ENOUGH IS ENOUGH I have HAD IT with these motherfucking back

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>>42315002
>uneven plates

>people squat so much more than I do that they need spotters
>it bothers me and I'm gonna pretend it's because it looks gay
waah

>>42315002
Is this a troll post?

>>42315029
Noone needs a spotter on a squat because the spotter can't do anything to keep the bar from falling. Use safetys and learn how to bail

>>42315002
>>42315041
You guys are obviously new. The spotter pulls the bar from your back to allow you to drop it properly in the event of overbalancing forward in the hole.

Lurk moar

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It does NOT look super gay

>>42315002
you are correct that 2 spotters, on each plate end is safer.

but what if you only have one spotter available?

>>42315093
Power rack with safetys. Or just get gud

>>42315093
Then they'd pull the bar from your back when you needed to drop it without it scraping a nice bloody scratch down your back, or worse, before you topple forward.

Spotters are basically not required for high bar if you have safeties or bumper plates - the bar is easy to drop. If you topple forward at the bottom of a low bar squat with no safeties or spotter then you're fucked.

>>42315093
>but what if you only have one spotter available?
use a power rack or don't squat until you learn to fail it properly. it's not rocket science
https://youtu.be/BqP7y9nIuME?t=32

>>42315149
That's a high bar squat. If that was low bar he'd need safeties or a spotter. Stop talking shit before some newfag tries what you suggest on SS and breaks his neck.

>>42315149
>don't squat until you learn to fail it properly. it's not rocket science
how do i learn, without doing
sounds like rocket appliances to me

>>42315225
Low bar is bad form.

>>42315225
is switching to highbar until gaining access to a power rack or multiple spotters such impossible feat?

>>42315265
Tell that to the thousands of people who got stronger than you by doing low bar and take your weakfag elitism to a crossfit forum or something lmao

>>42315307
As long as you're careful, low bar with no spotter or safety is ok, but the risk is there. It is possible to drop it but it hurts and if you topple forward you're going to get crushed. If you don't think you can get another rep, don't try it. I squatted low bar in my garage on SS and got up to 160kg 3x5 until I joined a gym. Never had to drop it because I didn't get stupid with it. I'd suggest never ever attempting a 1RM without safeties or a spotter if you do low bar.

If you're gonna train low bar without safeties you need to really work on your bracing and core strength so you don't good morning heavy weights.
If you can maintain an upright torso you can dump the weight behind you.

>>42315365
Your torso angle isn't really your choice with low bar to any great extent. Your body proportions are going to make that decision for you.

>>42315002
I squat 550 and I prefer to have a spotter, faggot.

You ever heard of forced reps, you dyel dumb fuck.

>>42315384
I know, and there's extreme cases like Layne Norton, but a lot of the low bar squatters I see change their torso angle (and hip position) as soon as they come out of the hole because of poor technique. If they can keep it upright on the way down it should look the same on the way up.

>>42315393
>You ever heard of forced reps
they're retarded, on par with muscle confusion etc. e.g.:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17685709
considering you squat 550 despite incorporating such broscience into your workouts, it's obvious you roid

>>42315441
Yeah I have the same problem when I get careless. Hips shoot up, back does the work. I never know when to quit and desire for PR sets makes me shoot my hips up to remove my tiring quads from the equation somewhat.

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>>42315447
>he's stronger than me so he must roid
Typical beta mentality.

We're talking about muscle growth, not strength, you dumb newfaggot. Pic related one of the main proponents of negatives and forced reps. >>42315447
>he's stronger than me so he must roid
Typical beta mentality.

We're talking about muscle growth, not strength, you dumb newfaggot. Pic related one of the main proponents of negatives and forced reps.

>>42315626
Hmm, chicken legs ...

>>42315626
>starts to brag about his alleged squat numbers without any mention of muscle growth, in a thread without any mention of muscle growth
>We're talking about muscle growth, not strength
you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
>he's stronger than me so he must roid
natty people who squat 550 while following retarded broscience are impossibly rare, even more so on a website mostly about Chinese cartoons
>Pic related one of the main proponents of negatives and forced reps.
>posts someone with grams of testosterone in his body
ironic

>>42315447
You are like a catty fucking woman. "Oh you lift differently than me and succede, OBVIOUSLY steroids/genetics/ect"

Its never "Oh maybe your method works, your getting good results, or maybe even multitudes of different methods work"


Anyway give this a read

http://mythicalstrength.blogspot.com/2013/07/maybe-its-me.html

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>>42315685
The study you posted was specifically about strength, not muscle growth, retard. If you had been lifting for more than 3 months you would have known those were two different things.
>natty people who squat 550 while following retarded broscience are impossibly rare
Spoiler: forced reps are not broscience.
>posts someone with grams of testosterone in his body
You could take 5 times the amount of gear he did and you'll never look like him. His biggest cycle was 1000mg of test, 500mg deca, 50mg dbol ED and HGH. That's super mild compared to modern day pros. Even instagram faggots take more than this now.

>>42315697
>>42315447


Also the study you linked is shit. The forced reps could have built more strength that was simply hidden by fatigue, as they only tested short term strength gains, which are essentially just skill gains

Low bar squat isn't even a squat. It's a weird half squat, half good morning, your back ends up doing most of the work not your legs

low bar is literally cheating for fat powerfags to feel stronk

People at my gym only ask me to spot their Squat once. I don't hug them on the way down so they think I'm not doing it properly. Read the squat section of SS.

>the spotter spots the bar, not the lifter
>in the event the lifter needs assistance, the spotter lifts the bar to help reduce the weight so the lifter can stand back up
>the spotter then walks the lifter back into the rack and guides the bar into the hooks

not only is spotting their body pretty fucking gay, it is also much less effective. The principal is the same as the bench press. You don't need to be able to row the entire weight from their chest they fail a bench attempt, you just need to lift enough for them to lock it out and return it to the rack. Ideally you have 3 people to spot a heavy Squat, and none of them touch the lifter. But hey if you guys wanna bear hug sweaty men then go for it.

>>42315730
>The study you posted was specifically about strength, not muscle growth, retard. If you had been lifting for more than 3 months you would have known those were two different things.
you don't say. learn to read, no one was talking about muscle growth, but apparently posting alleged squat numbers refers to muscle growth for you.
>You could take 5 times the amount of gear he did and you'll never look like him. His biggest cycle was 1000mg of test, 500mg deca, 50mg dbol ED and HGH. That's super mild compared to modern day pros. Even instagram faggots take more than this now.
because pro bodybuilders are always so honest about their steroid usage? but ok, lets say that's correct, Mr steroid specialist

>>42315783
>Not fucking your gymbuddy for gains

Never gonna make it.

>>42315064
>The spotter pulls the bar from your back to allow you to drop it properly in the event of overbalancing forward in the hole.
literally none of that is true

>>42315758
t. Guy who gets mad when low bar squatters shatter his high bar record in 6 months

Take your elitism and continue doing your oh so superior squats. They're all just exercises to meet a certain goal and I never saw anyone with a decent low bar who had underdeveloped quads, or anything in the lower body for that matter.

>>42316283
Read the book

>>42315041
I agree with this

even on max effort at 192kg I could easily just bail the squat and plop it on the floor

I was using bumper plates though so they are designed to fall like that

dont do that shit with metal plates kids

>>42317117
You've obviously never fallen forward during a low bar squat. It ain't fun. It's either round your back and wrench it up horribly or let it crush you.

Fucking powerfats i swear

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>>42315265
And here we go again

>>42316283
That's one way of spotting. The other is to grab the chest to prevent back snapping and then help you squat it back up.

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>>42315225
>That's a high bar squat
>bar is clearly resting on his posterior deltoids
hmm... really jogs my melons

>>42315225
If that's high bar it's a shitty high bar, his torso is bent so far down wtf

>>42317957
Em

No

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>>42315786
>talking about heavy muscle building exercise
>no one was talking about muscle growth
hmmm

>because pro bodybuilders are always so honest about their steroid usage?
He said this long after he retired from bodybuilding. The topic of the conversation was how much more shit modern guys use. He had no reason to lie.

>>42317913
Grab the chest LOL. Do you even squat, bro?

The spotter is there for two reasons. First, to scream motivation into your ear to get you hyped and force more adrenaline production during the lift. And second, in the event you start to fail, the spotter will make a fist, extending only the thumb and give a quick, sharp goose to the lifters anus. This causes the lifter's autonomic nervous system to react and drive the lifter up. It's Newton's Third Law.

It's all in the NASM manual, you pathetic bioscientists.