Reminder that lifting heavy is unsustainable Most people on

>>42424706
>ifting heavy is unsustainable
There's a difference between lifting heavy and being a powerlifter.

For once you aren't come near the weight this guy was putting on his spine everytime he squated no matter how hard you tried.

Lifting moderatly heavy weights are fine aslong as you use good form.

>>42424984
You also don't have the muscleture to support your spine as well as they do.

Lifting heavy is pants on head retarded if your goal is aesthetics or health.

If you're performance driven you can sacrifice some health for it, but make no mistake that this is what you're doing.

>>42424706
Correction: age 27 getting big naturally v age 60 just using jooce

>>42424706

Yeah, just do bodyweight and run, amirite? Probably avoid red meats too, preferably go fully vegan? Take a refugee into my house too, also? Let him fuck my wife a bit?

>>42425021
t. dyel poltard who thinks squatting heavy enough to get a bubble butt is inherently manly

>>42425044

Of course it is.

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>>42425021
Oy vey that's the idea, goyim.

>>42425021
/pol/ mindset escalates insecurities ridiculously

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>>42425073

Pic related: you on the left.

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>>42425089

Lmao I'm >>42425044 and here's my body and posture as a natty who does moderate-low weights for high reps and high volume.

Post your poltard body.

>>42425119
it shows, you dyel

>>42425119
D Y E L

>>42425288
>>42425397
post your body then faggots

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>>42425288
I've been training for 3 month

>>42424706
This is true to an extent.

I think steroids is a big factor in this though.

With all the muscle you are building while on steroids your muscles are growing and reaching levels of strength that your bones/ligaments can handle.

Obviously this can happen without taking steroids, but not to the same extent.

That being said lifting only up to moderately heavy weights will still make you healthier, stronger and look better than the general population with very few risks.

>>42425525
Cannot handle*

Sorry on phone

Frank Zane has stated he used to go heavy all the time.

What's your point?

>>42425525
How much is "moderate"?

>>42425119
>those pecs

Oh anon, i'm so sorry...

>>42425683

probably just past the novice stage, it also makes the most sense as a point to stop going heavier because you get a lot of diminishing returns after that point

>>42425018
Oh my goodness, are you suggesting using anabolic steroids?

>>42424706
>men overweight or obese by every practical medical definition strapping weight several times their own weight to themselves end up with bad joints

Practically every elite athlete in every sport ends up with joint injuries, from football to running, I've seen and met people with all sorts of fucked up joints. Elite Atheltes are pushing the limits of their humanity practically. Some retard weightlifting enthusiast repping 2pl8 on bench won't blow out any joints by age 30 if they do it with right form. Comparing 240lb power lifter to 180lb anon is kind stupid.

>>42425683
I feel like 1/2/3/4 is as much as anyone needs to lift just to say they lift, without trying to be good at it or anything

>>42425734
like how much - 20kg free weight barbells per arm are pretty normal and easy for high rep, but i dont think they will give me actual big ass arms
Same for deadlift - should i stick to my bodyweight +/- 20 kg or go up to 200?

>>42425778

i dno, i wasnt hte original guy you responded to. i just wanted to chime in with a sensible place to stop focusing on strength

you still need to get stronger over time though, but it shouldn't be so aggressive. powerbuilding doing a brosplit 5 days a week is very sensible. doing something like 5-3-1, or 8-5-2 or whatever you want for one heavy lift per day, and then 4-5 high rep accessories. this will give you monthly strength progression and the rest goes to size.

>>42424984
watch dorian gates talking with joe rogan about lifting heavy

>>42425806
Thanks anon!
So far i went for a mix of cardio, boxing and mid rep (10) with a moderate diet - and walk/skate a lot. will try a proper split soon.

>>42425069
Goldlight Sparkle is my favorite rabbi

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>>42425725
I do have pectus, so my chest will never look great anyway, but that is an older picture. Here's how my chest looked at the peak of my winter bulk, we'll see how it looks when I'm done cutting.

>>42425119
Do more chest flies and dips

>>42424706
Lifting heavy = Lifting the most you can for 12 good reps, whatever that weight is be it 20kg or 100kg

Lifting superheavy = Powerlifter lifts and snap city

Big difference

>>42425833
He didn't talk much about it, only rep numbers.

>>42425089
that chick looks hot

>>42424706
If you'reon test (these guys are) then low weight high reps has always been the key to more growth. Natties need to kill themselves on heavy weight to make the most gains. But your argument is terrible anyway because tom Platz had the best quads I've ever seen and he could squat 325 for 25 reps. He didn't get fucked up.

>>42425119
N O L E G S
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>>42425021
top kek

>>42424706

Life is unsustainable, faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLVJTBZtiuw

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>>42424706
What's it like being a total pussy?

>>42424706
Frank Zane looks like shit now. He's dyel

>>42425974
U look like shit and don't do hard enough work to fix that. Stay DYEL but make bullshitt excuses to justify it.
"JUST WAIT FOR MY CUT. YOU'LL SEE"

>>42425974
nobody else posted pics. fucking lol what a bunch of insecure fatties

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>>42426192
Strongmen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powerlifters > bodybuilders

>>42425974

If you have Pectus it's pretty mild

>>42424706

I've been lifting within 5% of my 1rm on every compound almost every week for nearly 10 years. So unsustainable :(

>>42425021
>>42425073
This has literally nothing to do with /pol/

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>>42424706
>lifting heavy is unsustainable

spoken like a fearful, dainty little twink bitch who wants to justify the fact that he is a physically weak and immensely emasculated beta male. keep up those mental gymnastics, squirt.

>>42425683
25 to 32 MAAAAAYBE 35

>>42426195
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRc6LpOhBtU/?hl=en
Lol

>>42426227
Wow it's every woman's dream men lmao

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>>42425119
>stringy hair
>skinny
>twig bitch legs
>curl chimp arms that still look like shit
>looks like a dirty, smelly meth head

you look like a fucking mess, cletus.

>>42424706
Who's the old man on the right?

>>42426297
Pretty sure like all of those guys are married

>>42426316
Fuck you bro

What's "too heavy"? More than 1/2/3/4? Maybe even less than that?

>>42424706
>lifting heavy is unsustainable

I workout with a 63 year old powerlifter and he's been doing it for decades drug free

There's a difference between powerlifting and being a retard trying to max out every other day also taking the individual's health and preexisting conditions into consideration

>>42426304

Here are my quads, same time as my second picture.

I really wish they were a bit smaller.

What now?

Also

>stringy hair

This is called sweat, ever stepped into a gym?

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>>42426377

oh picture, right

>>42426384
You look good m8, don't worry. What are your stats?

>>42426384
>those calves

My condolences

>>42426392

I don't bench, last time I maxed it was 100x3 or so.

I don't dead but last time I tried maxing it was 185x3.

I don't squat and haven't tried maxing in years.

I don't push but last time I tried to max it was 65x5.

I only have the bad habit of maxing on chins, doing 45 for 4 currently, need to drop the ego and go for only a bit of added weight.

Bw between 85 and 75, sitting close to 80 now since if I hit a beach it will be in a month.
>>42426399
Out of all the things a man could be insecure about, calves? Lmao I would chop off my legs if I could hover like a genie my man.

>>42426531
>I don't lift
Got it

>>42426384
yes, we all know how skinny your legs are. just give it a rest, cletus. you're embarrassing yourself and the rest of the trailer park.

>>42424706
I literally wanna fuck those two oldfarts at the same time while going back and forth tonguening them.
>tfw never had a dad
>tfw will be a homewrecker to senior Chads in my Woodland Hills neighborhood
I'm ready to burn the world.

>>42424706
>no one pointing out that the Lilliebridges are notorious for shitty form

>>42425021

it's always the /pol/ resident who brings up cucking/black dicks/sexual fantasies. Have something you want to share?

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Fuck Lifting Heavy i only do. light Weight and Machines

>>42426808
Yeah show us a pic in a tshirt with no pump

>>42426808
you go heavy on the roids

also i love this meme, don't stop forcing it

>>42426808
why you kfc greasey bruh

>>42426551

And still no one has posted their body.

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>>42426822
Show me your Body bebey

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>>42426847
Of course i roid Bodybuilding sucks hell Without roids

>>42426920
Cuz i sweaty as fuck from the Tren

>>42427120
Twinkmode

>>42427131
>>42427120

myrin

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>>42427140
highly rec carrying wipes my man

i'm not enhanced but i get sweaty (and greasy from the sweat) at my job and these are a fuckin life saver

Calisthenics > lifting

>>42424706
>pro bodybuilders lift heavy, strongmen lift heavy, oly lift heavy, powerlifters lift heavy, rugby players lift heavy
>some twink on fit is telling me time under tension is all that matters and that you can look big repping sub2pl8 bench.
>>42425119
Manlet ass twink that doesn't look good outside of xs tees

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>>42427152
Im sure You Look pretty amazing as Well bro Share it with us

>>42427239
>>42427131
>>42427120
>roiding for this

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>>42427249
not posting your pic and being a jelly hater. LMAO keep up with the virgin lifting that you probabaly cant stay motivated to do for more than 2 months at a time

>>42425119
No one responded with a picture so I guess you won

>>42426377
nice

spacing

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>>42427264
Let him be bro he Will Never Know the Sweet life of aesthetics
Pic is my Trensformation

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>>42425018
>Lilliebridges
>natty
Nigga Eric's advice for getting bigger was "up the dose, lift the most"
>>42426227
Where the FUCK is Vytautas Lalas, 5'9" king of all manlets, (I think) the only sub 6 foot winner of the arnold strongman classic aka the real reason why manlets will never learn?

>>42427227

I'm 1.83 and usually wear Ls, very few mediums still fit me and frequently have to go XL to fit chest during the winter.

Also
>recommending the training methods of steroid users training for strength to natural lifters lifting for health and aesthetics

>>42427416
>1.83
>75kgs
You're beyond small. 170 manlets on fit cbt have posted at 80-81 kg natty. You should learn some humility when you're that small and weak.

>pro gymnasts and calisthenics fags roid
Guess no training method is valid for natties? We better stick to pre 1960 programs like Texas method which also requires heavy lifting.

>>42427359
epic gyno

>>42427131
where the fuck is your chin niga like for real why you blocking your face wit ur arm nigga haha

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>>42427480
Lmfao You really tryin too hard to find sth to criticise fatty

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>>42427506
b
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wher the chin

>>42427506
M E A T Y N I P P L E S

>>42427480
>>42427468
>>42427471

No pictures Bros opinion dismissed

>>42427239
Where's your chin?

>>42427523
post yourself nerd

>>42427506
Chinlets when will they learn?

>some ugly roiding beaner fuck starts acting autistic
my favorite

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>>42427506
>posting your face on 4chin
>not having a chin on 4chin
even worse
>roiding for this

Here's what I look like with a few years of natty lifting. Stay mad Reyansh.

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>>42425119
what does one gain from coming out of anonymity on an anonimous board?

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>>42427526
>>42427555
>implying you need to prove you have a better body than a gyno breasted steroid filled chinless street shitter
Lol no.

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>>42425021
I don't know whats funnier, this post or the butthurt it elicits

>>42427468
Alright my man this is me after not having lifted since last week, in an L sized t-shirt, euro, let me know what size I should be wearing to look good enough.

Just weighed myself at 83 after a large meal and a few sodas. I don't doubt I'll hit 77 or so by the end of august.

Can you post a picture of you bigger than me at a similar height and your history of no injuries or joint pain while lifting?

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>>42427468
Oh yeah pic.

>>42427675
>that pose
>pressing your arm against your chest to make it look bigger

>>42427646

Nothing to gain, you only stand to lose. This is why you cut your face out of all the pictures you post, duh.

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>>42427648
Stay jelly my man one day You will achieve aesthetics too and i will be Proud of You

>>42427631
>Makeup remover
GAY!

>>42427693
nipples

>>42427665
>>42427675
You legit need to hit chest way more. Even commercial gym curl bros look bigger and you have balls to come shitposting that you know more than all the pros.

THIS IS WHY YOU GO TO A CHIROPRACTOR REGULARLY U RETARDS

god ppl here are so stupid. lifting with bad posture EVER = you will have problems boyo

chiropractors are mandatory for all ppl who browse fit

P O S T U R E

>>42426384
>dick allegedly larger than calves
really makes me think

>>42427716
Chiropractor are the same as witch doctors.

>>42426531
>100lb bench

LMAO. not lifting heavy would at least be 225...

>>42426531
Well, then what do you do?

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>>42427682

You think if I wanted my bicep to look bigger I'd post an picture without a pump and without flexing?

Alright my man, whatever.

>>42427693
it's really sad if you think you've "achieved aesthetics". Yeah you have muscle mass because you roid but you look like shit

>>42427131
>that face
LMAO. You look like Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite, nigga, hahahaha.

>>42427555
please dont harass me for photos of my body, I'm pretty sure thats illegal

>>42427711
>commercial gym bros overtrain chest because its a glamour muscle so why dont you

>>42427735

I'm a bit under 20 cms, only censoring the dick would be lewd.

>>42427748

Is this supposed to be ironic?

>>42427754

Single leg press right now for legs, incline bench when I can get a spotter but generally smith or dumbbell, single arm cable rows, weighted chins, more cable work for biceps triceps and lat delts.

>>42427807
M8 you have no chest 0 chest you need to overtrain your chest if anything.

>>42427869
not me, I'm dyel by basically anyones standards

>>42427711

I'm not sure you realize I have pectus and my chest can't ever look great.

Here's a picture way before I started lifting, so that there's no muscle to obscure the view. There's a hole in my chest that no matter how much I lift won't fill with muscle because the muscle attaches way further along the chest.

I currently rep out 40 kg dumbells for sets of 10 on the incline and my chest looks worse and worse, I should honestly stop.

>>42424706
>look mom I posted it again

>>42425683

maybe twice as your body weight

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>>42427896

Reposting cause I'd rather not have almost regular res pics of myself on the net.

>>42424706
Just dont go for fucktard 1 rep maxes.
If you train within 6-8 rep ranges and several set on heavy lifts you should be fine.

>>42427931
>Tfw will never one arm curl 160kgs

I pretty much stopped deadlifting after discovering sled push intervals.
The limiting factor in getting volume in for deadlift is your low back. Your spinal erectors will gas way before your glutes or hamstrings. In a sled push, your low back can be locked in place allowing you to exert max force with your hamstrings and glutes. I'd much rather isolate the spinal erectors in back extensions where I can really control for,.

>>42426192
it's painfree

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>>42425021
fucking nailed it

>>42424706
If you're not on drugs you'll never be able to lift too much for deadlift, just maybe stay away from singles. You'll be fine.

>>42424706
what is heavy? over 4pl8s?

>>42427675
You look like you don't lift.

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>>42426531
I know kids who bench, dead, and squat 3x more than you. Have fun being a pussy ur whole life. don't want to overtrain with more than a hundred pounds

a lot of people have herniated discs with no symptoms. no back pain, tight muscles, etc

but a lot of people who deadlift/squat also don't focus on building up the muscles that support the spine, they only focus on glutes/quads/hamstrings, the muscles that are built during deadlifts/squats

maybe if that guy actually took some time to build up his core (true core, not just abdominals) then he wouldn't suffer from any pain and he'd be okay to keep lifting heavy

>>42429623
You can snap your shit up on 315. The problem isn't the weight.
The problem is overuse injuries and the inevitable breaks in form that leads to injury.

Deadlifting and Squating should be done once a week at best.

>>42427716
Why don't I just wear my pants on my head and sacrifice a goat too?

>>42425044
>>42425073
>>42426677
>le /pol/ boogeyman

Fucking get off my /fit/ and go back to your liberal retard land right now.

>>42429678
He's not some SS faggot who just discovered deadlifting last week.

He's an advanced pro lifter with years of heavy lifting under his belt.

>>42429679
If someone snaps up at 315 they have shit form or are a tiny girl, I deadlift every day.

>>42427693
Roiding for waist that looks like you sleep with a corset.

>>42429742
No you don't.

>>42429709

doesn't mean that he took care of his lower back properly

>>42429972
He and his crew were seriously into assistance exercises.

>>42424706
So what is considere heavy weight then? Is it 50kg? 100kg? 200kg? (on squat) Isnt it pretty much relative? Also you cant expect to bench 50kg and look good.

>>42427693
Roids and looks like complete shit. I love fucking with guys like you when I go out because I know all of you queers and easy to knock-out but think you're hard because you roid.

>>42425021
you might have a problem m8

ITT I learned "aesthetic" = dyel

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>>42427648
>>42427693
The white guy looks absolutely better than poo in the loo. Roiding for this.

>>42427131
do milk

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>>42424706

His xrays look fine. His discs are thick, the alignment is fine, there's no fractures. He only has a minor scoliosis and some early arthritis in the facets (the shingle looking things in the back) which is entirely normal for a fat fuck his age.

He's getting PRP (platelet rich plasma) injections which at this point has no evidence of efficacy. Essentially snake oil. Same with stem cell injections, entirely unsupported by any literature. He found some pain specialist joker to shoot him up, probably cash only, no insurance company would pay for unsupported therapies like that.

>or seek a back surgeon
Clearly hasn't seen one. Any good orthopedic surgeon would tell this guy to rest, lose weight, stop roiding, and stop wasting his money.

At what point are you pushing it though? I hot 405 1RM 6 months into training and I want to keep going up if possible.

I'm aiming for 210-230lb body weight surely I could hit 5pl8 without much injury?

>>42430119
ernies form is disgusting the shear force from deadlifting 7-8 hundred pounds with your back will definitely do this to you
eric is consistently lifting heavy and his form is good so he is fine

>>42424706
This is what happens when you do an unsustainable amount of weight over a long period of time I.E. roid weightlifting.

This is the future that half of the roiders get to look forward to.

>>42425833
He talked about what 25 years of lifting and steriod abuse did to his body. Imagine your surprise when you realize weighing 260 lbs lean and dry as fuck and doing the amount of work and effort and steriods to maintain that over the course of 15-20 years isn't fucking healthy. Real ground breaking fucking stuff there anon. Blew my mind for sure.

>>42425021
>mfw i actually like bodyweight exercises.

>>42425683
Opinion based, and body type based. I personally will never bench over 225, maybe pushing it to 275, but that's it. I'd be very worried about my shoulders long term, and don't see the reason to push my bench any higher. Just so I can claim some incredible 1rm?

1/2/3/4 seems like a "moderate" goal.

>>42426297
>lifting for women
good luck in the race war

>>42425021
I actually laughed at this

>>42425044
My girl loves my firm ass you phaggot

>>42427746
only if you live in america they've helped me with pinched nerves and back problems because I was reckless in my younger years in sports

and they barely cost like 10 bucks anyway

>>42424706
Honestly I do swim and ab exercises every other day and have ottermode

I lift high volume because if I train too heavy I get mad hungry, and I mean MAD hungry

>>42425021
Well, the first two would probably still be better for health than going sedentary. I enjoy red meats, and am ambivalent on the idea of veganism.
The second part would depend... and I'm not really sure why you'd let that last thing happen at all.

>>42433152
*loves pegging

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>>42426227
>>42426297
6th from the left now
beauty and power

>>42424706
>argues for heavy lifting being unsustainable
>posts comparison between a literal world record holder and roiders who supposedly trained light, but probably actually lifted heavy by natty standards

>>42429955
Yes I do

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>>42427942
once it's posted, it's in the archive forever
faggot