Nofap a SCAM?

>>42472439
It sounds like you're addicted to porn. If you do noporn/nofap you may temporarily gain some mental clarity, but you will also have to exert a lot of willpower to fight urges.

I'd recommend trying it for a week. Even if the brainfog doesn't go away, you will have a really good fap when the week is over.

>>42472514
I remember when I was 17 when I started PMO, I had a clear mind and could plan my shit right. I won't forget shit half sentence. That's literally the only shit's different then and now. I fap every single day, EVERY SINGLE DAY, if it's not because of this I don't know what is.

>>42472526
You started fapping to porn at 17? I thought I was a late bloomer starting at 15.

Anyways, it's my opinion that porn is incredibly addictive and has had a devastating affect on my mental health. Cutting out porn and masturbation from my life always causes an immediate boost in energy and confidence, however I always relapse eventually. With each relapse it gets even harder to quit.

>>42472670
I heard you have to start early before your brain permanently wired itself at 25 or above, where neuroplasticity slows down.

>>42472439
>brain fog

?

I dont have fog and I jerk twice a day. I cut porn to like once a week though because porn is pretty bad.

>>42472728
Basically your brain feels like a cotton wool is stuffed in it, you can't think clearly, thoughts is your mind gets muffled and you often find it hard to recall things.

>>42472738
Jerking off without porn is ok, just like a wet dream any guy can have and they don't have this problem. But porn increases the dopamine rush in your brain, because your whole brain gets jittery when you keep finding shit that makes your dick diamond and keep doing that for 2 years and your brain gets addicted to porn. Based on studies, like https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23167900/ , your brain starts losing cognitive functions and then you start getting problems like mine

>>42472439
Bump

It's a fucking meme, just get more sleep you dip

>>42472795
this is a weird question to ask but can you not get hard without watching porn? Sounds to me like you just need to quit porn cold turkey.

>>42472834
Yea actually, it ruined me, now even with porn, I have to wank for 30 mins before I actually get hard. It's a pretty bad problem isn't it, feels like I'm not only having this brain fog, but also on my way to ED.

>>42472748
Nofap is a meme. Here's a pro tip. Write down in the morning everything you do/don't wanna do during the day. Always have the list with you and put checkmarks next to things you've done to reward your lizard brain. Spend more time focused on productive shit.

>>42472439
Last summer I tried nofap and after day 11 I jerked off because I had painful elections. Shit fucking exploded. About 1.5 months ago I started on noporn, and masturbation has naturally subsided a lot. I've jerked off 4 or 5 times since stopping porn, and I've been a lot happier.

I really think there is nothing wrong with masturbation. In my own case, it seems like I needed it more last year than I do now, but idk. Porn is the real problem. Cut that shit asap.

>>42472852
stop jerkingit when you aren't horny you fucking idiot

>>42472883
It's not even being horny anymore, it's being addicted to that high when you orgasm to porn that makes you rock hard.

I can confirm nofap is legit. I jerked twice a day always with porn. Got so used to using the same hand/grip/stroke that when i went to lose my virginity i couldnt even get off because i started going soft in the girl. I immediately quit porn and would go 7 days of nofap, then 2 days of pornless fap (using a lighter slower grip), then back to nofap etc etc... now i feel like im cured. When im on nofap i have a craving for women that i see, and when i fap it feels so much better than before. I mustve desensitized my dick pretty badly from fapping the exact same way for years.

>>42472439
Fapping doesn't cause brain fog, you're sick and should probably see a doctor.

>>42472909
He said he starts without a boner and struggles to achieve it, which is obviously retarded. But there's no reason to just ignore a boner

>>42472928
Thing is, I already saw a psychiatrist, he doesn't know what I have, said I'm perfectly fine, and sent me home with a slip telling me to do something I already do which is exercise and sleep properly.

There's research done on it, that porn causes lower cognitive functions: http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fm%2Fpubmed%2F23167900%2F

>>42472964
First of all, that study shows that porn causes immediate distraction, not chronic loss of cognitive function. Secondly, it's a psyche journal, so there's a 90% chance this experiment is non-repeatable. Have you ever considered that you could just be fucking stupid?

>>42473043
Why don't you come up with an evidence that proves otherwise. Instead of blatantly telling me it's fake, there's so many anecdotes to back that up as well, so much is weighed against you and you tell me that it's all fake and placebo, that's not being academic about it at all.

>>42472852
>I have to wank for 30 mins before I actually get hard
Fucking hell man, stop doing this today

Your brain fog and fapping are unrelated.

>>42473089
There's brain scans on active porn uses which suggest: "More porn use also correlated with weakened connections between the seat of our willpower, the frontal cortex."
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574

>>42473070
We have zero evidence of any kind of mechanism for the proposal, extremely limited and poorly constructed mechanistic studies, and anecdotes from people who admit to not being in the right state of mind. But anecdotes work for you? Fine, here's mine: I jerk it, to porn, 3 or 4 days a week and I'm still at the top of my game, and can get it up when I need to. Because I only fap when I feel the need, and not twice a day out of boredom

>>42473159
There's already brain scans on it that show a difference we're not even talking about psychology, it's in the field of psychiatry.
>3 to 4 days a week
Try doing it 2 times a day for 2 years and see what happens. Anecdote discarded.

>>42473201
I fucking said that twice a day was a bad idea. But not because of your brain, but because of your dick. It's a worse experience, will inhibit your ability to have sex, and is just a fucking waste of time

That MRI study you linked literally says right in the begining that they couldn't prove causality in their findings, IE, they didn't know if differences arose from differences porn consumption, or caused the differences in porn consumption.

>>42473127
well wut if u use porn give u a boost of test work harder. Wouldn't that technically take more willpower.

>>42473243
Correlation is not causation bro. Causation is something that needs to be simultaneously agreed upon over several researches. If causation was so easily found, we would've found the key to balding already. However, there is still a silver lining to it.

But I digress, I'll do it and then see what happens alright? If nothing happens, boo hoo. If yes, you owe me and apology.

>>42472439
Damn lad every day is way too much, at least cut it back every 3 days or some, or even 7 days if you can even tho I'd recommend going a full 90 days for a reset, your body and mind def needs it.

>>42473286
In actual scientific fields, you can construct mechanistic based studies to logically prove causation. Usually by demonstrating a difference, making it go away by neutralizing the proposed cause, and then bringing the difference back by reintroducing the cause.

>>42472831
This.

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>>42472670
>keep getting re-addicted
>manage to get into weirder and weirder shit every time.
I want off this ride, anon.

>>42472439
Answer these questions honestly:

When do you go to sleep and for how long?
Do you drink a lot of caffeinated soda?
Do you exercise? Any cardio?
Do you get enough sunlight?
Do you eat a lot of sugary shit like candy bars?
How much water do you drink in a day?

Brain fog is often caused by a combination of bad habits.
You can start reducing the times you fap to one every three days, but most importantly, no porn in between (hard mode: no porn at all).