I am tired of this natty cuck life For 2 years Ive tried to

>>42429552
Post current body pls

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>>42429578

This is 2 years. Its fucking pathetic I know.

Ive tried eating more, sleeping more, taking all kinds of retarded supplements. Nothing seems to help. My job is just so physically demanding that I feel it slows my recovery rate drastically. Im tired of these subpar results

6'0 btw

>>42429638
You don't even look that bad desu, you have a pretty good ottermode bod if you shed 3-4% of BF. Don't let body dysmorphia get to you, if you have enough energy for work and 2-3 good sessions per week, and are making steady progress, keep doing what your doing, you don't necessarily need to hop on gear mate

>>42429695

Not that bad is not what I want though. I spend too much time, energy, effort and thought into this whole thing to settle for ottermode. Most people have way better results after 2 years of serious lifting.

I dont feel like I can reach the goals I want in my current situation

>>42429735
How many times do you work out per week? Sometimes decreasing volume or intensity gives better results, especially with a physical job. Programming might be your solution

>>42429774

Ideally Id like to go 6 times a week. But most of the time its cut back to 3, maybe 4 times because my body just doesnt allow it. Im pissed off every week about having to skip days and make compromises

>>42429638
>Ive tried eating more, sleeping more,
Something tells me you've not been consistent. It's not enough to eat well for a month, you have to do it for months.

>>42429638
300mg of test will help out for sure, but you're doing great bud. Do you have a before pic from 2 years ago?

I have a feeling that you're actually right on schedule for a working class natty, it just takes time.

At the very least, try a little cut and see if you like your body. You don't need to get big to look good.

>>42429866
>I have a feeling that you're actually right on schedule for a working class natty, it just takes time.

Natty training takes time and all, but don't be retarded. Unless OP started in extreme Auschwitz mode, his progress has been extremely bad for 2 years in the gym.

https://twitter.com/justindkim92/status/815840637471723521

This fucking Asian made some serious gains in two years.

What was OP doing wrong?

>>42429812
There's the thing mate. Try 2-3 sessions per week for a couple months, for reals. You're demanding too much from your bod and creating a cycle of disappointment from routinely not getting the 6 workouts per week. It's extremely important for gains to feel like you accomplish your goals, even if it means to cut down on sessions. Good luck mate

>Dat tren jaw development

>>42429866
>>42429884

Weighed 136 before, now 160

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>>42429638
>>42429552
I feel your pain so much bud. Aint even funny. 6 years in hard labor, supplements food and sleep-- winding up looking wiry skinnyfat. Was skeleton before. Natty is a lie when your genetics eat shit. I was just waiting for my health insurance to kick in so I could go demand legal gear.

>>42429638
maybe you should actually go to the gym and lift some fucking weights?

>>42429947
His jaw is the exact same. If anything his jaw looks less defined since his increased neck diminishes the contrast between jaw and neck.

>>42430042
His entire face shape is different as his jaw growth gave him a square face

>>42429638
Looking good, small dose of test is not worth fucking up your system.

>>42429964
>Natty is a lie when your genetics eat shit

That's you problem yes.

are you over 25?

then HOP ON THE GAINS TRAIN YO

do 500mg/week test E

trust me. its worth it.

>>42429638
I would get your test checked. If it's relatively normal or high I wouldn't hop on right now since 200-300 mg is pretty much a TRT dose you would not get any benefits but would shut down your natural test production and increase your estrogen. If you're test is low right now you should go on testosterone

>>42430188

27

>>42430189

Might do that first, never got my levels checked

>>42430098
His face isn't square at all. It still has that downward V shape. What are angles idiot.

>>42429552
>>42430188
>>42429964
>>42429895
>>42429866
i am 21, similar problem, hard labour job and working out gains are slow, should i get checked or am i too young

>>42430247
you're 21. don't do it

>>42430195
I started at 25, best decision ever. I felt like I was in my teen years again

>>42430247
Too young. I'm>>42429964 and im 28.
Give it four years of honest molding and get your body ready for the sauce. Strong foundations etc

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>>42429552
>mfw you fuck up your health

>>42430296

Did you start out slow to see how your body would react, or did you just go on a full dose right away

>>42429552
is he natty?

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>>42430299
>>42430296
thx for the info guys.

>>42430322

250/mg on sunday and 250mg on a wednesday

2 shots per week for 12 weeks

>>42429884
>his progress has been extremely bad for 2 years in the gym.

that feel

>someone posts a pic where they look better than you
>"yeah so been liftin for 3 months how's my progress"

the fuck