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/fraud/ - roiding to look like natties general

read all of http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

previously on stupid people general: >>42391305
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First for lolis
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>>42403779
Sequel when?
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>>42403795
Never, fuchur has left us behind with the rest of humanity
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>>42403835
;~;

All I want in life is a sequel with fitness lolis.
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I just found out my older brother is the biggest KEK IN THE WORLD, i just want to fucking slap his fucking cuck head, he can't be my family it's not my genetics he's from another mother from a brother from another sister

fucker just stays by his wife after he discovered SHE CHEATED ON HIM. And it didn't even happen once, but several times with several men.

I just want to inject tren into his brain, maybe that will make him more manly.

I HATE YOU KEKS
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>>42403968
Bruh, my brother was the same.
When I was 19 he brings home a hot chick with a kid, told him then it wouldn't end well.
Two years later he has a kid and is newly married,two years and two months later they're separated and she's taking child support from him.

Later found out that she was cheating on him from basically day one.

Feel so bad for him, but the signs were there.
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>>42404018
fuck it hurt man, i can't stand that weakness

I will never speak to him again, fucking faggot. i don't wanna be associated with that weak ass faggot
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You fags are pathetic
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>>42404062
You spoken to him about it?

If not, try to shake him out of it, he may be a weak willed faggot, but he's your brother - it's your job to pull him out of bad shit when you can.

I wish I had ignored everyone else and just hammered at my brother before he got in too deep.
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>>42403606
WHERE THE FUCK IS BIMBO
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>>42403968
stand on a box and punch him
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>>42404092
Yeah i supported him when he found out. He was devistated. Then he told me he was going to divorce her and removed all her pictures etc. But now he has forgiven her. I suspect he is low test, how can you be otherwise such a cuck.

I told him what he needed to do, but his cuckness was stronger.
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>>42404244
Go to him again, remind him.

Pussy has its fucking ways with your mind, especially once you're married to it.
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>>42404244
Raw dogging pussy essentially lets a woman drug you so she can manipulate you, they secrete oxytocin through their vagina - and also through their tears - where as men dont.
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>>42404109
Got aids, from all the dicks in his bum and now he's died
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>>42404244
maybe u dont know how strong emotion love is Mast. You will feel it someday
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>>42404295
dont say its true
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My asscheek has literally doubled in size and im getting a bit of test flu. Injecting 300mg twice a week. Should I lower the dose?
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>>42402677
>It'll crush SHBG giving a lot more free test for the same total test amount. This also means more estrogen and you may need an AI.

I'm the guy who posted a few days ago who takes 1mg of arimidex per day, this indeed seems to be the case as im on 500mg test-e per week and 10mg LGD-4033 per day.

I'm currently trying 1mg arimidex eod to see if I get high estrogen sides, so far my right nipple seems a bit more sensitive but not 100% sure about it.
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>>42404267
I just want to smash his head so fkcing hard that maybe something will change his way of thinking like a beta male.

>>42404296
Nothing to do with that. This is just pure desperation.

Love Is for faggots. Makes you weak and dependent. You should never depend on someone. Eventually they will abuse you. You have to be in control.
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>>42402927

I can be pretty lazy but when it comes to stuff like staying jacked and asthetic i am very very disciplined.
But i dont know how hard the PCT will fuck with my motivation. When i had high e2 i was feeling extremely shit and didnt want to lift.

>>42402939

Im on 250mg test and have my estro in check and i lost 12 pounds since my blast i shouldnt have that much water or glycogen. Im aware ill lose mass which i can take, but if i twink down and look dyel im gonna a hero.
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>>42404332
When I did it the estro sides handed my ass to me rather quickly. Normally I dont need an ai for 500mg until about 10 weeks in iirc.
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>>42404314
why? you should increase it if anything
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>>42404314
ur prolly injecting into fat, lose the fat or inject into quads and go atleast 1inch deep.

I had flue like symptoms 2 times after injecting. But it stopped after 1 day.
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>>42404314
Is it red?

If you press on it with your finger, does it leave a mark? does your other cheek also leave a mark?

If it's red and it leaves a mark when you press on it with your finger, and your other cheek isn't red and doesn't leave a mark, then it could be infected.
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>>42404370
>Love Is for faggots. Makes you weak and dependent. You should never depend on someone. Eventually they will abuse you. You have to be in control.
Ur non-emotional made me semi, i wish someday to meet you irl and get ur signature on my asscheecks
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>>42404332
>I'm the guy who posted a few days ago who takes 1mg of arimidex per day, this indeed seems to be the case as im on 500mg test-e per week and 10mg LGD-4033 per day.
lol and you didn't think to mention that the first time you asked about your ridiculously high usage of adex?
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>>42404109
man i dont say that often but thats a pretty woman.

>>42404244
i will never understand this. I can understand that people like that still love their gfs/wifes, but i could never in my life live with that humilation. That my own wife has fucked other men behind my back.

I couldnt just stop loving my wife, but never in my life could i look into her eyes again and not see the betrayal
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>>42404395
its a very pale pink compared to my skintone and it does leave a sunburn mark when I press. Im just gonna take some ibuprofen and vitamin c. Hope that does the trick
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>>42404401
I didn't? I thought I did... oh well, guess I fucked up.

I anyhow ran out of LGD yesterday so I wont buy it again and stick to test alone, just wanted to get rid of my last bottle of LGD.
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>>42404441
ikr
>>42404398
im legit thinking about hanging up ur picture on my wall with that text over you. ur honestly most motivational person on this board
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>>42404443
That shouldn't be happening AFAIK, I inject around 250mg twice a week and never had my cheeks getting red. I only ever got post injection pain in my virgin glutes, but my muscles seem to have gotten used to the benz alcohol and I haven't got PIP since weeks.

If I'd get those symptoms I would honestly go to the doc and get some antibiotics tbqh, though maybe someone with more experience can give a better answer.
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>>42403968
>>42404018
You guys have such faggots for brothers, Jesus Christ.

My brother cheated on all of his past girlfriends multiple times.
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>>42404508
>you guys have such faggots for brothers
>my brother who does the exact opposite isnt a total faggot tho

ok

>>42404491
woah there senpai, mind posting all of your best ones?

i have this
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>>42404441
I feel the pain more than he does. I can never look him in the face anymore.

He is not my brother anymore. No brother of my would act this way. The best is just to do like he doesn't exist.

>>42404508
If i could control people's lives, we would all be big ripped alpha males with beards.
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>>42404332
>1mg ed of arimidex

You do know that you need estrogen in your body to function properly right?

There is no way in hell that your nips are sensitive with that dose. You're being a massive hypochondriac.

Lower the AI usage or find out the hard way.
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>>42404662
can i have a daily pic of u Mast i need some inspiration
>>42404571
only kseniya
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>>42404680
1mg isnt unheard of. There's still going to be some conversion.

Its also like total test vs free test, with very low SHBG then not much estrogen is going to get bound to SHBG, eg low total e2 but higher free e2.

Also, it takes time for your nipple sensitivity to go down, if you did crash your estro/free estro then its not going to be reflected in your nipples straight up, itll take time for them to recover too.
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>>42404662
sneek into his bedroom at night and shoot his ass with 5 grams of tren. its the only solution.

>>42404723
lame senpai
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>>42404770
such is life
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>>42404680
Yes, I know. I've tried 0.25mg eod, 0.5mg eod and increased all the way up to 1mg ed until my nipples were no longer sensitive. They started getting sensitive on my 2nd or 3rd week of test and I've been taking 0.25mg eod since the beginning of my cycle.

I can only guess going by what others are saying, that LGD massively effects your free test and estro.

Even at 1mg/day I wasn't getting any low estro sides like dry/painful joints, and I was taking that dose for at least a few weeks... pretty insane if you ask me.
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>>42404662
Love is a bitch, my mom cheated on my dad and they're also still together.
I've had lots of talks with my dad, he has zero friends because of her.

These days hes making friends but man those were some rough days. My dads love is unconditional even though he'll never trust her again, hell he asked me to install a keylogger on her laptop. I did.

I could never imagine staying with my girl if she cheated, even if my heart tells me to stay. But if that moment ever comes.... who knows.
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>>42404940
Any woman that cheats on you isn't worth your time and commitment, it's always best to move on.

It doesn't matter how long you're together either and it also doesn't matter if you're 'getting old'.

I've read plenty of stories of guys who got young women in their 40s because their wives started cheating or were starting to become unbearable. It's better to take the risk and try getting a 20-24 year old hottie than stay with a 30-35 year old slag who cheats on you. You will never be happy in that relationship.

I honestly wouldn't give a damn if I had children, I'd still leave her.
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>>42404940
I told my wife I'll stay with her through anything except infidelity.
I told her gambling, drug addiction, I can work through - no way in hell could I be with someone who does that shit.
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>>42403968
Fuck man that hurts, talk some sense into him. What a fucking weakling.
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>>42404940
Shit, that's even worse. I'm not sure if i could handle that
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>>42404443
>>42404314
That's not test flu, you literally have an infection. Get on some antibiotics man.
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>>42405019
>I told my wife I'll stay with her through anything except infidelity.

I honestly find this ridiculous, simply because you know she'd divorce your ass if you lost your job or you got cancer.

Women are fucking cruel, don't give them your unconditonal love as they don'T deserve it, they will NEVER reciprocate.

Have a friend who was fighting cancer and survived. During the time he was fighting cancer his wife was pregnant. What did she do?

She conveniently 'fell out of love' with him, aborted the child, and left him.
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Anyone seen the documentary Icarus? It's about a guy who finds some guy to help him avoid being caught by drug tests while being on steroids and taking part in different amateur competitions. Seems interesting
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>>42405085
If my wife was like that, I wouldn't have married her.
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>>42405128
That's what he thought as well, otherwise he wouldn't have married her and wouldn't have wanted to have kids with her.

They planned having the kid, but after she got pregnant he got diagnosed with cancer and things went downhill from there.
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>>42405119
Nobody cares about your netflix normie bullshit. It's not exactly hard to beat amateur comps. The stupidity of that concept boggles my mind. It would be something if it was a WADA tested athlete doping and beating the system . Netflix docs are cancer
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>>42405148
Well, she is isn't his wife now is he. People are different. It's silly to generalize an entire gender.
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>>42404443
Hey bro I'm a retard who was too scared to go to hospital when this happened to me

Slightly off colored pink, warm to the touched, hurts slightly when pressing too hard? On the road to infection like I was.

What did I do? Waited it out like a man cause I ain't a pussy. It started to go away after a few days then was gone but I forgot when. Just inject other cheek. If it happens again throw your vial away shit is fucked.

Anyways you'll probably be fine. If it gets worse instead of better over the course of a few days RIP go to hospital.
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First time in awhile I haven't woken up horrifically depressed. I'm not trying to act naive but I may have finally stuffed this opiate addiction. Looking in the mirror is disgusting, I am a shrunken unremarkable fuckboy.

I have tons of tren e NPP and test. Time for first blast?
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>>42405172
what's npp
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>>42405172
Good for you man.

Start with test, add tren later.
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>>42405172
I'm taking tri-tren and test e

feeling p good you should defo do it
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>>42405157
>What did I do? Waited it out like a man cause I ain't a pussy. It started to go away after a few days

this is prolly the worst advice someone could give to him.

same as the people who suggest to work out when you have fever lmfao
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>>42405219
yeah probably but as long as it's not getting worse than your body is handling it like a normal infection and you'll be fine
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>>42405230
inb4 the infection spreads to his testicles.
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>>42405266
>straight to the tip
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>>42405201
Nanadrolone phenyl propionate
>>42405205
Thanks I'm already on TRT test, gonna double the dose after I get some BP and AI meds
>>42405213
What's your tren and test dose? I'm fairly mentally unstable so will stay low for awhile to feel things out
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>>42405307
400tren 600test mg/w
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>>42404398

Emotions don't make you week. Not having control over your emotions is why you are weak.
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why is 500mg/wk test agreed upon by everyone as the ideal first cycle?

not disagreeing but I see it everywhere. occasionally with dbol kickstarter
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>>42405332
Woman by nature are weak by this analogy (I agree tho)
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>>42405329
What's the current consensus on test and tren ratios? I want good feels not suicidal ideation lol
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>>42405343
cause it's a decent amount
dbol is a must, only cause dbol is amazing
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>>42405360
idk dude you shouldn't be thinking too much about suicide at least not more than normal
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>>42405360
afaik low test high tren is best.
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>>42405374
>>42405389
So do folks ever feel GOOD on tren? My buddy has ruined relationships on it and he complains about how angry and nearly psycho it makes him feel. I already have severe self worth problems, maybe I should save the tren until I'm in a mentally better place. I'm quite fragile but I'm working on it, my brain needs to repair and I'm pretty sure tren promotes neurodegredation.

I think I'll just go for 350-500mg test a week and proper AI and BP control for now. See where that gets me over a couple months.
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>first time deadlifting, cleaning, and squatting in years
>with 13ml of pip
Oh lord jesus

>>42405374
Tren exacerbates your mood
If youre in a depression, it can make it very deep
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>>42405148
your mate still alive? hope you're supplying him with high end gear.
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>>42405538
I feel amazing on tren I think it's just how you put yourself mentally on tren, if you let it make you feel good then you will
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>>42405584
yeah but the higher test usually fixes the depression for most males
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>>42405584
13ml? What you running?
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>>42405149
Rude
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>>42405584
Haha the fucking madman, he actually injected 13ml in a single spot.
Do you have huge syringes or did you leave the needle in and switch syringes while injecting or how did you do it Jer?
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>>42405744
one huge ass syringe that takes 35min to push
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>>42405626
Thats not actual depression then
Thats bein a lil bitch

>>42405656
Front loaded eq

>>42405744
I split it between quads
I have 20ml syringes for brewin, but I didnt use those

Its just I haven't injected over .5ml in years as well and im paying for it

I dont thunk ive used alot of these muscles in years, sweet jesus
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I've got about a quarter of a vial of tren ace left over from 6 months ago, if I pasteurise it in a hot water bath do you think it's good to use again? Planning on starting B&C soon and it seems a shame to throw it away.
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>>42405864
is it cloudy?
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>>42405538
I quite like it. I've always had a bad temper so I learned to control it over the years and tren doesn't make it too much harder. I'm probably better on it because I'm even more alert to signs of impending rage than usual.

I'm pretty lucky with steroid sides though, none of them seem to hit me badly. That is except high blood pressure, but I was like 15% bf not doing any cardio when that happened.
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>>42405879
Nope. Orange as fuck and looks the same as the day I bought it.
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>>42405952
should be good, I used one that I drew from like a year earlier with no issues didn't hot bath it or anything
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Reminder to go to church
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>>42404924
I can confirm, I'm taking even more than that on 600mg test a week with lgd, added in dbol and I almost have to start wearing a bra kek
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how srs are the fertility issues?

I'm thinking of pct in 10 weeks until next year
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What the fuck is going on?

I'm just on babby first cycle of 500mg test-e. No estro sides as far as I knoe. But I squeezed my nip and got clear droplets of fluid. Since when did test increase prolactin?

HOW DO I FIX THIS PLEASE HELP
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>>42406065
>But I squeezed my nip
Stop doing that. Most men are able to get a very small amount of fluid out of their nips if they squeeze hard enough.
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>>42406080
Okay. I guess it might just be coincidence. Only started squeezing my nips checking for gyno recently. Guess I could always produce fluid.
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>>42406031
It's saturday you dumb jew
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>>42406116
The more you touch em the higher the chance you'll induce gyno.

Just wait until they get itchy or sore.
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Is it worth adding an oral on your first cycle(test E600mg/wk 15weeks) if i'm aiming for a lean bulk
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>>42406080
>>42406237
tfw I have to keep telling my gf to stop sucking and rubbing my nipples
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>>42406270
Depends on the oral. Something dry can be a good finisher to a cycle.
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>>42406797
Like winny for last 6 weeks? Is it worth adding if i'm gonna be on a little sulprus? Is it not just a waste?
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>>42403968
>just stays by his wife after he discovered SHE CHEATED ON HIM
Wasn't your bro like 21 right now. Getting married at that age, didn't you expect him to be a cuck.

But yeah, disgusting either way.
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>>42407219
older brother
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>>42407238
Oh, right. Thought he only had one bro.

At least the genetically blessed one still isn't wasted.
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>>42406031
Reminder that you aren't actually pious and just attend because you're mentally ill and people refuse to accept you in other social climates.
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who here on /cruise4life/? low T and just started TRT, fml.
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>>42406197
I'm Australian you fucking third-world scum.

>>42407265
Yes. Church is good place to just think and reflect.
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>>42407703
Fucking trip
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>>42407703
So is the gym or the library or literally anywhere. Just admit you're "zealous" because you lack in other capacities as a person and in life. No one wants you elsewhere.
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>>42407728
Why must you hurt me in such ways?

I'm genuinely not as retarded IRL as I'm here.
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>>42407747
You stalked your girlfriend on her birthday and made her cry. You're 100x worse in person kek
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10 weeks into my first test cycle of 500mg a week. First time in my life I've actually made gains. My plan was to do 16 week cycles and 8 week cruises until I hit my goal look, but now I'm thinking about just doing a full year blast @500mg test a week. Is there any incredible danger to this? I never plan on fully coming off AAS so permanent shutdown isn't a concern.
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>>42407776
he did what?
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>>42407800
you retarded nigger, dont blast for a full year.

Do your 500 test blast for 16 weeks, then cruise on 250mg instead of 125. You will keep all your gains but dont rip you heart apart with a 12 months blast you retarded nigger jew.

Idiots like you trigger me so hard.
>kek iks de lmao blast 500 for a full year daz a good idea xD :DDDDDDDDDDD

hang yourself
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>>42407874
Ah yeah mr reasonable here got flagrantly unstable when his girlfriend stayed out later than expected on her birthday drinking with her friend. He stalked her to the bar and then berated her until she sobbed apologizing out of fear lmao he's a real bastion of stability
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>>42407896
>Don't do this cycle you'll die
>Kill yourself
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>>42407523
what's the worst that can happen if you cruise for life? I imagine that's what everyone competitor strongman/bodybuilder has to do, eventually.
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>>42407896
You must not be a fan of George leeman huh, he actually suggests to stay on forever and just keep upping the dose
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>>42404371
Any pics? I want to cycle for the first time and looked at test-e 250 for like 12 weeks. 6' 200 atm
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>>42407896
t. retarded newbie
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>>42405006
Sunk cost fallacy yup
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Does test make you lose weight?
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>>42407896
There's really nothing wrong with 500 year round if e2 and bloods are cool.
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>>42408669
No.
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How should I go about disposing of a vial with gear left in it? Pretty sure I have some underdosed/bunk test, and I'm hesitant to throw a vial half-full of oil into my sharps box. I feel like I'm supposed to dump it down the sink or something.
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>>42409591
throw it on the street. who gives a shit dude?
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>>42409617

>throw it on the street

I'm not a fucking animal. What kind of ghetto do you live in where people just throw glass on the road?
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>>42409636
ur spooked bro go read stirner fucking dumb spooked fuck lol
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the great ting about quads pinning quads is u can pin different spots on ur quad u got:
upper quad
upper upper middle quad
upper midle quad
midle quad
lower midle quad
lower lower midle quad
lower mdidle quad
lower quad
then
upper upper outer quad
upper middle outer quad
all the quads
youve got 20 quads
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>>42407800
You can do it, especially with a compound like test, but it's a waste of gear imo. AFAIK you start to get diminishing returns for reasons which I'm not quite clear on, so it makes more sense to either cycle or blast and cruise.
That being said 500mg of test/ week for a year probably won't kill you, so if you want to do it go for it and report back.
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>>42405332
Well said m8.
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>>42409591
Just pour it down the drain it will balance out all the estrogen they put in our water supply.
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>>42409727

good job buddy
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>>42407776
What? Her birthday? Are you retarded? She went out to celebrate a friends birthday.
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How the fuck do people like Arnold have multiple kids when I read reports of people online doing mild cycles with PCT and becoming totally impotent?
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hands feel a little swollen. is this the test?
first pin yesterday
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>>42410343
Because not everything you read online is true.
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>>42410373

I'm talking about people reporting their own experiences, not hysterical articles about roids.
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>>42410189
kek Not him but that doesn't really make abusing her any better. Seek therapy fuck face.
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>>42410343
>>42410432
do you have any idea how hard it is to develop male birth control for actual scientists trying to come up with it? nobody makes themselves infertile (not impotent btw) with just steroids. if you come off, your body will eventually go back to normal. hell even on cycle usually you become "medically" infertile which means stuff like the viability of your sperm is below 50%, not 0%. all it takes is one.

>regarding the use of testosterone as a "male birth control":
>The contraceptive effect of all MHC regimens is completely reversed within 4 to 6 months. Once treatment stops, it takes a while for a man's body to begin making hormones in pretreatment quantities. Once the pretreatment levels of hormones are restored, the first immature sperm are produced in the seminiferous tubules. It takes 2½ months for these first immature sperm to become fully functional as they travel through the epididymis.
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>>42410432
>people online are totally honest about everything
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>>42410514

>I'm just gonna lie to make my whole life look a bad joke
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>>42410488
I didn't abuse her nigger faggot. I actually apologised to her first for my behaviour because I felt bad. Then she turned it around and apologised to me for not keeping her promises.

SO KYS GAYLORD
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>>42410363
bump
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>>42410550
don't let the trolls get to you. wasn't really that big of a thing like you say. she stayed out late and etc.
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>>42410620
Unless your test is really GH it's completely unrelated and you're fine.
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>>42410550
You literally stalk women. End your life cucksader. You're pathetic.
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>>42410718
I stalk the one that is mine, stay jelly virgin
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>>42410727
the fact that you cant see the problem is worrying in its self and by the way we are watching it get worse.

People are saying shit to be dicks others however arent, I seriously believe that you will eventually cause her harm, you cannot control yourself
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>>42410846
nah
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>>42411042
yah
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>>42411042
Exactly.
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>>42406052
Plenty of pros with kids. Plenty without. You roll the dice but hcg/hmg are pretty good if It's just kids and not restoring your natural test
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I need to get back on a cycle :(
Went from being shredded in college and making roids in my lab to dad bod in just 2 years working in research post college.
Switched to work at a trading firm.
Now I need to get back at it
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>>42411308
huh, my shit is different than it was 3-4 years ago. Used to come up like "A32! some other assortment of bullshit"
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Has anyone here came to the conclusion they just have bad genetics when it comes to building muscle?

It's a pretty tough pill to swallow, I feel like a 5'7 guy who is busting his ass trying to become a professional basketballer
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>>42411352
Has anyone here came to the conclusion they still don't know how to train or eat when it comes to building muscle?
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>>42411352
>>42411362

>be low test natty
>still make more gains than some guys who are on all kinds of juice
>only eat garbage and train purely for strength

Genetics are fucking weird.
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>>42411362
Righhht, I've been training for 7 years but still don't know what I'm doing

You shouldn't just go around assuming everyone is as stupid as you
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I'm 6'0 tall and 200lbs. Was a fat fuck and topped out at 380lbs. What should my first cycle be?
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>>42411352
Yep at 176cm and 75kg around 12% bf and I've been stuck around this weight for like 2 years now. I still make progress but its just really really slow nowadays. My natty potential sucks.
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Should I up my tren ace from 50mg to 75mg or 100mg per day? Why?
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>>42412016
What else are you taking?
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>>42412016
Her head looks to big for her body somehow.. it's like they are from 2 different people.

Also subcutaneous injections with 22 gauge fucking suck.. placed an order like 2 weeks ago but still didn't get my 30".
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>>42412016
>Should I up my tren ace from 50mg to 75mg or 100mg per day? Why?

Going overseas for 2 weeks visiting senpai in third world country.

Have been sitting on 200mg test, 400 trenE. Starting at least 100mg ED all the way to 200mg ED for 4 weeks. Drop everything before I go, inject 400mg test and take my aromasin,caber and nolva with me. Just chill for 2 week overseas and not give so much of a fuck.
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>>4240972
>not having 5 quad quads
almost like people don't want to make it
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FUCK, vacation has ended.

Tomorrow starts the wage cuck slavery again.

I feel school sick.

I can't wait till start blasting again with lots of carbs and blow the fuck up. Tired of looking like a flat pancake. LOW CARB IS FOR THE STRONG

DECA, DROL AND TEST GONNA BE, WE GONNA BE. Time to leave dyel mode
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REMINDER:
=========
No matter how much you inject steroids, no matter how unnaturally big your muscles get, you will still ALWAYS BE a scared little beta-as-fuck cunt on the inside. All the bullies at your school, your stepfathers, all your enemies that drove you to use steroids, will STILL have no problem DOMINATING you at will. Women will STILL look down on you, mock you, and DISREGARD you. You will NEVER be a true 'alpha male' no matter how much horse hormones you shoot into your manlet asses. NEVER.
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>>42413340
your delts bigger than my head, whats ur routine on them
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Does going on test e give you more energy to workout?
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>>42413444
no thats why people inject in first place to have less energy to workout
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>>42413376
I know this is bait, but damn i dominate everyone on sight. I just love to eye cuck everyone. Just eye lock them for a good 10 seconds and then they will quickly stare at the ground like a beta.

and woman? kek, they're fucking whores. No loyal woman is constantly checking me out when she's with her boyfriend holding hands. It's insane how they just don't even care. Happens all the time.

>>42413440
it won't give you better delt genetics.

makes no sense to copy someones routine
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>>42413460
Thanks
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>>42413479
>They're turning their eyes away because they don't want to laugh in your face at how ridiculous you look
>They're 'checking you out' because you look like a circus sideshow freak
Keep being delusional
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>>42413376
>implying we're all scared beta itches
>implying we all got bullied in school
>implying we all have stepfathers
>implying we're roiding because of our 'enemies'
>implying we all get dominated
>implying women always looked down on us, mocked us or disregarded us

The projection in your post is quite revealing of your insecurities and your past, anon. Might want to get some counseling.

Hint: not even a single 'point' you made applied to me, and I seriously doubt those are the reasons why someone starts roiding.
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>>42413535
>denial
>>
>tfw you wanna start roiding to fight in the evetual race war and to be "racist" in public whenever you want

Do you huge fraudsters say whatever you like?
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>>42413485
u very welcome
>>42413479
but greenest kai told me that genetics dont matter wtf
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>>42413508
I dunno man, most woman also say shit like wowwww good looking, and want to touch my arms, and bite their lips when i pass by. But i mostly love it when their boyfriend is with them and he just knows i am a threat to them. You just see those fear in his eyes. lmao

Does that makes any sense to you? Oh no, of course not, you're a perma virgin wizard who isn't aware of any of those signs. My bad.

But really that doesn't bother me much. I just love to dominate dyels like you, just the fear in your eyes. The ultimate hate and crying for help, that is driving me to go on. That really makes my dick hard like diamonds. It's no joke, it's the truth!!!

>>42413564
He just want you to feel better about yourself, sorry. It's like, it's like telling Santa isn't real. Heart breaking, almost
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>>42413583
>making up stories
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>>42413598
his mental health has gone to shit

kids dont do roids
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Have any of you guys done LSD while on cycle?
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>>42413598
Trust me, come to my place.

We lift together, I learn you how to be big and we will get all the mires you dream of. I am reasonable man, not afraid to prove anything

I am the only one over here that isn't afraid to prove anything.

>>42413608
Who cares about mental health. LOOKS is the only thin what matters in life. ALPHA LOOKS, dominate every cuck on sight is what your life goal is
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>>42413608
LOL it's true, steroids fuck with your brain. After enough time passes using them they exhibit all the symptoms of typical drug addicts.
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>>42413632
>Internet Tough Guy wants to fight me
>>
I have almost no doms today. I am very disappointed.

I should have done more deads yesterday
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>>42413643
I never said anything about fighting. You said i made up stories and now I propose to prove my innocence.

Come one, just face it, you're just jealous. There is no need to be all defensive about it m8.
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>>42413677
Okay. Post address, day and time, and a pic of your face, with timestamp, so I know who to look for.
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>>42413693
you aint shit nigga stop talkin shit nigga
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>>42413693
You already have seen my face. I posted it here numerous times.

SURE i am gonna post my address on 4chan

Where do you live?
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>>42413709
>>42413715
>talks a good game
>nothing to back it up
>full of shit
>delusional as fuck
lel
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If I ever get terminally ill I'll kill all the people I hate, including major youtubers
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>>42413709
>unironically uses the word 'nigga'
>wouldn't dare even THINK that word around actual blacks
kek

Just admit it: like 99% of /fit/ doesn't lift, none of you inject anything, you just repeat shit you read on r_e_d_d_i_t steroid forums
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>>42413734
Just boggles my mind people really take their time and effort to write such meaningless post.

You contribute nothing but cringe, just don't post here anymore it just hurts to watch.
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Girlfriend broke up with me recently, is it ridiculous that I already have multiple things planned with multiple different girls soon? I'm blasting out of my mind rn so I need this release or my dick will explode
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>>42413715
>You already have seen my face. I posted it here numerous times.
Well then you shouldn't have any qualms whatsoever about posting a brand-new pic, with proper 4chan-approved timestamp. How about shoe-on-head? That works for me.

>SURE i am gonna post my address on 4chan
Oh, so you were just kidding, LOL, sure you were.
>posts big badass-sounding challenge: >>42413632
>>>>42413632
>"Trust me, come to my place."
>totally renegs on it two posts later: >>42413715
>>42413715
>"SURE i am gonna post my address on 4chan"
I'd call you a 'paper tiger' but I don't want to offend the other paper tigers by conflating you with them, LOL
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>>42413795
>dont fall for it
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Guys, sometimes I get this pain in my heart, like. I don't know if it is in my heart but it definately feels like it my heart is in pain. Like there is some problem with arteries or some shit. I had studies done at the start of the year and my heart looked fine, but it keeps hurting. Is that normal?
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>>42413826
>He can't take it, not even on the internets
>Must scream like a little girl and runs away when confronted face to face
BETA AS FUCK, just like I said before
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>>42413870
No. See a doc
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>>42413870
>injects horse hormones
>wonders why his GODDAMNED HEART HURTS
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>>42413870
Have you started roids?
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>>42413853
Are you fucking retarded. You think i am gonna post my address over here, so people can send homosexual hookers and pizzas to my home. Good thinking

Place as in, a meeting spot of course. I thought you were able to think about this yourself, but i am setting the bar too high for you faggots.

Again. Where do you live?

>>42413874
What indicates that i can't take it, according to your beta cuck analytics

elaborate please
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Well this has been fun and all, even if it's just too easy to get you steroidfags all flustered, but I have other things to do today so I'm out of here.

Remember: Injecting horse chemicals doesn't fix your being a beta manlet. Stay in school. kthxbye
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I take it back, I have enough doms
Almost died bending over to get something from the bottom shelf of the fridge
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>>42413964
>Again. Where do you live?
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW. Washington, D.C.
Just tell the doorman you're there about the steroids, he'll know where to take you.

>What indicates that i can't take it,
Everything I've read here today. xD xD xD

For further information, read this: >>42413966
>The Moar You Know xD
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>>42413870
Hey dude, I don't roid but I get the same exact feeling you described.
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>>42413870
Could be also your lungs.

Take coq10

http://openheart.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000326

>>42413989
I live in the Netherlands.

If you're willing to travel to here, give me your mail we're gonna meet
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is anyone naturally low t? i'm trt4life, so i'm kinda worried of the future.
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For /fraud/sters, dumb bell bench low weight high rep for size? Yes/no?
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>>42413989
>935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW. Washington, D.C.
herp derp FBI address
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If I get on gear, can I skip rest days and still make gains? Today is a rest day, and I am bored as shit
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>>42414147
Do a machine work out for high rep instead of heavy weight. Leg press, chest press, pull down.
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>>42414162
That just does not sound satisfying
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>>42414209
It is when you grind out 10-15 reps on the leg press just managing it for 3 sets, then drop the weight without rest for a fourth set and punch out high rep to failure.

The tight quad feeling is good. Feat positioning can shift more load to glutes or ham strings if you have a weak point you want to train up.

It improved my squat.
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>>42414238
thanks for the feedback anon
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>>42414304
You're welcome Francois
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>>42404109
Bimbo's waiting room
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>>42414027
inb4 mocro
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these threads should be filled with educated steroid talk but instead its just an even finer magnifying glass on the dysfunction and neuroticism of the board in general

masT is probably one of the more sane and balanced folks here yet you have fuckos coming in here to tell him he doesnt look like a fuckin god

>>42413964

i used to hate u masT but that was just my insecurities

u rock dad
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>>42414027
What city you from? I always hope i'd one day run into you and ask for a pic together lol
Nijmegen here btw
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>>42414147
do some cardio bruh

swing some kettlebells

do foam rolling mobility and stretching

practice jiu jitsu

read a book fag
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>>42415174
>these threads should be filled with educated steroid talk

They are. Just read between the lines.
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>>42414100

I am. Too young for a prescription (talking to a different doc about it tomorrow though), so I'm on UGL gear since February. I'm mostly concerned about long-term fertility and traveling with my gear. I've heard that HCG can help with the first point, but I'd need a prescription to safely travel with gear.
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Anyone in the UK currently at or going to Southampton university?
Or anyone live in Bournemouth?
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>>42415174
>dad
kill yourself mongrel
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250 mg test-e p/w. How much will this improve my lifting and muscle growth? Is it worth it? I think i read somewhere that a study showed dbol only gave a 3% to 5% improvement (using a low dosage think it was 20mg a day). How does test-e compair?
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>>42415210
traveling with TRT is going to be a nightmare, fuck.

>tfw will never be able to go to japan without being hanged for low t
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>>42415308
atleast 200% to all lifts lean muscle mass increases like 10kg in first cycle if u do everything poorly 15kg if good and totally not worth it. also i hope ur not using any AI so ur estro boosts ur muscle growth more. PS. use 100mg dbol a day to get all benefits out of dbol 50mg morning/50 night
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>>42415308
>250mg test-e
Just why?

If you're going to incur the risk of ordering illegal steroids, injecting possible toxic substances twice a week and dealing with possible sides at least make the reward something worth it.

There is a base level of risk associated with UGL steroids that you are not compensating with adequate reward when you take such shit cunt dosages.

Take sicc cunt doses. The only exception to the rule is those who are self-medicating TRT.
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>>42415360
Lmao you're so full of shit. Go bully more women beta.
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>>42415308
Depends on your current levels and how much higher 250mg will put you. It can be pretty high for some people.

How much.. ymmv. There's too many factors (above being one) as well as individual response, training, diet, how long you will do it, any other steroids or compounds stacked..etc.


basically, how long is a piece of string?

>>42415353
Hhahaha, gear is legal in Japan, you can import "one months supply" without prescription. You basically can bring your test E with you. Though I guess it depends on how much they classify as one month and whether 10ml of 250mg/ml is over.

Its not a banned/illegal substance like narcotics so the worst theyll do is take it off you (Ive imported raw steroids by mail and had it held up by customs asking me about it and saying the anadrol powder I had was too much and asked if I wanted to take that out and forward the rest of the steroids to me or send it back to sender).

Just dont bring syringes or needles with you.

You can get them locally. You can also get gear domestically in Japan delivered to your address in Japan for cash on delivery, with pins too.

thu atto tutanota dat com if you need info about great nippon
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are steroids like going through puberty again? I feel like the opportunities I didn't capitalize on my natural high test phase with gains/girls can be had again while on gear
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>>42415384
I mean, you're not wrong but you're still wrong.
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>>42415360
Low doses meme.
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I work as a carpenter and do weightlifting on the side, 100% natty and now my knees have started to hurt. That's pretty standard fare in my job, but I have read that there are some types of steroids that are good for helping joints heal. I'm not primarily interested in juicing for muscle gains, I just want to be able to keep working without knee pain. Are there any type of steroids you guys can recommend a guy in my situation looks into?
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>>42415357
>no ai
>100mg dbol

Shoo shoo gyno jew

>dbol
fucking dbol

Just 20-30mg dbol split dose
>Skyrocketed BP
>Headaches
>Gyno
>Other estro issues
>Cant sleep because of that


Anadrol > Dbol (unless youre completely estro insensitive and highly progestin sensitive at the same time which is unlikely)

100mg both all at once and split dose
No additional BP raise over what your test base gives you
No gyno
No headaches
No real issues
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>>42415384
hes right tho, its one thing to cruise on 250mg for a long time, but doing a cycle with 250mg test e is just simply retarded.
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>>42415442
>he tought i was being srs
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>>42415439
Nandrolone/Deca just masks it desu and doesnt fix the problem (though it may prevent injury somewhat by packing additional water around it, but this is typically mitigated by people lifting more and putting more stress on it).

If you want healing for that, Ostarine at 50mg ED (considered high dose for Osta) will significantly help it out and heal it. It really doesnt do much for me in gains at all, but it was no joke when it came to healing, nothing else came close to it at all (I have not tried BPC157 or TB500 however)
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>>42415439

Growth hormone is supposed to help with joints. It's super expensive, though.
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>>42415401
if you look like a bitch boy, yes it kind of is. It doesnt change you as a person, but the test actually made me look like a man. I dont look childish anymore
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>>42415475
>but the test actually made me look like a man
these are too big statements to leave without proof man
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>>42415523
wut
If you have a faggot face with soft subtle facial features the test is going to make your entire body and face look more masculine.

>testosterone makes you look more masculine?
>pics or didnt happen.
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>>42415475
Can confirm, I look more masculine when it comes to my face.
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>>42415559
I wanted pics of you so I can masturbate man pls u do this to me
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>>42405538
Tren causee neurons in your hippocampus to suicide. Pretty big deal. Probably won't ever touch the stuff myself. Deca/npp as well... dopamine system is sketchy senpai. Test/mast/eq if you're concerned about mental sides like me.
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Anyway to go about getting rid of gyno from test/deca? Will prami reduce the size of already formed gyno?
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>>42415469
>>42415472

Thanks, I will look into those
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>>42415630
surgery time m8
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>>42415578
i wonder if it will go away once i PCT. I hope not.

>>42415582
im not going to post my face.
Im also not saying i look like chad, just that i look more masculine than i did 1 year ago, thanks to the test.
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>>42415687
Lets pray it won't.
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>>42415174
At least you're honest. I can respect that.

>>42415687
Masteron blew up my jaw. But i remembered that when i went off it made it less prominent. Btw are you aware of the pct acne? Do you have Accutane on hand, because you definitely need that. That's the main reason i stay on now. The pct acne made me crazy and only Accutane got rid of it. Which almost made me kill myself.
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Lads, I've got my first endo appointment this week about 3 months after my dick went to shit and my doctor referred me over elevated prolactin. What do I ask the endo for? I pretty much just want them to check everything because I have all the sypmtoms of low test but my doctor's limited test didn't show a problem there.
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Tomorow I'll be hopping back on the Tren train.

Will be going 250mg Test, 200mg Mast and 600mg Tren.

Anything else I should do/add?
Wish me luck.
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>>42416265
What's your reaction to Mast?
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>>42415909
so overall DHT-based steroids can have permanent jaw gains?
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>>42416280
Great at any dose.
Notice no sides, do notice hardening.

Its more cosmetic then mass building.
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who here pins chest? I'm thinking about trying it. you're not supposed to pin delts everyday but i do anyway and they're getting sore and red. i don't like quads or glutes, looking for an alternative
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>>42416595
I always imagine going between my ribs and stabbing right in my abused heart.

Glutes are the easiest, why avoid those?
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>>42415909
yeah im aware of the PCT acne and i expect it to be savage.

My plan was to just wait out until the breakout is over and im recovered. I mean my PCT is gonna take 12 weeks, so the acne should vanish at some point.

I am going to take Pantethine and L-carnitin tho, i have tried it out recently and it was the only "natural" remedy that actually helped with my current acne.

Im also scared off accutane
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Current cycle:

Tren A(50 ED)/Test E(150 E3D)/Mast P(50 ED)

Thinking about changing Tren to 75 or 100mg tomorrow.

Lookin to get to 8% from around 12-15%, then wanting to move to Test/Deca/Dbol.

Running ECA alongside but might drop it depending if sides are harsh from tren.

What time frame am I looking at for 50 Tren ED vs 100 Tren ED?

Also, general thoughts?
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>>42416890
Current physique?
If you cut aggresively you'll drop quickly as well ofcourse.
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>>42416616
either i got the wrong spot or my pins aren't long enough because i had a bad reaction to it, like extremely sore and red and hard. someone on here said i might be allergic to the oil?
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>>42416913?
Would you be able to give an example of an aggressive cut? Lost around 20+lbs so far since June

Sorry mate I don't wanna post pic. I hate how people quickly attribute all gains to gear, so just pretend to be a natty.
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How typical is testy atrophy, and should I get into hcg to counter it?
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>>42416930
If you'd be allergic to the oil wouldn't your body react regardless of pin site?

You might have had a bad pip, I've got a lump before, goes away after a day.
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>>42416650
That pct acne is no ordinary acne like from estrogen. It's aggressive af and will stay there. It can guarantee it won't go away without any form of meds like Accutane.

I am not kidding it's fcking worse. I tried anything until I was hopeless enough to go on Accutane.
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>>42416962
Upping the Tren and supplementing with t3 (tren downregulates thyroid) and you'll lose weight like crazy around a 2k kcal diet and might even gain muscle in the process.

You're on gear, and even when natty people love to yell gear. I'm just curious.
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>>42416983
Are we talking regular or cystic acne?

Also MasT, what province do you live in? Would actually love to meet you one day.
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>>42416972
yeah its been pretty terrible these past few weeks honestly, next cycle I'm just sticking with twice a week injections. ed is too much for me apparently
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when will this feelgood shit kick in.I pinned like 2 days ago :-(
tired of feeling depressed from being low t.
i've got test and mastE. should i just pin lots of mast or something?
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>>42417048
Rotate sites more, I pin ED and have 6 spots I go trough clockwise.

>>42417050
>pinned 2 days ago
>on a long ester

Have patience, give it a couple of weeks.
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>>42416983
yeah i believe you its aggressive as hell, but you cant tell me the PCT acne is going to stay PAST my PCT.
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>>42417016
>>42417016
Cystic. It's no joke. Even after the second Accutane cycle i got it during the second pct.

South and you?
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>>42417091
High doses of Tren give me cystic backne, they'll stick around but go away after a while.

Limburger here, Heerlen/Maastricht.
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>>42417068
i started quads and it was unbearable a couple days later like the worst leg day of all time, tried glutes but i was afraid i got an abscess or something, delts are fine but they're sore as shit because I'm pinning there too often. what else? abs? chest?
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>>42415657
if you want to up your gh without pinning expensive stuff a good way to boost your natual gh is using mk677. you can take it orally and you don't have to refrigerate it
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>>42417119
Quads take time to get used to, I walked around like a criple the first 2 pins. Smooth sailing now.

Make sure you pin the upper-outer region of your glutes.

Only sites I really use and reccomend, you can pin Triceps, but you should look that up.
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>>42417002
I've tried T3 before quite naively and read up on it after I came off. I got quite depressed for some time was nasty.

And sounds stupid, but I like to think of AAS as a secret club. If you know, you know. People outside the club don't understand it and that's why they bash cause they wanna be in
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>>42417087
I swear it on My life. You will see for yourself
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>>42417150
Run your t3 at 25mcg, high but around natty levels to keep them going full force without the drawbacks.

For some reason natty people drop all respect once you mention roids "no wonder you're that big, I'd be bigger if you didn't cheat" no you wouldn't fuckwat, I bust my ass and run a tight diet. I put in all the effort but people disregard it at the first sign of roids.
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>>42417173
fuk now you are scaring me. My skin has to be baby clear when i go for spring break next year.
Are you sure that when i pct that shit will still be there 8 MONTHS LATER?

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk.
Looks like im actually gonna order accutane.
Did you get an intitial breakout with accutance, before it got better?

Also how long did it took till you noticed that the acne stopped coming?
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>>42405360
Only one tren run

250/600 test/tren 6 weeks
Flat as fuck, can't sleep, no appetite, strong as a motherfucker but no stamina for volume.

500/600 test tren 8 weeks (front loaded a bunch more test cause test is best)
Pumped as fuck at all times, solid appetite, gained good mass. Plenty of energy to workout, but still not as much as I had on test/nand. Strength increased every workout. Still couldn't sleep.

Never had any cosmetic issues with prolactin but tren definitely did very strange things to my sex drive. Stopped jerking it almost entirely, now it's like a half-hearted session once a week to make sure the equipment works like it should. Now instead of wanting to just fuck every hole like high test does to me, I want to emotionally dominate. Barely care about the sex itself I just have a burning desire to make her NEED me (her being whoever I was courting at the time) which was pretty strange to experience since before the run I was a 2-3x a day jerker, and pretty fucking vanilla. Saw the changes happen and didn't care. Been off 3 weeks now and I still don't touch my dick, and the weird thing with psychological domination being my turnon stayed but seems to be fading.


Tren is legitimately some powerful shit when it comes to mindstate. Have fun, just be careful and don't make snap decisions.
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>>42417148
yeah i did quads four times and it was just awful, like a cripple
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>>42405538
I feel great on tren, running 600 tren a week 200 test a week right now, making mad gainz and feeling great
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>>42417296
What region? I pin up high and to the side.
I did on the top part once and fuck me never again.
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On my 8th week of 500mg test. Do you get the most gains on the last 4ish weeks on a 12 week cycle?

I made some decent gains already and went from 70kg to 80kg (mostly lean bulking) and I'm starting to get that noticeable roid delt and traps look, especially when I have a pump.

How much of my weight is due to water weight, if I'm taking ai?
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>>42417380
Being realistic, up to a max of 3-4kg would actual lean muscle.
This is best case scenario.
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>>42416890
>Roiding for this
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>>42417309
i watched youtube vids and just followed what they did, it was pretty close to center. awful
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>>42417525
Try this one, might be a bit sore the first time but flawless otherwise.
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>>42417553
yeah i definitely didn't do it there, I'll give it a shot tomorrow, thanks man

>get it
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How do you guys even manage to fuck up a quad injection anyway? It's such a huge muscle group. Pin slow and if you feel any discomfort, pin in another spot.
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>>42417682
I tried quad 3 times. Might try again soon.

Each time I always got immediate pain.
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>>42417703
You probably got unlucky and hit a nerve those 3 times.

Try mid head, decently far up.
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>>42417703
Maybe I'm just retarded though. I jabbed my quad 3 times and on the third I just said fuck the pain and pumped 2.5ml of tren/test/npp.

Crippled me for 3 days
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>>42417703
mine wasn't immediate paid but it was just so incredibly sore for days after that i dont like it anymore
>>42417682
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>>42417777
Just sounds like virgin pip my dude. If there wasn't any immediate pain, swelling or redness, you did fine.
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>>42417772
I've felt a short pain a few times, but then just tried again and it was fine. A perfect quad injection, you're not even suppose to feel the needle go in past the skin.

I once fucked up a glute injection, though. I aspirated and saw blood, pulled out the needle and blood went gushing everywhere. It looked like a scene from Dexter.
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>>42417789
it was red for a few days, splotchy and sore. looked like a rash or that i got out of a really hot shower from a distance
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>>42417406
Not too shabby.

Does one get most gains towards the end of a test-e cycle, considering that it takes weeks for it to kick in?

So I should be gaining a decent amount in the next 4 weeks if everything is on point?

On a similar note, once I'm done with this cycle and pct, what's a great second cycle?
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>>42417839
You should gain a fair bit more then in the beginning yes.

For a second cycle, go with the same or up the test a bit.
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>>42417682
This.
Go in, feel pain, pick another spot, repeat until it practically goes in by itself.
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>just spent as much on fruit as alcohol
Clean bulkin aint easy
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>>42418022
Microwave watermelon to get that precious alcohol and fruit at the same time.
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>>42418076
???
Is this a thing
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>>42418123
It'll kill you but sure, its a thing.
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>>42418222
Now I have to do it
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If looking to become fraud, whats the ~$ cost/mo to run test?
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>>42418644
It's fairly cheap, other steroids like tren are much more expensive to run.It's cheap to start out, expensive in the long run once you get more advanced.
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>>42418760
the new vice story about the secret underground world of steroid users said THOUSANDS a month
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>>42418867
lol
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>>42418867
LOL.

500 mg of test a week will cost you next to nothing.
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>>42418867
If you're a pro, yeah maybe. But rumours have it most pros get free gear
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