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>IPF world record is below 400kg
lmao
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>>42349697
I've stalled once and for all on Greyskull LP.

Going to do some volume/muscle building training for a period of time.

Is it a good idea to use the same Greyskull workouts, just chance the set and rep scheme?
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>>42349697
dude, most people have trouble with 40 kg
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Things you wish you knew before your first meet.
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>>42350050
>I need to do all 3 lifts?!?
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>>42350050
how to not embarrass myself
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My delts are absolutely wrecked and my body is fucked. I think I confused my muscles.
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hook gripped 4 plate

My thumbs were in serious pain
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>>42349697
>tfw you fail w3d1 AGAIN

starting to think I might be a gde lads
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>>42345859

>I empathize with Oly lifters criticism because that shit has less retarded judging and it's really fucking obvious if there's a no lift.

Except for press out calls. They are a crapshoot. The C&J that won Sarah Robles a bronze before the manatee failed a drug test was pressed out every bit as much as the one by the Iranian that got changed to redlights on review.
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>>42350401
This, so many bullshit press-out calls both ways.
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okay so this mornings Norman khan is smellier than last nights Norman khan..

Looks like this Norman khan wasn't ready to swim to India yet.. It just didn't wanna leave and put up a fight

Oh well back to India you go..
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>>42350285
i never understood how people are so incompetent when it comes to hookgrip

if you get pain then youre not hookgripping properly or you have a bar that does not rotate but then you have a really shit bar
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>>42350599
Or it's been less than 2 months since he started training it, you autistic elitist
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>>42350630
so youre basicly saying hes doing it wrong, I agree
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>>42350640
No, I'm saying his skin and bones aren't accustomed which makes it painful even if he grips with perfect form
Tldr post body
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>>42350378
No need to think. You are anon :^))))
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>>42350692
>even if he grips with perfect form
nope
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>>42350599

It's a rogue power bar so it does spin
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>>42350761
I've hook gripped for several months and pulled 5 hundos with it. Still hurts.
No biggie.
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>>42350785
hook may hurt a little but its nothing out of this world

hook a bar that doesnt spin with heavy weight and you'll redefine what pain is
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Nuckols 3x int bench - thoughts?

Also, how much cardio/conditioning do you do?
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@trappychan_
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>>42350826
see >>42350378

it makes me feel bad about myself, therefor its bad. I run a couple of times a week, havent been consistent lately tho because of my new job :(

>>42350744
come to my ends and ill bang you out f a m
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>>42350826
Nuckols is good

I run 3 mornings per week and skip rope 3 other mornings. 1 day with no cardio.
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>ywn bench 5plate ezpz raw
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>>42351162
How heavy his bod?
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>>42351254

105 kg.
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>>42351162
tfw cant even squat this

kill me
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>>42350378
>>42351069
I somehow failed week 2 day 1 but week 3 day 1 felt ez :/

any way to minimise slight soreness in lateral and rear delt? have to binch today
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>>42350378
I've only been on the program for 5 weeks and have done that day once accordingly, but holy fucking crapola, it's an absolute bastard.

Is ANYONE capable of moving those intensities for those reps, without underestimating 1RM or taking 10 minute rests?
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>>42350378
>>42351340

wut program
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also can someone tell me what fucking gde stands for
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>>42351346
nuckols bench int
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>>42351347
Genetic dead end
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>>42351347
>German Defense Entourage
They have a reputation of being ineffective, so when people say gde, it has negative connotations.
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>>42351369
I wasn't actually expecting a serious response you fag haha !

Thank you
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>>42351387
No you're a fag
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>>42351500
:3
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>>42349697
People on /fit/ toss around 1/2/3/4pl8 as when someone becomes a moderately respectable lifter, but what I'm curious about is what's a healthy ratio?
Should you really have a 90lb gap between your squat and deadlift? Or bench and OHP? What's a balanced physique in terms of the big 4?
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>>42351596
1/2/3/4 is actually kinda balanced. OHP is maybe low by 20lbs and you can add 20lbs to squat and take them off deadlift or just add 40lbs to squat in general. In reality everyone is pretty different.
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>>42351596
squat/deadlift would depend on build, the ratio could be anywhere from 0.9 to 2

bench/ohp should be proportional, since its basic shoulder flexion but different angle.
Terrible ohp:bench would be ~60%, if you have this ratio you probally rarely ohp
decent would be 70-80%
great would be +80%, you probally ohp more frequently than you bench here
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>>42351628
Technically we're in /plg/ so training OHP more than the competition lift it's supposed to assist is much worse than choosing not to train OHP at all.
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Who is Sean and why does he do what he does? How long has he been doing it?
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It's okay

I didn't want to bench much anyways ;_;
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>>42351649
Sean is a Canadian man
He trolls sp and plg because he literally hasn't got ANYTHING else to do
He has been doing it for 10 years now no joke
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>>42350050
your not gonna win. Treat it as a learning experience
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>>42351626
>>42351628
Makes sense. I was trying to figure out what I need to do to bring my numbers into balance. Currently my bench is way outpacing everything else (and I need to up my ohp), due to a long recovery from knee injury, I've only just sorted out my squat form, thanks in large part to some videos linked by /plg/
>back squat: 225 x 6
>front squat 155 x 5
>deadlifts 305 x 6
>bench 205 x6
>incline bench 155 x 6
>seated military 125 x 6
Obviously my quads are extremely weak, I'm incline benching my front squat numbers.
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>>42351162
Shits fake bar didnt bend
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>>42351765
Wide grip buddy.
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>>42351793
Doesnt matter
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>>42351758
front squat should be 85-90% of your back squat ideally if its less yeah you have a quad imbalance
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>>42351765

Fil lifts that shit in competition bro. How new are you?
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>>42351801
Yes it does. Half the lever length is like a quarter of the weight. The middle part of the bar isn't holding any weight.
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>>42351813
Is the best way to fix that just to front squat more? Or hit leg press and leg extensions
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>>42351842
Start by front squatting more, then think about adding other shit.
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>>42351842
you can still cheat in the front squat so unless you have godtier body awareness I would say leg press more
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>>42351626
rather 10 lbs on OHP, 65 kg OHP to 100 kg bench is probably the most proportional and a common ratio for someone that trains both
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>>42351162

Is his butt actually on the bench though?

I had a decent Bench session yesterday

Warm up to 275lbs x 1
260 x 8
260 x 9 (felt good so I did another)
225 x 12

Wanted to go for 15 with 2plates but was a little tired by then. Taking a break from heavy sets with some moderate weight. Really fun repping stuff out lately. Aiming to go for 350x1 soon. Wanna get 305x5 first, so I have some work to do.
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>>42351628
>70-80%
nowhere close. terrible ratio is more like 50% of bench and good 70%, usual ratio is 60-65 for someone that does both. If your OHP is 70-80 of bench something is off, either push press or bad bench
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>>42351847
>>42351849
I already have leg press in my routine but I'll devote more time to both. I'm sick of having poverty squats. Thanks lads
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>>42351849
>you can still cheat in the front squat
¿Que?
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>>42351813
>front squat should be 85-90% of your back squat

That's true for weightlifters who front squat a ton and squat highbar, for an average gym rat or powerlifter, 80% is probably more than high enough.
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>>42351628
>>42351628
>OHP 70-80% of bench


saying this while the closest thing to a raw strict press WR (without olympic bend) we have is less than 200 kg and bench 330 kg. Do you even lift lad? Or maybe you meant push press, in which case the ratio is correct, push press is usually 0.8-0.9 of what you can bench

I know this is /plg/ and you want to imagine that you can press much more than those stupid strongmen and oly lifters but don't kid yourself man
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>>42349697
if my routine is ABxABxx (where A=Push+Legs and B=Pull) and I skipped yesterday's A workout, would it be better to do Fullbody today or to just rest 1 day less in the weekend and do xABxABx (where I basically push my schedule 1 day later)?
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>>42351880
and to bring up an example of a well rounded stronk guy, Brian Alsruhe:

Strict press 315 PR
Push press 405 PR
Bench press 505 PR

ratios:
>Strict press (what we call OHP on /fit/) to Bench press 0.62
>Push press to Bench press 0.8
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>>42351990
and that's for a strongman, who does tons of overhead work, meaning he's a strong presser. Someone with pure PL background that can bench ~200 kg will be closer to a 100 kg strict press, see e.g. Romano Rengel
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>>42351990
>Brian Alsruhe:
>Strict press 315 PR
>Push press 405 PR
>Bench press 505 PR
HOLY SHIT
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>>42351976
Or just call it an extra rest day and get right back into your training?
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when is this shit going to the olympics?
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>>42351964
>saying this while the closest thing to a raw strict press WR
since the majority of people who train train the bench press way more frequently than the ohp whatever WR there will be skewed

and youre wrong about the 200kg eddie hall did a 216kg axle press
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>>42351849
>you can still cheat in the front squat
don't think so man
lean too far forward and the far falls off your delts
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>>42352057
that's not a strict press though, it involves a bit of olympic technique. And that's fully valid as there is not a guideline in the axle press, if he wanted he could exaggerate it towards the ~230 kg olympic press record as they did in the 1960's


and no, strongmen do more overhead work so it's not skewed at all when you compare the two at elite levels. I'm considering my powerlifting buddies and 70-80% is total bullshit unless he meant Push press lad. Strict press - Bench press, they are under 0.6 and closer to 0.5-0.55, partially because they don't train it as much. Someone that trains both equally will be around 0.6-0.65 (like brian alsruhe), and 0.7-0.75 (at most) is reserved for someone (maybe an olylifter) that doesn't bench at all.
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>>42352051
>Expecting powerlifting to join when normies buy tickets to see beach volley, ping pong, badminton, sharpshooting, archery and fucking CURLING
Short answer: no
Long answer: why do you care?
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>>42351990
very bad reasoning

show me a guy who does the ohp as frequently as the bench, you'll find very little examples out there

one example is klokov, strict presses 162kg and benches 170kg for 3 here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRBKMnDPucM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx1ytBh6kgU
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>>42352024
do you mean to just do my Push+Legs today and continue or to rest until Thursday and continue?
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>>42352115
that's rather an example for someone that doesn't bench at all.

And brian alsruhe is quite a good example for someone who does both equally, though as a strongman it might be skewed towards the overhead work. And his ratio is still "only" 0.62.

Thinking you can press 0.7-0.8 of what you bench is wishful thinking, if you're not doing much strict presses at all from a PL background you can be happy if you hit 0.5 the first time and work up from there.
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>>42352121
Just do your A day and get back into the cycle. Or jump on a real program with built-in progression.
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>>42352115
>show me a guy who does the ohp as frequently as the bench
>one example is klokov, who is a professional weightlifter and obviously ohps more than he benches
Ha ha ha :^)
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>>42352107
I am tired of telling people I do weighlifting because they dont know what the fuck powerlifting is.
Also raw IPF worlds are 10 times a better sport than many of the shit they already have
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>>42352159
>I am tired of telling people I do weighlifting because they dont know what the fuck powerlifting is.
I do the same. Who cares? Don't be an autist
>Also raw IPF worlds are 10 times a better sport than many of the shit they already have
Yes, that was exactly my point. It doesn't matter how much "better" a sport is, it matters how much it sells. Powerlifting doesn't sell. As you said, normies don't even know it, so they don't care to buy tickets
Simple
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i have an ohp 1rm or 200lbs but a bench of 170
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>>42352225
170 kg that is
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>>42352235
>>42352225
>My height is 5 foot and 35 cm
Why?
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>>42352205
you say this now but you would get so wet if that ever happens.
Suddenly all this "I don care bro" would transform in "cant wait to see the olympics lads im cumming".
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>>42352150
the sample size is very little so that guy isnt an prime example

>>42352158
contrary to common knowledge weightlifters dont actually practice the overhead press PL'ers probally do it more. They do push presses instead which has way more carryover
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>>42352292
Klokov is known for his strict press as opposed to e.g. torokthiy. Push press has a good carryover to strict press, and high loads on jerk stabilization translate to good delt development too.

60% of bench is a more accurate ratio than 80% on just about any dataset, including e.g. the strength standard polling
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>>42352292

Disclaimer: I don't do oly and I'm just interested in learning about it.

Wouldn't you expect to get better returns from pressing over head? Push pressing seems less useful than a partial rack Press from the forehead if lockout strength is your goal. I get that the push adds an explosive factor similar to the jerk but I think pressing and partial pressing would give more benefit. Or are you only aiming to get accustomed to using leg drive to get the weight to lockout?
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>>42352353
push press teaches leg drive utilization (and moreover its control) as well
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>>42352292
I didn't say weightlifters press often, I said they press more often than they bench
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Do my bench set like usual, do my fahves. The last rep is a bit of a grinder, but has steady pace and only insignificant form breakdown. Guy at the other side of the room racks his squat and rushes over to help me. I have to yeall "don't touch it" as he flies through the air to take my barbell from me.

It's not like even if I was failing the rep I would die.. Fuck my lads, some people..
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how many national records would you have in my country?
http://www.powerlifting.com.ar/Falpo%20Raw%20power%20men.pdf
lmao
one day Im gonna bulk to 120kg and have my name there
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>>42352532
That's because people in the 3rd world don't have enough money to be fat. Those who do are too busy working to lift.
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>>42349701
Try moving on to 3x10 then 8s and 6 and then 5s again.
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woah
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>>42352555
I plan on eating the shittiest and cheapest rice and oats I can find.
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>>42350050
Cutting weight is retarded
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>>42350285
This >>42350599
I learned how to properly hook grip in two weeks, now I get no pain on singles and the only time I get legit pain is when I use it for rep work (wouldn't reccomend.)
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Pancakes for dinner, lots of sugar no idea about the calories. Just kill me lads.
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>>42352353
>Push pressing seems less useful than a partial rack Press
sorry but youre clueless

all weightlifters do push press very frequently, it is very similiar to the jerk. OHP isnt that common amongst weightlifters some just might do it occasionally to increase shoulder mass
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>>42353220

I said more useful for increasing lockout strength. You can't tell me heavy partials from the forehead at a dead stop don't increase lockout more than a dynamic movement that is 90% leg drive.
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>>42349697

>'powerlifter' gets fatter
>wilks goes down
>lifts go down
>decides that to get stronger, need to be fatter

What a great 'sport' for delusional people.
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>>42353339
>You can't tell me heavy partials from the forehead at a dead stop don't increase lockout more than a dynamic movement that is 90% leg drive.
Well buddy I dont think I have ever seen a weightlifter of any status do what you described here

besides doing partials to increase lockout strength(while raw) is a heavily debated subject anyway. Some say doing full rom with less weight provides the same benefit
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>>42353409
>I, and my coach
I guess its that easy to be a coach nowadays
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>>42352863

>I learned how to properly hook grip in two weeks, now I get no pain on singles and the only time I get legit pain is when I use it for rep work (wouldn't reccomend.)

How to hook grip correctly?

Should the pressure be on the fleshy part of your thumb instead of the bone
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>>42353409
>below 300 wilks
>has a coach
Fucking roasties
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>>42353473
https://youtu.be/FVctFJPYlaA
Watch that video, Bryce krawdad shows how to do it pretty well.
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>>42353478
>>42353433

question is how long is she working out

inb4 laughing at her and her coach when she lifts from 6 months to 1 year
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>>42353615

nevermind, srolled her ig to 2013 and got bored

holy shit 4 years for 280lbs pull
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>go to PT for knee
>find out I have a giant knot in my quad probably from a strain
>get VMO massaged
>get EMS machine hooked up to quad
>get kino tape over VMO

this is redpilled as fuck why did I not do this before
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>>42353738
what's your height?
I'm 177 and this old wl guy told me to cut down to 83kg the absolute madman
thot people around my height are 94s
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>>42352401
THIS!!!!

And you can't be rude about it because they are just trying to help. But the very second even a modicum of struggle comes into play, they want to deadlift it off of you.

Reeeeeeeeee
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>>42353677
>280lbs
? it's kg
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>>42352401
>>42353884
realisticly the difference between that and a guy helping you last second in terms of muscle stimulus is probally neglible

I'll rather have a guy save me early than very late. Basicly you should be thankful you autistic fuk
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>>42353957

what are those plates made of than? neber saw 130kg plates
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>>42353957
women can pull 280 kgs?
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>Haven't been doing anything risky or unusual
>Twinge of discomfort in lower back when standing up and doing similar things
>Its been there for a few days now

GUYS IM GETTING SPOOKED
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>>42353957
>>42354009
>>42354009

It's pounds.
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>>42353738
is rebekah still you're waifu??
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How do you feel about powerlifting posers?
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>been to the gym
>bench PR
>now at home laying on the sofa playing cod MW remastered
>ordered pizza
>favourite streamer is streaming tonight

>depressed for some reason
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>>42354533
when was the last time you got laid?
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>>42354610
like if owned
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Why the fuck is my forarm tendon cramping after the gym

It keeps tensing by itself
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>>42354694
I dont understand your language
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I have a crush on my ex's best friend lads what should I do?
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>>42354834
try to fuck her
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>>42354834
Nothing, they'll (nearly) never go for you.

That said, if you can, do it.
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>>42354877
>>42354884
I'll try boys
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>>42354031
Stretch your hips you fucking guy
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>>42350050
that weigh ins needn't be nude
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>>42353973
This was volume weight so if I had failed I'd just roll it off me like I have done many many times. If it was a dangerously heavy weight I would have asked for him to be ready. I appreciate the thought, absolutely, but it wasn't very heavy, it was 90kg and I have bailed from much higher weight alone and the bar never stopped, it just moved slowly.

>>42353884
Right? If I wanted help I would have asked, I'm not shy.
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>>42355401
>Not being so precise in your cut to comp weight that even your singlet would put you over
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>>42355637
>not having to shave all body hair and excessively trim your nails to pass
wew
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>>42355502
It's annoying but you need to understand they're coming from a good place. People fucking up your bench is the worst, either boofing the liftoff, "spotting" with their hands constantly on the bar helping, saving you from a lift you don't need to be saved from, but once you've seen a few bench casualties the sight of someone struggling with a rep sets off those Vietnam helicopters in your brain and you feel compelled to help.
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>>42355637
>tfw weighed in at 104.9kg and 105.5kg for my meets and 93.2kg for my post-momentum skills test
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>>42355401
They made fun of me for not weighing in nude even when I'm 99kg
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>>42355691
I guess, I just think people should be more careful and judge better. Maybe if he poised himself to be ready instead of running over and grabbing it. I often keep an eye when I see someone struggling, but I don't show that I am ready to help so I don't throw them off.
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>>42353868
173cm

Im bulking to 94
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If I've been doing seated military instead of OHP have i been cheating myself out of gains?
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>>42354834
ask your buddy if he's alright with it first
and even if he's cool, you shouldn't do it
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>>42356823
boring
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>>42356831
loyal
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>>42356823
It's not his buddy's ex, it is his ex girlfriend's friend
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>>42356891
any healthy male should try to fuck their girlfriend's friend if she is remotely hot.
dont they teach you this in high school?
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>>42356920
No, they don't. But I agree. There is less chance it will happen than if you went for a different woman though.
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>>42356517
Less functional since you miss out on core stability. But being athletic doesn't have much to do with powerlifting
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>>42356920
>any healthy male should try to fuck their girlfriend's friend if she is remotely hot.
This also applies to your friends relatives. You should be able to fuck your friend's sister right in her uncanny little butthole and if he's a good friend he'll forgive you in time
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>>42357235
I would take offense if a friend of mine didnt try to fuck my sister tbqh
thats what makes your friendship stronger
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>>42357235
No, a good friend wouldn't need to forgive you. Honestly, it's his sister and if he is your friend he thinks you are a good person so it is a good fit
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>>42357330
I would never fuck my friend's sister with his permission. That ruins the fun. What are you queer or something?

Not to mention that if she finds out that you asked his permission she's not going to want to fuck you as dirty
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>>42356920
>>42357235
>>42357308
>>42357330
>who's memeing who
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>>42357393
You don't ask permission, you just fuck her like she is a normal girl. If that is what happens it is what happens.
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>>42357400
you honestly never tried to fuck your friend's sister o your girlfriend's friend?never?
Are you gay?
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Which spastic thought octagonal plates are a good idea. Srs.
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This guy popped up in my facebook-feed as a sponsored post. Fuck lads, it's so cringe, but he is just trying to make himself a name and shit afterall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21byNlx_ASE
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>>42357473
Friends sister? Definitely not. Only a pos would do that and none of my friends would even consider it. If you honestly
Think that's ok you probably
Have no real
Friends.
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>>42357676
gay
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Any interesting instagram I should follow? Don't the tripfags have?
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>tfw I only had 2100kcal today
>tfw I can have a decent supper, a good 600kcal
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>>42357807
tfw I can't into counting calories but on the path to having an 8 pack
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>>42349697
>2 new stretch marks appeared on my lat
>I'm cutting very slowly and I already am 76kg~ at 178cm
>lifting weights for 14~ months
what the fuck
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>>42357746
you can follow me, I rarely upload shit tho and I'm weak
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>>42357958
If I don't count I stay at my weight. Lost 2kg in 3 months not counting.. Way too slow.
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>>42357530
Some head of a company that makes lifting equipment thats never lifted in his life
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>>42350050

You can eat more or else you're going to weigh in very light.
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>>42357618
He looks like one of aesthetics zyzz brah fags that would blow over from a strong wind.
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>>42358400
>t. 120kg """""""""athlete"""""""""
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>>42358400
He probably is too
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>tfw front delts are so sore I can't scratch my back
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>texas method
Can I shift the components around? Something like

monday
>volume squat
>light press
>heavy deads

wednesday
>heavy squat
>volume press

friday
>light squat
>heavy press

Or would doing that fuck everything up?
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>>42358512
You're a fucking retard. You can't do the 5rm 2 days after squatting yourself to the brink of death. That's just how it is. It is meant to take periodization and fit it into a week, instead of a month. You need it in the correct order.
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>>42358512
There's ways to play around with training different modalities on a DUP program but that ain't it. TM kind of demands that weekly structure.
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>>42349697
What do you think /plg/? I think she's got a dangerous arch there.
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>>42358618
Can I move deadlifts. Fuck deadlifting after volume squats sucks ads. Also my lower back has been fucked and instead of letting it heal I keep lifting now it hurts to bend over
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>>42358512
the volume on volume day is too hard to be able to do a heavy workout without a light session in between

dup style works but with less fatigue relatively per workout
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Is sumo a legitimate form of deadlifting even if you do not compete? I have never really looked into it much.

Are there benefits of sumo? Will my conventional also be stronger as it increases? Where to go about finding best instructions for technique for it?
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>>42349701
move to ppl as soon as you stall on greyskull. it's a beginner routine.
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>>42358958
>Is sumo a legitimate form of deadlifting even if you do not compete?
nope

the whole point of sumo is cutting out ROM, why would you cut out ROM if youre just trying to get stronk and add mass
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>>42358726
Majority of the curvature should be higher up the spine. Looks like the highest part of her torso is around her belly button. Looks painful 2bh
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>>42352789
fucking hell lmafo
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>>42357733
Friendless
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>>42358958
No, traditional is better in literally every way.

Except cheating, traditional is worse at cheating.
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>>42358958
There are only two reasons to pull sumo
1. Injury that doesn't allow you to pull conventional safely
2. You're a competitive power lifter
Anyone that says otherwise is wrong
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And what have you done to improve the well being of humanity?

>Picked a piece of metal up and set it back down 10,000 times.

This is why I hate self-righteous lifters. Their hobby does nothing to further society. It's purely about looking cool.
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>>42359242
I'm a nurse. I also deadlift and squat.
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>>42359229
You forgot reason 3:
Having such poor leverages for conventional that pulling sumo lets you pull more often and improve faster (safely).
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Tfw squat is inflated to 595 and sets are still moving fast
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>>42359229
>>42359340
Geez, he forget reason 4 too.

Reason 4: You're a massive, gaping pussy who has to cheat to get his lifts up.
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>>42359340
>Having such poor leverages for conventional
then you shouldnt lift anyway tb h, poor leverages for conv means that youre basicly a GDE
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>>42359352
300kg when? Until then never post again.
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>>42359270
That's cool. What bothers me is lifters who believe having big muscles makes them superior to everyone who doesn't have big muscles. If you build muscle purely for personal satisfaction, that's fine. Acting all high and mighty towards anyone skinny, fat, or otherwise less fit than you, that's what pisses me off.
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>>42359340
I disagree with this, even for someone with poor leverages conventional is going to build muscle and strength better.
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>>42359427
Same man it's why I can't stand fph threads, muh sekret lifting club
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>>42359427
>acting superior to those who are inferior to you is wrong

Liberal filth detected.
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>>42357676
>not wanting to be as close to your friends as possible without being a homo
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>>42359440
Not if sumo lets said individual do a sufficient amount of extra volume.
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>>42359466
No acting superior to those less physically fit to you is wrong. If you're actually a more productive human then get on your high horse. But if the only thing separating you from me is making a piece of metal go up and down, then take that attitude and shove it right up your clean shaven, fake tanned ass.
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>>42359427
you sound very dyel and insecure
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>>42359553
If you don't think physical fitness is important, then why the fuck are you here? Get the fuck out you fucking gaylord faggot fuck.

Anyone weaker than me is a fucking pathetic loser and will be ridiculed as such.

Anyone stronger gets the respect they deserve.

And you are most certainly weak. A weak little bitch, whining on the internet because you know you would never ever ever have the guts to tell one of us this to our face. Pussy.
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>>42359352
Done anything fun this summer? Touch any boobies?
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>>42359553
>productive human
Here's that meme again. Working your ass off so your boss can afford new yacht, yeah I'm superior to you.
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>>42359471
Maybe it depends on the hotness of the sister. All my friends have either ugly sisters or brothers so idk
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>>42359553
Physically weak people are often cowards, and they let you down.

Strength is strength.
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>>42359592
Mostly having friends over/going to parties on rest days and probably
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>>42359693
So you and your autistic friend sat in bed watching porn again?
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>>42359693
"Probably"
I'm pretty sure that's a yes or no question there unless you were groping a very fat man
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>>42359711
Nah he hasn't been over recently actually

>>42359712
I like to leave things open to interpretation
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>>42359573
I tell them all the time. So far not a damn one has broken my face. In fact, they respect me for not being intimidated. You're the one who wouldn't speak to me like this in person, because you know as well as I do, muscles don't win fights. The law wins fights. Here online we can act all badass, but irl we have to keep it civil if we want to stay out of jail.
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bench feels like shit until about halfway up from the chest, how 2 fix lads?
I suspect I'm not getting tight enough but I think I've arched to the extent of my flexibility and that didnt work out very well
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>>42359750
Oh is that so? That's some nice larping, bitch boy. Real nice.

You seem very, very sure that the law will protect you.

I wouldn't be so confident. Cops can only drive so fast :^).
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>>42359766
Bravo anon
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>>42359790
Doesn't matter. Unless you kill me and do a damn fine job of disposing the body, your bikini waxed ass is going to jail.

If you can even kill me, that is. I am indeed a skinny fucker, but us humans don't go down as easy irl as we do in the movies.
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>>42359860
Hypothetically speaking, all of that is very easy.

And I don't bodybuild, I train for strength. This is /plg/, idiot.

Humans actually go down MUCH more easily than in the movies. You would be surprised, hypothetically speaking.
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>>42359888
You can't take out 20 flunkies by yourself irl. It simply doesn't happen. But in the movies you can.

As for killing me, good luck. I am always surrounded by witnesses so covering your crime will be a challenge. I recommend bringing a gun, too. Without one of those you're a fool. You never know who's carrying, and muscles will do you no good against a bullet.
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>>42359986
Your larping is getting a little ridiculous, kiddo.

>You never know who's carrying.

I highly recommend taking your own advice and being less of an abrasive little shitbrain, it's liable to get you killed out in the world.
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>>42360007
Ditto.
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>>42358958

Sumo isn't a legitimate form of deadlifting even if you DO compete, and that's why powerlifting itself has all the legitimacy of the WWE or NBA. Just with about one ten-millionth the popularity.
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>>42359427

>Acting all high and mighty towards anyone skinny, fat, or otherwise less fit than you, that's what pisses me off.

.t Someone skinny, fat, and otherwise less /fit/ than most of /plg/
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>>42359766
nice, mind if i use this?
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>>42360241
Add frog to it.
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>>42349712
that's a bit of a stretch, my 4'11 90lbs flip mom did 60kg for 3 reps first time
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>>42351976
one missed workout is a drop in the bucket for a lifetime of lifting. don't make it a habit
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>>42360278
Why
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What's the best ELO song?
https://youtu.be/QP1rMsI0Pl4
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>>42360278
It's on there, fifth one from the bottom.
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>>42360558
why
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>>42360516
You don't contribute anything besides yourself and you're a boring homo cunt
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>>42360956
hey thats pretty mean!
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>>42359750

>You're the one who wouldn't speak to me like this in person, because you know as well as I do, muscles don't win fights. The law wins fights.

But, it's entirely legal to talk to you like he did.

>>42359766

Good work, you've blocked all of /plg/ except dogposting and FIGJAM.
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>>42360978
You must be a newcomer or something. You don't seem terribly annoying but tripfaggotry is still faggotry and so it must be filtered. Congratulations on your new spot at the bottom of the list, look for yourself next time I post it.
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Why are powerlifters fat and ugly?
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>>42360978

Haha, okay Raffy
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>>42361008
Because aesthetics are for cocksucking fairy faggots like you.
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>>42359766

>tfw people finally care enough to filter you.

Y-y-you too
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>>42361001
he's raffy aka trappy aka retarded brazillian hobbit. Really annoying trust me.
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>>42361024
>(((coping)))
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>>42361063
Believe you me, I know very well who 'trappy' is.

Way more than I want to know.
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>>42360176
What is actually the problem with sumo besides people getting pissed off at not benefiting from it? There's a weight on the floor and you lift it. It's a deadlift.
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>>42361142
One man lifts 700lbs off the floor and the weight travels 3ft to his waist.

Another man lifts 700lbs off the floor and the weight travels 3 inches to his waist.

Sumo lifters don't like doing work, because they're pussies.
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>>42361142
The 3 original lifts even the playing field.
Long arms gives bad bench and good DL.
Long torso gives bad deadlift and good squat.

My problem with sumo DL is that it reduces the handicap that a long torso has.
So people who are good at squat also become good at deadlift, and then they out total the short torso competition.
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>>42360891
>this desperate for recognition on an anonymous image-board
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>>42361142

>There's a weight on the floor and you lift it. It's a deadlift.

What if I use a dolly to lift it?
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my feet are fucking fucking burning and I don't know why, they're like all red and feel hot as fuck. I've tried rinsing them in cold water but it only helped for a few seconds. Why is this happening I can't sleep like this.
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>>42362051
Nigga go ask a doctor not a bunch of fags on a croatian mountain climbing board
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Is Chris Robinson natty

>675x5 DL

There's no fucking way without being not natty

I refuse to believe
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>>42362570
How much does he weigh?
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>>42361667
why
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How do the guys doing cowboy method program chins and upper back/isolation work in general? I was thinking of doing a few easy sets of pull ups every day at home and just throwing in some curls and reverse flies every training session.
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>>42360956
hey thats pretty mean!
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>>42358857
You can move intensity deadlift to friday with no worries, most people prefer it so
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>>42362835
His instagram bio says "1802@181"

So probably high 180s low 190s
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>>42363725
>meme weight classes
>natty

kek
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wow that was a long log of Norman khan that I just dropped into the toilet

Not sure if anything else is gonna come out apart from that one log

Stink factor of 3.2/10
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oh wait spoke too soon another log of Norman Khan in fact came out
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>>42358017
zmg, you need most probably zinc
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>>42361019
>>42361063
>>42361081
m-my princesa is back??


PROVE it

>>42364274
>>42364281
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>>42361142
>1/10 the rom of conventional pulls
>technique

This is why powerlifting is (rightfully) seen as a joke.
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>>42364274
>>42364281
>>42364503
dont ignore me !
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reminder that SS brought my terrible 93kg 3x5 bench to 105kg 3x5 in a matter of weeks with a steady 1kg a session

I stalled at 105kg I switched to 5x3. I just did 107kg 5x3 easy at RPE6-7. I think I can grind this out to at least 115kg lmaoo. Thank you rippletits I was going months before doing meme routines with little progresison recommended by some trannyfaggot on here
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>>42361404
>My problem with sumo DL is that it reduces the handicap that a long torso has.
>So people who are good at squat also become good at deadlift, and then they out total the short torso competition.
Wrong. Look at how classic worlds went, in 6 out of 8 weightclasses the best deadlifter won and in the other two classes one pulled conventional. Those with a good deadlift are almost always deadlift specialists, not squatters or benchers who gets a 30 kg boost because they switched to sumo.
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>>42364744
>the best deadlifter won and in the other two classes one pulled conventional
so youre saying sumo pullers win more often

thanks for confirming that sumo is basicly cheating
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>>42364636
holy crap. ill have access to microplates when im back at uni in september, might try a bit of linear progression see if it can help fix my poverty bench
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>>42365164
if you want more details

I did bench twice a week, on monday and friday. Wednesday I did ohp with the same linear progression.
After benching I did 2-4 sets of accessory for my weak areas, which were front delts in my case so I did basicly a variation of ohp for high reps. On ohp days I did occasionally weighted dips for a topset of 5 just to maintain my dipping strength without producing much fatigue

When benching I did rest pause reps as much as possible. If I felt that that the 5th rep was gonna be hard I would just rack it and wait ~10 sec and do a single, the short rest made that 5th rep clean every time. Sometimes I would rack it after the 3rd rep. I just made sure I did the 15 total reps every time and avoid grinders at all cost.
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>>42365164
If you ever use 2 and 1/2 or 5 lb plates, you're already using microplates.
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>>42365258
How about important details like what is your bench press and your body weight
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>>42365322
I weigh 88kg right now I was about 87.2kg when I started

>what is your bench press
can you read dude
> just did 107kg 5x3 easy at RPE6-7
oh and I do everything paused, even warmup
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>those hash tags

The balls on this guy
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>>42365410
>mr.deadlift
>pulls sumo
terrible

just terrible
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>>42365355
So your best is 107kg?
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>>42365446
cant tell if this guy is genuinely retarded
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>>42364785
I pull 20 kg more conventional than I do with a sumo stance. Is that also cheating?
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I'm gonna hit 100kg Deadlift tomorrow lads
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>>42365502
Can u wait for me to bench it first I'm so close
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>>42365526
sorry man I can't wait. I'm a skelly skelleton and it will be my first 3 digit lift
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>>42358958
Yes, it's less injurious and involves the same musculature through a similar ROM. Also most of the times you'll have to lift something in your life, you'll need to use a straddle stance.
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>>42365258
cracking, cheers friend
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>>42365453
You're in a powerlifting thread and you don't know what your one-rep maximum for bench press is? And I'm the retard?
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>>42365502
>his deadlift is less than my ohp

bruh
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>>42365789
if I was doing a steady linear progression do you think I would exactly know what my one rep maximum is? I havent tested it because my max keeps going up every session

if I did 107kg for 5 sets of 3 for an rpe of 6-7, you could assume I couldve done a top set for at least 6 reps and that is without a taper. So that would estimate my max being at at least 127kg for a single since 6rm=~84%

wooow that was hard to figure out
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Rate my breakfast /plg/ cottage cheese, oats, bananas, raspberries and a bit of honey.
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>>42359352
thick neck, mirin hard breh
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>>42365844
So you have only benched 107 but your AKSHUAL max is like 20 kg more ok bro.
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just ate 1kg of peaches brehs
feels good
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>>42366064
when I could bench 93kg 3x5 my max was tested at 115kg

but you dont actually lift so you wouldnt know how this all works thats ok just stop posting here
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>>42366094
fucking bench chads
>>
I can't handle stress too well ladddds

How do I handle stressful situations?
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>>42365502
Please be stone
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>>42365502
>Being this weak
lmafo
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>>42366200
Focus on the task at hand and do one thing at a time.
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>>42366250
I've convinced myself that people as weak as that guy don't actually want to be strong. I can't comprehend not being able to walk into the gym and pick up 225 off of ground unless you are a child, a woman, or unless you have cerebral palsy
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>>42366200
Put yourself in the more stressful situations until they don't feel stressful anymore instead of hiding like a sperg on the internet
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anyone have experience meeting a thicc qt online and then having her be much thiccer irl

Asking for a friend
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>>42366530
>her be much thiccer irl
yes

women will use any form of illusion to their advantage, never forget that my friend
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>>42366530
Please remove my Pepe it's copyrighted. I will send a DMCA takedown and take you to court if you do not comply.
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>>42366530
All bitches are fat; they just weigh different amounts.
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>>42366530
Post pics.

Everyone likes a slam-piggie.
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>>42366604
Fuck off panzer
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I didn't get to train on Monday / Tuesday. Im on tm and I want Friday to be my last day of training this week - how do I stricture this?

Do I just do a """light""" volume day today and intensity Friday (skip deload / recovery day)
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>>42367351
You must skip recovery day.
If you're doing 5x5 for volume day probably you could probably get away with doing 2 or 3x5 and then putting in a full intensity day on Friday, hopefully you're young and have good recovery. However, it's still ____not recommended____.

Do the right choice and do your full VD today and then your full ID on Saturday whenever you're free with 2x full rest days in between!
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>>42367351
assuming that youre gonna train today, do 3x5 instead of the 5x5 you would normally do

friday hit your scheduled 5rm for a triple or even a double
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>gonna try out DC training (bodybuilding program that focuses on getting stronger)
>going to the gym today to get a feel for a bunch of exercises I normally don't do or haven't ever done

I'm looking forward to focusing on getting stronger on something other than squat, bench, deadlift, and press.

How's training going, plg?
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>>42367982
>bodybuilding program that focuses on getting stronger
wat
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>>42368038

That's what I said. It's for real, though.

Rough overview: http://www.intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=19724
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>>42367982
Hope you've got some HGH/ostarine in your stack or else RIP your joints
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>>42368070
>http://www.intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=19724
so youre just doing some generic brosplit???

I thought the people here were smarted than that
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>>42366604

Remember that ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>42368258
You couldn't be anymore annoying raffy
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>>42367982
>I'm looking forward to focusing on getting stronger on something other than squat, bench, deadlift, and press.
If you're intermediate, that's a good way to prepare yourself for becoming an advanced lifter.
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>>42368281
You're wrong. He could be Sean. Having 2 Khan-posters would be more annoying.

At least this time Raffy is larping as a man.
>>
Homemade pickles and cold chicken for lunch lads. Too fucking hot to eat a real meal.
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>>42368114

Try reading it again, it's a bit different from the average bro split.

>>42368707

I thought so, too. Variation of main movements seems to be a common theme for advanced lifters. I also really like the idea of just changing the variation to something else when you stall.
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>>42368866
As long as your practice the squat, bench, and deadlift occasionally to keep the motor pattern, load up on the variations for your volume and pack on the mass to fill out your frame.
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>>42365589
Thats what I thought too, it seems easier to keep a neutral lower back from what I've heard which sounds like a huge benefit when going heavy, actually has similar ROM and is harder at certain points according to nuckols so theyre pretty equal also I straddle much more irl.

Kinda torn which to pick
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>>42365589
>less injurious
If you already have a lower back injury, maybe.

>and involves the same musculature
It uses the same muscles, yes.

>through a similar ROM
LOL NO
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>>42368908
Sumo is for dicklets. It's a retarded cheater lift with less range of motion, and it can't even be properly locked out.

Unless you're setting a record, pull conventional so you don't end up liking cock.
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>>42368954
We're talking about maybe 10 degrees difference in back angle between the two unless you pull reverse-squat equipped memestyle.
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>>42368977
Buttmad Ripplet detected
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>>42369013
Sumo further de-legitimizes this shit hobby.

Ban sumo.
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>>42369037
Nah not really
>>
reminder that elite sumo pullers train conventional

thats how much of a joke sumo is
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>>42369043
Yes really.

Nobody cares about a sumo puller besides chinks and autists
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>>42368895

Will do, man.

Also, I just tried out incline press for the first time in like a year. Shaky as fuck. Should get a lot of easy progression on that.
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>all this bait
Fucking hell lads, you all must be really bored
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>>42369062
Nobody cares about powerlifting at all and they only care about WSM or crossfit when espn4 airs it
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>>42369089
>someone insulted by sumo pull, everythnig must be b8
No, sumo is just legit retarded
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>>42369045
Who?
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>>42369111
>Implying I give a single fuck what anyone on an Canadian goat milking forum thinks
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>>42369127
so that why you bench max grip

you think that has any carryover whatsoever in real life? Youre not training with full specificity for this ''sport'' now arent ya?
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>>42369138
I do what's most comfortable for me and I don't really give a fuck about "carryover to real life", that's not why I lift. I lift because it's fun.
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>>42369151
fat retard the epitome of egolifting


lmao, I suddenly understood why panzer was making fun of us
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I'd rather have a jacked back than jacked legs tbqhfam so I like conventional. Also sumo feels shittier.
>>
I'm depressed despite doing things that make me happy
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>>42369165
You're a lanklet so it's not like you'll be able to get jacked legs for another 10+ years anyway :^)
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>>42369165
You're skinny enough to get your knees out more before the pull. It will help you set your back.
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>>42369166
kys, sean, nobody cares
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>>42369165
you do squats for jacked legs and deadlift for jacked back

thats how it supposed to be
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>>42369189
You mean point my toes out more and push my knees out? I haven't really experimented with that, so I may give it a try.
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>>42369227
Not necessarily toe-out angle, but maybe. More so just get the weight to the outside of your feet, and torque your knees out a bit.

It will help turn your glutes on so you don't lose your back angle.
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>>42369222
But twink actively rounds his back during squats, he's really dedicated to those back gains
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>>42369249
I'll try it out and see how it feels/looks. Thanks, anon.

>>42369184
>>42369256
R-rude.
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>>42369256
>But twink actively rounds his back during squats,
so do you

>yfw fat retard does squats for his back and deadlifts for his legs
never go full retard dude
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>>42369280
Try it just with bodyweight right now.

Hip hinge down like you're going to deadlift, then torque your knees out and take a big belly breath. Your lower back will feel much more neutral.
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>>42369165
You have neither?
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>>42369280
Ily bby

>>42369290
I don't round my mid/upper back mid rep because my quads are too weak to get me out of the hole dude
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>>42369322
He's pretty ripped compared to normies.
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>>42369166
Your life is devoid of meaning, happiness is not meaning or value
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>>42369307
Yeah you're right, it feels good. I have some deadlifts tomorrow so I'll video them and see if it's flatter. Thanks, again.
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>>42369344
Good luck, Corpus Colossus.

You're using your quads to break the floor, but it sacrifices hip position, which is why you struggle at lockout. Just set that back and get your glutes working, and you'll have better hip position.

Send nudes.
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N-new soon?
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>>42369599
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>>42369098
Strongman looks really fun and I want to get into it. The only thing that's keeping me from competing is the fuck off high incidence of injury, which is something that I'd kind of like to avoid.
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>>42369766
If you don't do steroids you'll already be ahead of the curve w.r.t. injury prevention in strongman
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Lads

What's my set rep scheme for squats today and what anime am i watching later?
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>>42370055
7 sets and 7 reps and you are watching Naruto
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>>42370055
8x3 @80% then 3x8 @65%, Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress
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