Why Are Leftist DYEL?

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fucking drumphies better get out before i get mad

>>42431837
>Voted Trump in the most recent election
>Published research author
>545 lb. deadlift

Why are ripped blacks all leftist then?

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>>42431860
who makes these?

is it this guy?

>>42431873
95% of eggnogs are leftist, fit or not

Chad is too busy getting pussy to care about politics

>>42431837
Leftists only like the people that lose.

>>42431837
>RightWing

You mean "normal"?

I'm more centrist, but it seems like when people say "leftwing" nowadays what they mean is "virtue signaling pink-haired rioter", and when they say "rightwing" they just mean "everyone who doesn't look like Mimi from The Drew Carrey Show".

>>42431873
>>42431900
there's a difference between "leftist" and "democrat voter who literally only votes for the party because of handouts"

there was an article in some magazine that I can't remember after obama got elected where they addressed the idea that "the country was moving more to the left" and pointed out that white people don't really understand that only whites associate the democratic party with "the left"

other races generally are centrist or outright conservative, but vote democrat based on one or two issues (blacks = welfare, hispaniards = immigration, muslims = insanity, etc.)

>>42431837
This is hardly surprising.

The political right tends to place more value on roles and definitions defined by tradition while the political left tends to place more value on roles and definitions defined by a person's desires. The traditional "masculine man" is a burly, muscular figure, but obviously not every man agrees. On the right it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree, you're not a "man" if you're not muscular. On the left you don't really care what a "man" is.

Moderately solid science, though.

This coming from a nearly-radically liberal scientist who probably is in better physical shape than the OP.

>>42431837
Because they have never worked for something in their life and don't want to learn how

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>>42431837
Why are Trumptards obese?

>>42431966
>this

Even the most adamant anti-abortion blackie chan will vote leftist simply because of gibs and tribal loyalty.

>>42432062
High BMIs = high muscle mass

>>42431837
Women tend to prefer the left while men tend to prefer the right. It's not so much that leftists are DYEL, but that DYEL are more likely to bend over backwards to any female, which includes pretending to be a leftist in the hopes of getting pussy.

Don't worry though, at some point all of them give up and become MRA/MGTOW neckbeards.

>>42431837
Who here /liftwaffe/?

>>42432062
Nigga anything below 0.95 is inadmissible

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>>42431837
??????

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>>42432086
Yeah i'm sure that's it

>>42432088
14 sets
88 reps

>>42431871
And how do you justify the rambling and golf visits and hypocrisy?

Trump is reprehensible regardless of politics.

>>42432129
Every US election has been right or left, red or blue, a or b for a long time. I don't really need to justify Trump's behavior beyond, Hillary is an absolute cunt and I'd rather have a president who is verbally offensive than some walking pussy pie catering to the pink hair dyed faggotry that seems to be making up the youth of today.

>>42432168
That's fair. I can understand reluctantly voting for him, it's the actual supporters who are just... So dumb

>>42431966

Hahaha this is true

Remember that one time they tried to pass gay marriage, IN FUCKING CALIFORNIA, and it was handily defeated, only 10 or so years ago?

People have short short memories

Democrat = irrational smorgasbord party of all competing interests not white/male/middle class

>>42432193
I actually supported Ron Paul, but other than that I haven't liked a candidate in a long time.

>>42432129
you just described every politician

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We're weak, huh? Guess what repugnantans, I've been doing smith squats. Care for a cake before I hand your patooty to you, mister?

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>>42432222
Damn nice quads my dude.

I also voted for based Stein desu

>>42432062
>>42432105
blacks/mexicans live in majority red states

>>42432129
>>42432193
t. sub 1pl8 bench

>>42432168

Eh, I despise the pink hair faggotry as much as you do, but I think the majority of that was just lip service after Bernie pulled her so far to the left. I find her and Bill to be slime balls personally, but I never had any doubt in their ability to assemble a mostly centrist, pragmatic team of people who knew how to carry out their jobs.

>>42431860
Hello AlphaDestiny

>>42432105
massive amounts of blacks and hispanics live there, both of which have an insanely high obesity rate compared to white americans.

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>tfw socially conservative but still vote democrat most of the time anyway

U mad faggots?

>>42432275
See, I disagree with that principle. I would rather someone wear their sliminess on the outside and be unapologetic about it than someone who is corrupt like Billary, but plays the great pretender on every issue.

The only thing really disappointing about Trump's campaign is that he wasn't able to turn "Grab America By The Pussy / Grab Life By The Pussy" into a working slogan.

>>42431837
I am no chad, but when the latinos at my gym turn on their music for everyone to hear, i get pretty righty, desu

>>42431837
Vice reads like some NAZI propaganda leaflet nowadays

>>42431837
Eh I'm a leftist but most of the leftist I've met online are DYEL or disgusting. Then again the hardcore gymbros I know are very apolitical or extremely casual with their politics.

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>>42431837
I wouldn't get too worked up about it, anon.

>tfw #SwoleLeft
nazis watch out

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If you're "Right Wing" in the sense that you genuinely despise the social degeneration of our world you literally have to be swole.
Anyone who claims to be a Fascist, NatSoc, even "Alt-right", whatever the fuck that means, and is a skinnyfat piece of shit is completely missing the point.
The strength of your volk is predicated on the strength of the individuals it's comprised of.
If you're weak, lazy, and undisciplined then I have nothing but pity for you.

>>42434358
I don't think picking heavy things up is the eruption of the beast of prey Spengler had in mind.

>>42431837
I used to post on /pol/; for all their posturing they're all a bunch of limp wristed effeminate betas.

I agree with a lot of what they say but many there are incredibly hypocritical and also take things too far.

>>42431966
Yeah, a lot of Asians vote Democrat because of their stance on immigration.

>>42434392
Its funny because I know plenty of asians in the UK who voted for brexit because they felt it would be better for their family to emigrate, because currently we bend over backwards for the EU but are strict for others.

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>>42431837

>>42434367
Likely not. However, it is certainly a start. I'm going to trust the strength of someone who consistently goes to the gym and develops an athletic physique over someone who lays around watching John Oliver while eating kale chips and lazily jerking off their "gender non-binary life partner".

>>42434451
I don't know dude I've met some pretty retarded gymbros. I don't see why the latter is any better than the former who spends his time snorting coke off Stacey's tits and hasn't picked up a book since Highschool.

Then again what do I know, I'm a leftycuck/

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>>42434451
Yes, because there is no one on the right that is morbidly obese and sits around watching fox news and fucking their sister. Those blinders fit you nicely bro

>>42434465
oops meant I don't see why the former is any better than the latter.

>>42434377
For every good poster on /pol/ there is 100 bad ones.
It's edgy and attracts a lot of kids who feel they've been slighted by society at large.
It's pretty much what you'd expect an anonymous politics board on a South Sudanese carp fishing forum to be like, still, there is sometimes a good point made buried under all of the BBC bait and Aussie shitposters.

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>>42434451
>I'm going to trust the strength of someone who consistently goes to the gym and develops an athletic physique
totally accurate portrayal of your average american conservative

>>42431837
>2017
>doesn't realize that political parties are set up to keep society down

Never gunna make it

>>42431837
>Why are leftists dyel?

Leftists don't like anything where an individual is expected to work hard if they want to achieve results.

>>42434469
I don't care for uncle joe and his cousin/wife any more than you do my guy.
They are just as disgusting to me as a leftist, both useless and unmotivated.
I have no delusions about the makeup of the "Right wing" that said, I'm not a republican nor an obese Wehraboo.
I care about the fate of my home and my race. It's in my best interest to be in shape so I will be, I will also encourage anyone who shares my beliefs to do the same while looking down on those who choose to be slaves of excess and vice.

>>42434487
Read
>>42434528
The "average american conservative" can get fucked, I don't care for their gluttony any more than you do.

>>42431837

It's interesting how NOT being a Marxist so obviously makes you an asshole in the minds of these people.

>>42434494
>being 12 years old
woahhhhh bro that's like, super fucking deep, and stuff...

>>42434537
One key identifier is when they start shit-talking the midwest or rural communities. Karl Marx did the same thing in the communist manifesto.

I worked in LA for six years. Plenty of stupid fucks over there.

>>42434465
the retarded gymbro doesn't work actively in the destruction and genocide on the world population(except nignogs) in favor of hook nosed monsters.

>>42434572
Pretty much every aspect of the "modern left" is rooted in Marxist doctrine.
The promulgation of oppression politics is Marxist to its core.
The oppressed black man is being held down by the oppressive white.
The oppressed woman is being held down by the man.
The oppressed transgender is being held down by "cisgenders".
Sound familiar?
The oppressed prole is being held down by the oppressive bourgeoisie.
All of the class based dogma stands only to push us into the correct conditions for a revolution. That was always the goal of the Marxist. They thrive on controlling an oppressed class.
Tell someone that someone else is the cause of the "immense suffering" they feel every day, and tell them this enough times, you will get revolution. The problem is there's always someone a lot fucking smarter at the head of it all and they can't wait to gain power at the hands of a bunch of useful fucking idiots.

>>42434668
>discourses of "oppressed/oppressor" starts with Marx
Wow someone knows absolutely nothing about political philosophy.

>>42434689
Where did I write that? I pointed out that the oppressor/oppressed dichotomy is one of the fundamentals of Marxist doctrine, not that they invented the fucking concept.
Contribute something useful instead of harrumphing about a fictitious argument you seem to think I made.
Captcha: Ausfahrt, something you should do if you just popped in to be smarmy.

>>42434732
You said it was "rooted" in Marxist doctrine but the discourses of oppressor and oppressed are so much more general and older than Marx that to try and draw up a direct connection between "modern left" politics and Marx considering the content Marx gave to this particular form is much more specific.

>>42434689

oh boy look at this dunce

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>>42434744
You don't think the growing presence of self-admitted Marxists in our universities and academic circles is at all contributing to the rise of oppression politics?
Surely the presence of An-comms and the like at every leftist protest is just a coincidence. I'm not trying to "draw up a direct connection" between the two. I'm stating that there is visible evidence of Marxist doctrine being utilized to fuel these movements.
The origin of the dichotomy is irrelevant, the fact is that the dichotomy itself is utilized heavily by Marxists to fulfill their own self-destructive agenda.

Self-reliance is at the core of 'rightest' values. Working out is an expression of that for a lot of young conservative voters.
You develop strength, you develop willpower and discipline and that gives you more self-reliance.

If a man is weak and feeble he is reliant on someone other than himself for safety, food and his overall wellbeing.
It doesn't have to be physical strength, mind, it can be overall strength of character. It just happens that being physically strong and capable is the very core of what it means to be self-reliant.

Leftism revolves very strongly around forcing other people to provide for everyone else. It rejects self-reliance and self-responsibility in favour of self-pity and self-destruction. In their minds it is up to society to fix the individual's problems. Physical strength is an affront to this idea. It is a rejection of self-pity and societal reliance. That's why these types hate strong, white men so much because it reminds them of everything they aren't and spits in the face of their entire worldview; that a person cannot survive without the pity (forced or otherwise) of better people.

>>42432088
überprüft

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>>42431837
>Feminism makes a large potion of the male population beta cucks and they don't exercise because they don't want to be masculine
>Feminists call the right wing losers because they exercise
wut?

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A man builds a strong back, a back that can carry many times his own burden so he may carry his parents when they are old and weak. A man's powerful hands are not to be used to crush his fellow but to pull up his fallen brothers knowing that when inevitably does there will be a strong arm to catch him.

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>>42432308
Minorities that make up a fraction of these states swing the entire state's average into obesity?

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>>42434808
Hey look its a guy who watched a Jordon Peterson video and think he understands political economy.

I bet your knowledge of the various European modernist traditions is literally zero. You probably use the words Marxist and Post Modernism in the same breath and don't understand how they are completely dialectically contradictory.

Have you even read Hegel?

Fucking intellectual lightweights thinking Sam Harris, Jordon Peterson and Joe Rogan are anything but memes.

You probably don't even lift.

>>42432296
Alex is a libfag? Aw man say it ain't so

>>42435820
>Commie gets BTFO on /pol/ constantly
>Comes to argue on /fit/ instead

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>>42431934
>when they say "rightwing" they just mean "everyone who doesn't look like Mimi from The Drew Carrey Show".

>>42435844
I never go to /pol/, it's a containment board for retards who build a personal philosophy off idiots whose only claim to authority is making podcasts. I don't have enough free time to scream into the void of retardation.

I'm on /fit/ because occasionally there are decent links to emerging periodisation methods.

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>>42431873
because MUH GIBS

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>>42432222
>leathered face
>cake defiled with symbol of brutal authoritarian style of government
To the Gulag with you

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>>42435820
>Have you even read Hegel
Hegel is a scrub and you're a faggot commie loser, get fucked in your boipucci

>>42435820
>lmao you're just stupid and you don't understand why my ideology is correct

>>42435820

You are going to die by a strong right-wing hand. Don't doubt that.

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>>42431837
If right wingers are so fit why don't they ever post body?

>>42435820
Commies are up. Nice projection but no.
>It's a guy who watched a Jordan Peterson video
I work at my local university and my conclusions are drawn from my own first hand experiences, as well as conversations I've had with self-described communists of various sorts, be it Maoists, Marxists, Anarco-Communists, etc.
>You probably use the words Marxist and Post Modernism [...] don't understand how they are contradictory.
Expand on this.
>Have you even read Hegel?
I have, but I'm sure you'll say I haven't anyway.
>Fucking intellectual lightweights
Not really and argument but I'll chalk it up to you blowing off steam.
>You probably don't even lift
I do, but once again I'm sure in your omniscience you can claim that I actually don't and I'm secretly a 400 pound basement dwelling autist.

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>>42435901
>This just in: Echo chamber attempts to gaslight another echo chamber by calling it an echo chamber, full report at 11:00

>>42431837
it makes sense when you think about how liberal ideals translate into nature. of course the smaller, weaker animals would favor redistribution of wealth over the bigger, stronger ones

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>>42435914
What are the the two echo chambers? What are you even talking about? Also how about you post body? Here's mine

Why are conservatives so damn fat ffs?

>>42432200
Just FYI that vote failed because of all the minority voters who came out to support Obama. They did a study on it. Minorities for whatever reason do not like gay rights

Aren't there any standards for journalism in America anymore? Like, don't you have some sort of a union that monitors this shit, to make sure the quality of journalism is held high?

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>>42435904
>anarco-communist

>>42435937
this is america. 70% of the population is overweight

>>42435928
It's echo chambers all the way down.
Nice bod by the way stud, definitely saved.

>>42435885
>REEEEEEEEE my shallow meme ideology has been exposed and I must respond!

That's your amygdala treating an affront on your closely held beliefs as a physical threat. It'll blow over when you get used to not being immersed in an echo chamber.

>>42435887
It's not even my ideology.

>>42435894
History will prove me right.

>>42435904
Marxism is a modernist tradition, post modernism is the rejection of modernist traditions and the concept of evolving meta narratives in hierarchical society. The idea that 'neo-marxism' has evolved from 'post modernism' is completely contradictory by any definition of either terms.

You can't just throw buzzwords into the mix in order to describe an emerging sociological phenomena in American higher education institutes.

If you want to rail against identity politics and the authoritative structures in society which are being co-opted to encourage a restructuring of society based on the modern idea of social capital and privilege then go ahead. I'm probably on your side in that fight. Just do so with the appropriate terminology if you want to be taken seriously. Mentioning marxism just pulls idiots out of the woodwork who can't produce a coherent argument.

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>>42435951
>Property rights are just a spook guise.

All seriousness, An-coms have some of the least consistent ideology I've ever encountered.
It's interesting, but not in a good way, more in the way that you might see a monkey jerking off in a zoo exhibit and can't help but watch for a few seconds.

>>42435968
Don't worry, will dox everyone and some day you all will get arrested on the day of the rope, starting with your transgender board owner.
Every time you go on jewcord to rumble nonsense, we're watching

>>42431837
Man Vice sure has tumbled way down the left wing faggotry hole haven't they

>>42435986
I literally have no idea what you are trying to convey with this post.

>>42436004
Sure thing faggot
Go to your tranny BO and ask for help, faggot subhuman

>>42435557
>Minorities that make up a fraction of these states swing the entire state's average into obesity?
you dont understand just how fat these people get from doing nothing and eating wellfare food all day

>>42435968
>the modern idea of social capital and privilege

Modern, but the same as it always was. That is the entire point. It doesn't matter what you call it.

>>42435844
Don't bother going to /tv/, literally all they do is cry about the /pol/ boogeyman over there

>>42435968
>History will prove me right.

Detail this future history of yours, would you? Like an outline?

>>42435844
>/Pol/ BTFOing anything
Lmao
If by BTFOing you mean a bunch of retards posting the same poorly researched and super biased image macros while calling anyone that dares disagree with them a cuck shill then I guess you're right.
T. Not a """leftist""", whatever you think that means.

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>>42435968
>That's your amygdala
You'd like to think that to be sure - but I'm just tired of you faggots throwing Hegel into the ring like he magically dispels your being insufferably stupid and strikes it from the record - Hegel is overrated and you're a buttgoblin

>>42436044
>T. Not a """leftist""", whatever you think that means.

Yeah, you always say that. But you are. You're not better than anyone. You're just another one among them.

>>42434337
Had to check for an Onion News logo

>>42435968
Interesting take. I agree to an extent, access to the internet, especially wikipedia where a surface knowledge of a subject can be attained and then passed off as valid commentary is rampant and you will always have people claiming to know more than they do. Still, I never mentioned a genuine link between Marxism and post-modernism in the slightest. In fact, I would argue that the initial bastardization of many post-modern works was done at the hands of self-described Marxists, who use its less rigid structure of reasoning to make arguments for something that isn't post-modern in its inception, but can have its inconsistencies explained away with post-modern ideas, be they correctly interpreted or not.

>>42431871
First author or just a contributor? Just being on an author list makes you an average undergrad.

>>42436044
>statistics are bias

>>42436090

Yeah, leftists love to say that they are. "You can prove anything with statistics" or "There arelies damned lies and then there's statistics" and such nonsense is commonly heard from that camp.

>>42431860
>I wished I lived in V for Vendetta

That's a result of current left-wing ideology though

>>42436090
I mean, there's typically at least a slight bias to every method of data gathering.
That's why the best image macros are the ones with stats from the cdc and others that prove the point while still being a (((credible source))) of which there are plenty.

>>42436059
>Yeah, you always say that
Maybe "we" do because leftist is.a buzzword with no meaning that only you think exists. You only use it because you need a group to antagonize, while avoiding to seem racist or bigoted. Here in the real world we know that that word is only used by manchildren with no notions of political knowledge, just a bunch of edgy opinions.
>>42436090
Biased statistics and jumping to conclusions based on very selective ones is factually innacurate.

>>42436132
Niggers are responsible for the majority of homicides despite only making up 16% of the population. Prove me wrong

>>42436132
>Maybe "we" do because leftist is.a buzzword with no meaning that only you think exists. You only use it because you need a group to antagonize, while avoiding to seem racist or bigoted. Here in the real world we know that that word is only used by manchildren with no notions of political knowledge, just a bunch of edgy opinions.

But leftists do in fact exist. They're a pretty coherent group who behave in certain ways and express certain opinions. It doesn't matter what you self-identify as. You are one if you act like one.

>>42436132
>Biased statistics and jumping to conclusions based on very selective ones is factually innacurate.

This makes absolutely no sense. None at all.

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>>42432429
Why would i be mad about you being a confused idiot?

>>42436147
The government is and America's racist past is responsible for most minorities being poor and forced into criminal activities. America's moral decay and rampant drug abuse encourage an illegal drug economy (in which poor people are foot soldiers) to commit crimes.
Prove me wrong.
>>42436163
You're either baiting or too far up your own ass to see how ridiculous you are.
Cataloguing lots of groups with just one label actively hinders reasonable dialogue and promotes the retarded ""culture war"" that morons like you believe is happening IRL.
>This makes no sense
Lol yeah ok champ, great rebuttal.

>>42436010
You sound angry. Are you not enjoying being involuntarily celibate? Is being MGTOW not empowering you the way you though it was?

>>42436025
The definition is largely unchanged but the prioritisation has been completely flipped on its head by poorly educated advocates who pick and choose disparate justifications and definitions of 'class', 'privilege' and other terms from modernist traditions. The whole battleground is a pseudo intellectual cluster fuck which should just be ignored because it will go away on its own. It has no key tenets which have any staying power, instead it is just maintained by morons on youtube and image boards who can't fucking shut up about it.

>>42436058
Hegel is overrated in some instances but he is vital to understanding modernist traditions so dismissing him is ridiculous.

>>42436071
You are largely correct, a whole load of academic work is being taken out of context to fulfill specific narratives dating back to the 60s. What is somewhat amusing is how much time is being devoted to academic work that was intellectually redundant the day it was published and only recently has been given any authority.

The whole thing is an enormous windmill being tilted at by idiots who don't really understand any of the concepts involved and are being spurred on by academics who use certain works out of context in order to make money from patreon backers.

Somehow the whole thing has been blown out of proportion and manages to be even shallower and intellectually boring than gamergate. Pretty much anything I read about any of it from either is just collections of buzzwords used to create a grand conspiracy around identity politics.

At the end of the day though it can be boiled down to this: Centrist politics masquerading as the left has ended up in an intellectual wasteland. As a result the societal frictions it failed to address have exploded.

>>42432429
Shitskin detected. Straight white men have absolutely no reason to vote for the current Democratic Party, as we are their declared enemy

>>42432062
p = .717
Congratulations, it's fucking nothing

>>42436226
Poor whites don't commit crime at anywhere near the same rates. You obviously believe all the Jewish lies tho so there's really no hope in changing your mind. Good news is that you have no power

>>42436163
Correct, the left wing is still politically active.

It largely doesn't give a shit about identity politics in the grand scheme of things. There are mor important fights to bother with.

Identity politics is like Anti-theism from 2010, it's an overblown internet discussion not really rooted in a movement with major support in reality.

>>42436235
>Identity politics
>"Straight white male"
>>/Pol/
>>/YouTube/
>>/Reddit/
>>/Anywherebuthere/

>>42435940
It's all the mexicans that they love giving sanctuary to, but who also happen to be Catholics who hate gays.

>>42436248
Poor whites living in similar geographies have the same rate of criminality. When you control for geography and not just economic conditions the racial differences vanish.

>most of /fit/ doesn't lift
>most of the posts in this thread are muh pol boogeyman shit
Really jogs the noggin

>>42431934
WE GOT A CENTRIST HERE FOLKS THANK GOD WE'RE SAFE

>>42432097
>>42436243
>expecting a lefty to know anything STEM related
Kek they don't teach that in sociology

>>42435985
An-com just sounds like an oxymoron to me, how could anyone expect that to work?

>>42436252
>he doesn't realize 4chins is a right wing website
>>42436266
explain the homicide statistics then

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>>42434431
so? our retards are out preparing for the military or militia while your retards are on estrogen pills and cutting their dicks off

>>42436226
>Cataloguing lots of groups with just one label actively hinders reasonable dialogue and promotes the retarded ""culture war"" that morons like you believe is happening IRL.

No, it doesn't. People gravitate towards them naturally. Groups like this form spontaneously.

>Lol yeah ok champ, great rebuttal.

No, it literally doesn't make any sense. It's a gibberish string of words that doesn't mean anything.

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>>42436286
go back to your containment thread dumb strength

>>42436266
Source on this m8? I seem to remember it being the contrary

>>42436226
>The government is and America's racist past is responsible for most minorities being poor and forced into criminal activities. America's moral decay and rampant drug abuse encourage an illegal drug economy (in which poor people are foot soldiers) to commit crimes.

Yeah, okay, you're a fucking leftist. This is absolutely classic rhetoric from that camp. How you can even deny it is unfathomable to me.

>>42436293
having a scarf like that is so fucking gay.
otherwise looks good. he probably actually is gay though.

>>42436311
Every single guy in that picture could kick your ass

>>42436266
>Poor whites living in similar geographies have the same rate of criminality.

No they don't.

>When you control for geography and not just economic conditions the racial differences vanish.

They do not. You fucking liar.

>>42436311
(You)
Post deadlift or paycheck. I'm pretty sure I've got you beat

>>42436316
He could be Italian.

>>42435820
now this is quality shitpost

>>42436297
>Mixing socialists and Democrats doesn't misrepresent their views
Wew, who would have known
>No, it literally doesn't make any sense. It's a gibberish string of words that doesn't mean anything.
Here, friend:
YOUR
STATISTICS
ARE
WRONG
>>42436322
They do. It's all about class, not race.
>>42436315
Thanks for proving my original point. You should call me a cuck just to drive the point forward. Maybe post a few macros of feminists saying something dumb.

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>>42436287
I've heard so many conflicting reasons on why they've labeled themselves this way.
Mostly I get a long list of their personal grievances with capitalism. Their solution is typically, burn in all down and instate socialism, which seems strange to me, as I'm not sure how they figure it'll function without a state. It's usually this point that they'll either backpedal or double down and call you a Nazi, which is fine, I've been called a Nazi not entirely wrongly before, but that still doesn't answer the question. Typically when they find out you don't care about being called a Nazi or a Fascist they scamper off or throw some more buzzwords out.
I've yet to have a calm level headed conversation with one and I go out of my way to be extremely respectful and calm, open relaxed body language and all.
I might never understand the true thinking behind hit but as of now, they're typically just angsty teens with a reddit account and a chip on their shoulder. Usually they just want to have a reason to break things.
At least the stirner memes are kind of funny in a mockable way.

>>42431850

t. Dyel cuck with estrogen > testo

>>42431837
>Vice

Here's your problem faggot

>>42436385
>It's all about class
found the kike

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>>42431837
>when I was a fat fuck, I was hyper-conservative/Republican
>after I lost weight/got fit, I became increasingly more liberal & vocal

I'm probably as healthy as I've ever been, but also as wildly liberal & happy. That being said, I still hate fat people & the whole "health at every size" movement. The only Trump supporters I know are racist, fat as shit & leach off the gov't. That last one is kinda ironic, really.

>>42436438
>Let jew boogyman
Found the redditor that has been 3 months on /Pol/.
Leave, cancer.

>>42436447
>trump supporters are retards who vote against their interests unknowingly

Makes me think

>>42436266
That's a fucking lie and you know it

>>42436409
I think the An-Com position is more about horizontal organisation of society and authority rather than vertical organisation.

You can't really engage with it on terms which are applicable to existing societal hierarchies. It's like to trying to engage with dialectical reasoning by taking about causation. You miss the nuances that give weight to the thinking behind the conclusions.

I'm by no means an An-Com but I think it's a bit lazy to dismiss it without engaging with it on its own terms.

If you cant derive some sort of value (you don't have to agree with it) from a philosophical school of thought then I'd say that's a decent indication you haven't given it the required attention.

>>42436486
Not him but why do you want it to be a lie so badly?

>>42436475
The majority of people making at least 35k a year voted for trunp while the majority of those who didn't voted for hillary.

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>>42436266
btfo

>>42436502
I don't "want" it to be a lie, it just is. There's no white population in the country that's as criminal.

>>42436470
If it all comes down to class, and whites make up the largest poor segment of society, then why isn't that majority responsible for the most homicides?

Oh yeah, because they're not low IQ niggers shooting each other that's why. But continue blaming the US's "racist past" you liberal retard

>>42436502
Because all.of his political views are based on that point and realizing they're wrong would mean he'd have to actually change his worldview, and that is just too damn hard.

>>42436475
>claiming to know other people's' interest
another kike spotted

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>>42436514
Ever heard of wall street?

>>42436533
Ever heard of Ashkenazi Jews

>>42436490
I'm honestly giving it a go. I understand there is likely an underlying common philosophy but the individual, in my experience, who subscribes to that underlying philosophy is often too stand-offish/unsure of their own position to meaningfully defend it without contradicting themselves.
I'm not going to stop trying to figure out what drives them as I'm always interested to hear what makes someone think a certain way. Even if I think they're incorrect of course.
As for horizontal organization, I find that most movements and ideas predicated on the idea don't account for the nature of man, or make sweeping assumptions to be "ironed out later".
Someone will always stand out as the "leader" of a group, be it officially or not. As the population of that group increases, the complications with horizontal organization seem to become only more daunting.

>>42436528
Too bad you're just fucking wrong. Controlling for all external factors, blacks are still multiple times more criminal

>>42436545
A small subset of the bourgeoisie?

They'll swing from the lamp posts too, but not because they are Jews.

>>42436577
>They'll swing from the lamp posts
:^)
>Not because they're jews
:^(

>>42432241
>voted for the jew

lmao I'll never understand why people waste their votes

>>42436577
>Communists ever doing anything in the US
They literally vote for their own disarment wherever they get power lmao

>>42436577
kys

>>42436567
I see what your problem is and I had the same troubles as well when I first came across it. I'm trying to think what helped me get to grips with the idea of collective rule not being totally antithetical to the concept of having group leaders.

I know at the time I was reading Bakunin, working ym way through Das Kapital Vol. 1 and also reading a lot of Orwell. I found Chomsky's 'On Anarchism' fairly useful, mainly because of his use of language I think.


>>42436595
Democrats do, democrats aren't left in any part of their ideology though. Let alone communist.

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right wing = chad

left wing = sad

>>42436574
Citation please

>>42434524
This may be the truest thing I've ever read on the internet.

>>42431837
Big thick centrist over here, come at me with your weirdo partisanship.

>>42436641
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

>>42436631
are centrists sad chads?

>>42436658
>inb4 statistics are racist

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>>42435901
What now, faggot?

>>42436641
You're a lefty right? Wapost work for you?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/

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>>42436667
Centrists are normies.

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>>42431837

Excellence, masculinity, discipline, obedience, tradition, and hierarchy are all right wing values. Egalitarians have no reason to strive to be better than everyone else.

>>42436723
>obedience
Kek beta cuck

>>42436626
Chomsky is an easy read. I find myself disagreeing with him a lot but he is good at conveying his ideas, agree with them or not.
I've read all of Orwell's major works and Das Kapital.
I've only ever read short writings by Bakunin and hear him referenced a lot, although typically negatively, by a friend of mine who teaches literature.
I'm very fascinated by the "opposing view" and though I have extremely right-leaning views I try to at least understand the views of anarchists, communists, other -ists, etc.
I still find myself extremely at odds with the views and arguments in support of "collective rule" with various exceptions but I work more or less part time as I'm partially retired so I'm sure I'll find the time to look into it further.
Do you ever find yourself reading any "right-wing" writers? They're less talked about in academic circles but there are a few that I particularly like.

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>>42431837
those calves DDD:

>>42436759
I suspect by the picture attached they mean obedience to god, or at least traditional morality.

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>>42432062
>>42432086
>>42432110
Conservative states have a lot of blacks and other minorities. This correlation exists with everything blacks do more than whites, and vice versa.

When Democrats and leftists point out the higher crime rate in conservative states, blacks and mestizos are the reason again. Pundits do this all the time. Democratic whites are simply more segregated from minorities

>>42435557
>Minorities that make up a fraction of these states swing the entire state's average into obesity?
Yes, because they make up a large fraction of the state. They also vote less than whites. You are assuming similarities that don't exist

>>42436759
Obedience to a higher ideal, you nigger. It doesn't mean being meek and accepting any authority.

>>42431837
>studies are science
When did this happen

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>>42436759
>being a slave to your own passions
>alpha

More like nigger-tier

>>42431913
Ya got me

>>42435869
You also get rekt by the FBI crime statistics and victimization surveys. You also don't learn anything from how often the real wages are pointed out to you.

>>42435820
>Have you even read Hegel?
Hegel hasn't said anything that matters all that much.

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>>42435901
Why post this if you aren't going to post body yourself?

>>42434524
Succinctly nailed it.

>>42436977
Lookin joocy boardie

Once again, /pol/ with another terrible fucking thread.

Back to /tv/ with this shit, please

>>42436977
>roiding for this
Nigga, where's your torso? You're all traps and delts.

>>42437137
Lmao what are you even talking about

This is the weirdest >elbows too pointy comment I've seen in a while. My torso is big. I'm fat and have a big ribcage

>>42437110
Thx bby

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>>42437131
>the absolute state of /tv/

>>42431837
Let's get something straight here

>both candidates shitty bc of faulty two party system in America
>both parties demo and repub are right wing, just demos are SLIGHTLY more left
>in American politics presidents have very little power and the things they put it place UNLESS approved by congress can always be reversed
>Hilary would've probably gotten us into more serious shit, while Trump is just making us look dumb

I can live with Trump literally all he's doing is making himself look bad whereas Hilary would've gotten us into some pretty serious shit

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>>42437131
now that we know all the muscular chads lean right, you can fuck off back to /r9k/ with the other nu-males.

>>42435873

>what am Photoshop?

>>42435557
>a fraction
Mississippi is like 40% black.

>>42436977
Damnnnn, juicy traps.

>>42434416
By asian you mean Indian right? Everywhere else in the world Asian means (South) East Asian, so Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, etc.

>>42437202
>both parties demo and repub are right wing, just demos are SLIGHTLY more left

LMFAO WAT

>testosterone is now associated with capable, strong, durable men
SHOCKING NEWS

>>42432193
>it's the actual supporters who are just... So dumb

Generalizing an entire population? That sounds... a little... BIGOTED

>>42436324
what do you do for work boardshorts? miring 600 lb deadlift btw really competitive

>>42435820
We're not even talking about the economy you mong

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Who /nazbolgang/ here?

>>42437336

By the rest of the world's standards. Overton's window makes the Democrats seem left as opposed to largely centrist.

>>42437435
By "the rest of the world" you mean just western europe and canada, and it is them who moved to the left.

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Only argument /pol/ makes about the left left is that they're against masculinity and pro lgbt. That's just a strawman that's being used to attack the left while our true focus is economic reform. We're also not in favor of limiting other peoples freedoms, even lgbt.

>>42437425
>not anally probed
kek

>>42431837
>broadly
Yeah they got that right, painting is all with a broad fucking brush

>>42436409
It's my understanding that AnComs believe that with complete and total seize of personal property and redistribution, there comes a point where a government isn't needed anymore because our nature is to help our neighbor. Pretty fucking retarded stuff

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>>42436865
>FBI crime statistics

>>42437435

Republicans are classical liberals they would have been considered leftists 300 years ago

>>42437454
How is it a strawman when social policies are 90% of what lefties talk about?
Also communism is a disease and you should be thrown from a helicopter

>>42431982
Post body

>>42431837

/pol/ aren't right wing anymore

they're all statists now

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>>42432088
checked

>>42437502
It's in one of the CBT threads - the one with the the OP who just got called out for using "myspace angle" to emphasize shoulders and arms. I'm the guy with the black sweatpants rolled up into black short shorts, green dresser right behind me.

>>42437471
over 50% of the people arrested for violent crime are black.

Which your graph conveniently ignores.

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>>42437471
>doesn't mention the type and circumstances of the violent crimes
>doesn't mention the evidence involved in each case
>clings to the fantasy that there are totally a ton of unreported crimes and here's a random number
>but there's no way a nigger could be behind those unreported crimes!

>>42437385
I'm a clinical outpatient liaison for a PT clinic. Basically i go to doctors offices and try to get referrals to our clinic. 3 days a week and pays obnoxiously well

>>42437454
If you're making a case for raising minimum wage you're categorically retarded. Also the left is pro entitlement, big government, gimmes, high taxes, refuse meritorious rewards as a system and want even distribution to everybody regardless of their worth or output.

>>42437471
Why would a greater proportion of that non-convicted crime be done by whites, per capita? If anything, the rest of that crime would be disproportionately black, not only because of their disproportionate rate of conviction for crime, but also because most crime is intraracial, and black victims are less likely to cooperate with police

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I'm a socialist because I realize there is no real free will, we are all victims of circumstance and those of us who have the fortitude to do so should help those who can't.

As a species we make more than enough for all of us and I doubt the artificial scarcity we keep introduxing is really furthering our progress, but instead only serves to satisfy our base instincts of following leader figures.

Here's my body btw.

>>42437628
>socialist
>manlet
shocker

>>42437628
Maybe you don't have free will, you fucking retard.
>and those of us who have the fortitude to do so should help those who can't.
Why? Why should those who refuse to take care of themselves or their own be supported for their whole lives by strangers who are forced to at gun point?
>As a species we make more than enough for all of us
Enough WHAT? Food I guess, but transporting it everywhere is impossible. And there's nothing artificial about the scarcity of modern goods and services.

>>42437628
>look at how powerless and frail we are!
>looks powerless and frail
Checks out

>>42436051
now post one of leftists w/ colored hair, tats and piercings

>>42436470
>still going on /pol/ after (((they))) compromised it

>>42436286
Most scientists, mathematicians, and contemporary tech developers are "leftists".

I'm not sure about engineers because that's a super vague qualification,

>>42437740
Only because scientists know where the pay checks come from. Need sources on the others

>>42437628
This guy gets it, sort of... at least the end result is the same.

>>42437609
lmao this.

black people = "Snitches get stitches, fug da police"

white people = Call the cops on neighbor for smoking a joint

>>42437748
You know nothing about science as a career if you think that scientists are in it for the money. Not only is that an inappropriate qualification of scientists, but science as a general field does not pay well.

>>42437471
>111-4 is 108

Move along. This was made by a nigger

>>42437713
"infiltration" or not, /pol/ is the main base.

Those other tiny little fringe imageboards are just backups.

>>42437768
t. someone who doesn't know how climate change funding works

>>42437628
>this dyel faggot is spamming his ugly, ugly, U G L Y body again

jesus christ dude just put on a tripcode so I can filter your fuck-ugly body already, it doesn't work when I just type in "ugly-ass faggot with caved in bitch chest"

>>42431860
haha fantastic

saved.

>>42437780
I am a published ecologist... I have actually applied for and received climate research funding. I didn't make more than 15K/year until I was 26, and even then I got one of the BEST POSSIBLE jobs for someone with my level of experience in the field and I still only make like 45k/year 3 years later.

>>42437804
I'm talking about the funding being outcome determinant and not overall amounts you retard

>>42431966
no because the democratic party has so many different coalitions in it. There are centrist democrat Clintonites and at the other end you have further left types like Sanders

But the Republican party is more refined and does not employ a big tent strategy like the dems do

>>42431982
t. teenage dyel trump supporter

>>42437780
Additionally, there are likely only around 1000 people in all of the US who receive funding that could even ostensibly be called "climate research funding" and if you discount the 3-5 teams who receive tens of thousands to millions from NSF the remaining (probably about) 1000 recieve maybe $500/year for their research every few years.

>muh science
t. bugmen

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>>42437493
>social policies are 90% of what lefties talk about?

No, that's 90% of what posts you see regarding "leftists" on /pol/ and other echo chambers and also from mainstream media. Those guys don't even know the difference between marxists and anarchism. You should try to educate yourself at least a bit.

>>42432168
>Every US election has been right or left, red or blue, a or b for a long time. I don't really need to justify Hillary's behavior beyond, Trump is an absolute cunt and I'd rather have a president who is verbally offensive than some walking pussy pie catering to the neck bearded obese faggotry that seems to be making up the youth of today.

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>>42436977
>tfw no buff chad to fight lefties with

>>42437867
They're both retarded

>>42437815
Ahh. In that case you must not know many scientists. Most of us acknowledge facts - it's our job.

>>42437598
>clinically retarded

No it isn't? Where you're getting all this bs from? (protip: stop browsing /pol/, it's an echo chamber which will make you dumber)

>>42437654
1.84 but thanks for saying my body looks like a manlets I'll take the compliment

>>42437842
I... how did you even get to there from "nearly-radically liberal scientist"?

>>42437748
"I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society."

Albert Einstein, Why Socialism?, 1949

>>42434528
>my race

I love it when Americans say this. Here's a tip: you're a mixed race mutt

t. euro

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>>42437701

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>>42437692
he's more aesthetic than you, you have very unfortunate chest genetics

>>42437924
Nah mane
We murica now

>>42437891
>1.84
What?

>>42437921
>(((Einstein)))

modern liberalism, at its core, is about laziness and getting free shit from other people without having to do work

is it not surprising that they don't lift, that would require actually working at something

>>42438039
t. Someone who doesn't understand modern liberalism.

>>42438047
t. parasite

>>42437867
Mainstream media represents the vast majority of the left. Genuine commies are a minority, most just want a welfare state. Plus, even most of the commies are socially leftist.

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/pol/ is a hugbox desu

>>42438047
please enlighten us then, weakling

>>42431837
>right wing assholes
They just cant help themselves, cant they? i thought they were all about tolerance

>>42438182
As if whatever you like isnt

>>42438127
hugboxes ban dissent, not just mock it

>>42438231
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>not being a Chad radical centrist

Y'all are never gonna make it.

>>42432062
>>42432105
>correlation does not equal causation???

I think the article is just trying to say that OUT OF the people who go to the gym and take it seriously, they're more likely to be right wing. You're conflating entire populations via states to an entirely different population (gym goers). I mean for all you know the ones that strictly attend the gym in California could be right wing. This is the same argument leftist use when they say red states consume more welfare, it's not because its filled with stupid conservatives voting against their interest, they just have sub-populations that use disproportionate amount of welfare( african-american).

better being dyel than being a brainlet: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html

>>42438047
Go mutilate your genitals faggot

>>42438276
UK study, poor methadology, and completely speculative interpretation. But we already knew sociologists weren't real scientists

>>42437628
>socialist and a manlet
when will they learn

>>42438047
t. jamal

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>>42436132
What conclusions do you jump to from these selectively biased statistics?

>>42436226
>being poor = murder

>>42432062

>citation needed

>>42436286
Explain what's bad about being a centrist, go ahead

>>42438352
>>42438352
I'm 1.84m which is abit over 6 feet iirc, what is your height and picture my man?

>>42438451
All you are doing is allowing yourself to weasel out of picking sides. Do people 100% agree with their "side"? No. But that doesn't make you a centrist. At a certain point though you put your foot down on what's important and vote for who represents that.

>>42438259

This.

Prior to 2000 (some of you probably aren't old enough to remember back that far) there was no such thing as "red states" and "blue states". Every news network used different color schemes for their election night coverage. In 2000 they all united and created this scheme for precisely this reason: to create a bigger sense of "us versus them", and to make it easier to hide the real reason for various problems under the guise of "well, it's because it's a red state".

>>42438464
>meters
opinion disregarded

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>>42437454
these percentages don't even add up to 100%...

>>42437454
Minimum wage hike has been proven to be disastrous everywhere it has been implemented. Fuck off with your free shit and learn to carry your own weight

>>42437454
$15 in CA versus $15 in MS or poorer states. Trump was 100% correct about leaving to the states themselves.

>>42438486
>Because giving in to biases because of "Your" party supporting certain policies even though they make zero sense objectively is inherently bad
>Because centrists are all weasels and aren't allowed to lean to one side without representing themselves as a member of that party

>>42431860
the child in pic related is litterally a left wing marxist. not even a proper strawman

>>42437924
Sorry bud. 100% western euro, you're stuck with me.

>>42431837
No wonder anyone with testosterone would never be a leftie

>>42438182
Of course a board dedicated to a specific political ideology is a hugbox, /leftypol/ is no different

>>42437945
Guy with the beard in the back is bretty good looking.
Damigo wouldn't look bad if he wasn't a manlet.

>>42437471
>conveniently leaving out the percentage of reported crimes that are black
>then claiming "lol guess we'll never know"
Yeah, they still commit around half of crime in the US.

>>42438622
That's exactly what I'm saying
>hurr I'm centrist I'm a free thinker
That could mean fucking anything. I've heard socialists call themselves centrist.

>>42436075
in what field of study does the average undergrad get published?

>>42438537

haha sick burn dude now no one will get you're insecure both about your body AND your height at the same time

>>42432429

if you don't vote libertarian you're some variety of cuck

I work out. If anything, I'm left of centre. I voted Liberal (Canadian), mostly because I don't like the conservative party. I hate far lefts just as much as I hate far rights, I believe people should be compassionate but also if people want more out of life they need to work for it, and not feel so entitled.

For a while, I lived on disability (schizo) which is in place and being increased almost every other month because of a left wing government. If it hadn't been for that, I'd be homeless and starving. I hated being dependent on the government, I wanted to be independent, but at the time I was focusing on therapy.

Also I don't believe you should be be accepting of EVERYONE like university liberals want you to be. Fuck I hated uni culture. What made me less liberal wasn't weightlifting, it was being raped by several college liberals who were trying to force me to be accepting of them. A fat stereotypical SJW got her gay friends to rape me, because 1) I'm a man, and all men are rapists, and 2) no matter what anyone does, there will always be rape, and so we need to be accepting of rape and rapists (as long as the victim is a man)

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>true leftists
>dyel
HET

>>42434358

the whole idea of 'volk' is disgustingly leftist

every atom that makes up everything not me is only as such until I decide to return it to it's rightful owner; me

>>42438794
I'm 6'3" 175lbs. I was making fun of your dirty yuropoor measuring unit and not your height Hans

>>42438833
Commies are on permacuts.

>>42438812
Might as well vote Green Party if you're so keen on throwing your vote away

>>42438837
>this level of egotistical individualism
>right-wing
Wew. Fucking. Lad.

>>42435985

why would anyone want to serve anything that is not them self

why become powerful if not for the glory and power and domination of the self

>>42438857


right wing is individualism
left wing is collectivism

dyels are leftist because they know they'd be torn apart under a winner takes all society so they want to drag us all down to their disgusting level

>>42438824
You were literally raped by fags and you're still leftist? Are you truely that big of a cuck, or did you just like it? You should be filled with rage.

>>42438837
Well NatSoc isn't entirely rightwing so I don't really care which side it falls on. I'll work to further my people, so long as they'll work to further our people as well.
The issue I have is with fucking nigger welfare leeches sitting around then pitching a fit when they can't buy the new iPhone.
If that's not for you that's your prerogative. I won't stop you.

>>42438824
>I believe people should be compassionate
>gets raped

>>42437740
Engineers will never be lefties because we are realistic. Some of us might vote left but very few of us consider ourselves liberals.

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>>42439156
Civil engineers vote right because leftists don't spend money on infrastructure.
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>>42438951
Educated people are leftist because they understand that the way things are going, automatisation will get rid of 90% of all jobs and that 99% of allhuman capital will be concentrated in the hands of the elite 1% who then will have the power to do anything they please with us. That feel when it's already happening and boards like /pol/ are funded by the elite already to disrupt leftists discussion to make the masses more aware.

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>>42439332
numbers are accurate btw, they're from the future. Don't question.

>>42439332

in that case the 99% have become obsolete and should rapidly go the way of the dodo

>>42439332
Yeah, leftists are terrified of a labor surplus, that's why they keep demanding we import millions of shit skins "to do the jobs we don't want to"

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>>42439350
Fuckin (((Robert Reich))), that manlet spoke at my Highschool like 10 years ago.

>>42437945
They might look like shit but they're doing their best.
Leftists willingly ruin themselves with piercings and tatoos.

>>42439332
>I can't wait until everyone is poor!