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read le reddit wiki www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki

no sauce talk XD
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>tfw no gf
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>>42449899
are you a pedo?
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>>42449899
that vid was cringe and awkward, faggot.

I dont track calories.


>>42449615
oats,nuts, seeds, hemp are my main sources i guess.

i get 150g of protein daily easily. Could do more with proton shakes if i wanted to.

Yeah im not your average vegan faggot. I dont even care that much up animals and i dont have a problem eating unhealthy food or taking a shit ton of supplements.
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>>42449899
> tfw this is considered exceptional beauty for a woman
> in reality she's just average and doesnt eat like a pig
> tfw have to be top 1% of men to get a woman who doesnt eat like a fucking pig
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>>42449932
Not everyone wants an obese braphog.
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>>42449935
Why go vegan then, cost?

I know it much be cheap as fuck to live off beans and oats, but I don't think I could forsake a nice steak or piece of fish.
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>>42449937
>just average
Honestly fuck off
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>>42449935
It makes sense now why your gains are shit.
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>>42449899
You ever try to be less ugly? No i mean serious, 80% of the population is ugly, 15% normal looking, and 5% is god-tier/good looking.

You're just as ugly as the other 80%, so what is the problem

>>42449932
95% of the faggots who posts over here.

They don't have much to offer so they have to try younger girls that are more impulsive, thus more change they will get noticed.
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REMINDER: No amount of steroids will change the fact that you're a BETA-AS-FUCK manlet pussy on the inside, or make your face handsome, or make you intelligent, or make you interesting, and all the bullies who picked on you and beat you up your whole life will still scare the piss out of you no matter how big your artificial muscles get.
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>>42449937
>crab mentality
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>>42449987
But what if you're already tall, handsome, intelligent and interesting and you add steroids to it.

What will happen then?
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>>42449987
I actually got therapy to work over my childhood bullying, I didn't realise how much it affected me until I started talking about it.

A few months afterwards I was going out and enjoying myself at parties, ran into the one guy that really pushed it most of my school life, he tried the same old shit and I laid him out like I didn't think was possible.

I honestly thought I was going to get locked up so I hid out at a friend's house for a week and called in emergency TOIL from work.
Nothing ended up happening, later on decided that I need to do impulsive/questionable stuff every once in while if it improves how I feel.

And that's how I lost my natty card.
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>>42450025
If you're already tall, handsome, intelligent and interesting then why do you need them?
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>>42450044
Well it's very nice that you managed to work through some of your issues but you still feel the need to use steroids then you have more insecurity issues you need to work through, senpai.
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>>42449937
Go outside. She's well, well above average.
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>>42449959
im convinced you'll live longer if you are vegan, and unlike 99% of people, i actually want to become as old as possible.

Yeah its cheap.
I never had pleasure in eating like most normies do. Sure i like to eat candy here and there but throughout my entire life my largest meal never lasted more than 10 minutes because i would just shove all my meals into my mouth as fast as possible trying to not waste any time.
I see it as a resource. Something i have to do to stay alive. I dont enjoy eating. When i see my friends spending 40 minutes for a single meal i die internally and think "40 minutes wasted, for nothing".

>>42449979
still more gainz than u


>>42449987
atleast post the full version
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>>42450025
I've got this. Can't befriend a girl without her developing a crush on me. Sadly I'm a hopeless romantic beta on the inside so I can't just pump-n-dump
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>>42450025
Thats when you get me
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>>42450067
I just want to get bigger.
I started working out at the advice of my c-psy, started out doing meme shit the PTs had me on, later found /fit/ and started exercising seriously.

Exercise massively improved my confidence and depression.
Bulking was easy, but the cut did make me feel bad, SARMs became a gateway drug (as I said before, I decided to do questionable shit if it improved me emotionally), then Test and I've never looked back.

I don't think I'll ever do YUGE dosages, I'm not about that, but I feel great and I'm working towards being the person I want to be.

My c-psy knows, and isn't 100% on board (at least talked me out of orals), but provides advice on dosages and how they will affect me emotionally.

>>42450075
Fair enough, I'm convinced eating clean (including meat), dosing low and monitoring my micros will help me live a longer life.

I can understand the benefits of seeing food as a resource, but it is a pleasure in life for me, getting fit really improved my diet and cooking.
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>>42450075
>roiding
>for fucking THIS

kys desu senpai baka
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>>42450075
hello friend can you please plan a daily 3500 cal vegan meal plan 4 me and also make a comprehensive and healthy grocery list 2 sustain the meal plan tyvm pls help
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>>42450183
Beans
Broccoli
Lentils
Oats
Nuts

Basically eat like a racehorse, juice like one too.
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>>42450052
Because you like to be better than dyel's and dominate them on side? That's my main reason. I like to be better than others and love it when people look at me with this envy and full of hate face.

Steroids won't fix anything, so i don't see why you should use them to compensate. If you're beta and autistic you're still on steroids. Yes you can use tren, but not forever. There are still virgins on this boards who use tren, so that's that.

>>42450098
>Sadly I'm a hopeless romantic beta
So you're crusader?

why would you be a friend with girl anyway? That's indeed beta.

>>42450124
You already get matches?
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>>42450156
yeah i agree with you.
i mean i do enjoy food, but i just hate wasting time on it. When i see my tryhard friends who want to take lifting srs, they spend hours a day prepping food, cooking it, eating it. I hate that so much.

>>42450161
i just started

>>42450183
i dont understand whats so hard about this. You can literally eat nuts and oats until you puke, the shit has tons of protein and calories.

otherwise no i cant, im really bad at this stuff.
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ive got some letro powder, how do i dilute this shit
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>>42450075
roids hyperthropy your muscles, that includes your heart, and that's not a good thing, it leads to increased risk of health failure
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>>42450540
i know i sounded like an hypocrit when i said that, considering i took roids.

Its the only thing i truly regret about it.
But what can i say, i HAD to do it. It was a must, unfortunately.

>>42450539
i guess bacwater but dont quote me on this
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>>42449884
shit op

>>42450539
why did you buy raws if you had no plan for how to take said raws

everclear
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>>42450197
masT, how many cycles it took you to get this big and what was your best ever cycle?
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>>42450197
>You already get matches?
Women are too intimidated

>>42450539
Like the other guy said, everclear, although I use 100 proof
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>>42450780
because I'm a baka.
whats the 2nd best choice?
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>>42450976
diluting it is gonna have to be done in alcohol

you can also suspend it
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>>42450075
Wtf is up with his right shoulder. It is no where near as big as his left. It's like an illusion, it's throwing me off.
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>mfw test makes me want to fuck fat girls

wtf is wrong with me.
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>>42451029
I can't unsee it, it's like he has roid delts on one side but not the other lmao
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>>42451062
His left shoulder is at an angle, with shadows cast on its side and more flexe; his right shoulder is being raped by white lighting. How hard is it to understand?
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>>42451090
You heard it here first. Being in the shadow adds like 3 inches to your delt. It's not a difference in definiition, it's a straight difference in size.
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>>42451135
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>>42449899
>""white"" Americans
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>>42451029
He's trying to make is muscles stand out more by pushing down with one arm against the other which is pushing up.

The arm which is pushing up is activating more delt and the biceps also look more defined. If you were looking at his back, his triceps would probably look better on his right arm.

The lighting (shadows) is also really helping the left.
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>>42451219
Which is fine. There's nothing wrong with it, he just inherently doesn't understand posing, or how lighting works.

Moose you look "okay". Not good or big, but like someone described what roids did to a body to aliens, and then aliens didn't listen and gave a novice bodybuilder autism instead.
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>>42451219
>>42451090
i never understand how people get confused by stuff like this. I see it all the time, everywhere in the CBT. People get confused over shit like this and think the body is deformed or whatever, and im sitting here and i just know whats going on in the picture and why the muscles look the way they do.

How hard is it to understand the concept of flexed vs unflexed muscles, having your arms in different positions + lighting.

I always thought these people are joking but they are legit retarded.
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>>42451305
>but like someone described what roids did to a body to aliens, and then aliens didn't listen and gave a novice bodybuilder autism instead.
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>>42451315
Nah people understand what's occurring. They don't understand why you thought it makes for a picture you'd want to share.
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>>42451339
Why wouldn't he want to share a picture of his body? It's quite an impressive physique.
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Almost 6weeks in 400 deca, 500 test. Skin is getting oily and mild acne on my chest and shoulders.. not a huge boost in strength but im getting bigger on my shoulders and traps... and the hunger... now this is pod racing!
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>>42451361
Trip on Moosey. It's a physique. Qualifiers aren't really applicable here yet unless it's "average" or "mediocre". You could learn posing, balancing minerals, and how to bulk.
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>>42451330
lol that gif
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>>42451339
no they dont. If they knew whats occuring, they wouldnt ask such weird questions like >>42451029

The fact that they/ you dont understand whats going proves that they/you are too dyel to understand it. I can make my entire body, and each of my muscle groups look completely different depending on how i flex them.
Idk man you people are weird getting confused about that picture. Anons >>42451219 and >>42451090 got it right and in my mind its such a natural thing to understand.


also get #rekt
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https://www.instagram.com/norwegian_liftinggoddess/
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>>42451488
lol imagine caring this much about what internet strangers thought about your body. Literal debilitating insecurity. Whew lad prioritize your life. Steroids and internet compliments won't fix your self value, if you need to talk, don't come here.
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what kind of stuff do i have to inject to become pic related
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>>42451503
I'm Norwegian and I've never heard of her.

Not a huge fan of muscular girls, but she has a really nice face, too bad she's dyke, though.

How does a female steroid stack look like anyway? Moderate test and anavar?
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>>42451509
you confuse caring about someones opinion with simply having a discussion with random anons.

You belong to the same people who think having a discussion about veganism means getting into an argument where everyone is mad and triggered.
I couldnt give 2 flying fucks about you or the other anons, but i dont see the problem with responding to your posts and having a discussion with you guys.
The fact that you try this hard to convince everyone im insecure reeks of your own insecurity, dont forget that.
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>>42451548
Not everyone, just you! But we're not the ones posting half naked images on the internet, so the evidence kinda speaks for itself. To your credit, you're young and gay so it's expected. Good luck boyo!
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>>42449932
>pedo
She's clearly not a pre-pubescent girl, retard.
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>>42451581
somehow i just know this was posted by a virgin outcast.
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>>42451581
he actually has a point, sometimes you should just stop posting pretending you had something else to do
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>>42450970
50% alcohol works fine?
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>>42451541
var and winny for 99.9% of female roiders. sometimes SARMs too. the competitors will use hgh and extremely low doses of test/npp
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>>42451541
she's canadian. pretty sure she's just of norwegian muh heritage
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>>42449981
>15% of population is normal looking.

You weren't too good in school were you roidmonkey?
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>tfw think steroids are causing acne and making me sweaty
>finally come off a 2 year blast and cruise
>still have acne
>still sweaty
>losing some gains
lms if u cri everytiem
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what is best to stack with clen? yohimbine? or should i just go with plain ephedrine?
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>>42452316
heart medication
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>>42452316
it stacks good with permanent heart damage and shitting yourself while you are passed out
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>>42451032
Tren makes me want to fuck grannies. Roids are weird.
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>>42452327
>>42452337
but memes aside. other than heart medication what else
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>>42452424
well the actual best thing would be t3, but you could also just not use clen
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>>42452424
clen barely raises your BMR, just eat 2 less potatoes
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>>42451706
Not as well but it still holds

>>42452346
Stick with the grannies and leave the a v e r a g e gfs to me
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I'm running 350mg/wk of Masteron, 350mg/week of Tren Ace, and 420mg/week Test Prop. I am a LOT stronger but my lung capacity is for shit.
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So say some one has done their first test cycle and want to disregard their health to become as aesthetic as possible during their second blast what should they run?
I'm assuming something like 350 test and 700 tren and then maybe 600 mast or eq?
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>>42452548
Japan isn't fair, how the fuck is this women 31. I super liked the fuck out of her so hopefully she swipes right.
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>>42452625
Actually I think her profile says that she is a Korean that wants to make Japanese friends. What a waste.
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>>42452643
A v e r a g e
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> baby's first cycle
> 3rd injection
> warm up syringe
> insert into butt, inject butt juice
> pull out, needle is bent at the base
> wtf?

did the heat make the plastic loosen or what? the needle was straight before going in, but bent by the time it was out.
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>>42452878
maybe if you clip your nails it won't be bent next time
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>>42452878
picture was larger than intended
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>>42452910
maybe
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I have a doctors apt in a week, if I say im depressed think they'll give me brain meds?

>>42452878
Needles are pretty weak, if you wiggle theyll bend
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>>42449899
don't be sad anon, we're all gonna make it
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Alright so I know source talk isn't allowed but just level with me. Is it actually possible to find a source online, or do I have to do in person?
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>>42452930
I see. Thanks, Jerry. You and Mast have been a huge help in the past.

My hand was shaking a bit during injection despite slow, controlled breathing. That's still a lot better than the first time, I actually didn't hesitate at all, but by the time I had injected halfway, I started feeling light headed, very nauseous, and sweating all over. The second time, the panic symptoms were reduced by half, and the third time just now was nothing at all. I guess my panic symptoms have a half life of 1 injection.

That's how I know nobody who knows me well will ever suspect me of using steroids, they know I have a fear of needles. Even as a kid, I'd turn white as a sheet when getting a shot at the doctor's office.

>>42452643
Her profile also says she has no preference between male or female, worth a shot. So unreal that she's 31, asian women age very well.
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>tried to go to gym last night
>at gfs house
>her mum has a family friend over
>take gfs car
>reverse it from the garage
>straight into family friends car who fucking parked on the driveway despite there being plenty of room on the street
>gf comes out to see what happened
>I'm fucking furious at this point because the family friend is fucking retard who keeps doing this shit and I fucking hate her
>Start swearing and yelling
>throw my waterbottle on the ground
>cap shatters
>punch the wall and have my knuckles bleeding
>gf has never seen me genuinely angry before and later says she was scared of me because I acted very out of character.

Fucking women. I shield her from reality so hard.
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>>42449987
wow, somebody sure is projecting over here

4/10 bait, I actually replied
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>>42452930
>>42452930
>I have a doctors apt in a week, if I say im depressed think they'll give me brain meds?
Yes, bupropion is bretty gud and is supposed to have partition effect for bulking and cutting
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>>42453140
Nice autistic rage, i am starting to believe the "killing your gf" theory
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>>42453011
Literally everyone here uses an online source
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>>42453140
>not looking behind you while reversing
Sounds like you're the only retard, m80
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>>42453171
You wouldn't be pissed if some entitled cunt made the fucking retarded decision to park in your driveway causing you to crash instead being a normal person and parking on the street?
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>>42453172
I use a phone source bb
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>>42453058
>no preference between male or female
Lmao christmas cake gettin desperate

>>42453011
Yup
Probably should get it online even

>>42453140
You should learn how to drive

>>42453150
Are you tryin to trick me
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>>42453184
You don't look behind reversing onto your own driveway, I'm more focussed on not hitting the wing mirrors against the wall. You look when you're reversing onto the street.
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>>42453193
I wouldnt throw a tantrum and punch a wall, no
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>>42453211
Yes you would. Don't lie to me sonny.
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>>42453203
>Are you tryin to trick me
I would never hurt you bb
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>>42453223
You need help senpai, i don't want you destroying yourself and your life xoxo
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>>42453140
dude you're the one who hit the car. Always look in the direction you are driving.
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>>42453193
> blaming other people for your mistakes
> 2017
> I seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>42453226
Im onto your games
Nice try
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>>42453357
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>>42453313
>Make logical assumption that people don't park in the driveway
>focus on not taking wing mirrors off

>>42453330
It's like if some retard crossed the road in front of your car. You don't expect them to cross the road because that's not a reasonable assumption to make because a normal person wouldn't do that.
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>>42453501
what if a child would've been behind you?
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new baiku arriving in 2 weeks


hows the rest of blogposting fraud faggots going
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Holy shit crusader is a literal child. Dude I hope your gfs friend ass rapes your insurance premiums. You hit a parked a car. What a tool kek.
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>>42449937
Video chick is 7/10
Pic girl is 9.5/10
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>>42453501
>Make logical assumption
It is a logical assumption, but not all people think logically all the time. It is a physical possibility that a solid object could be blocking your path.

In fact, you need to assume each and every time that there could be something in your way.

>You don't expect them to cross the road because that's not a reasonable assumption to make because a normal person wouldn't do that.

Sooner or later, that is going to happen to you. You will be driving by a line of cars that are parallel parked on the side of the road...and then some idiot is going to come running out between one of those cars. You need to be the one expecting that, ready to brake if that happens.

You have a lone life ahead of you, the longer you drive, the more likely something is going to happen. Be ready for that physical possibility, be expecting it, and you will come out on top.
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>>42453501
Except you should always be paying attention to the road and watching for pedestrians. Even if a walker crosses in front of you illegally and you hit them, it's your fault. They're not in a car, and you are. How the fuck did you a license? Or a job even. Fuck you're an idiot.

>I swear I'm not retarded in real life
>hits a parked car and punches inanimate objects
>not autistic just religious
>drives worse than a woman and is extremely violent
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Does anybody here have any legit information on how much gear professionals use?

How much did they use in the golden age?

>legit information plz with citation
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>>42453011

Do a Google search for the words "Western Union" and the steroid of your choice.

Happy shopping.
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>>42453193

I look behind me before I back up because I'm not a dumb ass.
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>>42453826
I also expect guests to park in the driveway and not the street? Crusader is really dumb.
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>>42453842

Yeah, who the fuck asks their guests to park in the street?
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>>42453853
Inconsiderate and inhospitable children that bully women, crash vehicles and punch inanimate objects I suppose. But don't worry guys, he's only autistic on the internet kek
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>>42453140
you know you have posted some beta cringe shit before but man i really fucking hate youafter reading this
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>>42451541
Low dose EQ is sometimes on the plate. 200mg or so a week.
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>>42453140
Done similar shit. Was fucking pissed too
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>>42449937
This is exceptional beauty you beta. Have you actually been outside and met people? There's plenty of ugly girls out there. You don't have to be fat to be ugly.
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>>42453140
you went into an autisitic rage because someone parked in the driveway, the area people that are supposed to park? Then you punch the wall at your gf's house? If your gf is not a total beta cuck she will dump you in a couple days.
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test prop hurts ;(
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>>42453562
They'd be dead and it's they're retarded fault for being in someone elses driveway at 10:30 at night.

>>42453703
Totally correct however you cannot within reason expect to verify each and every assumption before completing an action. It's physically possible that there could have been a fuel line leak within the car and exploded upon ignition. But I'm not going to verify that because it's not likely.

My point is that it's not the drivers fault if someone crosses the road. It is the pedestrians fault.

>>42453720
Nigger what? So if some cunt throws a microwave from their balcony at me and I hit the microwave because I don't assume a microwave is going to be thrown, it's my fault because I'm the driver?

>>42453842
The driveway is big enough only for one car unlike some massive driveways. The family friend knows that the driveway is constantly used and is asked literally every single time to move her car because we need to do something but she continually parks in the driveway because she's a dumb cunt.
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>>42453986
People are meant to park in the street. At least that's common ettiquette where I live. I've never met a person who parks in someones driveway out of consideration that one of the house occupants may need to leave and you should not inconvenience them and yourself by parking your car in their driveway unless you will only be for a short period. The woman stayed for 3 fucking hours as if nobody would ever need to leave the house in 3 hours.
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>>42454061
How the fuck is a human walking the same as a microwave? Are you legitimately retarded or can you see how neither of those things are related? Legally drivers are always at fault when it comes to driver/pedestrian interaction.
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>>42454111
Hyperbole you fucking fag. Point made through exaggeration.
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>>42454171
You didn't make a point. You're just wrong. Pedestrians are literally never at fault if they're hit by a car.
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>>42454189
I'm making a moral/reason point of who's right and wrong and you've attempted to strawman into legal right and wrong

The driver is in no moral hazard because they hit the pedestrian and the pedestrian has a reason hazard.
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>>42454214
The morality of driving would be I'm operating a one ton death machine I should probably always be alert and not hit things, which you failed to do. If we're discussing logical fallacies then your false equivalency isn't a hyperbole through exaggeration. You're literally just stupid and shouldn't operate heavy machinery.
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>>42454245
Christ you're stupid.

Go back to the mircowave and the pedestrian examples and explain how the driver is immoral for not hitting things they did not make the reasonable assumption to hit.

Are you immoral if someone tries to suicide via moving car and you happen to be the driver?
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>>42454291
That's neither here nor there because I don't hit other people's cars and then blame them for it. In your specific example you are morally and legally at fault. In suicide by car, regardless of whose at fault yes I would feel guilt or shame for hitting a person because I was operating the vehicle and am well adjusted person without autism.
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>>42454291

Asshole, LOOK before you stomp on the fucking gas. Period.

All your defensive whining is just embarrassing.
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>>42454309
Then you need to reevaluate how you perceive morality if you'd feel remorse for something completely out of your control.

You may feel empathy for the person dying but feeling guilty for them killing themselves which you had no control over is retarded.
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>>42453058
that's not how a half life works
would not expect anymore from a /fraud/ though
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>>42454326
I don't feel the need to re-evaluate anything because I've never been in an accident or hit other people's possessions because unlike you I'm a responsible driver.
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>>42454334
Therefore everybody who's ever been in an accident or accidentally hit something with their car is then irredeemably irresponsible?
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>>42454349
You didn't accidentally do anything though, you were willfullly neglectful. Stop splitting. The world isn't in binaries. In the example in question, yours morally, legally or whatever else you are the only person at fault.
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>>42454368
Explain how I was willfully negligent?

Your ideas of fault are retarded. If I decide to put a road spike down on a road and someone drives over it, it's their fault because they were willfully neglectful, correct? I wasn't in any moral hazard despite knowing that I shouldn't put a road spike down. Correct?
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>>42454393
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>>42454393

You didn't look behind you before you set the car in motion, the number one thing EVERY driver is supposed to do. THAT is how you were willfully negligent.

Nobody is this much of a cunt. He is just arguing to argue. Fuck you, Crusader, you daft twat.
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>>42454401
I'm not going down with an autistic fight.
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>>42454409
Answer my question you cunt.
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haha this crusader is beta as fuck
i bet is gf is ugly
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>>42454449
Surprise!
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Never roided before, and i know clen isnt a roid, but im interested in doing a low dose clen/ec stack. In the future when im 25 I think i might mess with test e. Any recommendations?
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>>42454516
What would you like a recommendation for?
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>>42454527
Cycling for a beginner and how to offset the high bloodpressure that comes with clen
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>>42450539
The other dudes are right, everclear is the way to go
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>>42454581
Regarding the former, read the OP. Regarding the latter, don't use clen.
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>>42454409
Driving over a road spike isn't driving over a pedestrian or damaging property so this isn't really a helpful line of conversation.
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>>42451032
High test
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I'm 23 and too fat to start using any gear.
Asking if this is an okay plan

>lose weight (should hit goal by christmas)
>maintain until 25
>maintain a low-level cruise until physique goals -- 300/wk test e
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>>42453140
>>42453193
>>42453209

>drive car
>collide with stationary object
>blame stationary object

wat
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>>42454755
I'm not blaming the car. The car is inanimate. I'm blaming the dumb cunt who parks there car in a busy driveway after being repeatable told not to do so and when there is parking literally everywhere else.
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>>42454669
Why not clen?
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>>42454961
Shitty sides for little benefit.
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>>42453672
It is same grl
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>>42449944
you leave braphogs out of this
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>>42449899
Name?
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>>42455037
no it isn't

>>42449899
madison beer
>>42449937
jessica clements
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>>42455119
oh and the madison beer webm is of her when she was like 14
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>no source talk because you faggots wanna keep your balding secret club small

What's the fucking point then?
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>>42455133
>that pic
kek
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>>42454061
>have to ask her literally every single time to move her car
>for some reason don't expect her to park in the driveway like... literally every single other time
come on nigga
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>>42455134
No source talk because Crusader Diary doesn't need to be overshadowed.
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>>42452346
>Tren
kek, you fell for the nandrolone jew. the metabolites turn you fag

>300/wk test e
subq 125mg max for cruise - that'll put you above 1100mg/dl
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>>42449884
newfag here
How to make my doctor prescribe me clen? It's cheap af in my country. Fake asthma or what?
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>>42455133
>My anthem: Young love
What a cunt, I love this
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https://soundcloud.com/atreyofficial/dark-prince
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>>42454332
Is that not the concept of a half life?

> caffeine has a half life of 6 hours
> I drank coffee containing 100mg of caffeine at noon
> at 6pm, I now have 50mg of caffeine still in my body doing it's thing
> by 12 at nigh, there is still 25mg of caffeine


That was the joke:
> 1st time pinning, body manifests 100% panic symptoms
> 2nd time pinning, literally half the level of panic symptoms
> 3rd time, eh I feel fine. Hand was a bit shaky during 2 minutes of slow, steady injecting.
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The fuck is epistane and why does my roommate want to do it with me. Is it safe to do at 21?
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Dumb question. Does Nolva just prevent aromatization or does it also help rebound test levels?
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>>42455467
Nolva does neither. Nolva binds to the receptor instead of estrogen.
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>>42455232
>subq 125mg max
thanks, i'll change plans
I'll still buy an AI, but is it common to need it on a cruise?
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After about 2 weeks of BPC-157 gf says she is noticing a difference in her digestion. Less pain, less bloating but not completely gone. She had curry last night and said she didn't shit her guts out like she usually does.
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>>42455587
No one gives a shit.
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>>42455516
So it's basically just to prevent bitch tits?
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>>42455532
subq aromatizes less than im, run trt/hcg for 90 days and get bloods. The hcg will create an initial spike in nip sensitivity, but it'll balance out.
Have the ai on hand, they're harsh on lipids so use if necessary.
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>>42455602
I don't really care m8

>>42455612
Precisely.
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This kid takes over 150mg of dbol a day with 1200mg of testosterone. He's been on both for 2 months... And he looks like this.

You can't make this shit up.
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>>42455685
What did he look like before?
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>>42455133
Fucking roasties
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>>42455682
Then you wouldnt reply or even post
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>>42455467
>>42455612
rule #1 in fraud is to read the fucking wiki
rule #2 in fraud is to not listen to crusader

he was right about the aromatization however, what nolva does is it stops the estradiol from binding to certain receptors (the most useful one being the titties) but it does not prevent aromatization. your estradiol is still skyhigh even with nolva. again, read the wiki

but it very much helps rebound test levels, that's the whole point of using it (or toremifene) during PCT. the tl;dr version is that your body looks at certain estradiol receptors to know whether it needs to stop producing more test (because estradiol is too high) or start producing more (because of the opposite). there's also some research indicating that it actually just helps produce more testosterone, period

read the wiki

>>42455685
>can't make this shit up
yes you can, because you did
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>>42455699
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>>42455728
Then why did you reply?

>>42455737
Lord above.
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Who is this stickman?
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>>42454621
>>42450970
>>42450780


followed your advice with dissolving letro in everclear and wtf its not dissolving
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>>42455794
what concentration? it won't dilute at more than a couple mg per ml
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>>42455800
2.5mg/ml
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>>42455800
Yeah, this.

I had 2 grams of letro and had to use half a liter of rubbing alcohol and wait a few days for it to fully dissolve at 4mg/mL.
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>>42455753
I never claimed I don't give a shit dummy.
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>>42455822
should be okay really. shake the shit out of it and go to bed, should all be dissolved by the time you get back to it
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>>42455848
>No one gives a shit.
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>>42455824
o shit baka. rubbing alcohol? KEK
is that healthy?
btw i finally started to get it dissolve, its just taking awhile
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>>42455852
We don't care about your gf. I care about you being a fucking idiot always.
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This is my results after 12 weeks of test 250 2ml per week. Put on 17lbs. Not really worth it considering I've probably lowered my natural test levels permanently.
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>>42449884
More like this
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>>42455866
You're confusing anon.

>>42455882
You're not giving us a lot when you don't have a before picture.

Steel wool is also the nigger of dish cleaners.
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>>42455882
>mlp cup
>mirror selfie in a tiny, dirty ass mirror in your kitchen
what the fuck

also those look like fatceps
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>>42453140
Retards like you and Benoit are the reason this shit is illegal
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>>42455910
No, baseball is the reason it's illegal.

Folding chairs should be illegal if Benoit's case is to be taken seriously.
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>>42455918
Lol Joe Biden was mad because he just couldn't compete
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>>42455918
Cold War politics.
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>>42453140
you've got a very fragile masculinity there friendo. just admit you don't know how to drive.
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>>42449899
me
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So how much of my inner fatass can I let loose if I start taking HGH, say 6-8 IUs a day?
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>>42455898
At least he gives a picture.

You've been on how much Tren for how long? Show us yourself.

>>42455882
Decent size arms, do a cut tho.
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does anyone here have ADHD?

im about to do my first cycle, 500mg test-e only, but i really need my ritalin IR.

i take around 4-5x 10mg each 3hours apart.

what precautions should i take? im afraid i might end up having a heart-attack or so, the ritalin sometimes does elevate my blood pressure/BPM... so what do i do? :S
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>>42456272
N-no
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>>42452878
>warm up syringe
How? In the microwave? kek. Just stick the vial between your thighs while you shitpost on 4chan.
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>>42456351
can i shove it up my ass?
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>>42456320
Cmon man, I'm genuinely curious.
I don't care if you are a dyel, I am one as well.
We all start somewhere, its the end goal that matters.

>>42456351
>2017
>not microwaving for those extra radiation gains

>>42456405
Its called pinning the glute you neanderthal
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>>42456300
thats a very good question.
you definitely want to be concerned about the anabolic and stim combo
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>>42456300
>>42456517
thanks, i hope someone has a proper answer.
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>>42455083
No
Braphogs are disgusting.
Best butt is muscle butt.
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I'm coming down off my cycle and I just met up with an ex last night. She said she'd call and hang tonight but she didn't.

I think it's my hormonal profile on the fritz but it hit me hard. I'm not even that interested in her anymore. What do I do, bros?
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>>42456538
ya sorry I really don't know a whole lot about this.
but I do know that taurine is great at lowering bpm or bp. Maybe thats something that could be used?
I'm no expert on this subject though
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>>42456626
Get her pregnant.
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>>42456300
Get a BP monitor and check to see if you're hypertensive on your ritalin. If not, you're probably okay, particularly on 500mg.
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>>42456645
she's sterile. chemo
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>>42456658
Well then she's just playing around. Don't take it personally. She needed a pick me up to feel wanted and you were the go to guy last night. Small beans dude.
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>>42456669
Thanks. Maybe I'll just tren until I don't give a damn.
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>>42451831
>You weren't too good in school were you roidmonkey?
Enough to grant me a bachelor and pre-master diploma.

mad?

>>42450830
That pic was exactly after 2 cycles + 1 cruise.

Test + mast.

Full Steroid history:

Cycle 1: test + mast
Cycle 2: test p(kickstart) + test
Cruise: low test + mast
Blast: Dbol + test + mast
Cruise: low test + mast
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>>42456434
I'm way too frightened of being doxed given what I've shared on here.
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>>42456798
just post your body without face, no ones gonna dox you lol.
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>>42456626
It's because she didn't want to be awkward about it at that moment.

She's your ex for a reason


>>42456806
The rules of fraud:

No face pics = ugly
No body pics = dyel

He is both so no pics
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>>42456776
You use Mast E right?

>>42456806
That's exactly what someone who wants to dox me would say.
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>>42456798
>>42456806
This, we dont need your face.

Just post body.
Hell I've posted face and had no issues.
We even know what MasT's face looks like and I doubt people bother him.
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>>42456818
ill dox u and suck that dick daddy, be my doctor hubby
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>>42456818
We will dox you either way so don't be a pussy, faggot.
>>42456815
Correct, but now he's ugly, dyel and a coward. We knew this though.
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Going to stack test e and dbol for the first time

what can i expect?
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>>42456818
Yes, i don't like to be a pincushion.

>>42456819
BUT WHAT IF someone sees his hairy belly button and recognize it, or his some homosexual recognize his butcrack from earlier experience with it
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>>42456845
Gyno

>>42456849
Kek like he doesnt look like generic dyel#67272
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About 3 weeks into Ligandrol and chill 10mg a day and its going great
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>>42456845
Good mass, lots of water bloat.

If you're prone to gyno I hear you're gonna find out quick from the dbol. I'm luckily not and my estrogen was out of control at 200pg or some crazy shit, too. Use your fuckin' AI.

I'd also suggest using TUDCA if you're not planning on it.
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I am now in my 3rd week of a 300mg/week test E cycle and since week 1 I am extremely bloated. Everyday life is uncomfortable as my stomach constantly feels like its going to explode. It's covered in veins that I've never seen before and looks like an alien is about to come out from it at any moment. My pecs have always been larger than my stomach, but now it looks like I'm pregnant- the top part of my abdomen protrodes much more than my pecs. At work we wear a tshirt as part of the uniform and it's just embarassing. Scale weight has jumped 3kg since starting test, but waist has gone from 79.5 cm to 84.5 (!!). BF has remained the same. Is there anything I can do? I'm drinking around 4 litres of water a day, watching my sodium intake, eating super clean. I'm on Aromasin 12.5mg E3D.
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I hear that HGH is good for the skin. Will it prevent or help heal stretch marks?
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>>42457088
Jesus fucking Christ

never going to roid
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>>42457104
Fairly sure HGH would increase collagen synthesis which would help. Not sure though.
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>>42457146
That's my thought. Thinking about talking in hypotheticals to a cosmetic dermatologist about HGH + laser treatment.

Then again, that's really fucking expensive.
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>>42457146
Is the typical hgh dose 4iu/day for 5 days w/ 2 days off? Because at that dosage it looks like pharma's going to run me $685 for about a month and a half of treatment unless I go international, which'd be $250 (I think).
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>>42457088
Check your bloods faggot.
>>
Just been to endo for the first time and she's ordered a full panel. One question - wtf is a T level of "16"? I can only find measures in the hundreds so it must be a different measurement.
>>
Been away for about 8mo boys,

Requesting updates on Kahuna, Chem, Bimbo and ESTP - haven't seen them in the last few threads I've browsed.

They had the best stories
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>>42456854
Where to you think we are?
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>>42456904
Good, I had 8 weeks on LGD4033 and MK677 and enjoyed it.
Should've run a test base though
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>>42457243
I'm in Limbo.
Big for normies, small for people into lifting.

You are the definition of huge and goal body.
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>>42457214
Bound Test I imagine. There's free test and bound test. Free test is usually in the hundreds where bound test is in the tens.

>>42457229
Kahuna is a recovering addict
Chem is doing well
Bimbo is most likely kill
ETSP got bullied into oblivion
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>>42457272
>Big for normies
I am always wondering what people think when they see me. Is it like when i would see ronnie coleman irl?

All people react really overdone/excessive when they see me. But I see me as myself as dyel.
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>>42457353
Strong BDD brah
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>>42457353
"Fuck he's huge"
"What a freak"
"Steroids"
"Mirin"

Either one of these.
>>
bois, todays workout was pretty shit

started with ohp like always on second push day and after 6 sets my delts were fucking fried. Same thing happened last week. I couldn't even stand with my arms hanging by themselves because it was too painful. I had to hold on to things to take the pressure off my delts. The pain is coming from lateral part, not front. I was doing nothing for almost 30 minutes becasue i wanted to do closegrip bench and as soon as i was kind of ready someone took the last free bench.

Is there any connection between being on gear and delt soreness? I never pinned my delts and this shit never happened before.
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>>42457490
Yes there is a big connection between gear and delts.
Give me a second I'll look it up.
If I'm not mistaken its due to the extra weight and your tendons not being able to keep up.
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>>42457501
but im using same weights as before
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>>42455882
>Permanent
Not really.
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>>42457522
Then it never got enough rest.
If it happened last week chances are you overdid it and the same happened now but at a faster rate.
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>>42453140
>Out of character
Like fuck it is
Top kek
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>>42457542
wait, maybe it's because i've hit laterals hard on monday. Is it because i've got elevated muscle protein synthesis? I never tought about it

shit, i think i will have to switch to some sort of split. Im at the gym 5 times a week anyway
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>>42450241
>Just started

You have been on /fraud/ for months.
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>>42457574
I isolate shoulders on just leg day to avoid shoulder issues.

I do a split and see plenty of gains.
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>>42457639
post your split, i need some inspiration
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>>42457682
Day1: Chest+Tri
Day2: Back+Bi
Day3: Legs+Shoulders
Day4: Bi+Tri
Day5: Cardio+Corr

Everyday involves some light core work, with Day5 being a long day for core.
No rest days, when Day5 ends you'll go back to Day1 the next day.
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>>42457682
I do entire workout on the cable machine
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>>42457773
Post big lifts
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>>42457830
Day1: bench (barbell+dumbell), cable flies, tricep pulldowns, dips
Day2: deadlifts, face pulls, shrugs, pullups, curls
Day3: squats, lunges, overhead press, lateral raises
Day4: speaks for itself
Day5: Crunches, planks, situps, woodchoppers

There is a lot more, but I'm posting from work and I can't remember half of it until i hit the gym.
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>>42457172
For what?
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>>42457884
i would appreciate if you could post full workout with set-rep ranges later
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>>42457963
I'll post the full shedule in 3-4 hours then.

Keep in mind this schedule is made to my needs and wants, do adjust to your own preference and don't follow it blindly.
>>
Just did my first shot. Holy fuck was I nervous. Literally had to use two hands to steadily insert the needle. I didn't feel a thing though. Had a little blood afterwards.
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>>42458104
Good job. Enjoy the pip.
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>>42458104
i went full parkinson while doing first pin and i was literally stanting in front of my computer with my pants down and bare ass for 20 minutes before i finally pushed the needle in
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Is mk-677 any good? Any brahs stacked this with gear?
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>>42458307
Lmfao, was it easier the second time?
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>>42458307
Actually laughed. Thanks anon.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cShbHbQfn8k
>5'2
WHEN
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>>42458344
you know how creatine has been scientifically proven to do good things but you take it and you don't ever realize its impact?

yeah that's also mk677, just with different benefits and a very noticeable hunger increase
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>>42456545
>>
Ok, this is my first post in /fraud/

Basicly, I've had my ups and down in fitness during the last 6 years.

This time I am on the good track, but with football physiotherapist friend of mine who is suggesting me to go on a test cycle later on

I am getting back in shape atm, and he told me that I should wait at least 6 months more before I pin myself since my tendons might be too weak right now and i might injure myself, since muscles will develop very rapidly and during heavier lifts my tendoms might snap.
What do you guys think about it? has anyone here had those problems?

Working out 5-6 times a week now, with a lot of mobility and stretching, natty
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>>42458307

It's easier to pop the needle in quickly like you're throwing a dart.
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>>42458513
There is alot of truth to this.
During alot of heavy lifts your muscles will pull on your tendons.

Thats all fine, but if you attach a big chain to a small string and start hanging heavy stuff on it you can't expect the string to hold it.

Do your 6 months, then juice if you feel like it and keep weights at a happy medium with a good amount of volume.
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>>42457682
Monday: Shoulders and upper chest
Tuesday: back and bis
Wednesday: Legs and core
Thursday Chest and Tris (Hypertrophy day)
Friday: Back and Bis
Saturday: Heavy Chest and Tris
Sunday: Legs and core
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>>42458538
Thanks m8, I'll keep it in mind.

Is there anything else that I should consider taking right now that will push my progress

currently only on occasional ECA and creatine, but this month was so crazy and I am flowing on my good results, yet I am hungry for more progress.

in short: what you recommend during those 6 months before test to improve those workouts?
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>>42458346
>Lmfao, was it easier the second time?
i tought it would be but you still remember first time so it's similar. I would say it takes couple of pins before it becomes a normal thing

>>42458352
>Actually laughed
it is funny now but back then i was freaking out and thinking about aborting this whole fraud thing
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>>42458538
that's not the only problem, test also inhibits collagen synthesis, so tendons issues aren't limited to newbies. adding quick strength gains to basically unused tendons however definitely compounds the issues
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>>42458612
Just be consistent, never fail your training schedule, make a steady habit of going.

Get your diet in check and train for form.

If you can keep that up for 6 months straight CAREFULLY consider it.
Thats all I can think of really.
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>>42457372
What else is new?

>>42457773
Why so less cardio. Weren't you cutting?
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Bimbo's waiting room

>>42457347
etsp always comes and goes
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>>42458701
Oh sorry, to elaborate:
Everyday adds 20 mins Hiit threadmill with some incline.

Cardio day is 30 mins of running, core excersizes, 45 mins of stationary bike.

My schedule comes naturally to me but I always forget stuff when writing it down.
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>>42457919
E2

Maybe your aromasin is garbage or you are not taking enough.
>>
Speaking about cardio, im bulking right now while on test and im doing cardio 4 times a week but i eat the amount of calories i burned. Should i skip cardio or everything is in order?
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>>42449932
she looks 25. are you the pedo?
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>>42458741
ALWAYS do your cardio you dummy.
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>>42449937
>ass is probably longer than it is wide.
>ass is probably flat.
>tits are small and hang outwards. not really attractive
>arms skinny fat. bitch doesn't walk more than to and from her car.
>temp freckles from being in the sun. not necessarily someone i'd want to reproduce with
>waist isn't as tight as it could be. making the cage and upper area look more wide, but not necessarily squared.
>actually has eyebrow hair... +1 point
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>>42458750
that's Madison Beer when she was 14, you pedo
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>>42458741
>these kind of people you get advice about steroid usage
>>
>>42458721
I hate HITT, but it;s the most effective cardio for fat loss.

>>42458741
I wouldn't do HITT cardio during bulk.

>>42458750
Why are you fucking faggots(that are mostly mid twenties) even attracted to children like that. They have zero sexual experience, probably bite you dick of with their braces. You should be on a way other stage of life so there is not much in common. They have bodies like a fucking toothpick.

Are you fucking raped by you Uncle when you were younger? Missed something in your childhood?

It really boggles my mind how most of you manage to stay alive when you look at yourself in the mirror
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>clean up diet, no processed foods
>25% of calories ed come from alcohol
Fuck

>>42458875
Mast confirmed granny fucker
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>>42458307
Know that feel too well anon, did my second pin last night.
>Michael J Fox levels of hand shaking
Finding that ventroglute took forever and I've wasted shitload of alcohol swabs.
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>>42458997
why are you reswabbing lol
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>>42458875
>Missed something in your childhood?
Yes
>It really boggles my mind how most of you manage to stay alive when you look at yourself in the mirror
Hey, my too!
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>>42459019
>Think I found exactly where that ventroglute site is
>Swab, let it dry
>Get ready to pin
>Take another look in the mirror
>Nope, that site doesn't look right according to internet pics
>Better try palpating the muscle again while abducting my leg sideways
>Reswab, let it dry
Re-do it x3
>Finally satisfied with location, then jab that fucker in.

In hindsight, if someone saw what I was up to for that hour, they'd think it's some fucked up naked plyometrics in front of mirror.
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>>42453140
Remember when i said she's scared of you and you're going to hurt her.

Things are moving along nicely, dipshit.

Also, if someone 'retarded' continually does dumb shit and you dont expect it and plan for it, guess what, you're a fucking retard too.
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>>42459019
i did same thing too at first. When you are pinning first time you can't think clearly. Alcohol swab buff fade away before you decided to pin so you have to apply the buff again
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>>42453140
>gf has never seen me genuinely angry
lmao i can already see how you guiyz arguing. Sometimes you need to show her some aggression to show her who's in charge.

After the aggression there will be aggressive sex. They love it.

>>42458908
I feel like shit when i drink on steroids. I never liked alcohol much, makes me too sleepy.

Was easy to cut that shit out.
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So i'm 19 and been looking into steroids for my first show. I don't really care about the consequences except for the impotence part and i can't seem to find anything about it online. Should i be fine if i get my sperm checked beforehand?
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>>42459136
bank some sperm and then your g2g, You're not going to become infertile anyway, it's vastly blown out of proportion.
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>>42449884
>>42449884
Anyone pin under 25? I'm 24 and I gotta know what it's like. What are some experiences you guys have had, I mostly want the bad ones if any
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>>42459209
I not only was a manlet, I am now an overcompensating manlet with a lust look lanklet blood.

Jokes aside, its good experience but I've had some nasty "test flu" and some terrible gyno flares I've had to reverse.

In the end the pros outweigh the cons for me.
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>>42459126
Tbh I think I may be an alcoholic
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>>42459379
>>>>think
nigga you've been psmfing for years because you can't stop drinking for a week or two
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>>42459379

I also think you're struggling with it. Have you tried to cut back or take breaks from it?
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>>42459298
I'm terrified of gyno, I just got rid of my puffy nipples and I'm normal. How long did it take to reverse it and If I can take anti prolactin will it prevent it entirely?
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>>42459379
Cut that shit out and stick to a good diet for once.
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>>42459488
I convert to estro like a bitch so my AI was to low.

Reversal took less then 2 weeks.

Prevention should stop everything.
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funny story, so I'm on a decently high dose of trest and I need 25mg of asin ed and I still feel a few small signs of high estro

so I decided two days ago to just say fuck it and go yolo on the asin and see how long I can go without redosing, took 75mg in one go.

the next day my nipples were literally 20% the size they were the day before. joints immediately went to shit, wrists in particular hurt like a motherfucker

now on the third day of completely crashed estro and even my 50mg of trest ed isn't making it go back up. about to get my leftover dbol and eat a few just to recover
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I fucking hate rest days, makes me feel like shit. It doesn't rest me at all, just fucks me up mentally.

Is there a way I can work out every single day? Some sort of a bro split.
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>>42459298
>>42459488

it buffles my mind how anyone manages to get legit gyno.

Literally just pop asin when your nips get puffy or itchy.
Someone would have to point a gun to your head and tell you not to take asin or else he'll shoot, thats the only way.
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>>42459828
i feel the same but in my case lifting is literally the only thing im doing

i wish i could go to the gym every day but my gym is pretty small and there are shorter opening hours during weekend + it's heavily crowded
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>>42459828

You could always do your cardio on off days. e.g. weight training on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, then cardio on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.
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>>42459840
your nipples are itchy so you take 6.25mg of asin. you wakeup the next day and your nipples are still itchy. do you take more or has the asin not done its job yet? well whatever, 6.25mg again. next day, still itchy. repeat same process with 12.5mg

couple days later, itchy again. fuck around with dosing e3d, not good enough. go down to eod, not good enough. suddenly it's 2 weeks into your first test+dbol kickstarter cycle and you've just started finally getting the handle on your AI dosage (and remember the estro is still fluctuating from test not being at its peak yet) but you have nice titties already. oops

t. speaking from experience. people who can get away with 6.25mg on pin days or some stupid shit like that don't know how hard it is to get to the perfect amount of ai when you aromatize like a woman
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>>42459930
>cardio
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>>42459776
How is needing 25 mg of asin ED even possible? Does trest really aromatize that much? That can't be worth it
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>>42459945
>people who can get away with 6.25mg on pin days or some stupid shit like that don't know how hard it is to get to the perfect amount of ai when you aromatize like a woman

I take 0.25mg arimidex eod on 50mg dbol ed and 500 mg test /wk with not even any acne forming. Is it safe to say that I am not very estro sensitive?
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Anyone here watch Dave Crosland's YouTube channel? He has a new video ("interview with a steroid addict") with some guy who's been on pretty high doses for about ten years and super irresponsible about it.

The shit coming out of this guy's mouth is incredible.

>>42459948

>not doing even light cardio

Enjoy your heart problems and daily struggle with having stairs as an arch-nemesis.
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>>42459396
You can drink alot and still be at a deficit on pmsf though

>>42459475
I have, but not very successfully

>>42459507
Its the ultimate empty calorie too baka
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>>42459985
>Enjoy your heart problems and daily struggle with having stairs as an arch-nemesis.

I could go outside now and run for an hour without any issues. My health is fine, I just can't be bothered doing cardio as it's boring af and means that I have to spend even more money on food.
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>>42459945
fair enough but i aromatize alot too. I need 5mg ED on a cruise dose
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>>42459974
it really really does, and it's really really worth it. you gotta get the AI right super fast though, because it's S T R O N G
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Y'all think the best way to dose mtren would be measure out 10mg and add it to 10ml of oraplus shake it up and take 1ml?
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>>42460313
How does it compare to test? I've read it's something like 12x as anabolic - sound about right?
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>>42460316
you should mix all you have at once (or as much as you're going to take for your full cycle) but yes that would work fine. it's just a suspension though so make sure you shake well every time you dose it

>>42460337
I don't like the anabolic ratings but yeah, trest is probably the strongest compound there is atm, and you don't even need a test base. both the strength and mass gains are absolutely insane
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>>42460459
wtf i always thought when someone says "im taking trest"

he means test and tren.

Red pill me on this compound.
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>>42460642
>>42460642
>>42460642
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I need to check my e2 again becasue i've upped ai dose. It will be 12 days tommorow. Am i good to go or should i wait bit longer?
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