is capable of running exclusively on fatty acids and ketone bodies. And when it comes to the brain, only a fraction of it actually requires glucose to operate, the most primitive parts of the brain. The rest of it (~75%) can operate just fine on ketone bodies.

Additionally the production of ATP from ketones and fatty acids results in less ROS's for the cell to mop up and take care of compared to glucose.

As to the:
>you know how much less energy you have
Is because of your body's poor adaptation to fat metabolism. When you run your body on glucose continuously your cells have a pretty reliable and easy energy source for ATP generation. Fat metabolism on the other hand takes longer for the mitochondria organelles to produce ATP. As a result of this bottleneck you feel like you are more lethargic and have less energy. This is why low intensity aerobic workouts in the fasted state are shilled so hard in the keto community to encourage epigenetic pressure to increase mitochondrial density intra-cellularly.
Furthermore the claim that you "need carbs" is even more bullshit from the simple fact that your liver is more than capable of making glucose from protein. And teh fact that every single triglyceride molecule in your body has a glyceride backbone which is taken up by the liver after the fatty acids are cleaved and can be converted directly to glucose through gluconeogenesis.

>>42483466
>a ketogenic diet is practially the opposite of a vegan diet
I'm doing keto as a vegetarian

>>42485633
Also adding that any sugar we might need is synthesized through gluconeogenesis from fatty or amino acids. Carbs are useless

>>42485656
>repeating EXACTLY what I said in the last statement
Except you're wrong.

Your body cannot synth glucose from fatty acids. It can make it from amino acids.

The glucose it can manufacture is from the glyrcerol backbone that the fatty acids attach to.

G - F A T T Y A C I D
L
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C - F A T T Y A C I D
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L - F A T T Y A C I D

>>42485633
>your liver is capable of making glucose from protein

friendly reminder to watch your protein balance on keto so as not to induce ketoacidosis

>>42485816
>>42485816
>2017
>still thinking ketoacidosis occurs in people who have normal insulin function

Ketoacidosis is a metabolic state in which ketone body counts exceed 10mmol/dl while simultaneously having an extremely elevated blood glucose level


Normal insulin function prevents elevated blood glucose levels, Furthermore, even in ketosis regardless of how much fat your body is mobilizing, the liver only converts enough amino acids and glycerol to glucose to keep your glucose levels in the normal range. It doesn't just willy nilly go on a glucose manufacturing spree to the point of hyperglycemia.

>>42484580
Best way to handle what you want to do is skip excessive drinking for 1 month. From there you body becomes more keto adapt.

After that any time you drink in excess you drop out of keto but don't 3-5 days to fall back in. Rather it'll only take 2 days (if you even leave it keeping everything else controlled).

Keto is the worst diet to be on if you have no self control or need a lot cheat meals/days. However you shouldn't let it get in the way of your life. And the stories you hear are mostly a crock of shit or from 300+ lb wilder beasts who were already fucked up from their previous habits.

>>42483182

When I first started keto it was expensive to supplement living in D.C. Now I live in Austin and it's 30-40% cheaper to keep up.

>>42485957
I live in the Bay Area and I basically didn't have to change anything although obviously life out here in general is incredibly expensive if you want to eat / enjoy quality.

>>42486093

I can't even imagine living in the Bay Area after barely scraping by in D.C. Austin is a breath of fresh air cost-of-living wise.

>>42485919
Thanks. That sounds awesome. And it kinda aligns with my goals here. I'm in a situation where if I don't switch to mealprep and introduce some diet I'm going to get very fat very soon, but that does not mean that I want the diet to ruin my social life.

Leave it to burgers to shill for a diet that'll have you eat bacon and eggs and fried chicken as a staple for your diet while pretending it's health

>>42479475
get some 85-90% dark chocolate and savor 1 square at a time. Also look up keto avocado chocolate pudding. Helps with cravings for chocolate. That is my one weakness but those help.

>>42486226

>friend chicken

Carbs

Can I do keto while on a cut? I want to go from 15%bf to around 10%. I'm on a 2000 cal, training 5 times a week.

>>42485581
Keto comes off hard because it is highly counter productive to how us burgers are taught food.

Breads are bad.
99% of the fruit section is banned.
We have to actually know the differences among veggies.
Bad meats are good and good meats do little to nothing for you.
Only dairy, salts, and sugars are untouched.

>>42485957
I live in the maryland area and I'd say it cost me easily around $300-$400 a month. However that is taking into account I make a lot of custom food from low carb shit, eat at an expensive work restaurant, and buy a shit ton of snack almonds. Without those caveats could probably save a good $150+ easy and even more if just stuck to basics like eggs & pork.

On the flip side being able to make highly tasty food makes it easy to keep cheat meals down to one high carb meal for weight lifting.

>>42486249

I still have my Maryland license and car plates.. I'm changing that over to Texas soon. I kind of miss it, but don't. I could potentially move back in a few years and live around Fort Meade or whatever.

Maryland/D.C. groceries killed me though I easily was up $300-400 as well, Texas looks like I'll be around 200-350 at most a month.

Keto diet is a death cult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKaBCPoD6DQ

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>>42486241
>Doing keto
>On cut

Anon I want you to think on this hard, and ask yourself what a cut means.

CAICO > diet. Keto compliments a cut well as the fat helps you feel full. I just wouldn't believe any of the shit about not losing muscles or it being better than a standard diet.

>>42486258
Heh my friends are opposite. Came up here from Texas and hated all the liberal crap they had to go through with their car. One had to sale it because there was 0 chance in hell of passing the emissions tests with it. Another had to remove the car tinting.

If I had my way I'd just buy a tiny house trailer, big ass truck along with some land and live south some place with muh gunz.

>>42486290

I transferred from Florida to Maryland super easy at the DMV. I was in and out within 20 minutes with a new license and car registered after my previous one was totaled in a typical D.C. hit and run.

I just don't want Maryland to have claims to my income tax still. They can take their fucking plates and my driver's license for all I care.

>>42486226
Nice strawman

>>42485509
>What kind of retarded ketotic diet do you maintain that you have anywhere close to 30 fucking grams of carbs "hitchhiking" in your meats and dietary fiber?
the one where you have jerky, lots of nuts and salads with dressing. It's nice you can stay in keto being a sloppy fuck but that' doesn't mean it's normal or should be promoted.

>>42486290
I see, I was planning on doing it just for a few months. In the best scenario I should be bulking by december.

>>42484580
the more you do keto, the easier it is to switch back if you mess up. it took me 2 weeks when i first started to stop feeling side effects. then i messed up for a birthday party and it only took a couple of days.

fiber comes from carbs. at best you can cancel out the carbs you eat but cant go negative.

biggest thing is to keep your electolyte levels up. i drink a large powerade zero with extra salt added everyday.

So what's the verdict. Is keto actually better than a balanced diet for fat loss or no?

>>42486832
Keto is probably the single best diet for rapid fat/weight loss

>>42486933
>>42486832
Keto + IF masterdiet

>>42484580
>how easy is it to drop out of keto

Depends.
Do you want to go through months of healing up your gut bacteria?
If so, then go right ahead.

I caused myself IBS and literally had bleeding stools after being on keto for 2 months.
Reason? Carb, fiber, and phytonutrient intollerance.

Your body adapts again to eating starchy and carb rich foods, but it takes time, and it isn't fun.

>>42486832
It's less sustainable than fasting, and has 0 benefits on healthy people for body composition.
Keto can fuck up your intestines and your stomach acidity long term, it's a dumbass idea unless you have an actual medical reason to do it.

>>42480899
>people unironically eating lard because they are told to

Fuck this shitty board and fuck this shit meme diet seriously. What the fuck is wrong with you people.

>>42487265
>I caused myself IBS and literally had bleeding stools after being on keto for 2 months
How do you manage to fuck up like that?

>>42487286
Can you draw an arrow in >>42480899 's pic to the lard?

>>42487288
By getting into a ketogenic diet.
Look it up, ketogenic diets can easily cause long term damage on your gut bacteria depending on your genetics.

>>42487297
>lard is completely different from butter

Sorry professor, my mistake.

>>42487300
>depending on your genetics
Tragic.

>>42487316
>>lard is completely different from butter
It is.

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>>42487338
Risking my good health for no real benefit doesn't seem like a good idea, I'm glad I am recovered now and stopped following diet fads online.

>lard is completely different from butter
Ok Dr Atkins

>>42487286

I don't throw a stick of butter into everything. I just eat more Macadamia nuts or avocado..

>>42487386
>animal fat
>dairy product
Do you struggle with reading?

>>42486832
If you're an obese fat fuck then yes. You'll see a faster drop compared to a standard diet. Once you start to reach human levels it evens out and you should just go with what works best for you. I've been doing keto long term simply because I prefer eating cheese, beef, and pork over chicken n bread day in, day out.

>>42487265
It sounds like you didn't take fiber supplements while on keto. Fiber is something people typically lack in a standard diet. Keto amplifies this to a point your shits become rock hard toilet clogging knives.

To avoid this take fiber powder or something similar so that you shit daily.

>>42487386
As said eariler, you don't have to reach the fat cap. Thats just a number to make sure you don't go over and start storing excess fats.

>>42487138
A fucking men

>>42487265
Weird dude cuz the first thing "keto IBS" pulls up on google is about two pages of testimonials of people claiming keto helped with theirs. Sounds like you just stopped eating fiber for some reason?

>>42487933
RE: Your first point. Keto is really good at reducing fat at single percentages, and there are bunch of people in this very thread saying that. I don't know where you got the idea that the efficacy of keto is slowed at normal weights.

>>42486353
It's normal to maintain ketosis under 30 grams of carbs, some outliers can even do it under 100. It's not sloppy to have a yogurt, don't be a salty bitch.

>>42486249
>salts
No.

>dairy
Also no.

Keto is not a 0-carb diet. It is a low-carb diet. Please don't do this shit to your body for no reason.

>>42488599
>don't be a salty bitch
too much bacon desu senpai, I am become salt

>>42487408
Kek

>>42488618
You misinterpreted what I said. My comparisons were in relation to the US food pyrimyd. IE those two food groups are treated the same as if it was a low fat diet. Of course you won't reach 0 carb without fucking yourself over.

>>42488559
Keto isn't a magical speed diet. Otherwise you'd see athletes and other professionals swearing up and down by it and there wouldn't be this meme crap around it.

Perhaps I'm not clear in saying normal weights = healthy, relatively normal bmi. Or at a point where you'd have to be counting calories anyways to reach single digit BF. CICO will still rule over all else. All the amazing weight loss stories for it are from people who have tons of fat to burn.

Now if you got articles pointing to other wise I'd love to read it, but nothing in my readings outside the redit circle jerk has been counter to what I've stated.

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>>42484827
Your weight loss is the reason you have more energy and feel better man. Didn't matter how you did it you would feel 100x better after dropping all that weight.

>>42484630
How to achieve Hisoka mode, preferably pre-allahuakbar?

Most ketor report feeling like shit when they eat carbs again .

>ABSOLUTELY NO METABOLIC DAMAGE CAUSED BREH IT'S NORMAL TO HAVE HEADACHES WHEN YOU EAT A POTATO .