saw a DYEL squatting 3pl8

Functional Strength

>>42350832
I-is it possible to learn this power?

>>42350893

You need to do weighted dips 3 times a week and go vegan.

>>42350805
big arms, chest, and back is not required to squat 315

very little muscle mass in general is required to squat 315, even in the quads/glutes

I do crossfit and powerlifting, and there's a guy at my crossfit class who can front squat 315+, backsquat around 360, powerclean 225, the dude weight 150lbs, I dont understand, he's tiny

>>42350932
So what is required to squat 315

>>42350805

Maybe he's not a pussy.

>>42350893
yes, but not from a /fraud/

1/2/3/4 is the begginer standard

>>42350805
2pl8 reps, 3pl8 1RM.. so this was <6 month lifting?

Those are not hard to hit and it takes time to build mass.

>>42351230
good form and a decent posterior chain, which in many cases are muscles that don't even show

>How the fuck is this possible?
>His form was perfect too

Case dismissed

>>42350805
You are a brainlet who follows the "fitness" industry/community and who has totally skewed idea of what strength and decent muscularity means.

315 is not heavy

>>42351230
~4 months of doing ss consistently.

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>ITT memelords that squat 142,5kg

140kg is heavy by any normal standard, that's like saying a 11,5 second 100m sprint isn't fast because Bolt ran one in 9,79 seconds.

>>42351395
then again, for a Olympic sprinter, 11.5 seconds is slow

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>>42351418
>normal standard

strength=/=size

t. weak squat and 26.5" quads at low bodyfat, I'm fucking pathetic strength-wise but my legs are pretty joocy from doing high rep shit back in the days

>>42350805

I've never even tested my 1RM squat, but I'm guessing it's >2pl8 without even training it

You can have a lot of strength with little muscle volume, you'd know this if you did more cardio and stopped believing in the bulking meme.

>>42351455
You're definitely wrong.

If you don't train squat your 1RM is probably like 160lbs

>>42351541
That's not true. Muscles are what make you strong.

Beyond priming your CNS and just getting the form right, your strength is directly proportional to your muscle mass.

That's why people who lift heavy weights are jacked.

You will never see someone who's not jacked (or absolutely fat) repping 225.

>>42351586

Nah, I do that for five easy.

Do people with higher muscle mass have a higher strength ceiling than those who got strong by CNS gains alone?

>>42351395
If your "normal standards" are standards for people who have never done anything physical, OK. But since we are talking about people who go to the gym, every male should be able to squat 140 kg after their first year of training, for reps even. If they can't they have been on an absolutely terrible program or have not been eating enough.

I started squatting with 50 kg. In about 6 months I was doing sets of 5 reps with 120 kg which translates to about 140 kg 1RM. That's +70 kg in 26 weeks, which means +2,69 kg every week. That's not even impressive.

>>42351592
>You will never see someone who's not jacked (or absolutely fat) repping 225.

I see girls and DYELs do that all the time. 225 for reps is not impressive in the least.

>tfw my 1RM for front squat is 300 lbs

Thought I was gonna die when I tested it out desu

>>42351625
Maybe he meant kg.

>>42350805
I have been lifting for two weeks and rep 80kg so I dont see how 2pl8 is a lot to rep for a dyel. also why would his chest size matter for squats?

>>42351592
I'm out of shape, DYEL by /fit/ standards and repped 225 for 15 in one set last week for shit and giggles.

After I hit 3 pl8 back squad, I stopped doing that meme fatty shitter lift and reverted to front squad.

My long femurs and knees have never thanked me more. And as a bonus, fronts helped in making my back hella shredded

>>42351613
most people who go to the gym dont squat three times a week, so even for a gymgoer repping 120kg is definitely a high squat, even more so within 6 months.

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>>42350805
I mostly wonder about the opposite
>guy obviously has more muscle mass than me
>benches 20kg
that's less then half of what i do and i still consider myself a dyel

or
>fag has nice shoulders and arms
>half repping curls with 10kg dumbbels and doing crossfit pullups

>>42351663
Like I said if they can't squat 140kg after a year of training they have been on a terrible program. You can get there after a year even if you squat 2 times a week.

>>42351702
While I do understand where you're coming from

>implying everyone lifts for strength

>>42351686
strength=/=size anywhere before advanced-elite strength levels
>>42351592
wrong, at low levels it's mostly CNS priming

I honestly have never met anyone online who wasn't squatting 315 within 6 months of training.

It's probably not even possible to post here if you aren't rapping 225 almost immediately.

>tfw bench 130 kg, OHP 80 kg, Row 140 kg
>tfw last squat set was 80 kg for 5

lmaoing at my life

>>42350805
You don't need a big chest, arms or back to squat

>>42351755
also I'm >>42351434, I'm sure I have bigger legs than some people who squat 4-5 pl8

to be fair, I don't really train my squat for strength, could do more if i wanted

>>42351592
225 is not that much for squats, plenty of people who look like shit repping 225

>>42351654
>front squats
>back
wat

>>42352829
I've never done front squats, but I'm pretty sure keeping your body uptight with a big weight on your shoulders must be a lot of work for the spinal erectors.

>>42352890
*upright

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>>42351750
>I honestly have never met anyone online who wasn't squatting 315 within 6 months of training.
and at the same time i never see anybody squatting 2 plates in real life. it's a commercial gym so i don't really see people squatting much at all except some grills, but then they go and do meme exercises like hip raises

>>42351229
I think you found Goku senpai

>>42351284
Retard detected

>>42352909
Same here

The heaviest I have seen is literally 3pl8 by a guy from the local weightlifting club

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>>42351750
>I honestly have never met anyone online who wasn't squatting 315 within 6 months of training.
Kek

>>42351262
>beginner standard
Riiiiiight. All the beginner skellies in my gym can barely bench 75lbs, let alone squat 135.

Where are all these people who squat 140kg after 6 months of training? I've been to gyms for probably close to 8 years now. Commercial gyms mostly, but seeing people squat anything over 120kg is rare.

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>>42351339
>4months

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>>42350805
Strength =/= size

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>>42351750
>I honestly have never met anyone online who wasn't squatting 315 within 6 months of training.

>>42350805
probably skier. did he have dat ass?
did cold-slip-n-slide for 14 years before starting to lift, could barely bench ORM 45kg but my squat was repping 105 easy

>>42353260
Its called E-statting. And everyone here is fucking terrible about it. Ive seen like 3 dudes at my gym go for a 3pl8 squat and like 1 dude (besides some fucking dyel kid who loaded the bar and left it after not even trying to lift it) deadlift 4pl8.

>>42353479
legs=/=upper body his bench is shit

>>42353219
It should be your goal as a beginner you sarcastic twit

>>42354604
bench is a meme exercise anyway

>>42353260
Commercial gyms is your answer m8, most people that like to lift would not go to commerical gyms.

Go to a black iron gym where literally people bench 4pl8 and squat 6pl8s+

>>42350805
lmao 1 rep of 3 pl8 is nothing

>>42351395
not for one rep, cmon

>>42351434
Same. Used to train aesthetics. Now trying strength training for a while. I'm pretty big and juicy and my squal and deadlift are shit.
>incels face when they see me squat 80kg
>incels face when they see me bench 120kg right after

>>42354641
post body

>>42353479
>it's posted on a memepic, it must be true

Oh look is another
>If you're not squatting 3pl8s after a couple of months training you're a pussy ass beta faggot low test bitch.

>>42354719
>Have a guy start from bar and go to 500 lbs in 2 years posts video and guy is not even overweight.
>Gais it takes you 10 years to hit 2 pl8 squat also everyone else is an e-stater because my shitty 24/7 smith machine gym doesn't have 2pl8 squatter.
kys

I was always the worst kid at sports. I weighed 63 kilos when I started and I went from low bar to high bar to low bar to high bar ATG paused squats. I decided to stay consistent with the ATG paused squats and got to 5x5 with two plates. Nine months after starting the gym.
I tried 3 pl8 a bit before the year and I got it grinding a lot and with horrible form.
I repeat, I was always the worst at sports. So dont be a faggot.

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This shit again.

1) A ton of factors influence strength beyond muscle size and skill with the movements used to test strength. The strength of individual muscle fibers, normalized muscle force, muscle moment arms, and body proportions can all have significant, independent effects on strength.

2) Just as there’s massive variability in muscle growth – some people gaining a ton of muscle in response to training, and other people gaining very little – there’s massive variability in strength gains as well. Normalized muscle force (how strong a muscle is relative to how large it is) can increase up to 39% for some people and decrease by as much as 5% for others, in response to the exact same training program.

3) Early on in training, there’s a very weak relationship between gains in muscle and gains in strength. Gains in muscle mass may explain as little as 2% of the variation in strength gains for new lifters.

4) For more experienced lifters, gains in muscle mass may explain up to 65%+ of the variability in strength gains, highlighting hypertrophy as a key factor for strength gains in trained lifters.

5) Training style has a big impact on the ratio of strength you gain relative to size, with heavier training generally producing larger gains in strength.
https://www.strongerbyscience.com/size-vs-strength/
pic related, differently sized ribcages result in superior leverages for the big framed guy.

All bullshit. Post one video of a small guy taking 3 plates ass to grass. Not that parallel bullshit but full blown Olympic squat with your ass about 6 inches above the ground and I will suck his dick

>>42355129
are you really this fucking delusional? 3 plate is fucking nothing. next time try not falling for meme routines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uuw7Kyyi9M

>>42350805
I'm 65kg dyel and deadlift 170kg. It's called strength training. Anyone who can't deadlift atleast 3pl8 don't lift.

>>42355262
Lmao implying that a handful of genetic freaks can do it means I'm delusional and it's possible. Love to see all you e stat tickets post your videos of your quarter squats

>>42355298
Nah, I guarantee you if you put on more weight you'll look a whole lot better.

>>42351592
I seen black people only bench 135 all the time and still look super swolled

>>42355889
You can get buff with a lighter weight but your progress with halt and stagnate if you don't increase and you can't increase, in most cases, without learning form; most people don't do this

Also, a lot of people you wouldn't say are on roids, are on roids

>>42355929
people respond to stimuli differently. Some have an easier time gaining and maintaing muscle mass than others, just the way it is

>/fit/ claims to start squatting lmao1plate!1 for 5 reps
>Rippetoe, who works with athletes, reports starting squat weight at around 30 kg for 5 reps
really made me think...

>>42353479
>being a traplet

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I don't squat but my deadlift is getting just to an intermediate level and I feel like I'm getting filled out. That said my lbm isn't increasing too fast even though my lifts are. I could see both points. Just train a variety of lifts and progress on all your muscle groups. You'll make it buddy.

>>42355981
also if you dont reach 3 pl8 for reps in something like 4 months you are not doing the program

>>42350893
>be skinny
>do ss
>don't go in large surplus

TUH DUH

>>42355889
This. Niggers are out here doing 175 MAX on the bench, looking swole af, while the whitebois I see 1RM 265 have arms only a bit bigger than mine.

>>42351592
what was that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84vmuuuHRg&t=266s

>>42355547
Probably will, but I'm cutting instead.

>>42353434
Its 7 months starting with the bar, or 18 weeks starting from 1pl8. Its perfectly realistic for a 1 rep max in that time.

>>42355965
unless you're a genetic dead-end this won't hinder you as much as you'd think.

Genetics play a huge part when taking muscle bellies etc in account. Not with hormonal differences.

People's metabolisms are also different but that doesn't mean you can blame being fat on you having a slow metabolism.

The people that lift little and look big are riding the wave of noob gains, if you lift long enough and they do to, you'll see them stagnate

>>42356129
Tfw you wasted your noob gains doing 3x10 on stupid machines and not dieting properly.

>>42356108
Oh, no its 12 weeks starting at 1 pl8, 18 starting at the bar. And this is for 3x5, not 1rm

>>42351639
how much do you weigh?

>>42350805
Threads like this make me think only ~10% or less people on fit actually lift. Everyone's acting like 3pl8 is baby's first milestone when I can count the number of people I've seen squatting 3pl8 or over on my hands. And I just go to a uni gym usually. I'm at the local Y for my summer and I've only seen 3 serious lifters do it. I haven't seen a single girl do 2pl8 either.

>>42356382
3 pl8 for reps I agree is not that easy and common
but as a one rep max?cmon

ITT: Edgy memelord trolls claiming that 1/2/3/4 for 5 reps is easy and should be obtained within a year.

>>42356509
They're not?

>>42356428
It's harder to reach that goal for people who start has Skellies. I was a former xc runner so I know. And you have to realize that 3pl8 is strong to literally every Normie on the planet. I was considered an average HS runner and I could do a mile under 5 and a low 17min 5k. Now I wasn't that fast compared to other runners but to Normies I was practically a demigod with those times.

Have some perspective anon. Everyonr comes from different places and not everyone is a serous lifter.

>>42356382
They aren't very good lifts. They are milestones for beginners to reach in their first year of training. They feel good when you hit them, but realize they aren't really shit once you hit 4 plate squat and 5 plate dead after that. 2/3/4 isn't 1,000 club.

They're "good" in the fact that they take a little time to reach, but they aren't actually impressive "good". You'll see 165 lb teenagers with 2 years of training under their belts smoking those numbers at local PL meets.

>>42350805
Because 3pl8 doesnt require you to have left the dyel stage you dyel

>>42353219
Because beginner doesnt mean first 2 weeks tahts why you dumb shitter

>>42356559
Blablalba everyone should squat 315 for reps within 6 months tops. tpkek

>>42356571
xD Jesus, yeah, thats why you see cirka 0 people at the gym squatting those numbers.

Please post pics or video of yourself or Ill assume youre lying

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>>42356604
>Within a year
Possibly
>within 6 months
pic related

>>42356571
Literally the only people I ever see putting up numbers like that are people I know are dedicated powerlifters or football players who loved lifting and kept it up after HS.

>>42356632
Do you understand the difference between "for reps" and a max?

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>>42356620
Not that guy, but here is a pic of my 172.5kg front squat i did today.

Is it actually that unbelievable to you, that you're just lifting in a shitter gym with a bunch of people who arent serious about their lifting? People who are actually SERIOUS reach 1234 easily decently fast, 1-2 years normally. Why do you project your standards and understanding of progress to others when you can barely deadlift 2pl8?

I can almost front squat 4pl8, and i have a long road ahead of me.

>>42356652
Of course. the original post I was quoting had 1 year as a time limit, in which many will be able to squat 315 for reps if they are dedicated. as for the 6 month mark no, I don't think so.

>>42356661
Theres a massive diff between 1 year and 2 years.

>>42356684
Genetics and dedication differs the two, and how large you are when you start plays a huge factor too.

People are different, but this is no excuse to say 1234 isnt a beginner milestone for serious lifters.

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>>42356661
you look a little fat

Everyone who thinks 1/2/3/4 is easy please look image.

You are literally an advanced lifter if you can do these for reps.

>Implying it doesnt take 2+ years to achieve

>>42356712
lmao at world class.
83 kg class is squatting 300 kilo and benching 200

>>42356620
Another guy this is old vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NAocy0amlw
Currently can squat 190kg (can post my vid as well if you want). Reached the squat in the vid in 13-14 months and reached 3 pl8 in 8-10 months.

I agree with >>42356661 You guys lift in commercial gyms where people are generally weaker and aren't serious about their liftan.

>>42356698
For serious lifter yeah, 1234 is kinda a begginers milestone. But next to no one outside of PLs are serious lifters, so it's kinda stupid to judge everyone by that standard

>>42356751
So you are just saying that you have population bias in your gym. People with more dedication, better genetics, better access to knowledge...

Then why the fuck do you claim that ANYONE should be able to do it?

>>42356822
If you come on fit you shouldn't be comparing yourself to people that literally believe in herbalife and 30 reps with pink dumbbells for bringing out muscle toning.

I claim anyone can do it because me if a fat piece of shit that never touched sports in his life, wasted 6 years of his life playing WoW can do it whilst on a cut then so can you.

>>42350805
your 1RM for squat should be 2pl8 from when you start lifting in 3 months max so i dont see why this is weird

>>42356894
That is just straight up wrong. How can you know the limitations of other people? How can you be so sure that you are within "normal range of genetics"?

>>42356712
I weigh 115kg.

>>42356935
I have normal test (checked), I'm a manlet, entire family is sedentry manlets, I am as average as can be.

Because I helped people from work do it, I tell you one thing I suppose I have over majority of people, autism, I literally obsess over things outside of this year (horrible medical job) I have missed something like 4-6 workouts in the last years of lifting.

I guarantee if you speak to the average gym goer he will have 0 clue on how to make gains and will most likely be still doing brosplits.

>>42356935
You are just putting limits on your capabilities based on what you can currently lift. Don't.

>>42350805
Guess what...you're the DYEL

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>>42350805
not everyone who is big is strong, and not everyone who is strong is big

1 rep 3pl8 squat IS DYEL.

>>42350805
Because big muscles doesn't automatically equal strength and some people actually care more about being strong than looking strong

>>42357086
if your weight is 70 kg or less is decent

>>42351663
>>42351663
sure you did, sure you do
>leemao if you dont squat (X) pl8 in 6 months ur a failure
>leemao if you dont squat (X=X+1) pl8 in 6 months ur a failure
yawn

>>42354714
Have you looked at any Olympic weightlifting or gymnastics event?

>>42350893

Not for a bro.

>>42350805
You're just a loser OP you always will be. Kys now you faggot

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>>42352909
>>42351750
>not setting foot into the gym for the first time in your life and instantly repping 2pl8
pff, laughing at your inferior genetics and programming

I'm pretty lanky 175lbs at 6ft and I can squat 3pl8 and front squat 2,5pl8.

I can only bench 187lbs and deadlift 286lbs though. But I don't train those lifts. Recently started again because I want to get to 2pl8 bench by the end of august and I need to work on my pulling strength as well.

>>42354761
>Everybody is similar and responds in a similar way to training.

>be 352 lbs fatass at 6'1
>normal weight is 189 lbs
>do a squat with only the bar
>already squat 208 lbs for reps
wow that was hard.

I think I just have a bad CNS, if I put 2 pl8s over my back I start shacking like I'm going to have a seizure.

>>42357346
I started doing solid 2pl8 reps after I did shitty 110kg reps

>>42356620
>>42356645
My personal bests are 455 squat, 275 bench (lmao), and 585 deadlift, all weighing around 193.

I understand that 1/2/3/4 feels like a lot when you're doing it for the first time. I also understand that most people never do it. However, that's purely because nobody actually tries and sticks with a barbell training program for a long time. It's like any other skill or talent. 2/3/4 shows you've lifted a bit. It's not a big deal for an average sized male. People have talked it up so much that beginners have mistaken it for some sort of big achievement that takes years of dedicated training to reach. It has only set low expectations for people that could do better if they actually tried.

>>42357385
https://youtu.be/I-pAoY5-Y30

Forgot muh link.

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>>42355262
>this is ATG for "lmao3pl8 in less than 6 months" fags
pottery

>>42357385
that deadlift would be a national record in my country though

>>42357455
Your country sucks shit then. There are dudes pulling over 700, nearly 800 lbs at 181. Woolam pulled 881 at 198 this year. 6 plate is a good deadlift. It's not elite, not at my weight anyhow.

>>42356751
>I did sports before and lifted before "starting liftin" and reached 2345 in sub 6 months lelling at your inferior genetics and dedication
good job, if you're not lying about the time frame, and 90/100 you are, you were gifted genetically, lucky with your progress and did sports before starting lifting
brag about it

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>>42357385

Utter bullshit you speak

>>42357517
Which part?

>>42357494
it does suck but a natural deadlifting more than 600 pounds it is a rare occurence

>>42357507
Never played sports in my life.
I never said I reached 2/3/4/5 in 6 months bro it took me 2 years to hit 4pl8 squat.

>>42357565
>what is exagerration and irony

>>42357584
Whatever dude I'm outta here this place has been overtaken by pessimistic r9kers stick to 2pl8 for 10 years or something.

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>>42350805
JUST FALLO THE DAM PROGRAM AND DRINK YER MILK

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>>42357385
>However, that's purely because nobody actually tries and sticks with a barbell training program for a long time.
that's some nice bullshit you got there
let's see, how much it took you to get to 1234 for 5 reps? did you do sports before? how's your bone and body structure?

>It's like any other skill or talent.
so 80% genetic and environmental?

>People have talked it up so much that beginners have mistaken it for some sort of big achievement that takes years of dedicated training to reach. It has only set low expectations for people that could do better if they actually tried.
the ol' "I made it so if you didn't you didnt try hard enough meme...a tip, dont read what survivorship bias is, it might shatter some beliefs

oh wait >>42357422
>rounds back from 315 onward
>half asses lockout literally on every rep
>counting that 585 as a rep
like clockwork

>>42357619
see ya in the next "muh 1234 in sub6 months" friend

>>42357540

1/2/3/4 being no big deal that almost anybody can do without years of training. Maybe if you have had a backgound in athletics/sport from school/college. Otherwise you think some dyel bar squatter is going to achieve 1/2/3/4 with years of dedicated and intense training? Utter shit, a meme like everyone on /fit/ being 6'5"/250lb/8%bf. There are young guys whose expectations are fucked up by the drivel of /fit/. Hopefully they're smart enough to elsewhere for actual advice.

>>42357700

>with years of

without, not with

>>42356060
How do you get this good at benching? That's insane

>>42354655
That's entirely true, but I think what the other anon was getting at is that most of /fit/ don't go to black iron gyms. Most of us are in commercial or uni gyms

>>42354655
2% of /fit/ goes to a black iron gym faggot
again with the faulty statistical analogies

>>42355981
The main issue is getting the form down, mate. I was squatting 135 ATG for 5+ reps when I first started squatting. I also had an athletic background. Rippetoe is probably talking about teens that have never lifted before in their life

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It's embarassing and i wouldn't admit it in public, but I'm approaching 6 years of training and I haven't achieved 1/2/3/4 yet. I've done SL/Madcow/Texas Method and other bs. Don't worry /fit/ you'll always be stronger than me. While i'm not strong by any standards I have gained 15kg bodyweight since I started and i'm slowly making progress. I'll take any progress I can get at this point. I've gone through months of microloading, stalling, deloading. I just don't seem to be anywhere close compared to others.

>A-anyone else...?

>>42357944
Don't worry dude fit is now a safe zone as >>42357700
Shows, 6 years not hitting 1/2/3/4 you Just didn't have the genetics for it

>>42357944
Age, height, bodyweight?

>>42357831
So you haven't seen the rugby team or football team put up big numbers what kinda shitty ass uni gyms are these.

Commercial gyms are a joke honestly and should not be taken as a standard for anything especially since most average gym goer goes once every ten days .

>>42358016
24y, 171cm, 75kg

I have had some random bodybuilding routines mixed in there, but I still don't think that should've mattered in the long run.

>>42358089
Put more weight on. Also get your test checked if you have sleep and diet in place (not a retarded vegan) your lifts should be higher even at that weight for the time period.

>>42357999
ah, the strawman, the last resort of the intellectually clueless

>>42358254
Shouldn't you end yourself for being a self proclaimed genetic dead end?

>>42355262
clarence stats are all world class baka

>>42350805
I'm pretty DYEL and 2pl8 squat and 3pl8 deadlift

>>42357944
Almost 3 years here and the same, I don't do squats (bad knees) or deadlifts anyway.

>>42351592
No. Mass =/= strength.

CNS efficacy/efficiency and type of muscle fiber go a long way, along with density/ratio of nucleus-fibers

Size helps but is absolutely not necessary. Most big guys at my gym train BB style exclusively while Id say I'm maybe 60/40 aesthetics/size vs strength and i am considerably stronger than most of them, for low or high reps

Eddie hall has significantly less muscle mass than Phil heath but can probably double if not triple most of his lifts.

>>42351625
>girls doing 225 for reps
>I see this all the time

No wonder self esteem is at an all time low with bullshit like this

I've never seen a girl even do 180lbs for reps or 225 for a single and I've been in gyms for 5 years.

Also probably 1/50 guys at your average gym can do 225lb squat for more than a couple reps.

Not saying 225lb squat for reps is strong or impressive but it is absolutely not common among your average lifters

>>42358519
>2pl8 squat for reps is considered strong now

Man i usually try to be helpful and understanding but people like you are really dragging lifting down

Itt: e statting makes me feel gud

I just don't understand

>>42358535
And I literally said

>Not saying 225lb squat for reps is impressive or strong

English motherfucker, can you read it?

Jesus Christ kid you have to be 18 to post

>>42358519
If you can't even do 2pl8 for reps can you even be called an average lifter ? Do people call themselves runners if they go a lap around the block and run out of steam? I

>>42358602
News flash: your average gym-goer/lifter is pretty darn weak

I regularly get "holy shit bro" type comments for a 335 deadliftx5 or a 275 benchx3. This is the world we live in. Normie standards for strength are highly skewed by complacency and inexperience

>>42357667
My bone structure is shit. 6.2" wrists, thin frame, weighed 135 at 5' 11" graduating high school, just a skinny cunt that read fiction and didn't eat.
>everything that isn't le perfect natty form doesn't count!
Maybe you should deadlift more weight, then you wouldn't be on 4Chan calling everybody stronger than you an "e-statter".

>>42358602
Not him, but thats a very good point. i think 1/2/3/4 should be the criteria to call yourself a lifter.

>>42358536
>I am weaker than a washed out injured fat 60 years old texan and proud of it
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108469031
I just don't understand

>>42351686
20kg is empty bar

>>42351229
I don't understand the hype about this. Friend of mine weighs 160, trains for hypertrophy, ignored legs for majority of his time training and he back squats 405 for reps

>>42358089
25yo,170cm,73kg here.

Really, make sure your diet is on point. Don't worry about overloading on calories, and going for really heavy 3 rep sets. What pushed my Ohp to 80 was not having a squat rack when I was starting out and having to clean the weight and Ohp every other day. That said, try to damage the muscles by working closer to your max. Eat and sleep a lot, take an extra rest day if necessary. Good luck!

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>>42358778
>170cm

>>42350805
Woah, it's almost as if... 3 plates for 1 rep is in no way impressive

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>tfw 5'8" 160lbs
>never lifted in my life, only do cardio and soccer
>squat 2pl8 by second workout
You fags need to git gud

It's almost as if strength doesn't equal size

It's almost as if people who want to look big shouldn't do strength based routines

>>42358855
3pl8 isn't impressive. It is just not obtainable(as a working weight) in 6 months. Maybe a few very genetically gifted kids with full time training/coaching can. As for everyone else it will be around a year or more

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>>42358987

need video evidence for depth.
demonstrated a back squat for a qt at work who said she had been going to P/F for about a month.

"You have to go that far down ?!"

>I was just going to parallel, not ATG.
>and in your universe, this means ???

>6'5
>one month in and at 3pl8 +25
3pl8 is impressive??? LOL

>>42359010
Zach did it in like 4 months. Or is he genetically gifted too? It feels like you're not genetically gifted... until you are. "Genetically gifted" is the weak man's final deflection. You can easily discount any achievement that is the least bit impressive just by claiming, "yeah, well he's a genetic freak!" It's no different than fat chicks bitching about skinny girls having a "fast metabolism" or "lower set point".

>>42359093

fatty lmao

>>42359093
It doesn't count as much when you weigh 600lbs, you heifer.

lmao at this thread
>I'm weak therefore everyone else is week

if you follow SS you're supposed to have 3pl8 for reps in 4 months, might not be achievable for everyone but it is for a lot of people

>>42359295
3 plates for reps in 4 months is achievable for probably 5% or less of healthy, relatively active men aged 18-30. Not even considering women and older men.

Get outside and off the internet. Real life is different than the world of e-statting

>>42359591
I currently lift in an oly gym with some good trainers, and I have seen literally zero people that couldn't squat three plates after 4 months, and there's been at least 30 new people here with zero training experience

>>42359628
>Oly gym

Do yourself a favour and get a day pass to a commercial gym, it'll open your eyes to the abilities of the average gymgoer.

>>42359628

I weighed 130lbs and squatted 70lbs the first time I set foot in a gym, even if I gained 10lb a month for my first 4 months I'd still be squatting nearly 2x bodyweight if I had hit a 3pl8 squat.

If you think it's possible to put 245lbs on your squat in 4 months while still learning form etc you're retarded.

>>42359789
I go to a commercial gym on the days my oly gym is closed, so I know what the average gymgoer looks like
the average gym goer does le bro split he saw in a magazine, which only has legs once a week, but he usually skips leg day anyways
even if he does do legs it'll mostly be some meme exercises and if he actually does squat it'll be with form so bad it would be an insult to call it a squat
why even bother comparing yourself to those people?

>>42350805

315 squat isn't impressive from anybody of any size. 120lb girls squat more than that.

>>42359833
yeah obviously if you weigh 130lbs you probably won't squat 3 plates after 4 months, my apologies

>>42359279
Doubt it. Honestly. I see so much e stating and no videos of shit. Everyone here show me your 5x5 or 1x5 at 315 lbs. Without being a fat peice of shit and within 6 months of ever touching a weight. Also not roided.

>>42359870
No worries, up to 155 now doing 225 5x5. 315 1rm before end of the year hopefully.

>>42350805
I'm 138lb and I squat two plates for reps.

>>42350805
Those people are usually life long athletes; their body are extremely well adapted for activity. They pretty much "trained from child".

It's why it's so important for parents to incorporate sports asap into their kid's daily schedule. The gains you get from it is completely out of this world.

>>42351592
lmfao at your dumb new ass. you should look up frank yangs first videos, also if anybody can jump in and correct me i think its pyrros dimas whos a greek olympic weightlifter and looks dyel as fuck.

>>42350805
315 1RM is the epitome of dyel though
2pl8 squat is fairly impressive for a dyel

I can rep out a set of 2pl8 squats for 3 or 4 if I expect to not walk for the next week.

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>>42356045

>tfw im on my way to this

IVE BEEN EATING SO FUCKING MUCH

IM FULL ALL THE TIME

I SHIT 4X/DAY

AND IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGHHHHHHAAGGGGHHHRHEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY IS IT SO HARD TO EAT A LOT

>>42361197
dyel lol

>>42359010
I got to 315x5within 3 months of first time ever doing DLs, with no coaching and part time training. Though I did work in construction and am already athletic.

>>42361239
Yes, my point was that I find 2pl8 impressive.

>>42361086
he doesnt look dyel

>>42351230
a big heart

>>42352829
dyel

>>42351750
hah bro what are you a pussy? 315? If you aren't breaking records in 3 months why even lift?

>>42355298
deadlifts is a meme lift bud

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>>42356620
Pic related is my 445 diddly. See the response for my most recent marathon

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>>42361545
Marathon. You don't have to be a powerlifter to put up a 4 plate deadlift

>>42353219
1/2/3/4 puts you in at least intermediate range at nearly any bodyweight. It's a goal achievable in around a year, give or take; hence a beginner goal.

>>42351592
I am DYEL and squat 225
Explain that

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>>42361545
Stop using mixed grip.

>>42361634
that explains itself LMAO

>>42351592
>t. person who has never walked inside a gym irl

>>42350805

I went from 120lbs - 185lbs 15% in 8 years. is this respectful / good?

now I'm improving my strength. making lots of gains. and not giving a shit

>>42361238
You've off to a good start bro

>>42351262
Maybe if you are a fat fuck yes.

>perfect form
There's your answer right there

>>42356712
is the chart counting the bar ?

>>42350921
Lol. I'm a DYEL recently vegan, weighted dip +1bw and squat 3.25 plate (double bw)

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I squatted 3 plate for 3x5 after 5 months of SS
It's absolutely possible

But you lot are convinced it's a meme
Well, for a meme it gave me some insane progress you know, maybe I'll just keep doing that meme because it seems to get me closer, faster to where I want to be

>>42351654
>back squad
>knee pain
well of course
you did it wrong

>>42351613
>In about 6 months I was doing sets of 5 reps with 120 kg which translates to about 140 kg 1RM. That's +70 kg in 26 weeks, which means +2,69 kg every week. That's not even impressive.
That is impressive, actually. That's a years work in 6 months.

>>42351592
I thought you were talking about benching 225 for a minute
Biggs I warm up with a set of 5 at 225

>>42351610
People who train with a strength program see more strength gains but less visible gains than people who train for size

>>42361238
nice trailer park genes. meth/10

>>42351395
This all this faggots in this thread havent even come close to 120 kg squat and start e-padding.
It took me 2,5 years to do 130 kg 3x8 192cm 95 kilos

>>42353479
>1 year equals 100 kg of difference in streangth
suuuurreeeee....

>>42362819

thx bro that actually means a lot

>>42366459

>trailer park genes

ctfu fr fr