Do these still count as bench pressing or are they just a meme?

>>42345537
Meme

replacement? no.
assistance lift? yes

Not a replacement, but a great way to do is work. I always incline on the Smith machine as my last chest day exercise to get a little extra targeted pec burn.

>>42345537
Throw on 50lbs over your max weight at least at the end of your chest sets for max burn.

>>42345537
I actually use this instead of benching. I can feel more on my chests and less on the shoulders.

I dont need to care about the stabilizing muscles because I overhead press and front squat already.