Golden era body building... Who had the best physique?

>>42347067
Zane had the most impressive but man I love reeves look so much. Definitely my favorite.

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Always liked Sergio Oliva

>>42347067
I gotta go with Arnold. Just something about the size of his chest.

>>42347067
Serge Nubret

>>42347335
this

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Quadzilla

Zane or Reeves

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Arnold. He just looked like he was more than human.

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Arnold is unquestionably the king

>>42347067
EASILY Steve Reeves. Arnold and Frank look good to but their legs are too small imo

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>>42349320
Big legs that overpower the upper body are not aesthetic. If you ask any woman who would she prefer Tom Platz or Frank Zane they'll all answer Frank.

Anyway, a truly underrated physique is Big Lou's.

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>>42349341
That's because tom platz's legs are fucking MASSIVE. And I agree big legs are not aesthetic but that only if they are extremely large. Small legs are way better than extremely large one

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>>42349362
Okay, but Arnold had objectively bigger legs than Steve.

>>42349341
Also women will most likely choose big legs that are balanced with the physique over someone with legs that are small.

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>>42349372
It seems that way but they weren't really balanced with his physique since his upper body was extremely large while Reeve's was on the smaller and slimmer side. But I gotta give props to arnie for fixing those legs

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>>42349378
Arnold wasn't one of those people, however.

>>42349397
Arnold purposefully kept his legs from growing too much. These aren't chicken legs, though.

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Since no ones mentioned him yet im gunna throw franco out there

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>>42349528
Franco would have been better than Arnold or Frank Zane if he wasn't 5'5.

>>42347067
luther igno

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>>42347335

>>42347067
Jesus man, Arnold's lats go all the way to his glutes

Serge Nubret is the correct answer

>>42349558

Serge, hell yeah

Is it true thst after coming second to Arnold so many times, did Serge decide to quit the same year as Arnold because he didn't want to just be handed the Olympia, he wanted to take it from Arnold? It's a bit of a coincidence otherwise.

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>>42350169
nope, serge quit because he came to south africa about ten pounds heavier a week before the contest and was told he couldn't compete(for bullshit reasons). he decided to stay and watch the show anyway and didn't bother training or watching his diet in the run up to the show, only to be told a day or two before that he could compete again. I don't think he would have won had this not happened, Arnold was still a better poser and a more complete bodybuilder, but it was obviously fraudulent enough for him to quit the IFBB. pic is what serge looked like before they told him not to compete.

>>42349183
He truly does look in this picture like the Overman ideal of Fascist philosophy. I would say he came pretty close to reaching Übermensch status. Too bad he then went to Hollywood and went full retard mentally.

>>42349528
Is he a fucking eunuch or something? Completely flat there

>>42350374
But becoming a movie star and later a successful politician just makes him more of a an UBERMENSCH. The guy is the GOAT immigrant story.

>>42350314
I mean, if he was over the weight limit then how is it a bullshit reason that he wasn't allowed to compete in the same weight class as Arnie?

>>42350424
I disagree, because he did several things an übermensch would not do. Such as having a bastard child with a hideous Mexican troll creature. Or befriending rich and corrupt Jews in order to get favors from them in the movie industry. Or being anti-Trump during his campaign. These are all pretty bitch tier behavior.

>>42349558
serge arms are the best i've ever seen in my life, it overpowers everyone elses arms so easily

>>42347067
>using a picture of 1980 arnold

>>42350374
>>42350424
>>42350446
Isn't the concept of Ubermensch more a philosophical thing? Something to the effect of building and adhering to your own morality? I don't really into Nietzche.

>>42350604
Depends whose ideal of the Übermensch you believe in. Nietzsche's was "You are an overman if at your death bed you were asked would you change anything in your past, and you wouldn't, because you regret nothing". In other words, having led a life of perfect choices and not regretting a single thing is what determines an overman.
Fascist philosophers expanded upon that though, to include achieving peak physical performance among other things. I prefer their views on it because they aspire to even greater heights than just not regretting anything in your life.

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>>42347067
Did Dorian Yates ruin body building or was it Lee Haney?

>>42350793
Yates' legs are way too big, but I would say his physique is still aesthetic. Ronnie Coleman ruined bodybuilding, he looks like a fucking horse.

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>>42350793
Lee was the first to get the huge legs and lats, Yates got even bigger, and Ronnie took it to circus freakshow size. Ronnie was winning because of his size, not aesthetic and that kind of set the bar so now the sport is just totally different

>tfw jeans will never look this good on you

>>42347361
what are nipples?

>>42347067
Frank always had the most aesthetic physique.

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>>42350898
forgot pic

i think the first guy is enough for most people

>>42350793
ronnie

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Frank zane

>Looks like a greek god god

>>42350446
>he thinks being an UBERMENSCH meana being a Nazi

Lmao. Political ideology does not make you ubernensch. Being physically and mentally superior does, and btw Trump is a kike supporter so your argument is retarded.

>>42351546
It's not possible to be an Overman if you are not a National Socialist/Fascist.
>Being physically and mentally superior does
Yes, the mental part of which requires being a Nazi.
>Trump is a kike supporter so your argument is retarded
Yes, he is, and? That doesn't in any way go against my point, because Arnold supporting Kasich is a million times more pathetic. Arnie failed to become an Overman.

>>42351546
>>42351594
Also, there are no true Scotsmen. Fucking logical fallacy circle jerk.

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Is this achievable natty?

>>42351594

Trump is a retard and his administration is a circus.

Kasich was a thousand times better than this fucking goof.

>>42351674
Hhahaha, good one. 9/10.
Trump is no nationalist, but you're literally braindead if you don't acknowledge that he was and is the best out of all the possible options USA had in these elections.

>>42351594
>a man who has been super successful in bodybuilding, business, acting, and political failed to become an overman

Kek, but I'm sure you are a total ubernensch.

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>>42350429
You misunderstand me, back then the only weight classes were over and under 200 lbs. Arnie was around 220 in 75, and Lou(in the same class as him and Nubret) weighed around 280. the stated reason Serge wasn't allowed to compete was because he appeared in a film with a sex scene, and apparently that was a no go by IFBB standards back then. The weight issue is simply that he was tricked into losing muscle before the contest. This was what Nubret said about the whole situation years later.

>>42351708
No, you retard? No man has yet achieved becoming an Übermensch. Not a single one in history. Are you one of those ignorant fucks brainwashed by Hollywood kike versions of Nazism and don't know that the National Socialists believed no one is an Overman, but that it's a goal worth working towards achieving?
It might even be impossible, but it's still worth trying to achieve.
Arnold failed.

>>42351923
Well I'm not surprised (((Weider))) was a scheming cunt, he is a Jew after all. This is what every industry run by Jews is like, all about politics and favors, not about fair competition.

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>>42351973
I agree that its a scummy move but I don't think Nubret would have won even with the extra 12 lbs. He probably would have beaten Arnold in certain capacities but as an overall bodybuilder, Arnie was fucking unstoppable. Whats somewhat ironic is the federation that Nubret formed ended up being plagued with the exact same bullshit as the IFBB, a good example being when Sergio Oliva(still a huge name at that point) defeated both Nubret and Robbie Robinson at the 1981 WABBA world cup, despite both of them being vastly superior in terms of conditioning and proportion. I think the sport is just irrevocably fucked no matter what brand it goes under or who runs it.

But yeah not a big fan of the (((entertainment industry)))

>>42349558
>wristlet
>necklet
>nigger
>ugly as fuck even for a nigger

>>42352087
Oh yeah, I'm not saying Nubret would have won. Arnold absolutely had a better physique in my opinion.

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>>42352299
Is this you?

>>42352387
no

>>42352387
So it's true then that powerlifting is just for incels with bad genetics...

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>All these Zanefags

Implying Frank ever looked as good as this.

Franco was king of the manlet category. Zane is overrated.

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>"Arnold had no legs bro"

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>>42352530
Let me preface this by saying I love franco. his chest and back are some of the greatest of all time, even including the freaks of the the 90's and beyond. however, there's a reason more people prefer Zane. The man just looks like a fucking super hero, even if Franco probably was more athletic. Zane just had incredible proportions for his frame.

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>>42351943
You haven't explained how he failed, you dumb fuck. I don't give a shit what failed ideology like nazism thought on the matter.

The fact is he perfected himself physically and mentally, and rose above 99.9% of males on this planet.

>>42352734
In his book, education of a bodybuilder, Arnie says that Franco had an unaesthetic body that he forced into aesthetics by bodybuilding. Arnie even points out some of the flaws he had at first, which apparently included a very large gap between the pecs.

>>42352827
Arnold also said Lou had the best genetics, and he (Arnold) would have been unbeatable if he had them, but Lou didn't have Arnold's drive, apparently.

>>42350793
Someone pls post the pic of the olympia winners sized to real height

I've seen it here

>>42350898
Franck next to Arnold looked like an elf

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>>42352952
You mean this?

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>>42352827
while im not a huge fan of the verticle gap between franco's pecs, i think the horizontal line that appears to be unique to him is aesthetic as fuck, some of the best clavicular heads in bodybuilding history

>>42352799
>Nazism
>failed ideology
It worked perfectly, so you're sounding like a triggered little cuck boy right now. How was it a failure when it achieved every goal that it had LMAO.
Arnold is mentally weak apart from having the willpower to train hard like that. He lacks the mental fortitude to not cheat on his wife with hideous mongrels. He lacks the wisdom to support nationalism. He's mentally quite stupid, therefore, failed to become an Overman.

>>42352973
Kinda. Thanks m9

There's another of them standing next to eachother with a height lines background like a police detention pic

>>42352999

You've obviously never read Nietzsche, you fucking absolute pleb.

>>42352862
Arnold was so single minded.

He wrote that after he didn't win his first Mr Olympia, he cried all night. He said he felt as though he'd let everyone in his life who had ever supported him down. Then the next day he begged his US financier (I can't remember his name) to let him stay another year and also to bring over Franco Columbo so he could train harder and win.

I mean, Arnie competed in Mr Europe Jr. And spent 7 days in military jail for it. I can't imagine Lou with that level of determination.

>>42353079
I have, but if you had read the thread you would know I follow the National Socialist ideal of Übermensch rather. Nietzsche was a fucking retard if we're being honest, and a hypocrite to boot. He talked all that about having your own morality and ruling your own life, and then simultaneously whines about anti-Semitism, pretty contradictory.
He had a few good ideas but was wrong about most things, and his good ideas were improved a lot by Fascist philosophers.

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>>42353162

Why should a man with his OWN morality who is interested in ruling HIS OWN LIFE be in any way interested in hopping aboard nationalist/authoritarian turnip wagon?

Seems like a refuge for weak cucks.

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simple

>>42353162

>I "FOLLOW" the NS "ideal"

says it all desu m8.

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>>42353244
The only way to rule your own life is to be a National Socialist living in a NS state. It's not possible elsewhere, because other systems prevent you from being your own master.
National Socialism is true freedom. In no other system is a man as free.

>>42353269
It's a manner of speaking retard, reading too much into that does not an argument make.
If you are not NS, you are definitely never going to become an Overman. Completely impossible.

>>42349320
>criticize Arnold and Frank for having small legs
>bigger legs than Reeves
?

>>42353276

So what you're saying is you haven't read or you've grossly misunderstood/abused Stirner's thoughts on the state AND Nietzsche's concept of the ubermensch.

Try reading slower faggot. Sound it out.

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Whoops, did I just end the thread?

>>42353314
When did I say I have ever read Stirner? He was a complete retard and there is nothing to be gained form reading his works. He was literally a fucking cuckold top kek, his wife was fucking other men and he knew about it and did nothing.
This is the kind of person anarchists and commies idolize hahahah.
Secondly, I understand Nietzsche's concept of the Übermensch perfectly, you must be dyslexic, as I already said several times he was wrong about what an Overman is. The National Socialists were right about it.

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>>42347335
this guy

>>42353379

>I haven't read it but somehow fully understand and discredit it in its entirety.

The herd is the herd is the herd, even if it's purebred. Submission is submission even if it's to your glorious volk.

If we're tossing around ADHOMs, Hitler had a micropenis, one nut, and was a literal Jewboi - and offed himself like an absolute coward.

Stay spooked you weird nerd pussy.

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>>42352999
>nazis lost WW2 and were condemned as evil racists forever
>It worked perfectly
Wew lad.

>Arnold is mentally weak apart from having the willpower to train hard like that.
And the will to become the greatest movie star of all time when everyone told him he'll never make it. And the willpower to enter politics and become the governor of one of the biggest states in America, even though everyone thought he was a dumb meathead.

>He lacks the mental fortitude to not cheat on his wife with hideous mongrels
That's just being alpha. He has a duty to nature to spread his alpha seed. Plus, have you seen his legit sons? They're failures in every way.

>He lacks the wisdom to support nationalism
He lives in a fake country where nationalism makes no sense. Why would he support it? Politics have nothing to do with being an ubermensch, anyway. That other guy was right, you've obviously never read Nietzsche.

>>42353457
Implying polygamy isnt one of the several deadly mistakes people make and doesn't ruin the marriage arrangement and thus send a society on a downward path to the destruction of the family/tribe unit and conclude in the collapse of the entire civilization

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>>42353449
There is no herd in National Socialism, nor is there any submission. Only freedom, co-operation and strength.
You're a delusional cuckold who has not read National Socialist philosophy, what makes you think you understand anything about it. It's above your tiny cuck brain.

>Hitler had a micropenis, one nut, and was a literal Jewboi
All proven lies by kikes ages ago. Funny how his Jewish physician from his company in WW1 wrote those things in his medical records AFTER WW2. If they would be true, he would have written them in the records back during WW1 when he actually did medical examinations on Hitler.

Him being in any way related to any Jews is an urban myth, never had any proof for it. But you cucks never had any real arguments, so of course you have to resort to lies and rumors, otherwise you'd just have to shut up.

>and offed himself like an absolute coward
There is no reason to believe he did. Are we supposed to trust the words of Communists? Some of the most immoral and degenerate people in all of human history, and especially since the Soviet Union was run by Jews? You think they were telling the truth about Hitler committing suicide? Jesus man, you are so naive.

Stay mad little cuck boy.

>>42353494
Who cares? That's not what being an ubermensch is about. Society has nothing to do with it. It's about the individual.

>>42353503
>There is no herd in National Socialism, nor is there any submission. Only freedom, co-operation and strength.

hahahaha this fucking guy

>>42353457
Implying communuties function at all when 90% of females fuck 10% of males. The females end up in control. Your creating a bonobo masturbation society

Arnold literally cucking out and bowing to slutty cunts

>>42353504
Which is why it fails you retard. Individualism is a farse. Humans are naturally collectivist. Why indulge in a something that will bring long term damage to the around you? Not overman at all

Did you even read beyond good and evil? You sound like you read the back cover and filled in the gaps with your own preconceived notions of what an alpha is.

>>42353457
>nazis lost WW2 and were condemned as evil racists forever
Like clockwork. The same old non argument, every time. Losing a war has fuckall to do with how well a governmental and economical system worked. You realize that? Like, literally NOTHING to do with it. Two completely unrelated things. You do understand this, right? Or are you too unintelligent?

There is nothing alpha about race mixing, it's instant beta status and loss of the "Might become Overman" -card. Even more beta is cheating on your wife.

>He lives in a fake country where nationalism makes no sense. Why would he support it?
Fair enough.
>Politics have nothing to do with being an ubermensch, anyway.
Nationalism is not politics, it is a duty of every man. It's instinctual, as long as one does not suffer from testosterone deficiency like you.
>That other guy was right, you've obviously never read Nietzsche.
No, you're both retards and wrong. I have read Nietzsche, and I said this several times, Nietzsche was wrong about what an Overman is. How is this so hard for your pea brain to understand? What I am calling an Overman, I never fucking said its what Nietzsche described an Overman as. Nietzsche didn't know his own ass from his face, he was a mentally ill lunatic.

>>42353512
>Implying communuties function at all when 90% of females fuck 10% of males.

So what? Arnold is the top 0.1% of males, which is what makes him an ubermensch.

And if anything, women being free to choose the top 10% is good, it weeds out shitty genetics and cucks like you.

>>42350681
>the overman is about no regrets
Jesus Christ, you have no idea what you're talking about. The fascists didn't understand Nietzsche either.

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>>42353511
Not an argument. You have no counter argument to it, as it is objective truth.
Pic related, it's you.

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>>42353503

>There is no herd in National Socialism, nor is there any submission. Only freedom, co-operation and strength.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

His mother was a Jew, and if Jewery is a race rather than a creed (((Hitler))) he would be ???????

If he didn't kill himself, then THEY killed him? Wouldn't that mean their collectivist spookery OVERPOWERED your preferred flavor of masses bent to an abstract ideal?

I'm not mad m8 I just would hate to see you persist in making a fool out of yourself on the internet. I worry about you anon.

I'll admit his babydick is ultimately irrelevant.

>>42353559
No, you have no idea what you are talking about.
>The fascists didn't understand Nietzsche either.
National Socialists are not Fascists. Two different things. But a cuckold like you wouldn't understand these two philosophies anyway.
As for National Socialists, they did understand Nietzsche, they just intentionally disregarded his retarded bullshit and improved on the good. Nietzsche was wrong about most things. You're legitimately autistic if you idolize him and believe in his philosophy.

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>>42353547
> Losing a war has fuckall to do with how well a governmental and economical system worked.

You still don't understand. It's a failed ideology because it has been condemned and left behind. It doesn't matter how effecient it was if nobody uses it.

>Even more beta is cheating on your wife.
Cheating is alpha. It's what alpha males do, biologically. It's morally wrong, but as far as nature and the alpha/beta dichotomy are concerned it's alpha.

>Nationalism is not politics, it is a duty of every man.
Lmao. "Duty". Cuck mentality at its finest. A real man fights for himself and what he wants, that's what an alpha does, not follow some ideology in spite of his wants and desires because it's "right".

>Nietzsche was wrong about what an Overman is
He literally invented the concept, you tard.

>>42353591
Samefagging now? Or just equally retarded?
>His mother was a Jew
Wrong, a total lie.
>If he didn't kill himself, then THEY killed him?
Umm yes, the Communists that breached the bunker killed him. Fucking retard, jesus christ.
>Wouldn't that mean their collectivist spookery OVERPOWERED your preferred flavor of masses bent to an abstract ideal?
You have zero fucking clue about any of this, and you're clearly from Reddit based on the way you type.
>I just would hate to see you persist in making a fool out of yourself on the internet
Would be a first, since the only ones who've made a fool out of themselves in this thread are you cuckolds.
>I worry about you anon.
Does a lion care what sheep think? It's irrelevant what clearly subhumans like you worry about.
>I'll admit his babydick is ultimately irrelevant.
Right, nothing more irrelevant than lies invented by kike doctors on forged documents. Not that we'll ever find out, but he most likely had a much bigger one than you, since you clearly suffer from very high estrogen levels.

>>42353603
You still don't understand. What the populations have been brainwashed to think about is irrelevant. The fact remains that it works perfectly and produces incredibly results far beyond anyones imagination.

>Cheating is alpha.
Wrong.
>It's what alpha males do, biologically.
No, what alpha's do is take concubines. Your wife should know her place and that you can take concubines and mistresses. But if you do it secretly like a little bitch, that's pretty beta.

>Lmao. "Duty". Cuck mentality at its finest.
Not when it's duty to yourself, your people and your ancestors, not to some government.
>A real man fights for himself and what he wants, that's what an alpha does
Yes, that is what National Socialists do.
>not follow some ideology in spite of his wants and desires because it's "right"
Sure doesn't sound like National Socialism at all.

I guess you're one of those morons who has never read NS philosophy and has zero fucking clue what it's even about huh?

>He literally invented the concept, you tard.
Yes, you sub 70 IQ mongrel, but it was IMPROVED by others. His concept of it was faulty, just like your brain. Jesus Christ, take your autism medication.

>>42353656

There are at least two of us lighting you up right now. I will set aside all ADHOMS for the now. What I am saying is that if an ideal is to be judged on it's capacity to be made manifest (even in the presence of opposition) then your precious NATSOC got BTFO'd by the commies and kikes you so despise. If you didn't care what we the "sheep" thought, you would have left it alone, instead of allowing yourself to be triggered and milked this way. My rumored high estrogen levels are lies concocted by Jewish conspirators and should never be spoken of again.

My primary point is that the people, the race, the "volk" are categorically the "herd" in that everything (the self included) is to operate for their benefit in your spooked-out ideology. In the presence of an authoritarian state there is little of anything BUT submission - absence of freedom of the individual unless they operate within what is permitted by the state. Co-operation is well and good, but if it is compulsory then you're fucking with freedom of the individual. If strength is the metric by which an ideal is to be judged, then Nazis were bested.

I don't know what more I can do for you.

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>>42353718
>What the populations have been brainwashed to think about is irrelevant. The fact remains that it works perfectly and produces incredibly results far beyond anyones imagination.

It can't be called successful if it didn't catch on, you inbred hick. If it was actually good it would still be used.

>Wrong.
>No, what alpha's do is take concubines
I thought cheating was beta, you dumb retard.

>duty to yourself
Okay.

>your people and your ancestors
No such thing. I never chose or wanted them, I have no obligation to them.

>Yes, that is what National Socialists do.
Lol no.

>I guess you're one of those morons who has never read NS philosophy
Because it's shit.

>it was IMPROVED by others
By making the ubermensch into a cuck who lives for others? Hell no.

>>42353835
This post is pure concentrated autism.
You really don't understand anything do you. I guess these things are too complicated for you.
You legitimately have zero fucking idea what life in the Third Reich was like, you think it was some kind of submission, when it was true freedom, it was what everyone wanted. It's cute that you rant about submission, when literally every other ideology has been about submission, and National Socialism about ending it.
>If strength is the metric by which an ideal is to be judged
Never said it is, nice strawman argument.

>I don't know what more I can do for you.
More? You haven't done anything for me. All you've done is be wrong about everything and act like an average uneducated commie retard. You are a child, perhaps eventually you will grow up and mature.

>>42353835
>If strength is the metric by which an ideal is to be judged, then Nazis were bested.

Well said. Might makes right at the end of the day.

>>42351594
Nietzche was anti-fascist. Fascism is about subsuming the individual under the State, which is a collective. Nietzsche was resolutely anti-collective, critical of the State, critical of Germany in particular, and asserted the Individual above all. You're a retard.

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What the fuck is happening in this thread? Why can't you /pol/ retards stay in your containment board instead of shitting up the whole site?

>>42353897
Not that guy, but when your entire argument can be boiled down to "no you're just too dumb to understand my high school-level philosophy" then you lost the argument. Either argue or accept defeat, don't resort to ad hominems. They make you sound buttblasted.

>>42353897
>thread about classic bodybuilding
>100 posts later some types paragraphs about why Hitler was right
4chan.

>>42353845
>It can't be called successful if it didn't catch on
It DID catch on you braindead mongoloid. Literally the entire populations of whites all across the world supported Hitler and National Socialism. How ignorant of history do you have to be to not know that the whole English and American white populations for example were very much in support of National Socialism before the war? Then they were forced into war against them by their Jewish masters, and then the war propaganda and defaming by the media started to influence them.

>I thought cheating was beta
That's not cheating though. Cheating is lying to your wife that she is the only one. It's fine if you let her know that you do it and that you have the right to do it as the man.

>No such thing. I never chose or wanted them, I have no obligation to them.
Oh so you're a cuckold. Gotcha. Every man has a duty to their ancestors, but it's good that you admit you're not a man but a little beta bitch.

>Lol no.
Lol yes.

>Because it's shit.
How would you know, when you never read about it. Your view of it is from Jews, not from National Socialists themselves. Your brain is full of propaganda and lies.

>By making the ubermensch into a cuck who lives for others? Hell no.
Again, you have no clue about any of this stuff. The Nazis were the ones to come closest to becoming Overmen. Not anyone who has followed Nietzsches retarded views.

>>42353905
>Fascism is about subsuming the individual under the State, which is a collective

Exactly. How someone could say Fascism is about freedom with a straight face is beyond me.

We could have had a nice thread about bodybuilding but you just had to shit it up with /pol/

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.....anyway, why has no one posted the GOAT yet?

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>>42354026

>>42353961
>Literally the entire populations of whites all across the world supported Hitler and National Socialism.
Haha. Sure. That's why they ass raped Germany in the war right? The jews made them do it, because the jews have mind control powers now.

>That's not cheating though.
It is. You yourself said polyamorous relationships were degenerate. But keep back-peddling.

>Every man has a duty to their ancestors,
No, I don't and why should I? Doing things not because you want to but because of your dead ancestors, who you've never met, is the ultimate form of self-cuckoldry.

>Lol yes
Oh, no it isn't. Like that other guy said Fascism is all about the state. The individual is just another cog in the machine. Another sheep in the herd.

>How would you know, when you never read about it
It's gotta be if your self-contradictory arguments are influenced by it. You don't need to be a nazi to hate the kikes btw.

>the Nazis were the ones to come closest to becoming Overmen
How could they be Overmen if they were doing the exact opposite of what an Overman is? They should have come up with their own name since their ideology was completely different. Something like ubercuck would have been fitting since they cucked themselves and got cucked by the Russians hard.

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>>42353900
No it was pretty asinine and childish of him to say. One country against dozens of ZOGbot nations ganging up on it, of course they will eventually lose. What kind of test of strength is that?
That's like saying you're weak because 30 niggers jumped you on the street at night and smashed you in the back of your head with a bottle and then stomped you.

>>42353905
>Nietzche was anti-fascist.
And? I've never said he wasn't.
>Fascism is about subsuming the individual under the State, which is a collective.
Yes, and? National Socialism is not Fascism. You really don't know that?
There's a pretty huge difference in these two systems.
In Fascism, the citizen serves the state. In National Socialism, the state serves the citizen. Complete opposite.
>Nietzsche was resolutely anti-collective, critical of the State
And? I haven't said he wasn't.
>critical of Germany in particular
He died about 30 years before the founding of the Third Reich, so not sure how your pea brain is using him being "critical of Germany" as an argument against Nazi Germany.
>You're a retard.
Why, because you had a fantasy where my arguments were something you just completely made up? You 100% invented all of these ideas about me believing that Nietzsche was pro-fascist or something. It's clearly you who is retarded LMAO.
Nietzsche was a fucking mentally ill idiot and a Jew lover.

>>42353909
Why don't you go back to your containment forum Reddit? Leftists have never been welcome on 4chan.

>>42353923
I won the argument though. Nice of you to ignore that he resorted to ad hominems and strawman arguments in his very first posts. I'm just having a laugh and making fun of the poor little anarchist cuck boy. He doesn't deserve to be treated like a man, it's not like he is one. He's a little beta bitch.

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>>42354094
Then maybe they shouldn't have attacked 30 niggers at once, retard.

>inb4 they didn't
Yes, they did. What else was going to happen when they invaded Poland? Was Hitler dumb enough to take the other European powers would just let him expand? And of course, attacking the USSR was possibly the dumbest move in warfare history.

>>42353592
What's autistic is being a DYEL nerd on the internet talking about NS when you're a weak, pimpled genetic failure that would be put on the train to Dachau the second the Nazis ran out of Jews. Why is it that teenagers online always thing that the best situation is a radical totalitarian state run by an elite AND that they would of course be part of that elite? You're a brainlet. Stop posting here.

>>42354094
> I'm just having a laugh
>by sitting on /fit/ shitposting about nazism

Okay, breh.

i'm closing this fucking tab

>>42354000

You can't escape /pol/ if you post on this website unfortunately.

>>42352087
what the fuck, the arms on the dude on the right is bigger than his quads

>>42353897

You've got nothing to counter any of that rather than the assertion that I'm an autist, a retard, a communist, and immature. ADHOM gauntlet. I'll concede that I don't have immediate knowledge of what life was like in the Third Reich, but judging by your assertion that everyone was on board, I don't think you do either.

You never said that "might makes right" but you did say that "strength" was one of the core values of your preferred spooking. Their strength was outmatched - as a matter of historical fact.

"Egoism" was a spook in itself, but I'd say that it, along with most forms of unbridled anarchism and moral nihilism held freedom of the individual with much higher regard that NATSOC ever did. Whether or not any of these ideas are practical is another matter.

Also, Arnold probably had the best physique. The MASSIVE legs of today aren't aesthetic, but neither are disproportionate chicken legs. Zane was aesthetic AF, always liked Franco as a mighty mouse type PRIMO gym buddy of all time, and Lou as the underdog.

>>42353962
I don't know, but nobody HAS said Fascism is about freedom. It's a pretty common mistake by cuckolding enthusiasts like you, to confuse Fascism with National Socialism. But they are two very different systems.
NS is about freedom. Fascism is about control.

>>42354000
Tbh it was, as usual, the leftycucks who ruined the thread as they always do. They always start whining and bitching about every thing and derail threads.

>Haha. Sure. That's why they ass raped Germany in the war right?
What? That has nothing to do with that topic. Are you actually autistic or something?
Yes, it's common knowledge Europeans and Americans all across the world were extremely in support of National Socialism before the war started.
>The jews made them do it, because the jews have mind control powers now.
No, you mentally ill subhuman, the Jews have money and power. Yes, they fucking did make them do it. They literally made those countries declare war on Germany.
Jesus Christ you really don't know anything about history?

>It is. You yourself said polyamorous relationships were degenerate.
No I did not.
>But keep back-peddling.
It's backpedaling, you illiterate autist, and I've done no such thing.
>No, I don't
Yes, you do.
>why should I?
Because they worked their asses off to build a better nation for you to live in, and continued their bloodlines in order to create you. You have the same duty to continue their work.
But you are a cuckold after all, a pathetic beta bitch and not a man. Do as your high estrogen dictates you to do, not my problem.

>Oh, no it isn't. Like that other guy said Fascism is all about the state.
This is probably the 4th time some retard in this thread starts suddenly talking about Fascism even though we were talking about National Socialism.
Yes, Fascism is all about the state. National Socialism is all about the race. The individual and the race are infinitely more important in NS than the state. The state serves the individual in NS.

>>42354166
He apparently has no idea that the national socialist party was voted into power by a minority of the electorate. He's living in a fantasy where everybody loved it and everybody lived well under it, as opposed to, you know, the well attested reign of terror that was the 1930s and 1940s.
>the only government in which it's possible to be your own ruler is a national socialist government, where you are monitored 24/7 and if you disobey the government, including simply talking to the wrong people, you get disappeared
Sounds so free!

>>42354170

What's the leveling system like in your NATSOC LARP community? Do you have a DM or would that be an affront to the individual freedom of the members?

>>42352530
Franco mediterranean god

>>42354223
He's arguing that the individual is most free under a system where you can't marry or fuck whoever you want, because muh eugenics and muh volk. He's an idiot.

>>42354046
>How could they be Overmen if they were doing the exact opposite of what an Overman is?
They didn't though. Nietzsche was wrong about it, and the Nazis were right. The Nazis did what you need to do in order to get closer to becoming an Overman.
Reminder that Nietzsche was a non exercising pathetic lunatic and mental manlet who died as a DYEL bitch.

>>42354128
>Then maybe they shouldn't have attacked 30 niggers at once, retard.
>Yes, they did.
No, they literally didn't.
And they had no choice other than to attack Poland. You're fucking RETARDED if you think attacking Poland was about expanding, NS is anti-imperialist. The purpose of attacking Poland was four things:
1) Save the Germans living in Poland which were being genocided by the Polish government
2) Take back rightful German lands that had been part of Germany for ages, had German populations (the ones being genocided), German architecture and German culture
3) To save Europe from the Soviet Union, as it was obvious Stalin intends to soon occupy all of Poland and then the rest of Europe. Poland was a strategically very important chokehold for the USSR to hold if they wanted to expand into the rest of Europe. Blocking their expansion was necessary.
4) Poland were being a bunch of retarded cunts and were about to start a war against Germany by themselves. Their army was shit tier and their lunatic ruler thought that they would win against Germany.

>And of course, attacking the USSR was possibly the dumbest move in warfare history.
It was necessary, because the USSR was being supplied and funded by USA. If Germany had just waited and done nothing about them, the Soviets would have conquered all of Europe, turning every country into a communist hellhole - and the "Allies" would have done nothing to stop them. They were the ones who funded them to begin with, and co-operated between each ones Jewish governments.

>>42354170
>it was, as usual, the leftycucks who ruined the thread as they always do
You're the one who started the argument about Arnold, faggot. We were having a nice bodybuilding thread before you unleashed your autism.

>t's common knowledge Europeans and Americans all across the world were extremely in support of National Socialism before the war started.
If it's common knowledge you'll have no trouble providing proof, I'm sure.

>Yes, they fucking did make them do it.
So the white "master" race is ruled over by the supposedly subhuman jews. Doesn't make sense to me, friend.

> They literally made those countries declare war on Germany
No. That was a natural response to Germany attacking another country. The other European powers weren't stupid enough to let Hitler's influnece grow unchecked and become even more of a threat to them.

>No I did not
So you didn't say fucking the maid was wrong?

>It's backpedaling
No, you dumb piece of shit. "back-peddling" is a legitimate phrase, a 20th century bastardization of a centuries-old boating term. And you absolutely are.

>Yes, you do.
Make me.

>Because they worked their asses off to build a better nation for you to live in
Wrong.

>and continued their bloodlines in order to create you.
They did that for themselves, I never asked them to.

>You have the same duty to continue their work.
No.

>But you are a cuckold after all, a pathetic beta bitch and not a man
Says the weakling, who lives for others.

>your high estrogen
My 550 squat says otherwise.

>This is probably the 4th time some retard in this thread starts suddenly talking about Fascism even though we were talking about National Socialism.
One comes from the other after all.

>The state serves the individual in NS.
Communism, capitalism, democracy, etc. they all claim to serve the individual. NATSOC is nothing special.

>>42354253
>Nietzsche was wrong about a concept he invented
Lmao you just be trolling. Nobody is this stupid in real life.

>>42354253
>Nietzsche was wrong about it, and the Nazis were right

How could Nietzsche be wrong about a concept he invented? Holy shit, you are dumb as fuck. The nazis just stole the term from him just like they stole "aryan" from the real aryans.

I'm not gonna quote the rest, but you're retarded if you think Hitler invaded Poland for altruistic reasons.

>If Germany had just waited and done nothing about them, the Soviets would have conquered all of Europe, turning every country into a communist hellhole
Yeah, cause that didn't happen at all, right? Hitler's fuck up is the reason communism spread like it did. The USSR couldn't face Europe alone, but after the war it was free to corrupt the entire eastern half.

>>42354133
>What's autistic is being a DYEL nerd on the internet talking about NS when you're a weak, pimpled genetic failure*
Nice ad hominem there fella. You don't know how strong I am or what I look like. What a sad argument.
>on the train to Dachau the second the Nazis ran out of Jews
Why would they run out of Jews? They weren't killing them, they were using them as slaves in the work camps.
>Why is it that teenagers online always thing
Why is it that boomer cucks like you assume smarter people than you are teenagers? I'm 26. I'm just not retarded like you.
>radical totalitarian state run by an elite
Nothing radical about NS, it's the path of nature. It's a return to the natural norms and the ancient tribal ways. Going against that is what is radical.
And it sure was not run by an elite, the politicians and citizens were all treated as equals - and the job of a politician in an NS state is a career of serving the race, not the race serving you. When you go for that position, you need to be ready to unconditionally and loyally do what is best for your people at all times, not what is best for your personal gain.
>that they would of course be part of that elite?
Every citizen is equal to what you call "the elite" in National Socialism.

You're a brainlet. Stop posting here. Return to Reddit.

>>42354350
>Every citizen is equal to what you call "the elite" in National Socialism.
>there are kids here who actually believe this

ahahahahaha holy fuck

>>42354166
>You've got nothing to counter any of that rather than the assertion that I'm an autist, a retard, a communist, and immature
If you don't want to be thought of as such, then simply stop behaving as one?
>but judging by your assertion that everyone was on board, I don't think you do either
Everyone was on board, after the elections and once they fixed every fucking thing wrong about Germany.
>"strength" was one of the core values
>Their strength was outmatched
Not an argument. Two completely unrelated things. If you weren't so ignorant you would know that strength as a core value in NS means strength of the people, not "hurr my military is bigger than yours". The results of wars has nothing to do with this subject.

>was a spook
>its a spook
>spooked
>hurr spook
Every time you use this word you nullify your own argument. Nobody will ever take you seriously if you use terms invented by Stirner, the literal cuckold. Calling something a spook is literally NOT an argument. I hope you realize this.

>held freedom of the individual with much higher regard that NATSOC ever did
lol no. The NS definitely valued freedom more. There are different kinds of freedoms. Freedom from degeneracy, not freedom to be a degenerate. It's not possible to have all freedoms in a single system, because many freedoms contradict each other.

>>42354248
>He's arguing that the individual is most free under a system where you can't marry or fuck whoever you want
No, you just seem to take your knowledge of Nazism from what Shlomo Goldberg from Hollywood told you it was. You abso fucking lutely 100% did choose your own partner for dating and marriage in the Third Reich. Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up if you haven't read anything about the era and about how life there was like. You are so wrong it's cringe as fuck to read.

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>>42354428
>Everyone was on board, after the elections and once they fixed every fucking thing wrong about Germany.

Are you honestly dumb and naive enough to believe there is a single system where everyone is happy and which fixes all problems?

>>42354350
For the record, me bringing up your genetics or physical fitness is not an ad hominem argument when the topic is a system that enforces fucking eugenics, you brainlet. That'd be like arguing about medicine, pointing out that you're not a doctor, and you crying ad hom. You're a moron.
>You don't know how strong I am or what look like.
I'm pretty sure I do, but go ahead. Post body.

Just a heads up, since this is /fit/, unless you post body, I'm going to start reporting your posts as off topic. I don't even give a fuck about announcing it. Call the police.

>>42354350
Are you the dyel that I shat on because he couldn't show anything other than symmetricalstrength? I thought I told your cuck ass to leave.

Im a black male and i am fucking your white daughters and sisters

>>42354569
Yeah you're the cuck that can't even squat 2pl8 I told your weak ass to leave.

>>42354428

>If you don't want to be thought of as such, then simply stop behaving as one?
If you want a valid argument stop using adhoms, or refute the point, THEN call me a cuck if you have to.
>Everyone was on board, after the elections and once they fixed every fucking thing wrong about Germany.
If you honestly believe any system can be constructed without dissenters, you're deluded.
>Not an argument. Two completely unrelated things. If you weren't so ignorant you would know that strength as a core value in NS means strength of the people, not "hurr my military is bigger than yours". The results of wars has nothing to do with this subject.
So was the "strength" of the people judged by... how much they could bench? I'm not arguing might makes right, simply pointing out that the Nazis seem to have been "out-virtued."

Whenever I use the term spook, I'm pointing out that you're appealing to something abstract - especially in the sense that the individual in any state system is put under the yoke of the "state" - the "people" - and whatever the ideal they're currently clinging/aspiring to. That's three sets of chains - everyone is ultimately theoretically held by these, the real question is whether or not they chafe you, or if you submit willingly - because it is for "the best" (see: spook).

Anyway famalam let me know when your faggot Nazi bullshit is realized. I wonder if you find it at all ironic to you that most of your defenses of Nazism (a bastardized and corrupted attempt to realize Nietzsche's ideal) sound a lot like attempts to justify USSR bullshit (a bastardized and disastrous attempt to realize Marx's ideal). Then again, that would take self-awareness.

Good day, sir.

>>42354569
im pretty sure >>42352387
is actually more appropriate for you m8

>>42351619
how tall are you?

>>42354299
>>42354317
Autism of Nietzsche fagboys triggered.
Of course he can be wrong even though he invented the term. He was wrong about how to ACHIEVE the state of being an Overman. About the method of reaching that point.
This isn't very complicated, try not to fall behind. It's annoying that I have to school you like a child on such simple matters.

>Yeah, cause that didn't happen at all, right?
No, they only got Slavic countries pretty much. They would have gotten as far as France, Italy, Spain and England if Germany had not tried to stop them.
>Hitler's fuck up is the reason communism spread like it did.
No, Hitler definitely killed its spread any further than Germany.
>The USSR couldn't face Europe alone
They absolutely could have if Germany did not attack as soon as they did.

>>42354379
It's the truth. Not my fault you're an autistic cuckold who hasn't educated himself on how NS works.

>>42354463
It's a fact that everyone was happy in the Third Reich and that it did fix all problems. It is almost unbelievable, yes, but it did truly happen. It was nothing short of a miracle.

>>42354492
Oh, you're a retard who doesn't know what ad hominem means. Because it sure as fuck is an ad hominem argument to assume the other person is "weak and pimply" when there is no reason to assume so. You're a moron. Like, actually mentally retarded.
>Post body.
Why didn't you?

>>42354654
not that guy but i also want to see what you look like. how close have you come to realizing your overman ideals? post your body.

>>42354645
5'11

>>42354698
He won't post body the guy is a weakfag that doesn't even have 1/2/3/4 for 1rm.

>>42354508
>>42354599
What are you talking about little cuck boy? Confused?

>or refute the point
You didn't have any point to refute. You literally had no argument mate.
>If you honestly believe any system can be constructed without dissenters, you're deluded
They removed the dissenters. How shocking that none existed after that. Oh wait, it's pretty damn obvious.
>simply pointing out that the Nazis seem to have been "out-virtued."
You keep using this non argument. Why? I disproved it several times already, don't make me repeat myself when you already lost that argument.

>Whenever I use the term spook, I'm pointing out that you're appealing to something abstract - especially in the sense that the individual in any state system is put under the yoke of the "state" - the "people" - and whatever the ideal they're currently clinging/aspiring to. That's three sets of chains - everyone is ultimately theoretically held by these, the real question is whether or not they chafe you, or if you submit willingly - because it is for "the best" (see: spook).
And that is why you are pathetic and will never make it. Those people wanted it, it was their own free will. Nobody was forced. Stop using bad memes invented by a literal cuck who is the laughing stock of philosophers.

>let me know when your faggot Nazi bullshit is realized
Why? You'll know once it's realized, you'll be in for a summer camping trip.

>Nazism (a bastardized and corrupted attempt to realize Nietzsche's ideal)
How moronic, it is no such thing. They took very little inspiration from Nietzsche, and the things they were inspired by him about, they made a lot better. Not much of a corruption, more like an upgrade.

Kill yourself, sir.

>>42354704
yea, most likely
it'll take a few years of strict bodybuilding

>>42354698
>>42354717
How come you little cuck boys aren't posting your bodies but ask others to do that? Kind of weird don't you think?
>how close have you come to realizing your overman ideals?
No one is close. No one has claimed to be close. It's a path that as a race will take hundreds of years, only the descendants of our descendants will be able to reach it.

>>42354654
You don't understand what ad hominem means.

Post body.

>>42354753
anon we're just stupid degenerates, youre so much closer to the ideals than we are! just let us see the next stepping stone on our way to enlightenment! post your body anon.

>>42354775
He won't post because he's a fatass dyel. Guy has no aesthetics or strength.

>>42354753
ignore this guy anon!>>42354789
we all know that youre so much better than us, just post your body so we can see what strength in people(not gay jewish military strength) looks like!

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>>42354775
You don't understand what ad hominem means, jesus christ.
Post body.
>>42354786
>youre so much closer to the ideals than we are
Mentally at least.
>post your body anon
Post your body, cuck-anon.
>>42354789
Post body.

Why are you leftist cucks afraid to post your bodies? Is it because they are weak and flabby?

>>42354730

Yeah I'll be waiting for the train you fucking nerd lol.

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>>42354569
>No, it was clearly you and the other leftycucks who unleashed your autism first.
Who mentioned the Overman first, retard?

>Look it up jackass
No. You made a claim, it's on you to back it up.

>I did.
So now which is it? Is having sex with another woman right or wrong?

>No National Socialist in history has EVER claimed that whites are some master race.
Hitler did.

>If you still haven't noticed by 2017 that Jews control the international banking and media industries,
Of course I've noticed it. That doesn't mean anything in regards to this conversation, however.

>The only real reason for attacking Germany was to prevent a self sufficient nation from existing.
How ridiculous. Germany was becoming a threat to the other powers in Europe. To deny this is absolute insanity.

>Nice e-stats, nobody with your bitch level cuck views can squat that much.
Oh, yeah? Check out these wheels then, bitch. Go ahead, post your dyel body and prove you're more high test than me.

>Right, apart from NatSoc actually serving the citizen instead of only claiming that.
You can't serve anyone by enslaving them to a system which denounces personal freedom.

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>>42354838
Post your body cuck boy bitch beta-anon chan. You have such a strong and aesthetic body like every leftist right?

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>>42354843
Let's see those abs, anon!

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>>42354492
>>42354569
>>42354599
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>>42354698
>>42354730
>>42354753
SHUT THE FUCK UP

we are here to talk about steroid monsters in man thongs, no one gives a fuck about your half formed philosophical Nazism bullshit. Either side of the argument. No one cares. Go shit up a different board.

>>42354654
>Of course he can be wrong even though he invented the term

No, he literally can't. A person who fills the criterion he listed is titled with the term he came up with. It's that simple. The Nazis should have come up with their own title since their definition was much different.

>>42350793
Honestly Yates in his prime was still pretty asthetic. He was a mass monster for sure but he didn't take it to the levels we see today. Ronnie ruined it Imo.

>>42354843
Post body

>>42354868
Those are some juicy wheels no homo.

Btw he'll tell you that he can't see your body thus he won't post. I already went through this with him I posted body and lifts then he proceeded to tell me a 4pl8 squat is poverty tier and he can do it with ease.

Just your typical shitposting /pol/ faggot that came alongside the r9k faggots to shitup this board.

>>42354955
Probably, but I'll post upper body, too. I have no problem with showing my body because I actually lift.

I don't even believe he's really from /pol/. I go to /pol/ and nobody there is retarded enough to say half the shit he said ITT.

>>42354979
Not either of the anons above but I'm mirin dem quads, post body. I need some motivation to hit legs extra hard today

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>>42354992
Okay. Here's upper body.

>>42354843
cmon anon, >>42354868
posted his body, but i'm sure you can beat that! just post yourself already, we're all dying to see :)

>>42355005
Ah I recognize that tat from CBTs I think. Looking solid anon. How long lifting and what routine are you running?

>>42354979
>>42355005
You look great man. It's nice to see that brainlet get BTFO this hard.

>>42354843
Waiting on you, bootlicker.

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>>42355005
thread hero. very impressive stuff, reminds me a little bit of mentzer. speaking of, lets get the thread back on track now that >>42354843
realizes he can't compare.

>>42355024
Thanks. I spent some time on brosplits and the last 2 years on strength training. Right now I'm running PPLxPPLx + cardio, but I'm going to alter my routine September when I start bulking. I need to add more mass on my delts and arms.

>>42355027
Thank you.

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>>42355063
Thanks and yes, lets go back to classic golden age bodybuilding.

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ralf moeller is a favourite of mine, tallest ever mr universe and an inspiration to lanklets like me. shame he came last in his only mr olympia showing but he ended up going into acting and becoming close friends with Arnold so he's probably doing better than most guys of his era.

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speaking of germans that arent retarded naziboos, heres the most successful german bodybuilder ever, jusup wilkosz.

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>>42354868
>So now which is it? Is having sex with another woman right or wrong?
Depends on the context, as I've been saying the entire time.
>Hitler did.
No, he did not. Again, stop getting your "information" about Nazism from Jewish movies.
Hitler never in his life claimed that Germans are a master race of Overmen. Not once. I've read all of his stuff and all other NS philosophical literature, it was about trying to become Overmen together, not claiming that we already are that. They were very clear on this.

>Of course I've noticed it. That doesn't mean anything in regards to this conversation, however.
Of course it does, you were just pretending Jews don't hold great influence and that they don't start wars. They have a long history of starting great wars, even all the way back to the medieval times.

>Germany was becoming a threat to the other powers in Europe.
Germany had no intention to ever start a war against them. They were no threat, they wanted alliance not war. It was the Allies who were hostile. To deny this is insanity.

>You can't serve anyone by enslaving them to a system which denounces personal freedom.
Nobody was enslaved to the system, as the system serves the citizen in NS, not the other way around. The German citizens loved National Socialism, absolutely adored it and for very good reasons.

Anyway, here's my legs since you were the only one to post a pic so far. Apologies for the awful lighting, I can't get a proper lighting for a picture in my house, none of the mirrors are near lamps - plus the camera is pretty low quality.
You're ok, even though very misguided on NS and have your view on it based on movies and TV shows, not the actual philosophy.

It was fun talking to you, but this has been going on for too long already. Have other stuff to do, so let's stop here.

>>42355184
>pasty fat legs
>basement dweller living in fucking darkness
>Nazi fetishist
Called you out big time. Lmao.

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and based on the shirt that our friend >>42355005 is wearing, heres the most successful canadian bodybuilder ever, Roy callender. he wasn't born in canada, but he's a canadian citizen, regardless of his birthplace or race. i wonder if that upsets >>42355184 with his fat thighs and shit tier calves. straight up kill yourself friend.

>>42354879
Kek, you're DYEL as fuck lefty-anon if your arm is any indication about the rest of your body.
>>42354955
lol, nice lies. This guy is a shitskin who won't stop lying btw. He never posted his body like he claims to, he only posted his Pajeet face.

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>>42355184
>Depends on the context, as I've been saying the entire time.

There's that back-peddling again. "He lacks the mental fortitude to not cheat on his wife"
That's what you said.

>No, he did not
He absolutely did and it's been noted in multiple sources. Da joos did it is not an argument.

>Of course it does, you were just pretending Jews don't hold great influence and that they don't start wars. They have a long history of starting great wars, even all the way back to the medieval times.
I never denied that. It doesn't mean Hitler didn't go full retard when he attacked Poland and again when he attacked the USSR.

> The German citizens loved National Socialism, absolutely adored it and for very good reasons.
Where are those sources? I'm still waiting.

>Anyway, here's my legs since you were the only one to post a pic so far.
I posted upper body too, son. Now lets see yours.

>It was fun talking to you, but this has been going on for too long already. Have other stuff to do, so let's stop here.
Yeah, bro. We can all see your bf% is high. Just admit you won't take a pic with good lighting because of that.

Here's another one of mine just to motivate you.

>>42355215
12% bodyfat, that's muscle on the legs, not fat. Very bad lighting.
Also "hurr you don't have a tan xD" is not any kind of argument.
Lmao.

>>42355231
Jesus those thighs. Roy's our boy.

>>42355241
Never claimed otherwise. I am just starting out. Nazi Anon refused to post body until other people did, so I did. It probably burns his ass to see that I have a beautiful blonde baby while he jerks off at his parents house, alone, dreaming of Hitler.

>>42355184
>>42355241
>lol, nice lies
THICCCCCCC
Don't worry baby i'll look after you , post more pics of that booty

>>42355272
>12% bodyfat
>>42355184
This fatass is 12% bodyfat in current fit.

>>42355005
>>42355261
>There's that back-peddling again. "He lacks the mental fortitude to not cheat on his wife"
That's what you said.
Yes, because cheating is different than having a concubine.

>He absolutely did and it's been noted in multiple sources.
Wrong, there is no text from him or audio of him claiming that. Literally 100% Jewish propaganda and distortion of the ideal.

>Where are those sources? I'm still waiting.
Go educate yourself on the Third Reich in general, you have so much to learn about it that it can't be fixed in one sitting. It will take you months to learn properly what it was like.

>Yeah, bro. We can all see your bf% is high.
Not that high, 12%.
>Just admit you won't take a pic with good lighting because of that.
Why would I admit to a lie you just made up? I literally can not take a photo with good lighting at my house. I'd have to take a picture at the gym next time or something.

Also, you have gynecomastia from steroid use. Don't you think it's a bit pathetic to pretend to be natty so you can use that as some kind of "argument defeater"? A steroid user vs a natty in a current body competition, it's pretty obvious which one will win.
Not that there's anything wrong with steroids, I will hop on gear at some point just like you. We're done here, you're dishonest and pointlessly rude and stubborn.

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Spookposter confirming my DYEL status.

I can't NOT rise to a challenge.

>>42355261
MIRIN HARD

>>42355184

Fell for two SS memes.

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>>42355356
>Yes, because cheating is different than having a concubine.
Why?

>Wrong, there is no text from him or audio of him claiming that. Literally 100% Jewish propaganda and distortion of the ideal.
What is the "Aryan Herrenvolk" then?

>Go educate yourself on the Third Reich in general
I've been educated. If you want to prove me wrong you're gonna have to come up with some sources.

>Not that high, 12%.
Lmao.

> literally can not take a photo with good lighting at my hous
Why? You don't have lights at your house or something? Do you live in a shack or a trailer?

>Also, you have gynecomastia from steroid use.
No, I don't. I'm natty. Having puffy nipples is not gyno.

Here's a back pic for ya. Maybe it will spurr you on.

>>42355282
>>42355297
>>42355330
Wow, it's almost like lighting can make the difference between seeing just a silhouette or detailed striations of muscles. Who would have thought?

I can't do anything about the poor quality pic and lighting right now, but it's a fact that my bodyfat % is about 12%, and what you see on the legs there is muscle.
If you are not willfully pretending to be stupid, you should be able to see I have a decent amount of muscle in my quads.

Now let's see you guys' legs. You have been running your mouths this entire time but too afraid to post yours, something I at least did. Yeah I don't have as much muscle on them as the steroid user with the Orobouros tattoo, but I probably have more than any of you leftycucks.

>>42355356
>Also, you have gynecomastia from steroid use. Don't you think it's a bit pathetic to pretend to be natty so you can use that as some kind of "argument defeater"? A steroid user vs a natty in a current body competition, it's pretty obvious which one will win.
This is biggest case of cope i've ever seen.

>>42347067
Throwing my vote in with zane.

>>42355440
You don't have puffy nipples, you have gyno. Don't think I can't tell.
>What is the "Aryan Herrenvolk" then?
An ideal to strive towards.
>I've been educated. If you want to prove me wrong you're gonna have to come up with some sources.
Lmao, you're the one who needs sources. You've been making insane claims the entire time with zero proof for any of them.
>Lmao.
What is bad lighting. It's 12%.
>Why? You don't have lights at your house or something?
I already told you, not near the mirrors.

I don't need "motivation images" from a steroid user. Nor was there any point in comparing CB pics between a natty and a gear user. Pretty pathetic behavior of you to be honest.

>>42355441
You're pathetic man, I legit hope you are a teen and you will grow out of this phase if you are actually 26 I don't know what to say, guess the world needs it's McDs servers.

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>>42355356
>naziboo gets called out on his shit tier physique by someone with more test that he'll ever have
>posts pale ass legs with zero calves, no upper body to be seen
> "oh y-yeah? w-well i think you're on steroids, so a-actually..."

holy fuck, this was a fun thread. literally kill yourself.

>>42355356
>be ghost white fat gymcel
>live in parent's basement with no access to fucking light
>mid-20s, but single and getting older
>angry at Jews, people with different opinions, and anyone more fit than him
>infatuated with Hitler
It checks out.

>>42355442
This is the biggest case of Down Syndrome I have ever seen.
He very obviously has gyno from steroids, Jesus fuck when will summer be over. If you can not recognize something like that then why are you even here?

>>42355506
>when will summer be over.
I ask myself that question every time I read your autistic posts.

>>42355482
>You don't have puffy nipples, you have gyno. Don't think I can't tell.
You obviously can't.

>An ideal to strive towards.
Yes, an ideal for a white master race. That's what Aryan Herrenvolk literally means.

>Lmao, you're the one who needs sources. You've been making insane claims the entire time with zero proof for any of them.
Insane claims that are widely accepted except by larping nazis on 4chan.

>What is bad lighting. It's 12%.
So you're trying to convince me you don't have a single good pic of yourself? I'm not buying it.

>I already told you, not near the mirrors.
It's not supposed to be near the mirror. None of mine are. The upper body ones are from window light ffs.

>he's bigger than me so he must be a roider
Pathetic. I'm not even that big or lean.

>>42355489
You're pathetic, I don't see you posting your body.
>>42355491
>someone with more test that he'll ever have
Gee, he has more test because he injects it every few days? Wow! How shocking!
>posts pale ass legs with zero calves
Nothing wrong with being pale. A tan is actually bad for your skin. And I have more calves than you, you are afraid to post any pictures of yourself.
Take a noose and hang yourself loser.
>>42355493
>fat
Not fat, have slightly visible abs, around 12% bf.
You're also plain stupid if you can't tell steroid induced gynecomastia on someone. The guy is clearly not natty, and you're clearly new here.
But nice fantasy there cuck boy. Where's your body pic? Oh that's right, you didn't post it because you have way less muscle than I do. Just like a typical leftist. Checks out.

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>>42347067
this IFBB pro

>>42355532
>You obviously can't.
I obviously can.
>Pathetic. I'm not even that big or lean.
Agreed, yet you clearly are on steroids, since you do have gyno.
I have nothing against steroid users who have the balls to admit and own it, but you're pretty beta to deny it on an anonymous board when it's completely obvious. You don't have puffy nipples, you have gynecomastia.

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>>42355560
>>42355532
Entire interaction reminds me of this honestly.

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>>42355593
>I obviously can.
No. Pic related is what gyno looks like.

>Agreed, yet you clearly are on steroids, since you do have gyno.
Except I don't have it and you can get gyno without roiding. I know a kid who doesn't even lift and he got gyno from eating to much chicken, according to his doctor.

And don't think I haven't noticed you failing to retort or rebuke any of my arguments. Concede and walk away with a shred of pride.

>>42355184
How do you have zero calf development? Do you even walk? Or just roll up to the squat rack in a wheelchair, rep out, and walk on your hands to the exit?
I don't understand your drumsticks Herr /fit/izen

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>>42355560
show us the abs then. come on, the guys who's been kicking your ass this whole thread is in fantastic shape, natty or not is beside the point, until you show us that upper body then i'm going to assume that even if you took gear you wouldnt be as strong or look as good as him. also here's Samir Bannout to keep things on track

>>42355184
>this is what your average pasty poltard looks like

You lot are literally bottom tier whites riding on the coat tails of brilliant white men of the past

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Poor guy's probably doing pushups for a pump and looking for the best place for anabolic lighting in his house right now.

>>42355727
The guy looks better than me even at 61 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_BKtZ4KDRs
Juice or no juice mad respect for sticking to the game for so long.

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>>42351619
He had been training for 12 years, I think, when that picture was taken. I think he would hop on a little Dbol and Test for a few weeks before a contest and that was it...so...almost achievable natty. Look at him closely, though. He under-developed certain muscles to make others look bigger, like an optical illusion. Steve still looked amazing, though

>>42355809
You fucking idiot, Nazibro looks better than frank zane frank there clearly is 13% bfat meanwhile he is 12% if he had good lighting he would look bigger than that gyno filled frank.

>>42355560
I'm dying. Just walk away, man. Your ass has got to be bleeding by now.

>>42355847
Honestly I was really annoyed at the derailing of the thread (>>42354902 was me)
but nazifag is getting assblasted into orbit, it's morbidly entertaining.

>>42355184

you fucked up

>>42355560
>A tan is actually bad for your skin
>But nice fantasy there cuck boy
>Oh that's right, you didn't post it because you have way less muscle than I do. Just like a typical leftist

at this point I'll assume everything you say is just factually incorrect

also you know, everyone was black at one point right? The melanin adaptation only disappeared as we went into colder regions.

>>42355908
>also you know, everyone was black at one point right?

I'm the ouroboros guy but that's not exactly true. New discoveries have shown that there were proto-humans on the Balkans 7.2 million years ago.

A tan isn't unhealthy, however.

>>42355898

Fucking kek'd at "steroid monsters in man thongs"

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>>42355593

>you clearly are on steroids, since you do have gyno

I had gyno and never roided. was just a fat fuck with an overload of estrogen during puberty. had surgery to remove it.

At some point you have to leave national socialism behind. Not it's principles though. For me, I'm building a small gang(12-15) of men and basically were all 14/88ers but we prefer the small tribal atmosphere over a shit load of people, because we value the tight knit brotherhood. We're formatting ourselves like RAM (rise above movement)

So basically, everyone here is a cuck besides me

>>42355938
thanks science guy, love you

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alright since nazibro isnt posting his shredded, gyno free 12% beautiful pale torso, i'm going to try for the last time to ressurect this thread with some greats from the 80's starting with good ol bob paris

>>42355261
Imagine being a shitskin spending all day on 4chan doing shabbos goyim duty for his kike slavemasters.

>>42356053
Stfu you assblasted cuck.

>>42355942
Thanks m8. Honestly when you thibk about it is ridiculous. But oddly inspiring
>everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights

>>42356073
I love you too bby.

>>42356086
The fuck does that even mean? I'm white and I don't like kikes.

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following up with bertil fox looking a lot like denzel washinton for some reason

>>42356086
Did you find good lighting yet?

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>>42355560

> tan is actually bad for your skin

nazis and earlier german body and youth movements loved a tan, because it showed that you are outdoors, healthy, exposed to the sun, bursting with vitality,...in contrast with a sickly pale, bookish, indoors sedentary lifestyle, which they (rightly) despised.

>>42356112
Holy shit I legit thought that was Denzel.

and finishing with Albert Beckles, Mohammed Makkawy and Rich Gaspari. thats my last contribution for now to this shitshow, god bless everyone

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Am I still the only guy here who mires Big Lou?

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anyway, this thread is just one massive cope.

HFF > everything

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>>42356136
fuck forgot the pic

>>42356142
nope, lou is what every lanklet should aspire to. could have crushed the olympia for years if he hadn't stopped when arnold did.

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>>42356158
Yeah, Arnold really got in his head. Lou could have been the GOAT.

>>42356150
His face isn't even that good.

>>42356230
It is good, hell, it's very good, but it's also super generic. I can see why he's a model but I don't get why he's such a big deal compared to others.

>>42356142
As a lanklet he's my hero. He's also a pretty big name among normies because of the Incredible Hulk.

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>>42356230
>>42356280

quit coping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ain288biQ

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bumping this weird thread

>>42356397
He looks better than me but I still don't get the hype. I hate you lookism fags
Maybe I don't get it because I'm a straight male. He just looks another one direction kid. I think there are better looking male models. Granted I don't know their names, but I don't know any models names.

>>42353343
That is absolutely fantastic

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>>42356495

>He looks better than me

no shit. no amount of pump, biceps girth, plates you can deadlift,... will ever make you look better than him.

fun fact; he lifted for a mere three months before he was told by his modeling agency to stop because he was getting too big. that's how genetically superior he is. there is nothing you could ever do that would make you more desirable than him.

>>42356121
I'm not him just confused as to why you enjoy jewish dick so much.

>>42356665
If the left guy removed his glasses and grew a beard he'd look pretty good with that body.

>>42356665
And why would I care? There's 4 billion women out there. And I'm an above average male, why would I care about this one handsome celeb? I really don't get you /r9k/ dudes who just celebrity worship and put down everyone else and themselves. What kind of mental cuckoldry is that?
>wahhh I wasn't born a millionaire so why even try to make money?
You never even answered my question, why is he more popular than other models?

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>>42356666
not that guy but i dislike (((the tribe))) intensely, namely for what they've done to expression and art in the modern age. however derailing a thread about bodybuilding(which i love) to be a sperg and suck hitlers micro dick is a greater short term offense, and worthy of immediate derision. anyways have some frank zane, a kyke who looked better than anyone in this thread ever will.

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>>42356746

>why is he more popular than other models?

because he is considered more attractive than other models I suppose. he has the perfect looks mix of cute and masculine.

anyway, I don't even visit r9k, just developed a fascination with the incel phenomenon and felt like shitposting a bit.

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>>42356860
Eh I guess I could see the appeal.
I just hate the defeatist attitude that's been all over /fit/ lately. I hope it's just summer, I'm pretty sick of
>face height frame Chad incel cope canthal tilt
Bullshit.
None of these people want to be sicc kunts, they just want to wallow in being sad cunts.

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>>42356121

>>42356930

Some of the Chad etc. posting is funny but some of these people actually believe that shit. Wish I had a screenshot of the thread about taint length being the true determining value of your worth as a man.

>None of these people want to be sicc kunts, they just want to wallow in being sad cunts.

too true anon

>>42350405
Why are you looking at his dick?

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>>42356930

yea I know. still, pic related is just doomed. I can understand why someone like him would wallow.

>>42352299
Only on /fit/ will you find people complaining about one of the most aesthetic bodybuilders of all time being a wristlet

>>42350681
>achieving peak physical performance among other things.
I wonder why this was so important to them.

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Lets get this thread away from nazism and back to golden era bodybuilding

>>42353909
>le /pol/ bogeyman

>>42353909
>containment board
>can't stop thinking about it

What did the libcuck mean by this?

>>42353494

Polygamy is okay if you are a guy.

Don't forget. Men can leave like 10 women pregnant a day. Thats how natures intends.

Back in stone age, alpha guys had plenty of women while beta had zero.

What are some of the best looking ~5'6 golden era bodybuilders?

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RARE

>>42358337
>>42358424
>boogeyman
>edgy tards who filtered in from the election assume Trump and Hitler are the only memes on 4chan
>disseminate into the rest of the boards
>literally cannot NOT talk about Hitler did nothing wrong or Trump
Seriously, every motivational thread, every humor thread, every goddamn waifu thread (as much as those are cancer on their own) you can count on 2 to 3 newfag stormfags coming in and shitting it up within 20 posts.
It's not a boogeyman, it's an incredibly annoying fact of life at this point. We were trying to talk about giant shredded dudes in banana hammocks but you couldn't holster your goddamn political autism enough to tab over to/pol/ and shit all over the floor there.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR POLITICAL OPINIONS WE ONLY CARE ABOUT FITNESS AND NICE GLUTES, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>>42359096
Perfect

>>42359205
Nice try jew

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>>42353909
Getting /fit/ eventually leads to going /pol/. It's the natural order of things.

>>42359204
>forever a boy

will they ever learn?

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>>42359306
This anon is right. Most brawny badass men progress to far right ideologies eventually. Only non whites will remain buttbuddies with marxism because they understand it is they're only tool in attaining false equality with THE IMAGE OF GOD. Ie. The white man

Itt. Delusional shitskins & cucks defending they're wives Bulls

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahagah *breathes in* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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>>42359523

Nothing says ubermensch like adhering to an ideology where literally the only thing you need to be a part of it is having the right skin color

>>42349528
love franco's physique but apparently he was a real cunt so fuck him

>>42359663
I don't even sympathize with Nazis but you have a preschool understanding of what Nazism was.

>>42359792
Tell that to neo nazis then, not me

>>42359824
You wouldn't know a true nazi if one punched you in the face.

What you call "neo-nazis" are just white trash gangbangers. The lowest of the lowest tier. The flashy, trashy distractions that keep the real deal off the frontlines.

>>42359867
Why the fuck would it matter if they're "true" nazis or not if they refer to themselves as nazis?

>>42360046
I don't know, it works for Muslims.