/fat/ - "why did i have to make this thread?" Edition

@apple
275.1
Had a vasectomy last week and haven't been able to exercise yet so I decided to cut my calorie intake to the bare minimum for my protein for the week(~1400 cal, 200g). I'll be going back to a more reasonable number now that I can move around more.

fat fucks

@apple

166.4lbs
Not sure if I update now since I'm in for the August competition but extra accountability never hurt

>>42305511
Yeah we are and we're trying to improve

>tfw you have enough muscle mass to be sexy af but you also have a thick, spongy layer of fat covering the muscles

idfc i'm eating a bag of chips and downing it with iced tea tonight

somebody stop me

>>42305578
noone will ever love you if you are fat

WHY DO I WEIGH MORE???

>>42305618
not like people loved me when I wasn't, just a couple years ago. And I am not "fat" anymore, made it to normal BMI. Just shedding off the last ten pounds.

>>42305578
Chips are ok if it's a little bag, but dont drink your calorie it's dumb as fuck and it's not even that good

>>42305631
do it then you average skinnyfat faggot. I don't give a fuck about you
>not like people loved me when I wasn't
imagine being this pathetic

>>42305621
>water weight : high sodium, high carbs, menses
>lack of bowel movement : mass buildup
>are the circumstances since last weigh-in the same? naked, or with same amount of clothing?

>>42305578
Fat fuck

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>>42305304

Confess!!

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This morning I stepped on my scale and realised I have lost a bit over 50lb since I started CICO 4 months ago. I have still got a lot to go but this one a nice reminder that I'm not beyond redemption.

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>>42305621
I feel you.

Eating 1100cal on off days & 1300 on lifting days and doing 30-40mins cardio on off days and still stagnating. Come on body you don't need this fat let it go

>>42305707
Damn that's a serious cut. What do you eat and how do you maintain it? I'm eating around 2000cal.
>>42305654
>mfw the weight increase was shit

Last July-Nov I had lost 40 pounds just by changing my diet. The holiday hit and I sort of went nuts with the food and up until now I am certain I gained 20 back. How do you guys get the motivation to get back on the horse?

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Went from 215 to 177. 17 more pounds to go lads.

>>42305574
This is me

Can't stop drinking beer so never reveal sexy underflab

Got home from vacation yesterday and I'm happy to say that I didn't put on any extra pounds. Good feels all around.

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>>42305747
>I didn't put on any extra pounds
Give it a couple days, what goes around comes around.

I'm never gonna make it

>>42305764
How does it feel being a retard?

>>42305803
Blissful

Someone two threads ago asked me to reply back with the results of my Army weight and tape.

27 y/o, 67 inches, 173lbs, 19% body fat. I ended up passing. I'm allowed 169lbs, if over then I get taped which resulted in 19% body fat by Army standards. I'm allowed to be up to 22% body fat. My goal is still to get back down to 150lbs.

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>need to cut ~10lbs to have decently defined abs/muscle
>only have 2 weeks to do it (trying to cut for a big event)
>tfw


am i going to make it?

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>>42305722
I'm 5'11'' 166lb (poppy) so maintenance is pretty low already I think.
Eat the same pretty much every day since I'm too lazy to have variation;

breakfast - 2 eggs, greek yogurt & protein bar
lunch - greek yogurt or canned tuna
dinner - salmon & lentils

biggest meal for me is pretty much always breakfast calorie wise since if I just abstain then hunger builds and I overeat later. & salmon and lentils are incredibly filling. Drink black coffee too which is great for appetite.

I just hope I can keep it up, this is the highest weight I've been & I'm determined to not let it become a pattern of gain. Want to get really strong too but with the deficit I'll have to wait for now

@apple

264lb

Gained a few lbs, had a tough week will resume next week..

>>42305304
>275lb, 6'4
>there's so much potential
>all I need is to drop 60lb all over again to be okay looking
I've done it once, I'll do it again bros. I dropped to 185lb and couldn't maintain, which is why I let it go last time. Stupid mentality.

@apple

185 even

>>42305667
As soon has hit double digits yesterday (in kg) i ate 3000 calories in a day and now i feel awful

>>42305986
Whats your goal?

>>42305726
Look in the mirror. Also no one cares or gives any respect to fatfucks, everyone assumes if you look like shit you are probably a shit person.

where's large man ? does he post in here ? I believe in you large man

>>42306005
85-90kg whatever gets rid of my stomach

>>42306030
>everyone assumes if you look like shit you are probably a shit person
It's kinda true, if someone doesn't have the will power and respect to take care of themselves they are more likely to be lazy and selfish.

>>42305873
ya shits easy bro

>>42305667
I had two slices of cheesecake yesterday. God I love cheesecake

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Can please someone give me an example of an intermittent fasting diet for 3.2k calories TDEE?

Can someone please give me an example of carb cycling for 3.2k calories TDEE?

I was going to hire a PT to write a cutting diet for me but I had to spend all my money on my dog because he got hit by a car and now i'll have to do it myself.

>tfw want to ask your crush out but want to lose weight first because you wouldnt date yourself if you were a girl


Fuck

>>42306078
Two slices? Of cheesecake. Better luck next time. "Just one Twix."

>>42306089
3200 TDEE? That's pretty damn high.
Honestly, just see how many hours you can stave off eating your first meal of the day. Usually I can make it to around 1 or 2, which only allows enough time in the day for 2 meals and a small snack.

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>>42306232
6"0, 92kg, 20%. Aiming for -500 calories with 8hr eating window/16hr fast.

When do I work out with IF? Is a post workout meal not the most important meal?

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How am I looking lads?

>>42306269
I usually workout before my last meal.

>>42306269
Not the same guy, but after doing IF for the past 6 months, i dont even notice a difference in training in the morning(fasted) or after my first afternoon meal.

Post workout meal is important, but the overall quality of your diet is even more important in terms of long term weight loss.

Also, 3200 calories seems like its skyhigh for weight loss.
im 6'0 225 pounds, training 5x a week and im cutting at 1900 calories. Granted my job is mostly sedentary, but unless youre doing some back breaking shit 7 times a week, i would suggest you lower your calorie intake significantly.

>>42306297
Fat, but your arms look fairly buff for some reason.

>>42306269
Always calculate TDEE from sedetary, you should be at around 1800kcal with those stats.
Go with 8 hour eating period and 16 hr fast, you work out whenever it fits you and having protein right after workout is a good thing to do.

>>42306297
pretty fat, m8

>>42306323
How much do you think I weigh?

>>42306331
125kg

>>42306331
you look like youre 6'0 250

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>>42306357
close..

117kg

>>42306317
>Always calculate TDEE from sedetary
Why? That would place my TDEE to around 2000, which is a 500 cal difference from my adjusted one.

>>42305572
brah just take it as a lesson as to why you should engorge yourself. its okay to feast once in a while, but dont ever make it a habit. Lift hard today, get some running in, drink water, and eat your fibres.
You can make it.

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What is your food weakness?

For me it's ice cream.

>>42306399
Looks like you have a respectable amount of muscle under that lard. Do a cut to 105kg and youll be poppin nigga

>>42306438
Anything with carbs in it, and bacon lots and lots of raw bacon down my throat...

>>42306422
Because unless you have 8hrs of manual labour 5 times a week and gym 3-4 times then you arent moderately active. Calculators inflate the TDEE by alot with activity levels, going off of sedetary you get the most precise number to work with.

>>42306438
Used to be pasta and fresh bread/bagels. Now all I want to do is eat buckets of veggies.

@Apple

Annie- I'm on vacation and don't have access to a scale so skip me I guess

>>42306438
For me the usual suspects used to be
>ben and jerry's chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream
>cider vinegar crisps (Tyrrell's)
>Caramelized Onions and Comté cheese crisps (a local french brand - I recall Bret's but not sure)
>Goat cheese and Espelette hot pepper crisps from Bret's
>Raspberry/Pear/Apple Cider depending on mood (A selection of Britannic (as in the celtic region of France) brands)
>Cherry Beer ever so often (Kriek)

I used to buy these (all together, or a combination of them depending of budget) and just eat it over the weekend.

@Apple 166.8lbs - Enema

3lbs exactly until I get to my lowest adult weight. Just bought some jeans size UK12/US8 but they are a bit snug. Hopefully in a couple months they won't cut off my blood circulation when I sit down.

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Day 11 of Whole30.

Lost 7 pounds. Bloating has dropped tremendously; whatever was causing inflammation may finally be on its way out.
Sleeping better, probably because I'm not bloated so bad.

Having hunger issues, was told by a fellow Whole30'er that they will pass in a few days.
I'm carb dependant so watching my friends eat pizza and burritos at lunch makes me ultra hungry.

Help me, I'm a few meals away from buying a pizza and bag of burritos.

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>>42306422
That's not me
>>42306457
>>42306314
3200 calories is my TDEE, so my diet would be something like 2700 calories per day

Why would my daily calories be so low for a cutting diet with 20%bf? You're not the first person to tell me to go to 2000~ calories. My gym PT suggested around that much, but if I keep the same amount of protein as my current diet I don't see how that's possible.

I'm keeping my protein intake the same, or at least near what it is already when i'm dieting, I don't want to lose gains

>>42306639
Just go somewhere else during lunch

>>42306639
what's whole30?

>>42306664
But lunch alone is boring, I like chatting with my coworkers.

>>42306650
Weight/height?

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>>42306679
You cut out everything processed and that can cause allergic/inflammatory reactions for 30 days to let your body reset. Then you slowly incorporate foods until you find what agitates your immune system and cut it out.

@apple
Lost a lb, 205 now

>>42306679
>>42306708

This includes:
Anything processed
Milk
Cheese
Legumes (excluding pod type)
Soy
Added sugars (like honey or... sugar)
Carbs (breads, grains, pastas, etc)
Sauces/condiments (spices are your friends now)
theres more detail to it but i cant be assed to look it up right now whole30.com has more.

Its like paleo, but with a few more restrictions.

>>42306708
>>42306759
thanks for the tl;dr
sounds interesting, will probably try it just to experiment, when I am done cutting. I've already ditched or don't eat most of these anyway.

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>tfw get gf
>feels goodman
>get fat
>gf complains
>feels bad man

>>42306438
Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. They look so innocuous. Even little kids eat them. But they're fucking calorie bombs and they're so easy to make, I could eat 500 calories in the next 3 minutes if I wanted to.

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I hit a big milestone today so I want to share a pic of face gains with you. I had some vague idea that my body would look better if I lost weight but I had no idea my face would look so different.

>>42306438
>spaghetti bolognese
>would cook 4 lbs of spaghetti and bolognese sauce with 2 lbs of 80/20 beef
>take both pots to my room and feast throughout the day
>pasta = 3.5k calories
>meat = 3k calories
>plus the tomato sauce


FUCK man, to this day after losing almost 100lbs (94) i still remember how much of that shit i used to eat, and even though i'm disgusted at myself, i still get the mental cravings to do it again every day, it's a constant battle and i'm winning but fuuuuuck

@apple
Down to 122.4 from 123

I wasnt sure if I'm starting this week or next week in the contest, figured I'd post anyway

>>42306952

looks like you aged 5 years

>>42305873
>10lbs in 2 weeks
unhealthy, but doable

>>42307041
I used to make a full 8 portion lasanga and much it down while playing world of warcraft. This was ten years ago. Didnt remember until just now.

>>42307041

>eating 2 lbs of meat and 4 lbs of spagetti in a day

future powerlifter confirmed

>>42306790
They are my weakness, but you don't have to cut them out entirely. They're fairly filling and it's not too difficult to fit one into your macros.

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#apple
people are giving you numbers, let me give you mine
147 we'll call it

>>42305667
Just ate a whole pint of Halo Top

God it feels so good to feel like I'm sinning yet stay within deficit

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>get fit
>get gf
>get fat
>lose gf
>get fit again
>get another gf
>get fat again
>gf voices concerns
>at home trying cloth gf bought a year ago but no longer fits
>hear goku's voice... remember the pain being fat caused. remember all the sleepless nights fapping...now make that your powerrrrr
>reeees
I must lose this weight baaaaa

>>42306438
Pasta
pastries and ice cream do nothing for me, but a big plate of jambalaya fettuccine and I get on my knees to worship

just made a couple cheese and ham toasties
it was really, really nice
I went over the numbers like 4 times because nothing with only 300kcal could be that nice

>>42305511
thanks man

>>42305545
found the reddit summerfag

@apple
271 lbs

this all i need to get into the contest?

>>42307154
what is this post

>>42306438
chips, lately chicharones. i have been doing super well by not buying it and if i feel a craving i drink two large glasses of water. if i feel it still i just go to fucking bed

>>42306297
Fat

>>42307232
Shitposting but still I must lose this fat I gained over the past few years

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Do I ditch my second oldest friend because he now does crossfit?

>>42306438
beer

>>42307329
>tfw drinking beer is the only time I feel emotions
>now that I'm losing weight I can't even enjoy beer properly because I only see "+100 calories" or "+170 calories" with every beer and it gives me anxiety

rip emotions, I guess

I haven't gone to the gym in like three weeks because I've been busy, but I've been keeping my diet up and I've been doing cardio still but you think I might have lost any muscle mass during those weeks I didn't go to the gym?

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>>42305304
>tfw trying to apply conservatism to all parts of my life since I started dieting.
This shit is hard without practice.

>>42307406
>all parts of my life
for what purpose

>>42307351
>only see "+100 calories" or "+170 calories"
it hurts how true this is

>>42307154
Did the bird from sayan 2 gohan vs cell also played in your mind?

>>42305667
I'VE BEEN GOOD FOR TEN DAYS NOW MALUS
I SWEAR TO GOD

>>42307437
because conserving what you have is how you progress in life.

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>>42306438
Burritos/Tacos

The meat and the cheese, lettuce and beans, salsa and guacamole.

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>>42306091
>refuse to get laid because can't honestly look in the mirror and say "I'd do me if I was a girl"

Must we really be so strict without ourselves?

>>42307539
Whatever it takes to make it m8

>>42307494
I know but maybe you are exaggerating

>>42305667
I may or may not be developing an eating disorder.

>>42305667
Yesterday I had a bunch of chips and a pot pie past my calorie limit

>>42307556
But sex can be empowering.

Since I've lost my bloat and dropped a few pounds my wife has been wanting sex more and more.

That is my fuel to keep going. Well.. that and feeling the slack slowly forming in my shirts.

>>42307578
>10 lbs a week

uh

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>>42307595
>But sex can be empowering.

>eating only 860 calories a day
>working out
>weight hasn't gone down all week
Help!

>>42307693
Have you been counting properly? Have you had too much sodium? Are you shitting properly? Have you been weighing yourself under the same time/conditions?

>>42307693
you're either new to working out and storing loads of water in your newly used muscles or you're breaking physics.

>>42307693
How much are you working out?

You might be growing muscles and losing fat. And since muscles weigh more your weight will stay the samw

I've been doing pullups and rows for 3 years now, recently switched to only doing Meadows row for back, and in 3 months my back and lats have exploded.

Can someone plz explain

>>42307709
Yeah I've been counting properly exactly 860 calories. It could be the sodium though I've been using a 0calorie hot sauce to add flavor that has some sodium in it, I think like 5% daily value. I've been shitting once a day. And taking weight at same time after I go to the bathroom first thing in the morning.

>>42307711
Not my first time working about but I did have to stop working out for nearly a year due to injuries from a car accident and just started again. It was a pretty bad car accident.

>>42307729
Been trying to do it everyday but my muscles have been too sore. Original plan was to do weight lifting one day and then cardio the next, I'm hoping once I get more used to working out again I'll be able to stick to it better.

>>42307775
Too little sodium is actually much much worse than too much. If you don't get enough sodium, you'll actually retain water and your blood pressure will increase.

Just aim for the 2500mgs a day, and you'll stop retaining water once your body gets used to it.

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>keep weighing myself
>277
>go off diet
>eat like a pig
>fast for a day
>weigh myself
>277

>>42307799
Okay, thanks anon. I'll pay more attention to my sodium intake and make sure I get enough.

>>42307775
>Not my first time working about but I did have to stop working out for nearly a year due to injuries from a car accident and just started again. It was a pretty bad car accident.

>W A T E R W E I G H T
>A
>T
>E
>R
>W
>E
>I
>G
>H
>T

>>42307800
Your body can only absorb so many calories in a single day the problem is when you do it every day. Get back on your diet. You will weight more than I've ever weight and I'm eating at a 2k calorie deficit.

apple
hellschef
174.3

How much weight can you possibly lose in a month you think?

>>42308225
that depends on your TDEE.

>>42307459
constantly

How do I know when to start a 24 hour period in terms of eating and calories?

I feel like I'm currently locked in this dumbass cycle of feeling like I'm eating normally but, because of that one time I ate a pizza at 4am I'm now, in actual fact, eating over my limit all the time.

Should I fast for 24 hours to reset my cycle?

>>42308257
When do you wake up?
Start then.

>>42308257
16:8 makes it easy

>start uni in september
>still need to lose 24 pounds

can I do it? currently eating at 1600 calories a day

>see cherry coke while buying gas
>give in
>lose all motivation for rest of day

when does this end?

>>42308307
When you start asking yourself whether or not you want the cherry coke more than you want to be healthy and thin.

literally start asking yourself this.

>>42308298
well it's impossible to say unless we know how much you weigh currently, and your height, most likely no though.

>>42308307
When you stop restricting yourself for no reason at all. A single cherry coke shouldn't be enough to drive you into a binge mode unless you hardly ever consume carbs

>>42306089
I know the feel. I was gonna buy a dirtbike but then I had to spend 5K on my dogs back surgery

Worth it tho shes the best thing in my life

>>42308350
189 (from last weigh in about a week ago) and 5'4 manlet

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only target i hit was the fiber lol. should fastmode tomorrow, 1500cal max.

Just ate like 20 nuggets with ranch and 1/3rd of a oreo frozen cream pie dessert cake.

help

>>42308381
Well, it's certainly possible, but you'd probably get pretty sick, realistically it wouldn't be healthy, and chances are you wouldn't be able to. You could realistically lose half that though steadily, and then lose the other half later after entrance

>>42308403
Fucking make yourself vomit you fat cunt.

>>42308403
see
>>42308339

>tfw can't even differentiate between hunger or just cravings
just fuck me up

Also what kind of toppings you get on your food so it doesn't taste like flavorless paper, I like avocado, but fuck it has too much calories.
Mainly eat tuna so you guys know anything that would improve flavor?

>>42308403
Fat cuck, you're never gonna make it

>>42306451
This. Carbs are a drug to me

bread, cereal, pasta...idk what you're on about with raw bacon though that sounds nasty m8

>>42306451
raw bacon? wtf?

what did he mean by this?

>>42307232
every time he gets fit, he gets a girlfriend
by having a girlfriend, he relaxes, and gets fat again
girlfriend leaves him because he's fat, and that makes him get fit again

>fell off the wagon for three weeks
>too afraid to step on the scale

damn it

>>42308405
what do you think the lowest I could go would be? do you think getting down to 175 would be possible?

>>42308474
>>fell off the wagon for three weeks
that's abandoning the wagon.

>>42308298
Depends on your current weight but yes can be done fairly easily

>>42308482
n-not yet

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>>42306438

Mine isn't really a type of food as it tends to be a specific meal.

> Steak (Medium Rare)
> Eggs (Over-easy)
> Hash-browns loaded (Cheese, onions, peppers, etc.)

I could literally eat that every day & be perfectly happy doing so.

so how the fuck do I count chicken breast calories?
I buy my chicken from a mom n pop butcher's shop so I they don't have any labels.
Do I weight it before or after cooking it?
I usually grill it so I guess the calories change if you steam it i.e.

this shit is too hard I will probably stick to canned food tbqh

>>42308532
just weigh it raw - calories don't change, water evaporates

shit's simple

>>42308307
Mindfulness

>>42308532
Holy fuck, if you think weighing raw chicken breast is hard, you're never going to make it.

>>42305667
I ate at grandma's and looked for chocolate to get a single square as dessert.
Instead I found white chocolate Snickers bars. I ate one entirely and I'm keeping the other for next week but I'll cut it in 4 or 5.
It was fucking delicious, by the way. I only looked at the kcal (~250) but I'm sure it's plenty bad overall. I fucking love Snickers and white chocolate, hadn't had either in a while.

>>42308605
>>42308549
i'm dumb but I know now

>>42308605

>weighing chicken breasts
>not eyeballing it based on the original package size

not gonna make it

>>42308617
In case you're as dumb as it seems - cooking things only changes calorie content if you add something to it (like oil when frying). So if you do, even if it seems insignificant, always count everything.

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trigger warning : gross talk about digestive system issues

how do I deal with gas???
Ever since I've been dieting I have been woken up every single morning by gas going through my bowels, sometimes painfully so, and making all kinds of gurgling noises...I'm talking it takes me at least fifteen minutes first thing in the morning to physically make it be passed, just some of it that's built up during the night.
I'm sick of this literal shit, I used to be a bit gassy before that, but only the regular amount, maybe 2-3 farts a day and I was done.
Now it seems like I'm constantly tooting all throughout the day, and I can physically feel gas passing through my tubes all through the day.
I'm not a mouthbreather, don't "eat" air when I breathe, don't chew gum, don't drink carbonated beverages. Where the fuck is it coming from? I don't eat gassy foods like beans, cauliflower/broccoli, eggs...
I've tried charcoal supplements that are supposed to work in 22 days, been taking them for 40 something days, still no results.
Please somebody help, I'm supposed to share my life with someone very soon, I don't want them to think I'm crude because of this...

>>42308692
But you are kinda crude

>>42308692

please go

>>42308625
>eyeballing it based on the original package size
>not just ignoring the weight and eating the whole package in one sitting

never gonna make it

>trigger warning : gross talk about digestive system issues
>how do I deal with gas???

AWWW GROSS MAN, WTF NOW I CAN'T EAT FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH, THANKS

I haven't seen @apple make a comment in a while but I'll keep putting people's weights into the contest sheet until 24:00 GMT today but if he doesn't make an appearance I'm not really up to running the contest myself.

>>42308692
Alright I didn't have anyone to help me and I had this same problem, took me months to figure out. I'll tell you what gives me gas:
Milk, eggs, peanut butter, glucose, whey isolate. I realize I'm an outlier as to just how much I can't eat because of this, but I recommend phasing these out of your diet one at a time for a couple days each to see what helps. Good luck anon.

>>42308779
thank you very much, anon. I am going to get rid of those, but I really don't know how I am going to be able to get my protein without such diversity.
I'll figure something out. Milk and peanut butter were staples. Also am going to try the paleo/whole30 thing some anons mentioned earlier and do that since it seems close to your elimination/reintroduction protocol. Thanks again very much for your pointers, very helpful.

>>42308818
Yeah considering I had to cut ALL of those out of my diet I have to eat a ton of actual meat for my protein. I also shouldn't have said just milk, I have a lactose problem which includes Greek yogurt, most whey protein (didn't know it had lactose in it until recently) etc. Again good luck

>>42308769
Do you have a link to the spreadsheet? I'll promise I'll save it this time.

I'm sure Apple has probably just been busy. If this isn't time consuming to maintain then I would consider helping, having a couple of people would probably be good though.

>>42308889
they never share that link....

>>42308769

put me back in it

touhoufag

heigth 5'11''
starting weight 284 lbs
current weight 262 lbs
goal weight 196 lbs
goal date for 20 lbs loss 28/09/2017

>>42308853
I'll cut all dairy then. Guess it's going to be chicken and tuna for days...

>>42305667
No matter how thin i get, the guy in the mirror will always be a fat fuck

What's a good routine I can do everyday?

I know about the 3 days a week thing but I just want to make fitness an everyday thing now since I've got into the groove of things.

>>42308889
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1caYcqS_Vakx7S86gyXSemoKWFzQi8fOpXA93RxTz_o8/edit?usp=sharing

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>>42305304
> through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedicatio

no needed. in fact if you need those things you will fail long term. just change your diet. carb up, no fat

>>42308493
you'd need a telescope to see the wagon from where you are

>scale today
>200.8

HOLY FUCK ITS HAPPENING REMAIN CALM

T MINUS SEVERAL FUCKING DAYS UNTIL UNDER 200
ITS REALLY FUCKING HAPPENING

WE'RE ALL GONNA FUCKING MAKE IT HOLY SHIT IM GONNA CRY

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>>42305667
Ate half a chicken and a pack of microwave rice and quinoa + a couple apples for desert and I was already close to my calorie limit with just lunch. Went on to have a full dinner + pizza and sweets :( Doing pushups and browsing /fit/ during rests in a desperate attempt to rid myself of the shame and guilt.

>>42308944
not really up on apple's system for adding people but I put your info on the sheet in case there is a slot.

>>42305667
Been drinking 1 litre of coke zero for the last couple of days and probably gonna keep doing it
Not much of a confession I guess, I'm gonna end my cut in a week, although not perfectly I have visible abs, and am gonna start bulking in a few weeks
I give myself this much

>>42309257

it'd be a real shame if coke zero had any calories

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I think I'm developing an eating disorder.

I feel fat even when I eat the tiniest amounts of food. I made a 300 calorie green smoothie (protein powder, avocado, unsweetened almond milk, green veggies) for lunch and I still feel ashamed because I feel it in my stomach.

>>42309257
1 litre a day? don't do that to yourself

>>42305873
keto + IF you'll get there in two weeks easy.

>>42309302
Says that it has 0.2 kcal in 100 ml
It adds up to 2 calories daily

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FORGIVE ME FATHER, FOR I HAVE EXCEEDED MY CALORIE GOAL FOR TODAY

>>42309318
you might want to talk to a therapist about that anon. keep in mind that if the therapist is fat you need to find a new one.

>>42309332
So it's nothing

>>42305873

Do PSMF. You'll make it.

>>42309227

thnks

>>42309257
I heard drinking coke zero and other diet sodas makes one more hungry and more tempted to eat extra calories
is this true?

>>42309363
For me I believe it is true
Not exactly because it makes me more hungry, but more like because I get used to the satisfaction and want more satisfaction from foods, leading to more cravings

Christ, I have the worst fucking headache over my left eye

It's making me eat biscuits because biscuits help the pain go away. I wanna eat so much

send help pls

>>42309557
what

>>42308532
Do you not know the price per lb? Can you not do basic math?

>>42309318
Actual Eating disorder fag here (bulimia), eating anything causes panic, i have it under control atm but yeah, get your shit together before this becomes a life long problem .

>>42309557
Stop eating biscuits fatass

>>42309557
if you cannot stop yourself from eating biscuits, eat a bullet alongside them

>>42309557
jesus, are you the same guy that posted couple threads back about how he can only eat bread because it's the only thing he can stomach when he has though gut churning migraines?
Get it checked faggot, for all we know you have something like an autoimmune disease.
stop eating first and start by removing headache triggers such as light, noise, lack of sleep, etc...

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>>42306438
milk - i can "accidentally" drink a gallon or two in a day and not notice. pic related

peanut butter - pair it with the milk and it's so good

i'm fat as fuck so people look at me weird when i tell them i actually dont like a lot of "unhealthy" foods like chocolate, most candy, etc. i just binge on food that is otherwise healthy if eaten in moderation

>>42308419

Franks red hot or some taco seasoning

literally just put that shit on everything

>>42309655
Nah that ain't me lad
took an ibuprofen and feeling loads better

>>42309653
Bullets don't come in crunchy, chocolate-covered forms, so biscuits one bullet zero

>>42309675
STOPP

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>>42309675
>milk - i can "accidentally" drink a gallon or two in a day and not notice

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>>42309675

goood jahb

I'm like 11 months into losing weight and I still don't have a modicum of moderation
I'm gonna relapse so fucking hard

sup lads, I'm 188cm and been on keto for a week, went from 115 to 111. I know its probably water weight but keto feels fucking amazing. No cravings or anything like that, its great.

>>42309685
another tip from one migraine sufferer to another.
Don't fall for the pharma jew too long, anon.
Using pain relievers regularly has serious side effects, some of which include loss of desired effect, dependancy, increased (yes you read me right) migraines...You're better off with a "sleepy time infusion", a child night light or some candle for lighting in a closed off room, being very undisturbed generally. Try and exercise too, a good stretching session will decrease tension in neck and face area (especially if you have the migraines of the "throbbing/pulsating" kind - not sure what they're called in english), and the rush of endorphin/dopamine will help you feel better for a while (sex/masturbation is good too). Oh and hot shower/hot bath. Superset all of these and you'll be good my nigga.

anyone else here feel as though they have low test, or have symptoms of it?
fat men naturally have lower test but i feel like mine is unusually low (hardly ever have morning wood, low mood, etc)

i'm 5'9 at 230lbs

>>42308692
>trigger warning : gross talk about digestive system issues

hello newfriend, how are you enjoying our little taiwanese nitting community so far ? hope you are having a nice summer.

>>42305667
I weigh 452 lbs but i tell everyone on this board im only 310 ;-;

>>42305667
day 4 of 400mg dnp
feel like death
co-worked commented on my fatigue today, asked if I ate before work
6 more fucking days

>>42309842
>not understanding that the trigger warning was used in an ironic fashion
>being this new

>>42309846
why is it worth lying ? Who do you have to impress here?

>>42309860
honestly, now be honest, how did you feel after taking the first dnp pill, mentally?
i'd love to take DNP but the risks it comes with is too much for me, even when i know i'd be very sensible with it

>>42309879
>not understanding that I was simply acknowledging the ironic triggerwarning with an ironic post
>like I dont know someone posting the ass of a brazilian womens volleyball player is from here

let me guess you have never played 4D chess before ?

>>42308692
You drinking more dairy than usual? Are you taking protein powder before bed?

>>42309904
don't remember, it was years ago
I was well versed in illicit drugs so I had a good foundation of how to acquire the necessary knowledge/help

>>42309917
I'm behind seven proxies, m8.
There's no saying how deep the rabbit hole goes.

>>42309331
Im doing that now.
Ive lost 6 lbs this week, broke right the fk through that plateau.
But now I feel like a dyspeptic loon.
All I think about is food.
I cant move or do anything fun.
Its been 8 days and those lieing bastard ketosticks still dont regester.

Im only 1000 under my TDEE.

Idk how much longer I can go.

I just want to loose weight. Im thinking about just giving up on food and fasting, either that or I need some carbs.
Idgaf about sweets, i havent had any since November. But god damn it i see no one else with evidence that this even makes a difference long term.
Halp

>>42309932
not much really. Over the course of these last three months I've been dieting, I think I've had maybe 200g of dairy a day (either milk, cheese or cottage cheese). I'm not much into dairy I'm pretty sure I had days without eating some, and still felt gassy.
I don't use protein powder as I can get all my protein from food for now (as I'm cutting). Speaking of which, if it's due to dairy, should I get pea protein for when I start my bulk?

>>42309801
i've got bitch tits so i guess my test must be in the negatives

>>42309760
Fuck, keto has made me 10x more hungry.

>>42309765
gr8 advice m8
thanks

>>42309714
>>42309732
I stuck to buying 2 gallons a week since that fits in with my calorie total.

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>cut at pretty big deficit
>weight lifting almost impossible
>running still kind of easy

This normal?

>>42309973
excuse my ignorance then, with summer around the corner I thought I could feed on some newfags. I am deeply sorry to waste your time with a merely 3 dimensional meme attempt.

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>finally started getting mires
>couldn't handle being the center of attension and started binge eating all week

what the actual fuck

why do i want to see myself fail?

how can i get over the fear?

fuck icarus mane

>>42310130
not him but pls waste my time with your meme attempts

>>42305667

Yes, I accidentally ate three snickers bars today and almost drank a six pack of coke. This happened before 11 am.

>>42310029
they do feel nice to cup though

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>go on hike and do some repelling
alright
>go to all-you-can-eat buffet afterwards and end up 600 calories over goal for the day, perhaps more since I was counting generously
not so good

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>>42305667

I'm a fat fuck (539/540lbs) and my fiance and I are working on our weight problem.

You see, I was only 20 years old when I made it to 300 lbs and since then I started gaining and stuffing my fat face in, I didn't know what my problem was until I was told that I have an "eating disorder". Now my weight has gotten dangerous for myself that my Doctor said if I don't do anything about it, I might die before 30 next year.


So i'm doing simple walks around the block with my soon to be wife.

>>42310194
>repelling
I'm sure you must be repelling all kinds of other people with your fat fuck looks, but I assume you meant you were rappeling, as in down a cliff or mountainside.

>>42310256
That's right, I'm dumb as well as fat.

>>42306032
hi, i am large man.

>>42310248
it isnt so bad anon, the hardest step is always starting and accepting that you have a problem. you just always have to remember why you are doing this, whenever you are weak and want to eat something bad remember that it might kill you. this one choclate bar might be the final nail in the coffin, the reason your gf will crie over your dead body, the reason you will never see your kids grow up.

just stay strong and ALWAYS remember why you started, if you have that in your mind you cant be defeated. I only lost 70lbs but I couldve lost way more because it is just a number once you have your mind made up and you know what you are fighting for noone can stop you.

>>42310277
cheer up anon, this was just some healthy bantz. Everyone makes typos/freudian slips. You'll make some brain gains, as well as some body gains if you keep up the good work.
Avoid risky situations where you will make too much choices and end up shortcircuiting your dietary disciplined mentality towards the "fuck it, it's too hard to process, let's just eat" mentality.

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there has to be some kind of mistake here
that is a LOT of chicken for 136kcal
fucking tasty though

>>42310248
Long term fasting. Do it.
You'll die if you eat

>>42310248

Well, at least you've acknowledged the problem and are beginning to work on it. You're eating healthy in addition to walking, right? Remember, diet is key here. Without it, you might as well be doing nothing.

Remember, a year is going to be here whether you want it or not. Where do you want to be when it arrives A fat fuck, or well on your way to being /fit/? It'll be hard, but anything worth having has never came easy.

>>42310344
no protein or carb macros? Is sainsbury really this cucked that they resort to omission tactics by only pushing upfront the ((good)) stats of their food, as in fats which nobody in their right mind should care about?
I think to answer your question, that since only 84% of it is chicken, the rest "onions" and "seasonings" which is virtually nothing calorie wise, it shouldn't be too far fetched.

>>42310381
cool
they're the same price as birdseye chicken chargrills but over 100g extra meat, and fewer calories
plain too, so I can add my own seasoning

Hey guys, so i want to cut fat. I have read that the workout that you do doesnt matter as much as being consistent with dieting.

However some workouts aren't as convenient if youre on a caloric deficiet.

What is the best routine? Full body or body split? 3 times a week or 5 times a week? some shit like Stronglifts wouldnt be good in the long tem if youre trying to cut faT? Helppp

>>42310393
Uhm anon, I think you might have misread the contents of the product, since you're saying "over 100g extra meat". Terrible rookie mistake of thinking each patty is 454g, while it's actually more like 115g? Because it says down there that per 100g is 160cal, so the whole box (454g) is way more than that.

>>42310424
I meant per box
454 > 340

>>42309990
Keto is a meme diet.
I know overweight people who do it, are amazed by the loss, then platue for months and quit.
Its not healthy to have symptoms of the flu from eating habbits.

It can have theraputic effects for some, but for most its just a harder to follow.

Just eat whole foods while on a callorie deficit.
You can make it

>>42310444
I see. Just checking to avoid you making that noob mistake. Really cuckworthy of sainsbury to advertise in big the calorie content per a serving, also some sketchy shit going on
>per burger (cooked as per instructions): 136cal
>per 100g : 160cal
>box has 454g and 4 patties
>each patty must be 113.5g
>160CAL PER 100G
>yet claims per burger cooked is 136cal

sketchy shit I tell you.

>>42310487
yeah that seemed odd
marked it as 181 just to be safe

>>42310516
good looking out. gotta stay on top of ((their)) tricks.

>that feel when skelly
>that feel when doing GOMAD to gain weight
>that feel when I feel like dying every day
If I get through this, there's probably nothing worse that can happen to me in life

>>42310487
is it possible fat or something could drip off the burger as it cooks? regardless use the higher number when in doubt.

Kunf

@apple

206

No progress this week. Probably just cause i ate a lot of sodium last night so I'm retaining water

>>42310538
nah mate, both measurements were made after the same cooking process (both stated as "cooked per instruction"), which means any amount of fat loss was accounted for during the cooking process.

>>42310450
>Its not healthy to have symptoms of the flu from eating habbits.
those are caused by electrolyte deficencies - you can suffer from electrolyte defiiciency even without keto. simply getting the necessary electrolytes in your body, through either diet or supplement, will counteract those flu like symptoms. simple.

>just eat whole foods
i'm eating whole foods while on keto

>>42310558
also might I add, if truely the only ingredients are chicken, onion and "seasonings" (which could be questionable for the latter), then there should be absolutely no fat content/loss as a result of cooking. Now what they entail by seasoning, whether it's spice based purely or oil based condiments can be debated. Being generally dismissive and not upfront about contents by using general terms like "seasonings" is a big red flag.

I feel like I've lost more weight than normal this week already despite not doing more and I'm worried its because I haven't been doing strength training much these last two weeks.

How quickly will one lose muscle mass?

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>only lost 5 pounds this month

I gotta step it up for August

>>42310417
bump

Apparently I can stay in ketosis while eating 20 chicken nuggets from McDonalds if that is the only thing I eat in a day. This is useful.

>>42310417
Any of the above is fine.
I'm on a very steep(~2k) deficit and I find it easier to do a split instead of a 3 day. I have a hard time doing a second session of heavy squats with only one day of rest on such a small number of calories.
That said, it is all about consistency. Just get your fat ass up and moving 5+ days a week. I like to go on hikes on my "rest" days but it really doesn't matter. Just go be active.

@Apple
Oz
173

>>42310450
It's not a meme diet, but it's not magic like everyone thinks.

pork pies are ridiculously dense
but damn tasty

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>wake up today
>golly a spaghetti bolognaise sure sounds swell, this couldn't possibly go wrong
>aldi didn't have low fat mince
>didn't check the label and it expires today
>o-okay then I'll just have half the spaghetti
>O-OKAY then I'll just have half the pasta sauce, wait fuck, now it's basically just mince

It's still recoverable if I do exercise but fuck, no fun allowed

>>42310945
most pathetic cheat day I've ever seen, put some backbone into it next time

how often a day do you think about food?

>>42306952
I was also 230 and i looked about the same. 170 is my target weight. I'm now 220.

How can I help my obese friend lose weight? He's confided in me that he wants to but he's so fucking lazy and dillusioned to even start. I even wrote out some basic diet stuff and made him a youtube playlist full of advice and motivation. Should I just leave him be?

>>42310248
If it makes you feel any better I'm 10lb overweight (195) at 21 and I've never been in a relationship or even kissed a girl

you're doing better than me

toying around with a ketogenic diet
even though I don't believe it'll yield greater results than a normal deficit, I'm getting pretty bored of food, so why not try something new

I have about 2 weeks worth of meals and it's nothing but chicken, tuna, bacon, cheese and eggs

this might be fun

H-Have I transcended? In 4 days I have eaten about 600 calories. today I have only eaten 50 calories and I'm not even hungry. I used to eat 1500 calorie meals and still feel hungry.

>>42311217
Eating that little is ill-advised, for reasons that may or may not apply to you
but why take a chance?

>>42311217
The longer you go without eating, the less the waves of hunger come, until a certain point. So yes, you have, fatty.

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>>42307154
HIT THE GYM NIGGA

>>42306438
Garlic rice. Shit goes well with anything.

>>42307316
Crossfit is a meme, but that is not a good reason to drop your friend. Unless he pushes you to do it too.

>>42311063
have him install the MyPlate app. You might not get your friend to start eating healthy, but your friend will eat less of what he normally eats. He might get a small french fry instead of a large but as long as he eats under the limit to have a calorie deficit, he'll lose weight. Worked for my fat friend.

>>42311284
>HIT THE GYM NIGGA
> NIGGA
> NIGGA

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, back to /pol/

any one else become fat because of overeating caused by emotional problems?

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>>42306438
I fucking love pasta. My last cut was hell because I pretty much made sure not to have any since I knew once I had a taste, I'd want to cook myself up a whole pack of fettucini + use a whole alfredo bottle.

I remember a time when that would be my dinner every other night.

>>42311347
that's how it happens to most i think.

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Well. This is considered a cheat day for me now. Kicked out of ketosis probably. My car has a problem that's gonna cost somewhere around 1700 to fix. Literally want to kill myself right now just due to me not being able to catch a break with anything recently. Just graduated college, girlfriend who I loved more than anything else in this fucking world abandoned me, (which is what kicked off this weight loss business) just turned 24, trying to move out soon while maintaining a pretty shit job, now this happens. I hate playing the "poor me" card, but I'm seriously at wits end here trying to forge a decent life for myself. Hope you guys are doing okay today. Also to the ladies I insulted last thread, I was just joking. Keep up the hard work.

>>42311311
Wait wut

>>42305304
Where do you guys go to get blood work help?

Almost hit my TDEE, shameful day.

@Apple

Curiee

244

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>>42311427
c'mon step it up!

>>42311251
i would rather be dead than fat.

>>42311264
Thx bro.

>>42311515
I wasn't talking about death

>>42311217
You're gonna want to do a slight refeed every couple of weeks. Assuming that you're A) doing a PSMF, and B) capable of doing a refeed without regressing to your old diet habits.

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Post your goal bodies /fat/bros

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>>42311630
yep

>>42311581
>capable of doing a refeed without regressing to your old diet habits.

well I found the trick for me not over eating. I drink a bottle of water before and after my meal. been working so far.

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>>42306704
see
>>42306269

>>42310156
How do you accidentally eat?

>>42311480
Step it up, I'm carb craving and that still looks disgusting.
I want a slice of sourdough with some kerrygold butter annd thick chopped hardneck garlic on top.

oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>42305667
I've been telling myself every day I'll eat healthier, but I don't. I exercise at night and end up regretting the entire day after. Then when I have a bad morning, I'll fuck up the rest of the day saying "you'll start for real tomorrow". I've been saying this for two months.

>started at 120 kg last year
>start losing weight
>"holy shit I'm literally superman I look so good lmao"
>get to 100kg (current)
>mounting horror as I realise I'm still extremely overweight compared to normal people even though from up at 120 I felt like I would be a literal adonis by now

the life of a fat cunt

>>42300424
325.5 Today. V1.5lbs from yesterday, ^0.5lbs from start. Oats, 2 large salads, 2 bananas, 1 apple, dove bar, 2 slices costco pepperoni pizza, and continuing with at least a gallon of water every day.

What is the @apple thing about?

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>Get invited to go out drinking with friends
>have a good time
>Lady with a camera comes to take pictures of people to later get uploaded to social media
>See the picture on social media
>See my massive tits and fat face
>wake up call
The diet starts now and im getting my ass to a gym

>>42307849
>Your body can only absorb so many calories in a single day the problem is when you do it every day

I've heard this multiple times, proof? i think by that logic people would have a 10k calorie cheat day instead of a 3 - 3.5k calorie one, sounds like broscience

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I feel I fucked up /fit/. Here's my progression I've been putting on so much fat since I started eating like a normal person. I have no choice though because I enlisted in the military so I have to eat the shit they serve at the DFAC and I'm in tech school so I never have time to go to the gym like I used too. I did so good. I started on March 10 2016 not September 10 I put the wrong date stamp in the first pic. By September I looked like pic #3. I just took the pic in the bottom right and I I got so fat and I don't know what to do about it to fix it. Advice would be greatly appreciated bros

>>42312034
look at the first one and realise how far you've come

you look like a normal normie in the fourth pic, you've proven to yourself that you can make it to third so just do it again

what is forcing you to eat? are you going to starve to death? if not just don't put it in your mouth

>>42305667
i think it's finally time to indulge in dnp

my mother and grandparents all comment on how thin I am but I don't believe it, not with these hips; i can't sleep, i overeat

I think it's time to just cut food entirely for a minute, i can't deal with this shame and it's self imposed but i'm so close to my goal and with bandcamp right around the corner i'll have the opportunity to show off all of my progress

so why the fuck is the urge to binge and ruin it all so omnipresent??? someone please god, talk me out of this

@Apple

228.8
Looks like I wasn't in a plateau afterall

>>42312034
How the FUCK did you go from pic 1 to pic 3 in 6 months!?

>read online that peanuts are a good source of protein and fiber
>have a small snack before bed
>400+kcal in a tiny amount of nuts
I guess I won't be eating them anymore...

>>42312891
>eats something
>then looks up calories

Not gonna make it

>>42312801
Starvation and constant cardio I was dedicated. I need that spark again in my life but I'm not achieving it I know I'm absolutely capable but I have to want it. I wasnt surrounded by temptations of food like i am now. Its hard man but I need to get back in shape

>>42312973
I was already 600kcal below my normal 1k deficit so I didn't even go over, but It didn't feel good wasting all those calories.

>>42312980
M8 you look great, especially compared to where you started. I get that you want to be hard on yourself though so I get it. You're clearly capable of getting back to where you were, or even better. But don't torture yourself either.

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>>42312034
where the hell is your loose skin?