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The fat bitches are winning. https://mobile.nytimes.com/20

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The fat bitches are winning.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/magazine/weight-watchers-oprah-losing-it-in-the-anti-dieting-age.html?referer=http://digg.com/

Tell me /fit/, we all agree that this is a national epidemic not only directly effecting lardos by killing them but also indirectly effecting everyone else by straining the healthcare system and causing costs to skyrocket. Why shouldnt america attack obesity the same way it attacked cigarettes with amazing results?
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>>42369012

The trouble is we cant just outright sin tax it like other shit. You can sin tax alcohol because statistically drinking increases your likelyhood to commit violent crime, we can sin tax cigarettes because it stastically increases chance of medical problems.

With fat, someone buying a 24 pack of coke could be buying it for themselves, or could be buying it for a party and is calorie counting properly. You cant sin tax food in good conscience because you cant prove it doesnt fit their macros.
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>>42369301
>taxing
>in good concience
HUEHUE
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>>42369301
Thats the equivalent of saying you cant tax alcohol because he might be drinking moderately. There is concrete evidence that calorically dense foods lead to obesity. This has nothing to do with the skinny guy who indulges in the occassional slice of cheesecake. The impact on him would be minimal compared to someone who eats fast food 10 times a week. And taxes are just one method of attack. The war on cigerettes also focused on public awareness and marketing. Especially how it was marketed to children. Imagine if malboro had a funny clown as a mascot and gave away a free toy with every pack
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>>42369353
>obligatory all taxes are bad post
Thanks. Glad to get that out of the way early so we can have real discussion
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>>42369383

Yeah but people clearly dont beloeve science anymore given the amount of body positivity blogs.

I'd attack peoples wallets. Thats where theyd hurt. Simple system. Once a year you must take a bf% test to use public healthcare benefits. If its over a certain % for your age you are given less public assistance.

>>42369353

This isnt the place to debate whether healthcare should be socialised or if taxation is theft but the second it is socialised every tax payer automatically gets a say in what you do with your body and what you can consume.
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>>42369398
i think reddit would be more up to your speed
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>>42369449
>This isnt the place to debate whether healthcare should be socialised or if taxation is theft but the second it is socialised every tax payer automatically gets a say in what you do with your body and what you can consume.
yeah ok lets put a tax on deadlifting then because some retards will snap their shit

>when brainlets try to justify taxation
just face it retards, its all just for gaining revenue, that doesnt make it evil but dont try to sugarcoat it
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>>42369012
>fatties telling other fatties they're beautiful

That's not winning that's living in Fatty Narnia
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>>42369474

I never said it wasnt about revenue but they're also a good way to disincentivize behaviour that costs other taxpayers money.

Also sure we can discuss banning diddlies but at the end of the day a targeted tax against people with high bf% isnt the same as taxing all diddliers for the actions of a few back snappers.
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>>42369474

Fuck it fine. While we are here lets talk about externalities. Without taxation to subsidize and disincentivize production that damages or adds value to global commons how do you propose we encourage/discourage the production of goods that have positive/negative externalities?

>inb4 there are no global commons

Air quality
Water quality
Fish stocks

Without subsidies goods like education that have uncaptured positive externalities would be under produced while without taxes goods that have unpaid for negative externalities such as production that reduces air quality would be over produced.
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>>42369451
Hahaha. Well memed newfriend. How was your summer? Shame its almost over
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>>42369301
nigger, Denmark has taxes on fat and sugar, why do you think the US cant then?
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>>42369301
You can tax sugar, people shouldn't be eating any of that
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Let the fat fucks kill themselves if they so well please, it's not my problem unless retarded authoritarian socialists make it my problem.
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Why the flying fuck do you guys even care?

Let them be what they please, it only makes us more special.
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>>42369449
A bodyfat tax would instantly be shot down due to discrimination. Taxing all people "equally" (although we all know it wouldnt impact them equally) would be much more likely to pass. Id support a japanese style fat tax but i dont see it as having the same results. Youre attacking them after the fact. The idea should be to curb and retrain the unhealthy behaviors. If mcdonalds had a sudden surge in prices theyd introduce a ton of lower cal options to make up lost revenue. Imagine the impact that would have if "healthy" (speaking more toward caloric count than micro-nutrition) was suddenly the cheapest, fastest, and most marketed option
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>>42369718
It already is your problem. Even without soscialized healthcare it still raises your rates
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>>42369012
>The fat bitches are winning.

Yeah, just like my fiancee
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>>42369451
>Came here from /r/thedonald a few months ago
>Accuses other people of being from Reddit
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>>42369722
>im a special snowflake
Kys
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>>42369012
fat bitches are hot anyway, lemme get some of that thicc ass mang
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>>42369732
>getting health insurance

top kek, all i need is medical emergency insurance, everything else is for dopey losers
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>>42369012
>>42369301
I've said it in a previous thread, but let's just directly tax body fat above 18% in men and above 28% in women once a year. Exemptions for athletes and pregnant women where applicable.
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>>42369747
>Cherrypicking this hard
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>>42369835
while we're at it why don't we tax everyone who doesn't read at least 3 non fiction books per year
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>>42369828
Stay poor
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>>42369945
Weak bait. Heres a pity (You)
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>>42369835
Because that would be expensive and ineffective
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>>42370022
It's not bait. Stay mad brainlet.
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>>42369945
t. fatass
false equivalence, unenforceable, and not reading books doesn't impose costs on society at large in the way being a fat fuck does.
>>42370035
assertions without evidence or reasoning are dismissible without evidence or reasoning
>>42370042
lol k
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>>42369012
I don't think it's necessarily just fat people, but a general social backlash against two opposing factors:

>every decade, the "fit" people get fitter and there's more overall social pressure to be fit
>every decade, food gets more delicious as food scientists figure out ways to fuck with your brain's reward systems

The next major advancement in health and fitness needs to be the leveraging of palatability to cause people to spontaneously eat more healthy food and less unhealthy food. This is why, IMO, the most important skill you can have for long-term health is cooking - knowing how to prepare healthy meals that taste good as opposed to either eating garbage that tastes good, or healthy food that tastes bland.
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>>42369383
>There is concrete evidence that calorically dense foods lead to obesity.
Not after you condition on the total intake, naturally.

Idea:
(1) Insurers should require annual (or semi-annual, or otherwise regular) checkups to maintain eligibility.
(2) Everyone weighs in.
(3) If your BMI is too high, they get to raise your rates.*

*If your doctor attests that you are high BMI but low BF, this increase is waived. (Breathe a sigh of relief, frauds.)
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>>42369012
>sourcing a link from digg
>2017

just kys
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>>42370098
>false equivalence, unenforceable, and not reading books doesn't impose costs on society at large in the way being a fat fuck does.
its enforceable with ebooks

people not reading books makes the stupid which in turn makes them make worse decisions at every literally every level, everything from spending habits to social relationships to who you vote for will be worse

people not reading books probably costs society more than lards rolling around in their disgusting food like pigs
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>>42369999
>getting insurance for routine checkups
What did society mean by this?
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>>42370098
>not reading books doesn't impose costs on society at large in the way being a fat fuck does.
cost: Trumps in the White House

Care to put a dollar figure on the damage? I'll wager it'll be in the trillions.
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>>42369301

>With fat, someone buying a 24 pack of coke could be buying it for themselves, or could be buying it for a party and is calorie counting properly.

If it's not something they're overindulging in on a regular basis, a tax shouldn't affect them much, should it?
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>>42369012
These threads do not contribute to the board "culture" nor do they provide any serious discussion or information. Delete this and refrain from posting it again. Back to r/4chan, kiddo.
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>>42369722
>Let anyone do what they want as long as it doesnt hurt you!

NYET
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>>42370098
Expensive because thats an additional 300 million doctor visits a year. Ineffective because it treats the symptom not the cause. The taxes should go to the foods incentivising people to make better choices. In addition to educational campaigns and marketing regualtions
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>>42370143
how, exactly, do you plan to PROVE that someone did or did not read those books? Also, while I agree with the value of reading, I do not think the median adult would benefit much, in any way, from reading even good non-fiction. Do you seriously think most people could or would glean anything useful from reading, say, "Clashing over Commerce: A History of US Trade Policy"?
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>>42370172
Making america great again is priceless
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>>42370180

Fuck off. This thread is discussing the issue of fitness at a national level. Get fucked, gatekeeper.
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>>42370180
>fitness discussion isnt allowed on my board because of muh culture
I can tell youre new. The culture here died years ago. Go shitpost on /b/ newfag. Thats where summercancer belongs
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>>42370246
just imagine if the average walmart retard would know actual things about the world instead of rotting their brains with dancing with the stars and call of duty

you could have software that would track how much time someone spent on each page, yeah you could still cheat

we have eye-tracking technology, shit out a few ireaders with those and you could proove people read their books
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>>42369012
I personally think obesity should be promoted so I look better than everyone by comparison. I'll be able to get a qt bf and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>42370301
But if everyone was fit then thered be more qt bfs to choose from
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>>42370274
>>42370293
We really need stronger moderation on /fit/

This board gets away with too much off-topic shit masquerading as "culture"

This board needs to be like /sp/. /sp/ is an incredibly on-topic board because all the shitposting drooltards were not given an ounce of leeway, and they eventually left.

As you can see, this board is in complete chaos. We need to make it on topic, NOW!!

We cured /sp/ off the shitposting retards, now let's cure /fit/.
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>>42370330
The point is hes a beta fag and cant handle competition. Instead of bettering himself he wants to lower everyone else. Hes no better than a fat sjw
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>>42370333
/sp/ is even worse than /fit/. Im all for banning bullshit and porn posts but generals are cancer that ruined the board
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>>42370234
meh. Allow for a couple percent margin of error, use skinfold + navy method. Have accreditation for gyms/sports clubs/pharmacies to be able to verify people's numbers, cutting down hugely on doctor visits. Even then, a doctor isn't necessary, it's assistant work.

It's effective because it taxes the people who are clearly making disordered decisions. The tax is a rational disincentive to poor diet choices, and if they'd rather pay money than stop being fatfucks, so be it.
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>>42370353
Being fat is already a discentive. But cheap quick and highly marketed foods designed to trigger your brains reward center already overrides that. Taxing a bunch of poor people a few hundred after theyre already fat wont solve anything
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>>42370300
still doesn't prove it, anyone can move their eyes over text without reading or comprehending, and you'd have to produce these devices and force people to spend time in front of them. It's a dumb and untenable idea.
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>>42370377
Quit giving that retard (You)s.
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Tax sugar, stop subsidizing meat and dairy, give more subsidies to fruits and vegetables
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>>42370408
Enjoy your ruined economy lel
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>>42369012
It's to sell more food.
Healthier and more active people are more aware and less consumer minded people.

Keep them fat satiated and not interacting with each other in the real world and they can control them completely.
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I think a lot of people are ignoring the marketing side. Targeting children should be illegal and their should be stricter laws on advertising. We put calorie counts on foods they should say that in the commercial along with the percent of daily value that should be
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>>42369722
Because these fat worthless fucks want me to pay for their healthcare. Fuck you
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>>42370373
if nothing else it helps defray the societal costs of their fatness. Besides that, the foreknowledge of 'I have to pay the government because I'm fat' would probably change a lot of behavior around the margin. People are very averse to loss of money, and any nudge in the direction of 'stop being fat and unhealthy' strikes me as a good thing
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>>42369690
And yet we're getting fatter like the people of freedom
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>>42370340
>t. Fat

I've been improving myself this year, I'm just afraid of approaching guys in anything but my usual dudebro ways. I know the signs of a girl liking you, but how the fuck am I supposed to tell if a guy "likes" you.
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>>42370458
foles fucking dårligt mand
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>>42370373
This unfortunately :(
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>>42370377
who would even fake that, youre autistic
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The whole concept is matriarchal in nature, and you're a cuckold for suggesting it.
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>>42369398
Taxation is the redistribution of equity under threat of force. Prove otherwise or begone with your non-argumentation you frothing cunt.
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>>42369383
>The war on cigerettes also focused on public awareness and marketing.

Public awareness for being overweight needs to be out there. Right now it's polarized between fat people hate and health at any size. We need something like the cigarette campaigns.

With cigarettes:
There is no question that it's unhealthy
It's generally acceptable to tell someone smoking will hurt them in the long run (although if you're a douche about it then you'll be treated as such)
It's publicly acknowledged that it's hard to quit, and celebrated when someone does

Being overweight
> There is questioning if it's unhealthy
> It's generally unacceptable to tell someone being overweight will hurt them in the long run (with fph people taking pride in being pricks about it)
> If someone loses a lot of weight it's generally celebrated, but the general acknowledgement of dieting is "lol it's not hard just stop eating". No acknowledgement of the difficulty is made, even though it's clearly difficult considering we're at all-time-high obesity levels.

I think taxing has its place, but public awareness needs to be out there hard. And I didn't even scratch the surface of parents knowing how to feed their kids.
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>high test men winning
ftfy hon ;)
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>>42370552
>redistribution of equity
how is that a bad thing?
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>>42370552
so what if it is? What matters is the purpose to which the taxes are put, and if they lead to positive group outcomes. Lots of people need to be forced to make decisions that benefit the whole, because they wouldn't otherwise. In the absence of taxes, how would you fund something like national defense? protect and upkeep parkland? Keep literally everything from becoming a tragedy of the commons?
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>>42370300
you cant make me read no damn stinkin books you fuckin commie. kys
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>>42369718
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>>42370616
i think its retarded too, i hate this commie suggestion just as much as i hate the commie fat tax
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>>42370639
idk what you are talking about i didnt read this thread. carry on
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>>42370552
Fatties deserve to have their equity redistributed.
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>>42369722
1. I have to look at these fucking people.

2. I'm not legally allowed to hunt them for sport.

3. They suck up tax money better put towards other things.
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>>42369718
Authoritarian socialist, here. Don't lay this shit on us. I want a bettered society of ubermensch. The people who want to enable these fat retarded fuckers should be hanged.
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>>4237055>all taxes are socialism
Youre paying for the service of living in the first world. Roads and infrastructure arnt free you mong
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>>42370639
Taxes aren't a communist ideal
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>>42370574
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>>42370734
Was for
>>42370552
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>>42370552
Wealth taxes or income taxes, sure. Excise taxes are really just price floors. Price controls do distort the market, but is society really worse off if we distort the market for sugary drinks to lower their consumption?
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>>42369484
Kek
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>>42370612
Jesus fuck, not "muh parks and roads"
Read outside your sphere of preference
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>>42370769
>is society really better off if we distort the market for sugary drinks to lower their consumption?
ftfy statist fag
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>>42369449
i actually think that taxing/reducing assistance for people who are over a certain bf% is a good idea especially if you live in a country with socialised health care like i do, but it would never EVER happen for one simple reason: the whole reason there is an obesity epidemic is because of the shilling of shitty, cheap food and drinks that people get functionally addicted to by giant multinational corporations and they have such a grip on basically every relevant modern government that anything like that that would lose them that huge chunk of their income would never happen. nestle, coca cola, mcdonalds etc would shit the fucking bed and fight anything even approaching this tooth and nail for a hundred years before anything salient was achieved - like why the fuck do you think climate change is still even a question? because corporate interests have the money and power to retard the entire argument by half a century and you can be damn sure the food industry would do the same
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>>42370808
>doesn't address the questions
do so or go fuck yourself.
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>>42369690
denmark's politicians don't have corporate cocks anywhere near as deep down their throats as US ones do
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>>42370843
>doesn't address the same tired old questions easily addressed by some intermediate level internet searches

Yeah I suppose I'm done here
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>>42370300
This is straight out of an Orwellian nightmare

Fuck off NSA
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>>42370829
Big tabacco used to have the same control. It just takes a good plan and effort
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>>42370709
>2. I'm not legally allowed to hunt them for sport.
if you shot a whale with say birdshot, how deep would it even penetrate into the blubber? you could probably shoot them 30+ times in the stomach or back without anything more than superficial damage, and just continually chase and shoot their snivelling asses (it's not like they're gonna get away) for like half a day before they died of exhaustion or blood loss, i sincerely doubt you'd ever penetrate a vital organ
man what a world that would be
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>>42369690
>tax on fat
That's the problem. There's too much debate about what actually is healthy. If US had food-sin taxes, it would be on
>meat
>fat
>sugar (but not HFCS because of lobbyist groups)
>sodium
>milk

While the taxes ought to be on
>all processed foods, snacks, cakes, sweets
>sugar & HFCS
>soy products
>vegetable oil
>bread, frozen pizza, pasta
>sodas
>alcohol
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>>42370126
if obesity is gonna cause increased rates due to health issues you really think roided out human tumours are gonna be exempt? kek no bloodwork would probably be a mandatory part of it
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>>42369690
Denmark taxes everything, anon
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>>42370871
thats the point

just like the suggestsions in this thread about taxing bodyfat %
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>>42369690
>Denmark has taxes on fat
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2LYe4Gzmc4
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>>42370867
>salient argument about myriad benefits an efficient tax system has for society, and how a system without taxes will devolve into a corporate ruled third world hellhole
>b-but i read an article on breitbart that had some obfuscating handwaves to try to dismiss this idea, therefore you're wrong and i don't even have to attempt to answer your point!
you're a retard living in a chan bubble and you know nothing about the real world or the nature of people. correct me if im wrong but are you one of those people who honestly believes trump is an actual right wing populist who's trying to do the right thing for the american people?
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>>42369301
>You can't tax fast food

Maybe in America, but in Portugal McDonald's is getting pretty worried about the new fast-food/sugary drinks taxes (article in Portuguese):
https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/economia/mcdonalds-portugal-critica-iniciativas-para-aumentar-impostos-sobre-restauracao_n1007197
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>>42371009
Books. Find them. The paper kind. Read them. Take showers once every two hours unless sleeping or at work. Don't say a word unless objectively necessary for survival.
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>>42370953
Thats not really a 1 to 1 correlation. Japan has a fat tax id hardly call them an orwellian state
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>>42370822
Pareto-efficiency is not the same as social wellbeing.

>>42370552
Politics is the nature of coercive institutions. The negative/positive freedom dichotomy is extremely arbitrary. For a board which prides itself on saying the word "Ubermensch" over they don't seem to realize that Nietzsche thought a State which focusses so heavily on the individuals right to survive and not others right to attack is indicative of a nation in decline since it completely suppresses its animal instincts instead of using them to reach higher spiritual values.
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>>42369012
So glad I'm not amerifat
>mom is adopted from california
Fuck
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>>42370170
do people get check ups at the doctor? is this a thing?
t. young britbong
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>>42371067
I've been on 4chan for 7+ years and I have yet to see anyone use "Ubermensch" unironically.

>The negative/positive freedom dichotomy is extremely arbitrary
Taking things by force is takings by force - you can put whatever kind of bow on it you'd like.
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>>42371085
>do people get check ups at the doctor?
>britbong
>socialist healthcare
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>>42371092
Oh my 7+ years, I'll just bend over and let you fuck me. What, do you think you're some kind of oldfag? I've been here over 7 years too.

>taking things by force is taking things by force
And? You completely missed by point which is that a "freedom" is a relationship of restrictions on a given action(s). Your freedom to not be attacked is a restriction on my freedom to attack you. Besides even on the Libertarian side the non-meme philosophers or economist like Nozick or Hayek were all minarchist.
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>>42371134
You're free to conflate altercations between private citizens with the at-large fleecing of the public by a federalized entity all you want to, but it's not terribly compelling

>I'll just bend over and let you fuck me
Not necessary - however if you'd stop pretending you're surrounded by nazis, that would be just grand
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>>42371126
pls tell me i'm very confused now

going to the doctor is for when you're 20 minutes away from death i thought?
essentially serving the same function as A&E
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>>42371092
Not really. Taxes are optional believe it or not. Nobody is forced to live in america. Youre basically paying for a service. Theyre only "taken" after the service has been rendered
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>>42371187
I mean what on earth would the doctor look at in a check up?
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>>42369012
Nobody is forcing you to fuck her. There's still plenty of attractive women out there desu. Breathe.
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>>42369718
Agreed. Ancap societies would be the best
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>>42371202
>"Ya don't like it, leave!"
Hi there 2002's Political Discourse - it's been too long, how's the kids?
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>>42369012
as long as we can repeal obamacare and hold the line against the horde of fatties trying to get us to pay for their beetus and bypass surgeries then we can just wait it out until they die.
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>>42371161
4chan has a lot of ironic naziposting but also has a fair amount of actual Nazis. I personally know autist who go to Daily Stormer meetups and use /pol/.

>You're free to conflate altercations between private citizens with the at-large fleecing of the public by a federalized entity all you want to, but it's not terribly compelling
What? I'm contesting that what you said is categorically wrong. I don't view it as "fleecing the public". In fact if I were to take a route in which we can point out certain values which are categorically wrong, I'd still support the existence of the State to uphold those values along with its coercive nature.
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>>42371203
They check your vitals, ask about any recent health problems, order blood work (if it's been a while), and so on. Catches illnesses early often enough to be financially advantageous to the insurance industry, which is why it's standard practice, but it really is a waste of time for the most part.
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>>42371276
>What?
My original assertion remains unrefuted - you haven't proven that taxation isn't redistribution by force, you've merely asserted that, in your estimation, it's for the best. I disagree. That's alright though, you seem perfectly reasonable and you're nice enough to banter with.

>>42371276
>Daily Stormer meetups
Fuck, that has to be some of the cringiest shit imaginable
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>>42370574
Fuck off kike
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>>42371368
>My original assertion remains unrefuted - you haven't proven that taxation isn't redistribution by force, you've merely asserted that, in your estimation, it's for the best. I disagree. That's alright though, you seem perfectly reasonable and you're nice enough to banter with.
Fair enough, I wasn't really contesting that it's coercive but more that I think the discourses we have over liberty are misguided. Keep on liftin though, we're all gonna make it. I do have anarchist sympathies but I was moreso playing the devils advocate.

>Fuck, that has to be some of the cringiest shit imaginable
They go on "hate hikes"
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>>42370267
>Trump
Fat as fuck, and definitely not >>>/fit/ approved.
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>>42371432
>there are people in this world who don't like trump

L O W T E S T
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>>42371432
Hi Boogie
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>>42369353
Google "representative government"
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>>42371411
>"hate hikes"
Holy shit hahahahahahahaha

>>42371411
>Keep on liftin
You too brah
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>>42369012

Is that Trigglypuff?
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>>42371432
>>42371452
>>42371459
Objectively we ought to prefer the Obamas. They all had healthy BMIs and Michelle's pet project was trying to reduce the number of children who turn into hamplanets.
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>>42369737
/r/thedonald is great

I've never been there, but you Reddit pussies cry about it so much that it must be doing something right.

Reddit shitheads like you are ruining this website. That is why it is our job to support communities like the Donald, SRS, and fat hate. If you shit up our website, well shit up yours.
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>>42369945
What's hilarious is that after reading enough non-fiction, one realizes that the answer lies in discarding books in favor of action.
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>>42369718
Based
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>>42371512
what kind of retardation is this i hope you're not fucking serious
>this is what it's actually like when i talk to normies about politics
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>>42369737
I love how 99% of Reddit sucked Bernie Sanders shriveled dick, but you still act like the website is republican due to one subreddit which triggers the rest of the website
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>>42370172
>le reading books makes people liberals maymay

Most democrats don't read anything outside of Harry Potter and Gnome of Scones and act like it qualifies them as """""""intellectuals"""""""
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>>42371512
>Michelle's pet project was trying to reduce the number of children who turn into hamplanets.
Just wait until Trump institutes mandatory fat shaming, and deadlifts as corporal punishment
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>>42371588
>mandatory fat shaming
When does Trump get his?
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>>42371432
>le blind hatered of everyone who's fat meme

Yeah, this shit didn't start until fathate got banned on Reddit and you fucks ruined fat people stories by taking it way too far.

Blindly hating fat people is as Reddit as it gets.

>claims to speak for the board as if we are a hive mind

Yup, this is the face of the Reddit cancer that is killing our board my fellow anons.

>linking to the same board he's on

Probably fresh off the boat from /r/4chan too. At least these bitches used to lurk a little before posting.
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>>42371625
>Implying that Trump fat shaming hasn't been happening en masse for 2 years straight already
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>>42371586
This, Marxist are the smartest.
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>>42371625
Never. Democrats are regressive shitheads who unironically use "fat shaming" as debate points.

It's 2017 anon. Just stop.
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>>42371671
Being smarter than the average American liberal isn't a very high bar to set my dude.
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>>42371671
>Marxist are the smartest
Nice grammar, genius. Go drink some more bongwater and keep trying to sell utopia.
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>>42371671
*most neurotic
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>>42371682
>Democrats are regressive
That's an amusing take on recent history.
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Maybe the whole thing will self-correct in a couple of generations.
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>>42371704
The liberal-industrial complex in the US has been waging a whole sale war on intellectualism for two decades now. Who do you think the primary drivers behind HAES and Fat Acceptance are?
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>>42371704
That's an amusing omission of the entire history of the democratic party, and a convenient blind eye to post-modernism
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>>42371697
???
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>>42371761
>liberal-industrial complex
This does not exist.
>waging a whole sale war on intellectualism for two decades now.
The left didn't put Rick Perry in charge of DOE.
>Who do you think the primary drivers behind HAES and Fat Acceptance are?
Far-left campus loons who are not especially representative of mainstream liberals.
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>>42371764
>That's an amusing omission of the entire history of the democratic party
Be Republican.
>Remember the era preceding LBJ? The Democrats are the real racists! Ours is the party of Lincoln.
>All my problems are caused by niggers and mudslimes, and Trump is going to fix it.
Say both things, because fuck reason.
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>>42371815
Their views will be the platform of the party in two election cycles.
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>>42371860
We'll have to hold that up with other righty predictions and see whether we should take it seriously.
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>>42371857
>All my problems are caused by niggers and mudslimes, and Trump is going to fix it.
Nice strawman you cunt, could you build one for my front yard next? Man you guys really are the real racists, what a potty-mouth.
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>>42371857
Wow, so now you have to invent a narrative that neither of the people you are talking to brought up to create an argument in which you chose the parameters for the other side.

If only there was a word for that. Scarecrow or something or another.
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>>42369301

uh what if you just taxed the fuck out of anything with sugar
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>>42371882
I don't care what you take seriously friend. Your opinions are inconsiqential to me. You will adopt whatever views Stephen Colbert and The Guardian tell you to, regardless of what they are. Liberals aren't men of conviction, they exist to vomit the opinions your puppet masters have chosen for you.
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>>42370411

explain how this would topple the economy
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>>42370552

explain in as many words as you like how you justify not redistributing fatties equity when left to their own devices they turn into giant balls of diabetes
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>>42370923
Tax on people being fat. The fat tax! I love it! Tax fat; fat tax.
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>>42369012
>dieting age
Dieting is complete scam. It sets you up with a temporary unenjoyable meal plan that forces you to subscribe to their outlets and buy certain products that funnel $$$$ back to pigs that start them.
It's set up to fail so you cycle back to their latest ""state of the art diet"
People should be being taught to simply manage their portions and be aware of how much fucking calories are in certain foods. And also needs to be thought of as a permanent change to eating habits, not a short temporary road to weight loss
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>>42371202
America still demands taxes from you even if you leave. Look it up.
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>>42371971
So you want to take their money and do what - make fatty re-education camps or something? And what - the rest of us that might want a soda every few months have to pay a sin tax? Have you thought about this for longer than the existence of this thread?
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>wanting soda every few months

never gonna make it
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>>42369449
if you are over a certain bf (obese or moderately overweight) you should be given a free gym pass by the government. hell, their should be public gyms with basic equipment in for everybody to use.
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>>42371516
>well shit up yours.
I tried when they shut fown r/european. They just ban you from everythin if you say things people don't like or get too many downvotes. That site is really shit unless you post all silly and lighthearted.
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>>42369578
this
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>>42369012
>Why shouldnt america attack obesity the same way it attacked cigarettes with amazing results?

Cigarettes won though. Everyone who doesn't smoke now are called autists and faggots just because they like to be healthier.
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>>42371249
I fucking love ancap memes
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Did any of you morons read the article? They still want to diet. They just don't want to "go on a diet" or "lose 10 pounds in 10 days" because people are wisening up that that's a load of shit.
People want real lifestyle changes, for long term results.
This is good news
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People thinking taxing something is a good idea especially when we live in the multikulti diversity paradise

Fuck off Keynes.
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Let them.

You know they will all die out right? They're not healthy, their kids aren't healthy, they die young, they often don't have children.

Evolution, marches on.
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>>42374252
>Having your population eradicate itself
>A sustainable country

Pick one. Like it or not if all the fatties in the US died the country is going under from chink invaders.
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>>42373074
theyre funny af
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>>42374285
It's not going to be an extinction event, but over the next 1000 years people who have so little will power that they literally kill themselves, will do just that, die out.

The obsessive desire to eat fats and sugars comes from our time as primitive humans when those high energy foods were rare, so we'd want, and need as much as possible, now the situation has reversed, so only those with self control and will power will survive.
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>>42369690
Yea their there because your politicians care about you.

Not because Denmark is like every other socialist Nordic soon to be shit hole that taxes every fucking thing so they can import more Somalians.
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>>42374324
Over the next 1000 years medical science would have advanced enough to keep fatties living to 120 at least.

Why do you think fatties can live as long as they do now when just 600 years ago they would have died at 23 from gangrene and scurvy?
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>>42374337
They're so fat they can't fuck so they will still die out.

Not everyone will afford test tube babies.
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>>42374350
You think the cost of IVF over time won't decrease as it becomes more and more advanced, cost effective and accessible?

I mean we're at the point now you can go to Thailand and pick out the gender, eye colour and hair colour of your baby if you wanted.
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>>42374378
Yeah but come on, have you met fat people, every single severely obese person I've ever met has been sub 90 IQ, dumb as fuck. Theres no way these subhumans will survive the millennia.

The only way stupid people have ever survived is through doing manual labour but they cant even do that.
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>>42374411
Plenty of rich fatties out there. One runs the US for instance.
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>>42374441
He's not ambulocetus levels though
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>>42369945
We should be doing that tbqh. The only thing worse than a fatfuck is a dumb fatfuck
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>>42371452
Gotta have high rest to lust after the supreme Braphog
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>>42371516
You have to go back
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>referer=http://digg.com/
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>>42371815

>far-left campus loons are not representative of mainstream liberals

hahaha fucking what?
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>>42369735
kys
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>>42370333
Use /tg/ as an example, they are much more focused than /fit/, and with less shitposting.

/fit/ is 80% shitpost nowadays.
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>>42370829
You're right people are forced to eat shitty food. Shut the fuck up fat fuck.
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>>42371815
>Far-left campus loons

And yet you're not a far cry from that. Like them, you live in complete denial of history and reality. So much so that you make attempts to rewrite it to your liking.
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>>42370552

If you don't like tax don't use anything taxes pay for for a year and see how you go retardo.

how can you honestly be that dumb?
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>>42372009

this sentiment right here is the problem with the younger generation, not willing to sacrifice for the greater good.

sometimes you have to look to the larger picture to see the world is bigger than your own wants and needs.

do you drive at the speed limit even though your own ability may be greater than the limit that is demanded of you? of course you do because you know there are inexperienced/retarded drivers on the road so you make the sacrifice of convenience and time and do the speed limit.

do you have good manners or are you just a cunt around people? I bet you have good manners because it is beneficial to be nice to people.

so why wouldn't you be willing to sacrifice soda in order to improve the health of society?
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>>42369012
i'd say she's got beautiful eyes but she hasnt even got those :/
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