/fat/ - "I believe in you senpai" edition

Made some chicken tenders with almond flour

Tasted pretty good, macros are low carb friendly too

A whole plate of almond flour tendies only had 723 calories

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>>42351491

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>>42351509

i lost 11 pounds last month

fat fucks

>>42351515
why would u eat weed for dinner.

>>42351491
800 calories without any vegetables or sides, wtf is wrong with you man.

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>>42351644
>vegetables

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Wew lads, back to lifting after far too long. I apperently lost some weight when I wasn't working out over the past year. Now that I'm around 200, it's time to recomp this beer bellied 6'3 weakling.

>>42351657
Ketchup, on lobster????

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I was worried about skipping the gym on vacation, but I finally got back into it and I didn't gain any weight, so I'm glad my estimates using MFP seemed to be accurate.

I was happy to get back to lifting today. Feels a little weird, but I'm glad I'm enjoying it.

Red pill me on IF

>>42351998
it's easy to do, you save money and you eat less

when i do this i just drink a lot of water during the morning and some coffee

alternate day fasting is incredible

>>42352027
what times do you find it's easiest to eat during for IF?

>>42351998
>overcome yourself
>don't spend money on food
>food becomes more tasty when you only eat once a day
>mental clarity at pique of fast is almost as good as adderol

>>42352027
>>42352073
I wake up at 7 am and want to eat breakfast/lunch at noon and then dinner at 8 pm
I already lost 60 lbs and I'm on those last 20 so I figured I will continue my 500 kcal deficit but do it on IF

>>42352099
Yeah, your body adapts quickly to a new feeding schedule. It's uncomfortable but that's kinda the point. Your body is going into "go kill a fucking mammoth and feed me you asshole I normally have mammoth meat at this time" mode. Meditation helps.

>>42352149
Thanks mate I actually wanna start meditating
Is IF really that beneficial though in your opinion?

>>42352064
i eat at 12h00 and 19h30 so 16 hours without eating from 20h00 to 12h00 the next day

in the morning , coffee let me working without having headache

>>42352099
do it , i actually feel better when i'm doing IF , but dont do physical stuff in the morning, one time i dig a hole with a pickaxe in my garden during 30 min in the morning and i almost passed out

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>>42352240
thanks bud

Just to share my fasting experience as well. I'm drinking only loads of water at work and then have a good fat dinner which rarely exceeds 1000kcal which leaves me with around 500kcal of headroom for snacks in the evening. I love it, I'm still surprised that the hunger just went away on it's own. I don't know about the other benefits but it really helps with eating at a deficit. But bear in mind that I'm also eating less than 50 carbs a day

>>42352149
>spoiler: your body isn't actually telling you to go kill a mammoth. Your body isn't used to eating mammoth. Your body doesn't call itself an asshole because you haven't eaten and are hungry.

So many things wrong. Jesus christ what are you, 12?

>>42351676
hey hey nigga, same shoes

fuck these manlet fatties who have no potential anyway, if us 6'3+ folk are getting under 200, and they're still in the 300's, they can go make a manlet suicide thread instead.

>tfw started at 260, down to 190 now. In October it'll be a year for me since I started.

>>42351998
I've been doing 16:8 for 6+ weeks now and I'm really glad I'm doing it. I have lost almost 20 lbs during that time and, more importantly, I have developed much better eating habits. Most of the time I do not find myself getting all that hungry during the fasting period, and if I do, I know that the feeling will pass within 30 minutes. I also learned how much snacking I did out of boredom/convenience rather than hunger.

IF won't work for everyone. You still need to make sure you're in a caloric deficit. For a lot of people though, if you restrict your eating window, you're a lot more likely to stay under your TDEE.

>>42351998
Look at the cows they eat all the day. Now look at the panthers they eat once a day, and which one look in better shape.
- From the Nubian Sergeant himself

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>>42352499
>fuck these manlet fatties who have no potential anyway, if us 6'3+ folk are getting under 200, and they're still in the 300's, they can go make a manlet suicide thread instead.

why so mean bro? we're all just trying to make it here

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Making strides on the jonestown diet.

Lost 35lbs

I'm losing weight but I can't even lose a 0.1% of my body fat


Fucking help

>>42352708
'cause a manlet power lifter fucks this girl I had a crush on in 5th grade, but now he's fat 'cause he fucked up a bulk or something, and I want to get fit and steal her away to hate fuck and ignore.

>>42352742
That pic I can understand. I guess feminism only makes sense for dads as a way to cope with the inevitability of their little princesses being fucked by chads left and right.

Also nice progress anon.

>>42351552
Wow good job man

I don't want to eat too much less but I want a big deficit , I'm already okay at running distance, Can I only do a 300 deficit on my sportless TDEE and then only eat half of my sports calories burned ( so around 450) to get my deficit way up in the 750 ?

been on keto for 2 weeks and my apetite has completely gone, used to eat like 3k callories now im eating barely even 1k, will this sharp decrease fuck my metabolism?

>>42352962
keto fuck up metabolism long term
And huge deficit fuck up metabolism long term .

>>42352976
those 2 are completely false, do some research nigger, keto actually fixes metabolism.

>>42352149
How do you like to meditate. I just youtubes 'guided meditation' and pick something. Probably not the best method

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rate my lunch

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>ate my yearly calorie allowance in 7 months
>have to fast until January
not looking forward to christmas lads

>>42352659
>Nubian intellectuals

>>42353198
kek

Ive been eating at maintenance for a week after eating 600 calories for a month. I'm trying to get back on track and slowly cut down to 300 calories a day. I hate regular dieting...

Fat fucks, you make me sick

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My mom buys a lot of sweets and stuff even though I've been asking for healthier food. For example she bought Klondike bars, vanilla and chocolate pudding, and chocolate bars in bulk. How do I survive this? Especially as a bored eater?

>>42353574
>300 calories a day
This is beyond retarded. Consider suicide.

>>42353586
only boring people are bored

How do I calculate food people have brought in for occasions.

>>42353624
scan the barcode

>>42353586
go to the bathroom and look at your body in the mirror. that's what i do when i want to eat some unhealthy shit.

>starting to feel thicc abs under my fat
I feel like even though I'm chubby, if a chick felt me up, she'd be impressed.

T. 10 months in, and 50+ lbs lost

>>42353574
>300 calories a day
i'd rather fast than go on that auschwitz tier diet

>>42353586
Eat a little of that

>>42353647

homemade food

>>42353680
>i'd rather fast than go on that auschwitz tier diet

PSMF is hard as fuck, but it gets results fucking fast.

I've lost 43lbs in the last few months... super stoked. ran 8 miles yesterday.

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got pic related as a treat, drank, felt dizzy & tired. Also worked out more than usual the day before so might be that too. Does it make you guys feel like shit?
I was thinking it might be cause more caffeine-->makes me piss more-->dehydration?

Guess I can't have soda even as no calorie treat. Damn

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>mfw us fat guys carved ourselves a corner of /fit/ and all those skinny betas can't do a THING abotu it

>>42353678
hope you've got beefy calves dude. chicks love beefy calves.

>>42353586
keto and fasting
i'm living with a family who buy tons of shitty foods every week. birthdays last like a week. christmas lasts a month. no surprise i got so big living with them. but with keto and fasting i don't have the appetite for it now...

So I'm currently eating 1600-1700calories per day which is fine, but at night I used to watch a movie with chocolate before going to sleep, I've cut that out but now I get so hungry when trying to sleep it's uncomfortable. Do I just live with it or are there substitutes?

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>>42353967
I really really wish I wasnt here right now

>>42353967
>implying being in here is a good thing
This is the corner of shame.

Yo, bros, is it true that the lower your weight, the more noticeable every lost kilogram will be?

>>42353952
I've removed Pepsi max from my diet and my energy has skyrocketed. I doubt it's the caffeine and more the artificial sweeteners. maybe do a test? One week with 1can/day vs clean

>>42354224
I can't imagine living like this. Much power to you anon. You should meditate on your hunger pains. Eventually you will learn to enjoy them when they occur, it means your losing fat.

>>42353740
What is it?

>>42354351
YeS, there is a significant difference for someone like me 158 lb fluctuating between 150-160 you can see it very clearly.

yo rainman, are you indian at all? as in, do you have any indian blood?

>that devlish craving for something sweet after dinner

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>42354351
When you get sub 200lbs/20%bf every step down starts to make you look more and more human shaped; definition starts developing.

>>42353595
Fast results versus wasting a year at a small deficit

>>42354412
A small shot of apple cider vinegar will help.

Not sure if this will be helpful to anyone else, but I came up with a way to stop my compulsive snacking.
I love hot cheetos, but I have a very low spice tolerance. I made it so hot cheetos are the only non-healthy snack I buy.
Whenever I had a craving to snack on something, I'd have a bowl, and it hurt like hell. Hurts like fuck going out, too.
It's kind of a roundabout way I set up for punishing myself for snacking.
One month later, I hate the idea of snacking. I associate it with pain, and lost my desire to eat unhealthy stuff. I have a better appreciation for the nuts and vegetables I've bought, because they don't make my mouth and ass catch fire.
Still fat, but I think I'm on the right track now.

>>42354500
>Better than candy bars and soda
marginally better but still sucks my nigga

next time eat oats cooked in milk. then add a spoon of peanut butter. its life changing.
tastes great, is healthy, and more importantly sets you on the course of cooking decently healthy food by yourself.

>>42351632
thank fuck im not the only one who saw that

>>42354396
Nope, why's that?
>>42354412
I know this feeling; Conditioning is a bitch to break. I have a black coffee or drink 1-2L of water to ignore it

>>42354518
That's not mentally healthy dude, come on. You're not a dog, you don't need to punish yourself because you "did something bad" . You gotta develop a better relationship with food, thats the only way you'll actually keep the weight off. If you find yourself wanting to snack, go do something else. Keep yourself busy. Read, write, draw, go on a walk, or whatever.

>>42354612
Not that anon but I know all too well food addiction and it's a start for breaking it. You're retraining your brain from the ground up, just like you'd raise a child to associate dangerous acts with pain via discipline. Once he's lost weight he can start developing higher awareness for his relationship with food

>>42354420
The fact that you might even think this way says a lot about your lack of basic knowledge on human biology and biochemistry. Stay retarded and stay with your shitty body forever.

>>42354566
A while back, you had mentioned your dad's heart attack, and I remember you mentioned something something Indian. Just curious is all.

>>42354351
yes and no, but I might have body dysmorphia. I'll give you my own experience as someone who's almost close to "making it".
>first 5 kg see nothing much of a change
>next 5 kg seem to notice proportionate decrease in mass everywhere, not much, still look like shit
>last 5kg (up until now) suddenly feel like I've become fatter actually, start noticing more fat than I was aware of, starting to be overly critical of certain areas.
>5 more kg to go, I'm praying I can minimize the damage done to my body image by actually shedding a bit more fat and getting leaner at once, but it looks like I won't be satisfied even then.

To be honest, at this point, I'm just focused on finishing this cut so I can do a long drawn clean bulk and put on some muscle on this flabby mess that I am currently. There's no looking good right now, because there's no making it if you just lose fat, you have to build muscle assuming you don't have it already.
So basically, there will be some noticeable change after a while, but expect a decrease in body image as you get closer to your goal and as a result, lost weight won't be "more noticeable", but actually less.

>2 large eggs
>2 pieces of bread (1 with jam)
>did that thing americans do (dippy egg or whatever)
>filling as fuck and only 313 calories
thanks burgers

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>>42354703
I worry about a lot of these new /fat/ posters who want to lose weight in the most obscene and insane ways yet come back next week bawling because their weigh in sucked or they feel like garbage. Like I said, he's not a dog. He's capable of higher thought, he's capable of asking himself why he's eating something. He's able to put it down and walk away from it. Creating fear for a type of food is what leads to eating disorders, creating the idea of "safe" and "unsafe" foods is seriously some proana shit. Losing weight is a slow process, there is plenty of time NOW to figure out what his issue is with food. He shouldn't do that at the end of the journey when he's now skinny fat and the idea of eating a chip causes him mental anguish.

>>42354351
>200kg - 1kg = 199kg
>0.5% bodyweight lost

>100kg - 1kg = 99kg
>1% bodyweight lost

It's literally math.

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>trying out the autism diet
>only lost 15lbs after two months

>>42354858
It's not like pussy had much for calories anyway. I can't believe you're getting any different results at all.

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Confess your sins

>>42354832
yet one kg of muscle is five times more dense than a kg of fat, so imagine being in the case of someone who's losing muscle and fat, while also not exercising so they can't put on more muscle mass and recomp as they lean out. What would happen do you think?
A 99kg guy with 10% bodyfat vs a 99kg guy with 30% bf. Who do you think looks fatter?
it's like falling for the "which falls faster, 1kg of feathers or 1kg of lead" meme.

>>42354891
condensed* not dense, sorry english is not my first language.

>>42354858
I tried this once. Only ate green coloured things and it worked out pretty well. Finding a water substitute was impossible. I eventually just started putting green food dye in it.

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>>42354876
Was supposed to eat only half of the pizza I made but beer made it taste so good it's all gone now.

>tfw can't purge even when the toothbrush is so far in it comes out of our ass

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>>42354935
tried to purge just now desu, I couldn't go through with it. I didn't go over my TDEE but I feel fucking awful.

>tfw don't even have the strength to be bulimic

>>42354745
Oh I forgot to tell the story
>Saturday night
>family decides to order Indian food delivery
>order says they'll take an hour
>ff to an hour
>father takes insulin thinking food is just around the corner
>goes back to his room to watch YouTube
>food still hasn't arrived
>slips into diabetic fit
>mother only one home (I was at work at this point)
>ambulance arrive
>he goes into a seizure
>they give him a sedative
>the needle itself pulls him out of the seizure
>without thinking they still give him sedative
>this sends him into a coma
>As they're moving him to the ambulance the Indian delivery guy turns up
>it's now almost 2.5hrs after the order was made
>gets his ass chewed out by a ex-military paramedic
>literally threw the food over the guy (so I heard)
>he had to be restrained by his offsider while the other two paramedics left with my father (2 ambos turned up)
>father has a heart attack on the way to hospital due to the sedative reacting badly and slowing his heart (smoker diabetic = had oxygen circulation, heart pumps harder to spread oxygen, needs more oxygen to pump harder, ect)

That's why I said Fuck Indians man.

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>>42354876
I still haven't switched from diet soda to water.

>>42354935
>>42354968
don't do it my niggas
you're just swapping one bad habit for an even worse one
it isn't worth it

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>>42351460
Nobody should live encumbered with excess fat if they don't want to. I believe in all of you.

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>>42354876
I went for a relaxing and otherwise lovely long walk along the river rather than do my HIIT. I know I should've but the sunset was just too beautiful

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>>42354518
There's really not that much of a problem with snacking as long as it's healthy and fits your diet. If you want something to munch on and/or crave sweets just eat low-calorie fruits like berries. Peaches and nectarines are my favorite. It's not rocket science bro, there's no need to flagellate yourself like that.
>You get in shape, and more importantly stay in shape, by accumulating significant, but livable, improvements to your lifestyle over time, and building on that. Not by going through some horrible ordeal requiring Olympian willpower.
One of the best quotes I've ever heard.

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>>42355016
>>42354977
Sounds lovely, sorry to hear about your Dad

>>42354977
couldn't your dad wait for the food to be here to take his medication? Not trying to be mean, it just seems like a dangerous bargain. Also wasn't there any food in your house in any shape or form that he could have taken to prevent this when he saw the order was being delayed? It's easy to blame it on the delivery guy I think.

t. not a pajeet, just a guy with some sense

>>42354995
Would've been just for this once i swer on mi mum. Too bad my mouth seems to be entry only unless severely hungover

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>>42354995
I know I know, but I swear I've only done it a couple of times before. It's the third day in a row that I've eaten too much and I'm starting to hate myself. I'm at home all day and being around food all day completely drains my willpower. I feel too tired and my knees hurt so much I don't feel like going outside so I end up munching my way through the day. I'm going to go to the gym for a couple of hours to atone for my sins but it still hurts senpai.

>>42354977
>>42355053
I'm with this guy. It sucks that your Dad got ill, and I really hope he's doing better now. It's the delivery guys fault for being late, but it isn't his fault for what happened to your dad imo.

can see a big ol' vein going from my elbow joint to my armpit
never seen the inner workings of my own body before

>>42355117
yeah not to mention his dad's heart attack is pretty much on the paramedics who still sedated him while he had stopped seizing. Then the paramedic throws a fit at the delivery guy? Yeah I'm guessing he realized he and his team had fucked up big if your dad died because of the sedative, and decided to blame the delivery guy for it by basically assaulting him, meanwhile both your dad and the paramedics are the ones responsible for his dad's heart attack.

Is Sparkling Water bad? I find it works quite well as an appetite suppressant

>>42355108
Mate it's alright. Mistakes happen and it's good you realize you've made them. Now just got to make the changes to help fix it There are a few things to get in order.

Get your sleep sorted out. Wake up at the same time everyday. Don't look at a screen before you sleep. No caffeine after 6pm.

Make your bed up every morning after you brush your teeth and before you make breakfast.

Throw out all food that can drain your willpower. Don't even think about it. Throw it out before you even get a chance to contemplate about it.

If you get some cravings, get some greek yogurt to snack on, or chug a few litres of water.

Also never ever try to purge. Sometimes we fuck up, and that's okay. But we need to live with those choices. Practically, try to recognize your mental and body behaviors/patterns so that you can recognize when a binge is close. Then deal with it appropriately.

(The first two tips aren't directly weight loss related but doing these small positive things do help getting the ball of meaningful positive change going.)

>>42355198
It's fine, if it works for you then that's great. It's literally water after all. Just so long as it isn't the flavoured crap.

>>42351491
>>42351509
79.4g of protein and I get to eat tendies? ?Great job man, will have tonight.

>>42355045
It was lovely, he's recovering well. Still keeping an eye on him though
>>42355053
>>42355117
Most definitely, he hasn't been all there since his stroke a few years back; kinda Air heady. This was a blessing in disguise though because it's finally given him the wake up call he needed to pay more attention to his health and eating; he's even taken an interest is getting fit with me.

I know it's not the delivery guys fault entirely, but still no message, no call, nothing to say it was delayed is still a dick move on their behalf. I was just salty at the time. Apparently the restaurant has 1.5 stars and their punctuality and even not delivering at all is a common issue.

>>42354876

> Noticed a half box of Twinkies lodged behind my couch that was left over from Christmas when the family was over.
> Currently on cut
> Was going to throw it away
> I accidentally ate the entire box before lunch today

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>>42354360
Hmm could be interesting. Not sure if I'm willing to potentially suffer in the gym from low energy & lose gains for a week though
might try powerade zero instead seems more promising

>>42355333
well, I am glad this has been a wake up call at least. Maybe it's not too late for your dad. I hope he gets fit with you, but take it from someone with a diabetic overweight mom, don't beat yourself if you can't make the horse drink no matter how hard you try. I agree that the delivery guy's attempt at giving some news along the way could have given your unfocused dad the warning sign to eat something, and thus prevented all of this. Sure, you have a right to react angrily at what was the root event of the problem at the time. I just tried to play devil's advocate because from a legal and moral standpoint, delivery guy was not at fault. Still he was a part of the problem. It just boggles my mind how many trickles of events like these lead to tragedies happening, like a butterfly effect. Anyone who likes watching investigation shows can relate.

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>>42355275
Thanks man. I'm going to try and start meditating, I looked into buddhism today and I think I could have a lot to gain from some increased self awareness. I'm going to get rid of all the shit that I've been binging on asap. Trouble is that I've been cooking a bit too much to eat but too little to keep for leftovers recently then just pigging out on the whole meal to the point I feel uncomfortably full. I have a kitchen scale now so I'll be doing my best to weigh out food before cooking to stop myself from doing this. Also I know it's not great but I'm stocking up on vegetables that I like so that I can binge on them instead of shitty food - part of my binge today included 400g of baby leaf greens in an attempt to fill myself with fewer calories.

>been drinking monster zero ultras on my low calorie diet to maintain energy to work out
>absentmindedly buy a java monster without thinking because I love the way they taste
>drink 2/3rds of it before I realize what I'm doing and check the nutrition label
220 cals per can and 38 grams of sugar. I screwed up fat. I stopped now but at 2/3rds the can that's still like 25grams of sugar and 135 calories from that drinking.

Fuck I've been doing so well too. Should I expect water weight gains tomorrow from the carbs and sugar?

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>>42355346
Have you seen the Powerade water? If it's just to settle a sweet tooth it's actually quite tasty and only 7cal. Pic related

>>42355428
Do you know of any electrolyte additives I could add to water to keep my energy up while jogging that are zero calories?

>>42355405
Yea the first time I typed out the story to my DnD group it just...it really sunk in how "series of unfortunate events" it was. He seems to be pretty set, but only time will tell if the motivation will tamper off. At the very least his diet must change as his new insulin is designed to go with food; as in he has to eat 5-10min after taking it it's that fast acting.

>>42355445
myprotein has electrolytes in powder form that I am pretty sure is zero cal up to a certain dose.

>>42355428
That's Gatorade anon.

>>42355471
That's anon! That will really help me out with my work outs.

>>42354876
Helping my parents move and didn't eat til 12ish, a 370 cal broccoli and beef bowl

Lingered for a bit and before i knew it i was rationalizing pouring a bowl of life cereal+peanut butter and a cup of milk

it didn't even taste that good holy fuck why did I do that it's just sitting in my stomach

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>Sadness comes in
>Hunger rises
I wont make it.

>>42355428
Powerade zero is 0 calories, bigger, does the same thing and 80cent each

>>42355410
Best of luck pal. Be sure to check in with us every now and then. /fat/bros gotta help each other out.

>>42355478
Oh shit so it is...they're basically interchangeable in my eyes

>>42355428
>>42355478
rainman fucking exposed

>>42355463
I think that this bad experience will at least set him straight for a couple weeks to a good month, which should be more than enough to solidify some better diet habits at least. It really was a tale of misfortune, but really that is part of life. All my wishes of rehabilitation to your dad, Rainman.

>>42355498
No issue, anon. Did you find it on their website? I know sometimes myprotein isn't the most easy to search, so if you need help ask me.

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IM SO FUCKING HUNGRY

>>42355548
I found the amino acid blend which is what I think it is. It's expensive though and I'm low on money. Did some searching only and found an electrolyte add in at walmart that is one of the squirt into water things and is 0 cal and only 2$ for a 24 serving thing of it.

Thank god for peanut butter powder

HOW do i overcome snacking right before bed? I CANT go to bed on an empty stomach and i know its hurting my diet a bit. Its a habit ive had since i was a kid.

Im already down 100 pounds, and i have another 30 to lose.

>>42355567
This but I've had my 1000 cals today so no more. Sleep at 6pm though at least

>>42355573
get that then, anon. It might be a lesser pure composition, or a higher blend of the cheaper electrolytes to be reasonably priced, but still you can survive on that. Better than nothing imo. If you're really curious, check the detailed composition.
Also in my country myprotein sells pure electrolyte powder, not amino acid blend. I found out you guys in the US don't have it for some reason, weird. You guys also don't have some products we do have here.

>>42352946

Don't count calories burned in activities and just eat 500 under maintenance. Shoot for 100+g of protein daily and you'll be fine.

The FDA is a fucking pain in the ass over here. I have a back injury that the FDA won't aprove the treatment for even though it works better than the treatments that they have approved and has been in use for close to a decade now. I would have to travel to Europe and pain out of pocket to get it.

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>>42355606
pic related

>>42355422
How bad is this sugar going to screw me?

>>42355653
have you checked out medigo anon? it's basically a cheap travelling+medical care service that allows you to compare and find ways to have operations/treatments for way cheaper abroad, closest to your country.

>>42355653
was meant for >>42355606

I got really hungry and I ate 400g of 4.5% fat yogurt. Did I fuck up?

>>42354891
The point is that a 100kg person losing 1kg of weight is losing more weight proportionate to a 200kg person losing 1kg of weight, so of course the less you weigh, the more that weight loss will affect your appearance.

>>42355701
How many kcals and protons?

>>42355689
I'm the anon that your post was meant for, and the one that answered you, anon, for reference.

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I have sinned /fit/. I felt into new pizza court. I blame my female coworker. I need penance Father for my shattered soul.

>>42355688
Well I'm trying to go a non-surgical route with cell treatment right now as that has the best results but insurance won't cover it because the FDA still considers "experimental" even though stemcell treatment has been around since the 90s and cause the disc in the back to completely repair themselves. If that doesn't work I'm going to have to check out that website and head to europe to get the better surgery performed as that is the best option besides the stemcell.

>>42355714
272 kcal

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>>42355726
Read /fit/ sticky 3 times and eat 300g of broccoli for sins, my son.

>>42355745
Not great but not irredeemable or anything. Just eat a little less for the rest of the day. Try plain Greek yogurt next time. The one I have is 80kcals and 15g protein.

>>42355748
I will mention I lost 4lbs since the beginning of July. Does one cheat day may reverse my progress?

>>42355737
I feel you. I have this condition on my legs that never had an actual cure up until 2008, and the treatment is really painful (2 full days with three catheters into the main veins with regular injections of a solution) however it's the only thing that works. Gonna have to do it eventually because unless I do I will probably die soon.
I won't do it abroad though, because where I am, we have a pretty good healthcare that covers big interventions like these for the most part. Stay strong for now anon, you'll break on through.

>>42355422
Weight loss is a long term war. Don't let the loss of one battle feminism your spirits.

Also learn to drink black fucking coffee or crunch caffeine pills. Diet sodas are fucking horrible for you. Salt, chemicals, fake sweets. It just perpetuates the addiction. I was at 12 cans of Diet Coke a day. Switched over to 4 cups of black coffee a day and I lost 10lbs I never gained back. I don't crave Diet Coke or redbull anymore but I'll get some topo Chico for that bubbly.

>>42355789
You reversed a bit less than 1 pound of weight loss. Just cut your calories by an equal amount over the next week to compensate.

>>42355796
Thanks anon. I'm taking a long shot right now at getting a neurosurgeons recommendation for the treatment so I can file a special request to get them to cover it but it's unlikely they will cover it even with that. When that doesn't work out I'm going to try and find some kind of stem cell treatment study to get into so I can try and get the treatment for free that way. Other wise it's time to start saving money. It's a lot cheaper than surgery luckily at 5-7k a treatment but it's still a lot as I could need multiple treatments.

>>42355586
How do you consume this

>>42355797
It's an energy drink not a soda.

>>42355893
>person asks question
>someone replies with thoughtful advice
>anon points out minor inconsistency to discredit the entire post and continue having the fat mindset

Never. Gonna. Make. It.

>>42354612
What? How is conditioning yourself to not enjoy a bad habit unhealthy?

>>42355948
Get over yourself anon I made no attempt to discredit your post you need to stop being so sensitive.

I've been loosing a pound a day for awhile so I don't see how I'm not making it either.

>>42355948
>anon uses something with different with different ingredients to make a point
>other anon says that he's using other product with different ingredients
>YOU'RE JUST FAT NEVER GONNA MAKE IT

>>42355991
>3,500 cal deficit a day

wew lads

>>42355991
> implying he's sensitive about it
> implying he's not laughing his ass off
> implying your weight loss justifies your stupid ass comment

lul

>>42355967
Bad habits change faster with introduction of better, more easily accessible habits verses cold turkey self punishment. It doesn't have to be flogging yourself because you failed.

>>42356069
I workout and have cut down to just 500 cal a day. I've always both gained and lost weight easily too.

>>42356092
Soda is literally just flavored syrup mixed with water I used to mix that shit for work. These energy drinks don't have any of that syrup in them. Completely different products.

>>42356092
>implying
>implying
>implying
>he
>he
It's you and you know it. Honestly you sound pretty upset.

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>>42354876
Today and yesterday I had to eat at a Chinese buffet Because of reasons. I was lot more active both days so I hope the damage is minimal. That being said won't eat anything today to avoid gaining even more weight.

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>>42356119
>These energy drinks don't have any of that syrup in them

>>42356148
It's okay anon. I believe in you!

>>42356167
Where is the corn syrup anon?

Do not fall for the protein bar meme

Not even once

I came THIS close to scoffing down a little tart that was sitting on the counter in the kitchen.

>>42356207
>Soda is literally just flavored syrup
>Where is the corn syrup anon?

Looks like that goalpost just got moved even further.

>Sucralose is an artificial sweetener and sugar substitute.

W E W L A D S

>when you come to /fat/ and it's full of people trying to weasel out of dropping their shitty dietary choices
If someone gives you good advice and you react aggressively you are donezo and never gonna make it. Fix your attitude.

>>42356218
Which ones did you get? They have ones that are 200 cal with 20g protein and 2g sugar? Still better off getting it from other sources

>>42356240
>sugar subsittute
Still not a syrup

No one moved the goalpost either corn syrup is the syrup that is in pop. I asked you where it is and you named a sugar substitute instead.

>>42353586
Hey anon, if you're still on this thread: Honestly, in your situation I'd just use the opportunity to work on willpower. Make a small change to get yourself used to resisting temptation. Whatever change that is, it's up to you. Maybe only one klondike bar a day or week. People will call me an idiot for such small goals but the idea is to snowball it. And to establish long terms habits.

When you start, you'll have to actively tell yourself no. Over time, "no" will become indifference. The "want" never goes away - why would it? Snacks are delicious - but you learn to say "nah, not right now".

Another way of putting it, when I go to the store I see video games. A lot of video games I'd love to own. But I might glance at them for a second then move on. It's not that I don't want them, but it's that I don't need them this instant. So it will become with junk food. And yes there are times where it is difficult, but it'll happen. Godspeed, anon.

Is this stuff bad?

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/default.aspx?id=268029441

it seems fine from the nutrition labels but I am no expert on sweeteners

>>42356119
>These energy drinks don't have any of that syrup in them

What because it's already mixed in the can? If they had monster in soda fountains it'd be syrup mixed on the spot just like all other soda pops. Even diet soda has a syrup component.

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>>42356263
Fuck your right its really hard to find syrup in monster.

Oh wait this is diet coke. Fuck. It's almost like its the same fucking thing.

>>42356297
>Even diet soda has a syrup component.
That's because it's soda.

>What because it's already mixed in the can?
No because syrup is not part of it's ingredients.

>>42356310
>soda is the same thing as an energy drink
No it's not. Keep trying though.

>had a cup of ice cream yesterday
End me lads

>>42356310
Notice how you keep having to cite different products to try and make your argument and can't successfully make it off the product in question? Yeah I have too.

>>42356336
What flavor?

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>>42356315
>No because syrup is not part of it's ingredients.

Look at this diet coke label. No syrup. Is it a soda or not?

coke zero and pepsi max both have zero sugars and (give or take 1 calorie) zero calories

i believe most of the flavour comes from the various acids used.

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>>42356336

Is it bad that I'm using ice cream to up my calorie intake each day?

I usually end up at 200 cals below goal and a small serving of ice cream helps greatly with feeling fuller and there's always a psychological boost. Too much sugar?

>>42356413
Eat halo top or something similar. Tastes good and has more proteins

>>42356349
The original argument being that the given advice was discarded because it was soda and not an energy drink therefore, because they are such radically different products the advice did not apply and should not be listened to.

Upon further inspection the reasoning as to why the diet soda themed advice was not listened to was because energy drinks "don't have that syrup shit."

But if we look to the labels between the two drinks that were specifically mentioned, neither of the ingredients have "syrup shit" on the label.

Weird how that goal post keeps moving, huh?

>>42356372
Yup it's soda. So, your argument is that this other different product is bad so this other product with different ingredients is bad too? Great argument you got there. One product is made from syrup the other is water mixed with energy products and some flavoring.

>>42356419
The only one who moved the goal post is your anon. I've mixed diet soda for work. It is water mixed with syrup. I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate that energy drinks are syrup based.

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>>42356168
Thank you Anon, I need the support.

So how unhealthy is a Chinese buffet? How much gained weight am I looking at?

>>42356367
Sherbert

who /extremecut/ here? I can ignore hunger but the worst is when friends want to hang out. I basically bring celery to gnaw on with them and keep getting shit for it. I know they are just goofin' but I'm just sick of being fat. Lost 20lbs so far.

>>42356425
You said diet soda has syrup because it's a soda. When I showed you it doesn't contain syrup you said it's still a soda. What are your criteria for soda? Also what is your criteria for syrup?

My argument is that your premise is flawed.

Can the deluded fucker trying to justify drinking nutritionally empty garbage please just fucking stop. You know it's bad for you, either cut it out or fuck off and accept that both you and your weight won't change.

>>42356440
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008O7X2H4

Look at that bag of energy drink syrup

>>42356537
Stop being an idiot and get on keto.

>>42356537
>eating calories on an /extremecut/
why not just completely fast for a few days instead, enter ketosis and save yourself from starvation mode that your calorie restricted diet is currently putting you in?

>>42356615
>>42356622
because keto is a meme diet for meme men

>>42356539
No, my argument is that you are wrong is claiming that just because diet soda is sabotaging your weight that this other different product that I am having no problem loosing weight on is sabotaging mine.

Your argument is.
>[other product] interfered with my weight loss
>anon is successfully loosing weight quickly while drinking [this product]
>[this product] must be sabotaging his weight loss because [other product] sabotaged mine

You have yet to justify that claim and have instead worked to slowly move that argument away from what you claimed. Now you try to present the argument as being something that it isn't. The only one who has moved the goalpost here is you.

>>42356601
>this other energy drink from a different brand is this
>yours is this too
Great argument.

>>42356537
I'm on an extremecut. You are better off not snaking and only eating the meals that are part of the diet, the hunger goes away after a bit then it's just weight loss. Make sure you exercise regularly to get your metabolism up to drop the pounds. Ignore the anon who said to fast, you want to get as much protein in your diet with the calories you are eating to prevent muscle loss. Weight lifting also helps with the muscle loss. I also found weight lifting to help control my hunger.

The pounds drop crazy fast like this. I'm just a bit over a month away from a healthy weight now.

>>42356518
disgusting. Repent by doing 50 push-ups and reducing your daily calorie intake by 100kcal for a week.

>>42356679
Oh and to add onto this make sure you take a chewy multivitamin with your extremecut to prevent a vitamin deficiency.

>>42356679
>Your argument is. [piles of garbage]

Oh. I'm a different anon than the other one you were talking to. My bad for not clarifying. In any case you still haven't clarified what soda or syrup is.

>>42356679
Ohhhh now I have to prove that YOUR energy drinks are syrup based. Ok fine give me a list of approved energy drinks to prove that are syrup based.

>>42356658
you are currently denying your body the opportunity to use your body fat as your primary fuel source. instead you are eating your celery which in turn pumps up your insulin which in turn activates your hunger hormones. you are ruining your metabolism. your muscles are becoming atrophied to fuck because just when your body is about to dip into ketosis, you feed it a little something and it keeps thinking a meal is gonna come.

if you instead went on a complete fast, not only would you be saying goodbye to hunger, you would also be saying goodbye to body fat. you would see a return to normal metabolism and appetite. you would NEED to take in vitamins and minerals in some form. your body would be pissing out electrolytes that need replacing and are essential to every day functions.

keto is not a meme diet.

>>42356708
>chewy multivitamin
>Monster energy drinks


Do you want any chicken tendies with your /extremecut/?

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>>42356752
not him but i had keto chicken tendies yesterday and they were the closest i've ever come to tasting kfc since going on keto

>>42356721
>come into the middle of an argument
>we're now going to argue about other thing
No, the argument was about whether or not monster ultra sabotages my weight loss because the other anon was having trouble loosing weight while drinking 12 (yes TWELVE) sodas a day. If you don't want to argue about that then argue with someone else.

>>42356752
>chewy multivitamins
>a type of multivitamin that you body has an easier time absorbing
>this makes you a child
Great argument anon. Are you upset because you aren't loosing weight as fast as me?

>>42356776
> I refuse to engage because I'm being put in a logistical corner

Learn to troll better

>>42356743
>https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/ugly-truth-about-ketogenic-diets

>>42356776
>Are you upset because you aren't loosing weight as fast as me?

Woh, there big guy. I'm not upset about anything. I just think youre an idiot for not knowing how soft drinks are manufactured. I'm proud of you though, eventually you'll be able to post on the rest of /fit/. One day.

>>42356792
>not wanting to bother with someone trying to change what argument is about means your trolling
Okay friend. I'll be at the finish line when you get there, see you there.

>>42356615
>>42356622
I lost 20lbs in a month and a half, can your keto do that

>>42356817
>all of this shit talking
>I'm not upset though
>please believe me
Sure anon.

>>42356486
Boogie/10

>>42356818
I was there before you were. With proof that all energy drinks are syrup based. But since you won't tell me a single one to verify I guess you're scared of getting to that finish line eh.

>>42356818
Also tell me how diet coke is a soda if it doesn't have syrup. Seriously what is the model.

Why can't you stop being wrong?

>>42356836
Great, now that you responded with a false positive to some pseudo ironic statement and you totally don't have your panties in a bunch, will you please give us your definition of what a soda is.

>>42356811
i am aware of all these things. yes keto affects gains. but so does weight loss in general.

>>42356100
people break out of habits differently, also what hes doing definitely doesnt fit into "flogging yourself because you failed", hes simply making the snacks he's eating undesireable to condition his body to not eat snacks

why do I lose the turkey neck gobble?

>>42356834
and how much of that 20lbs was lean mass?

>>42356852
>I was there before you were.
Sure you were anon.

I'm sure my energy that I use to have enough energy to work out everyday while eating only 500 calories is really sabotaging my weight as much as your 12 sodas a day was.

>>42356882
>>42356893
>accuse someone of moving the goal post
>move the goal post and try to claim it was there the whole time
Am I supposed to take you seriously?

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Nothing worked. My spirit was always broken, least I was able to do, was keeping my weight the same.

Today I decided to jump into intermittent fasting. If I already dropped soda, sweets, and try not to eat shit - maybe what I needed was some small window, so I don't overeat or snack on shit mindlessly.

I hope I can make it. 150 kg at 182 cm. Fuck.

drink black coffee or tea instead of diet soda, keeps you better hydrated

I'm back in my hometown after 3 years to help my parents. Moved in with gf in my parents' house. We both work in the family restaurant. I feel like I'm never going to lose weight since working by night is fucking tiring so we eat lots of free pizzas weekly during working hours or very late before going to sleep.

Keep it up guys, you can do it I'll always support my fatananons.

>>42356913
You're burning all kinds of energy by not answering my question - if you had answered it I would leave you alone!

But hey it's a good workout for me too anon! Keeps me ahead of you by keeping that energy burning!

>>42355726
Powodzenia, anon. Przejebałeś sprawę pizzą, ale cola jest jeszcze gorsza - przemęcz się i przyzwyczaj do Zero, zawsze to jakieś kalorie niżej, gdy już zdecydujesz się wciągać gówno.

>>42356950
>move the goalpost
>plz respond
Okay anon.

>>42356899
been moving up on weight for sets and running even better than before. just get your protons and willpower.

>>42356946
nigga i live am literally living with the klumps. every weekend they bring back tons of shit food to eat throughout the weeks. but you've just got to buy your own food. and when your own food is there in the fridge you have an impetus to eat it.

I have no idea how my form was, but I managed to deadlift 1.5pl8 , and it did feel kind of good when I did it. Got a little dizzy after the last reps in each set - didn't take all reps on all of them though.
However, bad squatting day. I'm so stiff! I can't keep my balance, even without a bar and it's all so hard.

I think my sedentary lifestyle has broken my bones. It feels as if I'm twisting my right hip when I try to stand with my feet straight forward, and when I look in the mirror, the feet looks uneven while looking OK from my head.
Not to mention my right side is stronger then my left, so everything is off balance.
Why can't there be a reset-button..

>>42356942
Yeah but energy drinks are way different though right?

>>42356696
Will do.

>>42357005
And that means I can OHP more then I can squat, which isn't a whole lot for either exersize.
My left shoulder started to hurt too, guess the imbalance gets the better off me.

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>>42356597
yeah I'm getting sick of these diet soda/energy drink shills for real...It's one thing going on about your day consuming it, it's another shilling for it at least two out of three threads we make.

>>42357019
no they're shit desu

I fucking made it today lads but I was close to giving in.

I had a shite day at work and came home feeling completely depressed and lethargic. Usually need to make dinner as soon as I get home from work/gym or I struggle to make the effort. By 9pm I’d had nothing and was thinking about the 15gbp credit I have on my deliveroo account and the free pizza on my PJ’s account.... finally made a homemade curry.

Only problem is now I don’t feel like I have time to clean my kitchen, shower AND get a good nights sleep tonight. Which will make me feel worse tomorrow.

I hate being a lazy piece of shit

>>42357038
But they don't have syrup tho

>>42356975
When people repeated ask you a question and you don't answer, it isn't a sign that you know what you're talking about, you know.

So then, what is a soda, what is a syrup?

What is your approved list of energy dronks that I can prove use syrup.

Or will you just confess that you meant corn syrup and dug yourself into a hole?

>>42356946
i work part time at a pizza place and am down 100lbs. i have thrown away literally hundreds of pizzas in the garbage. use some fucking will power.

>>42357113
>change the subject to avoid having to prove that an energy drink before you workout is just as bad as the 12 pops a day you were drinking
>your dodging the question
Okay anon.

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>accidentally inhaled a carb

>>42357186
DO NOT SNORT THE SUGAR

>>42357157
I already told you I'm a different anon. But sure lets keep playing this game.

What if I ask the inverse question? Can you prove that energy drinks aren't made with syrup? I'll even give requirements since you are unable to do so.

My requirements are:
1) It's one energy drink in this list: Monster, Red Bull, Rooster Booster. If you are unable I might consider another carbonated energy drink.
2) You link to an external source. Simply saying "I saw it mixed" doesn't count. I provided an amazon link as my proof earlier.

Or will you reply with "Okay anon" because I have you so thoroughly in a corner?

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>told not to get dunkin coffe everyday anymore
>still do
>still losing weight while on cut

hehehe...

>>42357247
Who told you not to get coffee? Just don't load it with cream and sugar.

>>42357271
hehe but I do :) down 15lbs over the course of 2 months today

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>>42354876
Yesterday was no good. I splurged on peanuts. Today I've made an active effort to not splurge. My weakness is peanut butter so I've made a rule to only consume it if it's with something high in fiber. Today it was baby carrots and oats. I know, I'm a shameful man-child.

>>42354876
For the last week I've been eating junk food while travelling around the state. Whenever I'm off routine I fall off hard. And when I say hard I mean like gained 12 pounds hard.

That said I'm back on routine and have no travel plans for a while so I should be good.

>>42357222
>I'm a different anon
>That means you have to engage me in this other argument that I decided
Nah. I think your just upset because I pointed out that me drinking an energy drink before I work out to push myself harder isn't as bad as you drinking 12 soda pops a day.

Any way to make fried rice healthy? I just use a bit of butter, but that's it and I don't think it's too bad. Only thing is the salt from the sauce mix.
I made 2 cups of rice, prob only going to have 1 bowl of chicken fried rice for dinner, that'll be it.

Can I drink soda?

>>42357324
Well, I don't know if you're unable or unwilling, but you're not answering me and I'll just assume you figured out you have no leg to stand on.

Winning arguments by verbally beating people into submission isn't my preferred way to do it. But at this point if you had a counterpoint you would've used it.

I just had an idea - What if I confessed that pop is bad for the other anon? Would you answer me then? Your refusal would make my victory complete, after all.

>>42357369
I lost 100lbs drinking diet soda. It's great. You can drink soda (regular or diet) but be aware of the effects and your macros.

>>42357390
Fuck sorry, let me correct myself. It's diet soda with diet and exercise. Diet soda alone didn't do it. My bad.

>>42357372
>I won the argument because you refused to engage my moved goalpost
I'm sure you actually think that anon.

Answer you want? About an argument that only you have been part of? Why should i do that? You are denying the dictionary definition of soda pop which is carbonated water mixed with flavoring and syrup. As for which energy drink I drink I already stated that earlier in the argument, quite literally right after pointing out that him drinking 12 sodas a day isn't comparable to me drinking an energy drink.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soda%20pop

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>>42357445
Keep talking anon

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>>42354876
Just had a roast dinner and weigh half a stone heavier than this morning and i want to stick a knife in my jugular! :D

>>42357464
I'm sure you think you made an actual argument anon.

>>42357445
>You are denying the dictionary definition of soda pop which is carbonated water mixed with flavoring and syrup

I'm not denying it. I'm saying Energy drinks are made the same way. Because, lol, Energy drinks are soda.

>>42357526
>I'm claiming this
>You have to prove I'm wrong
Where is your proof.

Come on anon. The argument is about Monster Zero Ultra not being comparable to drinking 12 soda pops a day.

You made the claim it's a soda pop so now prove it.

>>42355422
>been drinking monster zero ultras on my low calorie diet to maintain energy to work out

>>42355797
>I was at 12 cans


This is what the argument is about. A monster zero ultras before working out vs 12 cans of coke a day.

I'm still waiting on your proof anon.


Oh and by the way the are studies that prove that consuming some kind of energy supplement before a workout improves the workout.

>>42357596
>You made the claim it's a soda pop so now prove it.

"Okay anon"
"Im sure you think that's an argument anon"
"Why should I respond to your changing goalposts anon"

Look at how superior I am for not answering!

>>42357002
>but you've just got to buy your own food.
I can't drive yet and live far from the city.

Been fighting and training for like 5 years, cant say all that time ive ate properly, and cant seem to lose that last tiny layer of fat with anything i do.. any advices?

Are CLAs or creatine worth it and in which doses?
Also i only take pre workout whey with fruits or something that i feel im missing on that week

>>42357622
So what your saying is that you've been full of shit this whole time, moved the goal post to try and make your argument and now can even back up your moved goal post.

I'm still waiting on that proof.

>supposed to start week three of C25K today
>kind of tired from manual labor work

ughhhhhhh I guess I'll do it at a lower speed or something.

>>42357645
>I'm still waiting on that proof.

Welcome to where I've been for the last hour. How do those turned tables feel, anon?

>>42357639
i can't drive either. i live in a village. whenever my dad goes shopping i go with him and buy my own stuff.

>>42357653
>where I've been for the last hour
No, where you've been is desperately trying to move the goal post to cover up your failed argument and now you just got called out for having no proof to back up either of your arguments.

Feels good knowing how salty me loosing weight quickly on a diet you don't approve of makes you.

Now, I'm going to go work out.

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>>42351460
>226lbs 6'0
>closest gym is 120 miles away

I'm doomed aren't I?

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>>42357369
500ml is quite ok to put in calories and macros but more than 500ml is killer. There is many drinka with less calories, sugar and carbs like nestea for instance.

>>42357682
Man, glad I didn't give up so soon when you refused to answer me.

Not that I expected someone like you to stick with it anyway. Because I have the stamina, you don't.

>>42357689
I meant diet soda

>>42356967
500ml łatwo jeszcze ukryć. Od miesiąca nie przekroczyłem kalorii na utrzymanie wagi. Poradzimy sobie jakoś. Nestea jest całkiem ok w kaloriach i węglach.

>>42357713
Taste shit, I always start drink real Coke after diet. It is easier to go water than diet. First few days are shit if you bail coke by after that is easy. Just don't fail to buy coke. If you buy give someone for free or something. First you need switch before you buy and before you sip. Some sort of security for that.

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>>42357685
I was 270 6' and am down to 190, still have a ways to go but weight loss is definitely doable & starts with what you eat don't worry about lifting until you get your diet figured out because it's way too easy to fall in to "oh I'm lifting weights/running/doing bw exercises, so I don't need to really change my diet" and then you make 0 fat loss progress and any muscle gains you make are rendered irrelevant by the layer of fat that hides them

>>42357755
How long it took to drop this weight?

>>42357682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VOLuhRqsNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHQXxhd4CHE

Same exact process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_drink

After placing a notice in a trade magazine seeking a bottler, he formed a partnership with Charles Gordon of Tri-City Beverage to produce and distribute the soda.[41]

Energy drinks were created as a different type of soda and are referred to as such.

See? I can deliver. Unlike you.

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>>42356218
What's so bad about protein bars anon?
...I eat them pretty much every day....

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>>42356846
Gonna starve for another day then.

>>42356281
Pls help

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>>42354876
I didn't do anything bad. But sometimes I't crack open a six pack and just let my self go.

>>42357833
Different anon. I like protein bars but they clogged me up so bad that I got hemorrhoids.

123 kg now, from 125 last week. Keeping up that cardio even if I'm exhausted from work. As long as I work up a sweat and I'm breathing hard by the end of it, I'm good.

We're all going to make it.

>>42357833
Not a great protein to calories ratio. You're better off with protein powder or meat

protip: beef jerky, if you can find it cheap in your area, is an awesome alternative for protein bars

>>42357815
>the canning process for a completely different brand is proof
Good job anon.

Also, soda and soda pop are two different things. Soda pop (aka coke) is made from soda.

Soda is just the name for carbonated water. Soda pop is soda mixed with syrup and flavoring.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soda%20pop
a beverage consisting of soda water, flavoring, and a sweet syrup

Keep trying though anon.

And your still only going on about your moved goal post. I have yet to see you back up your claim that drinking 12 soda pops a day is the same as me drinking a Monster Zero Ultra before I work out.

>>42357873
Shit really? I eat pure protein & it has a laxative effect eaten at high quantities so no worries with that. That sounds terrible though.

>>42357800
Sick dubs, it took me about 6 months to get from 270 to 220 then I stalled for a bit and got complacent so it took me about 9 months to get from 220 to 210 and then I've gone from 210 to 190 in the last two months or so.

>>42357910
>And your still only going on about your moved goal post. I have yet to see you back up your claim that drinking 12 soda pops a day is the same as me drinking a Monster Zero Ultra before I work out.

I don't know how many times I need to tell you I'm a different anon. I even offered to concede the other anon's point.

Meanwhile I've delivered things to back my claims while you haven't. You just keep dodging.

ALSO weren't you gonna work out? Or did you run out of stamina?

Is it possible to gain muscle while losing weight on a cut? I'm a fatass. Should I lose weight first then go to lifting?

>>42357961
>Meanwhile I've delivered things to back my claims while you haven't.
You haven't though. Your "proof" wasn't what you claimed it to be.

>You just keep dodging.
Nope I've posted the exact definition of soda pop from the webster dictionary multiple times now.

>ALSO weren't you gonna work out?
Just finished showering and getting dressed. I'm going now, have fun fatass.

I'm sure you'll try to misrepresent some other "proof" as backing up your point and rely on me being out working out for it to not get refuted though like you just tried to do though.

>>42357998
No, lift while you loose weight to reduce muscle loss. You will look better when you are done that way. I'm going to the gym now.

>>42357998
doing a big cut its very difficult to lift and improve. You might as well just focus on losing the weight first through cardio and diet. I still do light lifts in hopes that I can retain some type of arm muscle but I'm more interested in losing tb.h right now

>>42358004
>like you just tried to do though.

Now listen here. You dropped the whole "I'm gonna work out" nonsense on me, while I was looking up sources.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/soda?s=t

soda and soda pop are interchangeable. My point still holds. Your weak ass definition-shifting doesn't change that.

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>spergs still arguing about nothing.

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>be stuck at 185 for 2 weeks
>go to parents house
>stopped gym and exercise all together
>eat as little as possible of mom's food to avoid weight gain (roughly estimated calories)
>after 10 days, hospital scale shows that im at 181
That scale could be busted right? there's no way i lost all of that in a week and a half right?

>>42358096
Sometimes a change of routine makes your body do weird things.

>been on a low cal day
>think im gonna make it
>CRAVINGS MUTHERFUCKER TIME FOR DIN DIN
>somehow stop my hand right before clicking order on SO MUCH FOOD
>manage to get to my emergency banana stash
>smash down one of those tasty mofo's
>craving subsides

I... I did it
I have never managed to hold back before
however sad it sounds, this is a huge milestone

>>42358096
Hospital scale is likely accurate
10 days and 5 lbs isnt unthinkable with 2lbs either way variance
either way, you made some real progress friendo

>>42353586
become disciplined
you are allowed x amount a day of them according to your macros

stick to it
treat it as a reason to live on days it gets hard
fight your urges and become strong

if you mess up, immediately get back together and start fighting again, dont try to undo the damage, that risks failing even easier, just keep pushing forward

>>42358178
>dont try to undo the damage, that risks failing even easier, just keep pushing forward

This was a breakthrough for me. I would try and compensate and make things worse. A bad meal or a bad day is only that. Get right back on next time.

>>42358111
sounds good banananon, even though bananas are pretty hefty calorie grenades at ~100kcal each, if that's what it takes to hold off a craving then you do you senpai

>>42358111
The trips demonstrate the importance of this victory. Go in peace, your faith has saved you

> Hungry
> Realize I have money
> Could order a pizza right now
> No work needed, literally I go to a website, click a few times, 40 minutes later there is a pizza at my door
> Would be so easy
> Lay in bed thinking about it for ten minutes
> Don't want to sabotage myself
> It would be so easy though
> Finally decide to check for a /fph/ thread on 4chan
> Read the entire thing and get angry for wanting to order a pizza
> Post this stupid shit in /fat/

Small victories I guess

>eat well for a week
>under calories
>work out and sweat
>gained 1 pound

what the fuck

quick question, when cooking steak and chicken how do you season them?

my mothers method of seasoning is vegetable oil which is loaded in calories and if I want to make any more progress, I need to cut the oil out

>>42358477
Why do you think lying to us is going to accomplish anything?

>>42358489
cook 'em in butter or go home

t. keto

>>42358489
>>>/ck/
I'm fine with some salt and ketchup personally
don't need a whole rack of bullshit

>>42358489
spicy mustard and hot sauce

>>42358489
salt pepper and garlic will make pretty much any meat taste good

5'4 359lbs as of today. Wat do?

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>>42358434
No such thing as a "small" victory, compadre.

I'm 5 lbs away from losing 100 lbs so far and halfway to my goal. We're all gonna make it /fat/ties.

>>42358489
300g chicken breast with 1.5 tbsp of butter, 1 tsp garlic powder and .5 tsp salt. Melt the butter first, then add split breast, then add seasonings

680 cals, almost 100g protein, 2 carbs and takes less than 20 minutes start to finish. Go forth and make gains, my son

>>42358434
Do what needs to be done anon. Good for you

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>mom thinks counting calories doesn't work

>>42359185
>We're all gonna make it
but then what

>>42359291
My mom knows it works and won't try it. She thinks she can just do exercise. She just won't listen or refuses to acknowledge that hard work is required. You can't keep drinking soda's mom!

>>42359302
Then we bulk up, with muscle instead of fat. Then cut. And bulk again.

Until we are happy with ourselves.

>>42359312
I would say most people know how to lose weight, they just don't want to do it.

They'd love to be slimmer or fitter, but they don't want to give up carte blanche to eat as much as they want to.
And they usually realize this 2-4 weeks into their diet.

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>just drank 3 mini bottles of diet coke
>usually go to gym at 7:30 for cardio every tuesday

if I go on the elliptical where I'm bouncing up and down repeatedly for 30-40 minutes am I going to get monumental painful gas or throw up?
I think I fucked up

>>42359355
Haha you are going to explode

really ratty as of late
like right now, I want to smash my brother's face in because he's breathing loudly and there's no need for it

12 cans of Coke a day guy here.

Good thread guys.

>>42353859
But eating a PSMF diet, you'd still be eating more than 300 calories a day

>>42359355
Stop drinking diet soda you fat idiot

>>42359344
>And they usually realize this 2-4 weeks into their diet.
I honestly had no idea counting calories and boosting my burn/metabolism with lifting and cardio was so simple and effective. Weight loss seems like something infinitely and easily sustainable to me now.

Guess I was just living in ignorance, but I don't think I ever want to go back to eating junk food.

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Legs really sore after 25 minute cardio session.

...why did this happen
>>42351460

There is a new thread up, sorry I don't know how to link.

>>42360326
>>42359286