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>>42299409
>So I took the time when she was sleeping to go through all of her messages from when we weren't together
mirin

trust but verify sounds like a good way to be with women. if it means following them on their nights out to see how drunk they are really getting so bet it. you're onto something don't let them tell you otherwise

clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Is this dosage for a week in mg or every day?

>>42299774
everyday

but dont take the clomid u dont need that shit it has bad sides

>>42299781
running both is usually a good idea for recovery

>>42299833
totally unnecessary

>>42299847
Have you ever done a cycle or PCT?

>>42299968
yes i recovered perfectly well with just nolvadex, some people in /fraud/ didn't even use pct to come off and it went fine. In the r/steroids wiki it even says just nolva is fine for shorter cycles

Has anyone had experience with taking low doses of accutane every day?
How did it go?

Just got done with my 90 minutes of cardio and I look even more shit at 230lbs than I did at 240lbs, god knows why.

Been doing at least an hour of cardio everyday for health and weight loss. It's a long road but it's the right way.

>>42300475
20mg everyday dried me the fuck out and my skin began to flake off like saw dust after I used the hot tub

It didn't do shit for the moderate acne on my face but it did clear up my shoulders and back.

I still have like two hundred pills of it that I'm not ever going to use.

I decided to cut dairy completely. I tried different topical creams like Retin-A and Benzoyl Peroxide and Ketoconazole, my favorite by far is Benzoyl Peroxide 10% gel. It has to be 10% or else it will do jack shit. 10% has reduced my acne so so much. Also washing bed sheets every week (I used to do like every 2 months).

>>42301405
Yeah I was thinking like 5mg per day as I've heard some people get good results with that.
I don't get much acne on my face but I get some on my shoulders and back and occasionally forearms for some reason which scar like a motherfucker.
I'll definitely check out Benzoyl peroxide though.
Thanks m8

My dick started working again and even better than before..I'm not sure how...

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Ligandrol, aka LGD 4033

meme or dream?

I just took 12.5 mg twice in 2 days, am I gonna crash my estro? I'm getting acne and insomnia so I thought I'd up my AI

>>42301653
I'm proud of you anon :)

>>42302084
12.5 mg aromasin*

I got this chick who works at the SPLC wanting to suck my neo nazi cock halfway across the united states

>>42302084
Have you had bloodwork done?
What else are you taking?
Could you post a picture of your glutes (no homo)?

>>42302107
Accidentally posted early

(Cont.) off of pics from when I was natty over a year ago. Once I finish this cut in a month it's gonna be a line to get my dick

>>42299394
I tried the M.E.N.S method:

http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2014/02/22/hakkers-huss-hybrid-h4gs-stack-routine-reverse-engineered/

It didn't work, but to be fair I'm not sure I did it 100% right, but I should have at least grown a little in height. Anyone know of a legal, relatively cheap way to boost my hormones enough to get taller? I haven't been x-rayed, but I'm pretty sure my plates aren't fused so it should be possible.

>>42302112
just ordered some, I was going to do it tomorrow maybe. natty bloods had low estradiol (but also low test)

I'm starting to get acne and I'm taking 3 showers a day, I'll get your pic when next

I'm also taking 50 mg adrol/day and 500 mg Test E/week

>>42302047
>thinking something with cum in the name isn't a meme

>>42302107
uhh okay?

>>42302167
Hgh-secreting peptides are fairly inexpensive.

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>>42302204

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>>42302312

>>42302235
Alright. How can I get those? Do I have to get them prescribed or are they over the counter? I'm from Freedomstan btw.

>>42302167
Just buy HGH loser

how bad is week 1 compared to week 4 of pct?
basic test cycle

Does winny go well with deca? Tempted to add it to my current test/deca/lgd blast, as I heard it can make deca even more effective

>>42302047
LGD is good m8. Needs to be run for 12 weeks though imo. I run it for 8 weeks @10ml pd, then up it to 15mg for the final 4 weeks.

>>42303598
10mg *

>>42303562
Winny stacks well with anything.
As for Deca specific, I can't tell you.

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>>42299394
>Injecting isn't that bad they said
>Hurts like fucking crazy
>Feels like you're getting stabbed from the inside after the injection is over
>Literally pain for the whole time you're injecting

I literally am not physically prepared to do this again. It was one of the most painful experiences of my life.

>inb4 you did it wrong

Watched shitloads of videos and read articles about it before I did it. I injected into my quad and it hurt like fuck.

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Is that moran ranting about being the smartest man on earth for injecting test subq here? Sad I didn't get to make him rage. I always enjoy fucking with him on his twice yearly visits to cry and explain why 98% of the bodybuilding community is somehow wrong.

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>>42299394
have we given up on Bimbo

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>>42303959
pussy

>>42303959
If you knew your shit you would have injected into glutes, you retard

>>42303959
What gauge needle are you pinning with?
I have no issues with 23g into quads
I should probably get some 25's though

>>42303979
I was too scared to do it into my ass by myself because it just felt too tense.

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>>42303979
>tfw started pinning glutes at first
>every time I would get a lump that made my ass look like a female basketball american's ass
>pinned quads
>no issues
glutes are easy as fug though

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Use JCeasears meme torem pct and recover to 201 ng hahaha reddit fags stay supressed

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>>42303989
>too scared to pin in ass
>cries about unbearable pain pinning quads

maybe roids aren't for you friendo

placed an order 2 days ago
is it ok to ask my source if they have shipped it yet?

For cruising: pin once or twice a week?

>>42304548
Sure. You're a paying customer.

>>42304722
Depends on what ester you're using and how you feel. If you feel run down by the end of the week when pinning E7D try twice a week

>>42304722
I prefer twice a week to keep myself feeling better.
I love to pin and pin ed for blasts so it might be between the ears.

>>42304548
Sure man, why not?
I have bothered my source for less.

>>42304722
Twice for more stable bloodlevels.

>>42303959
Quad is the devil.

Pinned once. I fucked it hard, crazy pain for 6-7 hours and leg was out of action for 2 days. Probably shouldn't have opened a virgin site with 2.5ml of tren/test. I am scared to do it again.

>>42303959
I don't feel any pain when I inject into my quads. Don't feel anything really.

Thinking about switching from 300mg Test E E3.5D to 150mg EOD, as well as introducing Tren A at 50mg EOD. Thoughts?

>>42303959
I get crippling pip if i inject too low, try the "upper" quad

>>42305173
upper is like, above the knee? or towards the knee haha

I pinned within a few inches of the knee and had a useless leg for 4 days

>>42305296
there is no way you watched videos or read articles if you did something that retarded

>>42305296
I always pin inside the knee to avoid quad pains

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>>42305321
I went off this photo and but I was 1-1.5" closer to the knee

>>42305364
Might as well pin anywhere randomly at that point.
This seems like such a bad spot.

>>42305364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E__kMjcp0XM

What you should have done.

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>>42305364
This is what i meant

Is 225 mg test E ok for babby's first cycle? Bear in mind I weigh 60kg. People say 300 minimum but I don't think that's for 60kg manlets.

>>42305464
how about you actually start lifting before you pump yourself full of steroids gimli

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>>42303959
I don't understand why people keep saying quad is the devil. Quad is my go to spot to inject and it's not that bad for me. So I'm gonna guess you did something wrong dude.

Anyway how is everyone today? Also is Bimbo dead or what

>>42305454
is this bait?

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enjoying those easy gains? you better...while they last

>>42302047
At that price its a fucking meme, use irc or something, more reasonable priced LGD is good. Stack it with test, have ai because doing so may cause your free test and estrogen to shoot up.

>>42305494
obviously

>>42305510
High chance of this happening without roids, it was his diet if you listened to what he ate.. huge amounts of McDonalds + piling on the sugar multiple times a day for a long period of time.. way too much saturated fat sugar and salt.

Even if you used McDonalds to bulk every day and ate every meal there youd be eating less than he did.

Anyway, roids would have worsened the damage from that severe diet due to their capacity to increase cholesterol etc.

For people who roid.. if they keep their diet reasonable.. check their bp and lipids and its under control, they wont have this problem.

How long does asin+nolva take to fuck off nipple tenderness etc?

>>42305510
Who cares about dying nerd

>Absolute aspie, can't find a reliable source of Test.
>Got caught importing some shit back in the day - all my imports are inspected.
>End up getting a hookup on 1-andro.
>Everything I've read about it seems to be babby level friendly, except for how fucking liver toxic it is.

I can get a full cycle and support for approx $70, should I?

>>42305624
No, LGD is stronger better and not liver toxic.

Find a domestic source for test.

>>42305624
Don't run orals without injecting test as a backer

>>42305778
Issue is I can't get Test or LGD.
There's a guy at my work that sells Prohormones and Prohormone accessories only.
He's the fucking Hank Hill of Prohormones.

I have no social skills so I can't find a fucking supplier, it took me SIX MONTHS to find a fucking weed dealer when I was in high school.

Of all the prohormones he had, 1-Andro seems to be the golden option.

>>42305790
Why? Not being a cunt, just really want to learn.

>>42305840
theres a lot of prohormones/designer steroids with more bang than 1-andro. Anyway, I dont think LGD is illegal to import in most places, what country?

The problem is this - oral steroids/prohormone only cycles make you feel like dogshit and give you depression and anxiety - Ive been there. LGD only you still feel human at least.

There should be a domestic source of test in just about any country.

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>>42303959
That's why I pin in my forearm

Hurts less less risk

>>42305840
>can't get LGD

The reason it's so fucking popular in the first place is because it's legal to sell, easy to use, gives some people okay results, and isn't incredibly toxic. How exactly can you get prohormones but not SARMs?

>>42306102
>SARMS
Man I cant wait for more people to start trying stacking S23 on test. By all accounts it seems pretty nuts, I want to read more experiences on it.

>>42306163
I've been wanting to try stacking shit with that gh one (mk-677 I think?), but I can't really justify the cost at the moment.

>>42306213
Yeah me too, Ive used it once with test, I think my results were due to the appetite increase lol

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>Starting to think I'm ready for a test/tren cycle

>>42306437
>skinnyfat middleaged DYEL
ROIDING FOR THIS

>>42305464
Do 500-600mg a week instead

>>42306437
you are literally just obese

>>42306508
Too fat aye?

That's fine, that office fag lifestyle put some weight on me..

>>42303598
Thanks. Where do you buy it from? From what i can tell sarmsx and sarms1 are the only trust worthy sites

>>42305523
Anything cheaper than like $150 isnt real stuff. I dont want to stack it with real steroids either.

>>42306528
Youre moronic, the raw is $45-$50 for a gram of powder from a reseller, $180 for 300mg is a joke. Go shill elsewhere.

IRC has it and its been well tested. I bought it when ceretropic was selling it too (Solution not raw powder) and that was legit.

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>>42306616
I bought this bottle for about $40-$50 at a reputable nutrition shop in town and I cant find anything about the company online and when I opened a cap to lick up the powder Im pretty sure its just plain corn starch.

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>>42306672
Is the powder form supposed to be completely tasteless like corn starch? The liquid is supposed to taste like ass

Reading up on nolvadex
>Tamoxifen acts as an anti-estrogen (inhibiting agent) in the mammary tissue, but as an estrogen (stimulating agent) in cholesterol metabolism

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8865140
>The beneficial effects of estrogen (LDL cholesterol reduction and HDL cholesterol elevation) are well established

Well shit, I didnt know it was good for cholesterol, I wonder if toremifene does the same

>>42306672
Yes, the majority of the powder in the capsule will be a filler like corn starch or something else. That is how capsules work.
One capsule is supposed to be like 5mg of LGD right? A standard size 0 capsule may hold around 500mg of powder depending on density.

Liquid tastes like ass because of the solvent, mine tastes okay because I use propylene glycol.

>>42301369
ok? dont write that shit here we dont care this is for steroid talk.

also its nothing wrong with looking worse when dropping weight rapidly since blood vessels are making their way through all ur fat thus loosening it up making u look more slobby and soft and fat.

dont drop weight too fast give your skin time to adjust. it takes time but thats the price u got to pay

>>42306522
literally not an excuse, your own shit willpower put that weight on you

>Day 10 of 600mg DNP cycle
>Gained 2kg

What the fuck? This isn't my first cycle and I've been eating at a 500kcal deficit with light exercise 5 days a week.

I've been drinking 2 gallons of water a day though to try and avoid dehydration, how much of this could be water weight?

I've never weighed myself mid-cycle before so I don't know how regular this is for me, anyone else had similar experiences?

How do i go about getting my test levels tested? i don't have a doctor, haven't seen a doctor for over a year since i saw one for a work drug and STD test

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I've been thinking of getting into HGH. I'm 20 and 6'4" 240lbs and have been lifting for roughly 6 years. Should I wait a few more years before trying HGH? Also where would I even obtain it?

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I've been dating this girl for 2 months, but we haven't even done anything physical yet (I'm her first date ever) do you think I can ask her to be my gf ?

>>42307125
Lmao

Jumping on after about a year of lifting get mad faggots lmao

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>>42307129
Don't bully. We always met at really crowded places so far and say goodbye on the train or a busy station.

>>42307112
What are you trying to achieve by taking hgh, it's insanely expensive and doensn't get you any noticable results compared to AAS, imo hgh is useless if you aren't like 40 years old trying to rejuvenate yourself

>>42306860
why the fuck are you drinking that much water

>>42307112
Same place you get your steroids? Although it's so expensive I cant imagine unless your life goal is to be the swolest homeless person in the shelter

>>42306672
I have two mstain unopened bottles. I read the side effects are too bad, I rather pin. Idk what to do with those bottles. I might just hide them and then post the map so someone can find them.

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>>42307125
>I've been dating this girl for 2 months
Fuck off you normie piece of shit

>>42307182
W2c

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>buy new brand of frozen chicken
>it's shit tier

>>42307282
you're on /fraud/ here mate, only swole chads are allowed to participate to the conversation

here's the door :
>>r9k

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>>42307303
Your door is not working

>>42307334
>r9k frogposters pushing on a pull door
kek

>>42307282
I just got engaged after dating a broad for 2 months if it makes you feel better :^)

srs what have I done

>>42307363
Start saving for alimony and child support

I'm going to do a LGD cycle.

What's some affordable and effective on cycle support and PCT?

>>42307363
AGGGGGGGGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You're on the same level as Cucksader

>>42307363
Why did you think it was a good idea? Good luck man, if crusader could return with his gf by doing all that weird pathetic things maybe you could make it work

>>42306437
How long have you been training?

>>42307439
LGD doesn't shut down you LH/FSH so PCT would do more harm than good imo, a lot of people recover fine without pct, but if you had to i would run nolva / clomid for like 2 weeks at half the dosage you would normally take after a classic steroid cycle

>>42307472
Potentially worse, desu

>>42307429
if by that you mean a one-way ticket to thailand to live out the rest of my days in a legal roid haven if things go bad, one step ahead of you

>>42307484
Known her five years and we have history, and fuck it - I'm pushing 30, she's incredible, I'm finally over a year sober, but I mean this is all just trying to justify an extremely questionable decision.

>>42307574
I heard that running a cycle between 10-25mg a day will probably cause at least a partial shut down?

I know it won't aromatize, but I'm concerned about my natural test production/function (hence why I'm not jumping in the deep end).
What does taking too much PCT do?

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it's me >>42295141

Couple of minutes ago i got an idea to try on few older shirts i was wearing before i started pinning my butt. Started with bigger which was kind of loose before and now it's pretty snug but i didn't realize it until i tried smaller shirts and i could barely fit my arms into the sleeves. Shit is so fucking tight it's uncomfortable as fuck. After i took it off i was checking out my main shoulder vein which became bigger and i've noticed new veins around my traps. When i raised my arm i've noticed that im getting new 3d and 2d veins on both triceps.

Im pretty happy right now.

>>42307615
When you take lgd at the doses you mentioned sure you risk shutting down your testies.
You're supposed to take 5mg to get the most out of it while not getting suppressed too harshly.
Taking doses above 10 mg is retarded for what you get in terms of gains, you might as well do a classic steroid cycle.

>>42307579
You could always stall it untill it becomes less questionable, my cousin has been engaged for three years now kek. The Thailand plan also seems good tbqh

>>42307579
>tfw 30 is coming up and I have no history with anyone

Dont run away because youll never find anyone ever again

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>>42307672
:) happy 4 u

But wasn't your problem that you are depressed? Or were you depressed because you thought you were getting 0 gains

Gonna jump on just so I can eat more junk

>>42307756
>/fat/ was a mistake.

>>42307713
>But wasn't your problem that you are depressed?
i am still "depressed". Im don't know what exactly is going on with me but i can't enjoy anything and i have zero energy most of the time. For example today i did nothing besides eating and sleeping druing the day. Although i am "happy" with my gains so far im still feeling like shit. Im still hoping that steroids will make me feel better.

>>42307791
>look good and eat whatever you want
or
>look great and eat a strict diet
I've made my choice.

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>>42307803
Try playing idolm@ster

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>>42307812

>>42307812
>look good and eat whatever you want and die in your 40's because of shitty diet and steroid abuse

>>42307914
>a big mac and some doritos every now and then will kill you in your 40s
>steroids will also kill you in your 40s
lol ok mom

>>42306437
Do yourself a favor and actually work out before thinking about any kind of ped.

>>42306437
Lol may be in a year or two if you actually knew how to diet and work out

>>42306437

>posts in /fat/
>then posts in /fraud/

what did he mean by this

>>42307300
>frozen chicken
What did you expect

Hows everyone doing this fine (insert relevant time zone)?

>>42307363
What is she like?
2 months sounds soon.
I'm 6 years in and we just moved in together.

Is there any danger in running an anavar cycle for a few weeks? I'm a grill btw

>>42308683
Low dose?
5-10mg should have no lasting side effects.

>>42308690
Where do I get it from though? I'm in London

>>42308718
L O N D O N
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N
D
O
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>>42308718
Internet. Not kidding.
Facebook even, just ask in your gym.

England, especially London should be pretty open about roids.

>>42308718
Find the swolest bitch in your gym and suck her clit dick

>>42307506
5-6 years of powerlifting based training before the back injury. I have taken 2 years off from lifting since so I'm now getting started up again


>>42308198
Thanks, I do workout maybe I prefer 2lbs a week though, some other can lose weight faster but I take my time. Eat right, good dosages,, and I'm good.

>>42308234
I might know a bit more about training and physiology than most here, but its one of those things in life where people look at who you have been in the past couple of years and they won't know who you were 2+ years ago...

>>42308486
Just looking for (yous) since things have been going awesome for the past few months and I'm generally just happy these days... but let me guess /fat/ so must be some degenerate right..

>>42308997
Show us your old you.

Appearance reflects everything you know about training and physiology.

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fuck, i am currently on vacation. Walk in my tank top in the city, i feel like a famous person. Everyone want to touch me, people walk up to me and say; i want to be like you. Woman bite their lips when i walk by. Men grap their gf's hands and run away into a shop when they see me. People turn their heads and jaw dropping for minutes when i pass by

i don't care about the mires, but damn i get why you faggots try to compensate now.

>>42309235
nice roleplaying dweeb

>>42307439
Pls.

Say I take 10mg of LGD a day, and then take Clomid as PCT - how much Clomid do I take and how often?

I can't seem to find any solid information.

>>42309235
Where u at?

>>42309241
I dare you to be with me for 1 day IRL.

ONE DAY, any of you faggots

Who dares?

>>42309270
Somewhere in Europe. But fuck, it seems that nobody lifts on this planet. 99% of the people are fat or skinny

i don't know why you faggots lift for woman. I see 9/10 woman with skinny fat all the time, zero muscles.

BLA BLA MONEY, no they look POOR and mediocre

>>42309300
I got some compliments in Murica for my vascularity and shoulders mostly (thanks roids).

Rest of europe, like England also respond to physique's. Is it me or is the Netherlands dead in that regard.

Odd question: what brand of kwark do you eat? I go for the campina one that has 10.something grams of proteins.

>>42309300

mast pls, I can hear your gf calling to get some pegging action

>>42309064
Yea, I'm embarssd to show it


I have pics of the old me, but I have shown them before and they were on /soc/ and I have posted them on /o/ and /fit/ before

I'm not bringing the attention since my name is kind of on here now and I dont want those photos to have a trip behind them.. I looked good though, really good. That was before the injury so I can't bring up all that shit I did years ago like it stands today

I'm rebuilding post injury so I have a long road ahead

nother 30lbs for 2017 and I'm happy..

>>42309351
Just show us, if you've made it before you can make that again.
I'm just curious that is all.

what the fuck do i do when i accidently crashed my estro on pct?

Start pinning test again without AI for the first weeks and let science do its thing?

>>42309374
I have posted the photos before, I can't edit it since it has been online

Plz, I'm not going down this road just for internet points...

>>42309382
Doctor.

>>42309382
Just keep plowing trough.
How the fuck did you crash your estro?

>>42309389
I want to see you daddy :(

>>42309389
It's fine.

I'll believe you, but some evidence does bring some more support.

Guys I think all of y'all's phones have been auto correcting "Grannies" to "Trannies" because since starting 1g of tren a week I have been craving that sweet gmilf snatch.

>>42309342
Fuck i love that shit and so should you. You don't know what you missing.

>>42309334
No i get mires everywhere . At the airport KLM even the people who work there call me fcking monster, damn you made out of bricks breh. Even some airport worker just touches my arm only and then stopped his body search, awkward shit.

I bought it first at ah, now i buy it at Aldi all same macros.

>>42305494
Not him but another person. Is this really bad? That is exactly here I inject

>>42309459
Will I get the same mires when I'm just as big but kinda manlet and kinda ugly?

>>42309487
>>42309487
From men yes. From women probably not so much.

Its like you spot a woman with good body and shitty face.

But you gf will probably hate it when you get all the attention. My gf hates is kek.

>>42309467
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar and my nigger

>>42306528
0/10 shilling

>>42309538
Oh shit bro you have a gf? Woah you sound like an awesome dude.

>>42309397
being silly with arimidex.

but in theory, shouldnt test pinning result in aromatisation and higher estrogen wich could set the levels back to "normal" or "better than now"? Or does that sound completly retarded?

>>42309538
I get some mires from time to time, girls check me out at the gym as well.

Today I left a girl cashier speechless mid sentence as she saw my arms then slowly looked up towards my face and locked her gaze into my eyes.

Felt pretty good, to think around a year ago I was just another dude checking out.
Now to drop some fat and get my jaw out again.

>>42309583
If its Test E remember that it takes a while to kick in, in that time your estromprob recovered anyways.

>>42309568
Being this jelly so you have to be sarcastic, LMAO. Way to go internet hero.

>>42309608
So you're not ugly then. Mires are like crack.

So took new girl #2 out for the third time last night and still not one fucking thank you.

>>42309663
I have some self esteem issues and baggy eyes thanks to genetics, might get them removed at one point.

Btw, would love to see a tricep flex from you, since they're pretty massive.

>>42309687
The cuckery on this board is unlocking new dimensions. LMAO KILL YOURSELF LOSER. Instead of crying for help on a board full of autistic, you should fucking tell her the truth. Jesus fucking christ. Get a fkcing grip.

>>42309694
Mind to share face pic?

>>42309620
yes im planning of running only like 250 test-e
i doubt it will have recovered since my estro have been crashed for like a month only, and just recently my hands have been getting really try and i can peel skin from them

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>>42309247
This is my current plan.

Thoughts?

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>>42309748
Fuck hope I don't have to regret this.

This is old tho.

>>42309852

mirin' the haircut

>>42309852
You're pretty good looking

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>>42309852
Saved.

>>42309818
Just use test? It's much cheaper and safer than sarms

>>42309852
You're not ugly m8, far from it. Lose some bodyfat it will bring out your jaw more. Nothing to be embarrassed about. You sound like those woman that say that they're fat just to get a reaction to they're not.

>>42309852
That some pretty serious body dysmorphia mate, they look fine.

>>42309852
U are a qt

>>42309852
QT 3.14 DETECTED

>>42309885
>>42309922
>>42309925
>>42309957
>>42309974
Thanks guys, really made my night.

I'm aware I focus too much on my flaws but I can't help it.

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>>42309852
It doesn't look that bad. I would say it actually look a bit cute and youthful. It looks a little bit like aegyo sal.

>>42309694
>and baggy eyes thanks to genetics
I have this too + permanent dark bags

>hey anon you look tired
>stop looking so angry anon
fucks me off

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>>42309852
your lips remind me of pepe's qt

>>42310000
Well you are at the right place for body dismorphya and general retardnes

Can confirm nobody in this world lifts. Have been in croatia last week and only fat unfit people there.
There have been a few hot chicks but even the "dont be fat" standard for girls seems to be absent.
Not many or open mires though, not big enough yet feelsbad.jpg

>>42310000
Nice digits

>>42310080
We'll all make it brah

>>42310035
Yeah the old "wow anon are you tired?" gets old fast.

So, you guys are just going to keep injecting test for the rest of your lives?

>>42310153
That's the plan so far

>>42310106
I just say I'm stressed until I can get them filled in
feels poor man

>>42310153
Till i die, hopefully while i stab myself in the ass with a needle or stab a girl in the ass with my dick

>>42310165
>>42310193

What dosage do you plan to stay on? Has the effects of testosterone on mood reduced over time for you guys?

>>42310213
>Has the effects of testosterone on mood reduced over time for you guys?

It doesn't get reduced, you just get more used to it.

>>42310213
Cruise at least at 200mg to keep most of the suicidal thoughts at bay.

Seems to be as strong as the day I started, if not better.

>>42310213
>effects of testosterone on mood
lol

>>42310244

I guess that's true.

>>42310249

I am at 125mg. Anything higher and I get massive panic attacks, no idea why. I too take it to keep depression and anxiety at bay, seems to work well but pinning in the ass every week is tiresome.

>>42310253


I used to feel depersonalized, depressed and anxious all the time before Testosterone, it definitely had an effect on my mood.

>>42310306
You also get a lot more energized with high test levels. I find it hard to be depressed when I have so much energy. The times when I can think back to being depressed, I had no energy at all to do anything.

>>42310306
the effects of test, even at low doses, more than make up for having to pin once a week

>>42310253
>thinking hormones have no effect on mood
Back to elementary biology with you.

>>42310306
I love pinning so thats a non-issue for me. I get anxious when I'm only pinning twice a week on cruise, like I'm missing out.

Test was my cure, it helped me get my life on track. Better to have it kill me somewhere in the future then doing it myself right now.

>>42310352
>>42310355

I agree, testosterone has worked very well for me. I would be in a much darker place if it wasn't for it.


How long have you guys been on it?

>>42310383

You pin twice a week? Are you cycling atm?

>>42310395
I split it up in two 100mg doses during cruise.

On blasts I pin daily rotating injection sites. Which I'm at for another week.

>>42309235
I love you masT

>>42308670
>6 years
This makes me happy

>>42309852
Cutie. We have similar lip shape

>>42310395
When I'm cruising I pin 3x a week, but I only use short esters. 50 mg of prop 3x a week is more or less my sweet spot as far as cruising on short esters goes.

>>42310739
never post in my thread again

>>42310750
I don't like using long esters ever, I really like the feeling of being ON something which I don't get with enanthate.

>>42310791
what do you feel different with p that you dont with e?

>>42310811
It could be entirely psychosomatic but I sort of feel the test in my bloodstream with prop which I don't with longer esters. Of course the only symptoms which I'm going off of is a general sense of well being and random erections throughout the day, which I get with prop but I don't get with enanthate or longer esters.

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I don't do any of these drugs but figured you guys would have some knowledge. How does this look? Am i going to die?

>>42310965
We are all going to die anon,do you have a reason to think something is wrong? TSH is a little high but in range

>>42310965
left is your value, middle is the reference range

you're good everywhere. any questions?

>>42311021
>>42311040

Just been feeling pretty lethargic for quite some time now, really never feel like i am rested after sleeping. Waking up is awful, always feel like shit when i wake up. I only drink water and keep sugar intake to a decent amount. Just feel like i have very little energy and remember it being different at times. Like as a kid waking up and the second my eyes opened getting out of bed and going to do something feeling good.

>>42311072
why not get test checked?

>>42311091

Doctor didn't put it on the test sheet i gave to the clinic/didn't talk about it. I probably should, just really don't want to find out i am some literal low t beta. Only other thing i can think of is i have a deviated septum and i have read/heard some people say it reduces oxygen intake when sleeping etc.

How much do you guys pay for rent for a 1b/1ba?

I'm tired of living with my parents but every apartment in a decent area is like 1200$ a month. Otherwise I can go live in the ghetto where people get shot daily for around 700$.

I make 2300$ a month and I've read you shouldn't spend more than 30% on rent

>>42311144
You could be hypo, i would get free T4 and T3 plus the testosterone thing

explain like i'm 5 how roids work
do they make you gain muscle faster than working out normally? do they make you grow muscle even when you're not working out?

>>42311163
If you truly believe you can manage your financial situation spending more on rent, do it.

Most general financial advice is catered to the lowest common denominator.

>>42311265
yes. they also increase the amount of muscle you can put on
iirc there is a study where they gave 1 group of people roids and had them not lifting and a second group of people lift without roids. The group that had roids and didnt lift gained more muscle

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>>42311363
>gained more muscle
Its lean mass

>>42311265
Steroids make you recover from stress quicker.

There you go. There is conflicting evidence that steroids increase FFMI without stress.

>>42311390
what the difference? water?
didnt mean it as bait

>>42302359
Just order from a "research" website. Search it

will the reddit wiki and other sources teach me how to use safely?

>>42311461
yes

>>42311438
Its everything but fat.
So water and glycogen gain in the non lifting group

Where do you guys go for blood work help/diagnosis?

>>42311482
The secret is....we don't.

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>>42311503

>>42311482
My doctor

>>42311550
How much does blood work cost with good insurance?

>>42301369
Do HIIT like a normal human being. Better effect, less time wasted.

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Joe Rogan podcast with Dorian Yates is p good. They talk about frauding a little bit

>>42299394
REMINDER:
No matter how much horse steroids you inject your ass, a REAL ALPHA MALE will top you every goddamned time because NOTHING you inject will change who you are inside. You'll always be the beta-as-fuck DYEL pussy little cunt you started out as because you didn't EARN the RIGHT to be an alpha male.

Enjoy your delusions of grandeur while you can. The first real alpha male that comes along will shatter it -- and (((You))) -- into pieces.

Have a nice Friday, cunts.

>>42312299
Do you even read these threads? Nobody here is an alpha.

>>42311986
I don't pay anything extra and my "insurance"(not american so i don't know if it is the correct term) is like 80-90 freedom dolars

>>42312324
Jerry is the only true alpha male

>>42312324
That's true.
Also girl who ran back to her ex had a friend that I met a few times and she added me on FB and started messaging me today saying we should hangout some time. Pretty happy about this desu.

>>42307439
Have an AI for on cycle support just in case. If you're taking it with test you may need ai due to more free test and estrogen than you'd expect at a given dosage. Some people have their free test go higher than natty while their total test is lowered.. before their total test is lowered enough to reduce free test to natty levels or lower (shbg effect).

PCT is unnecessary due to 1) short half life. 2) LH and FSH intact so you only need the LGD to fuck off and shbg to climb back up to produce normal total test levels.

Taking it with test you'll need a regular pct though.


Also why clomid? Dump that shit. There's nolva, toremifene, etc.

>>42312399
Have done anything about girl #2 being ungrateful?

>>42312324
>Do you even read these threads? Nobody here is an alpha.
I knew it, LOL they're all a bunch of PUSSIES.

>use steroids
>you're still a GIGANTIC PUSSY
no thanks

>>42312561
Yes.

I cant stop checking out lolis
Im barely even on hormones rn
I should burn some vacation and go to china

>>42312398
This is true

$60 for Tren. THIS IS CONSIDERED EXTREMELY CHEAP IN KANGAROO LAND!!!!!

>>42312492
Not yet I'm going to give her one more chance before I bring it up, I feel like that's awkward as fuck to be like hey say thanks.

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>natty kahuna bigger than most of fraud

Bring me your tires, your poor, your huddled masses

>>42312651
If you keep being beta about it you're only showing her that what she's doing is acceptable, and she'll keep doing it.

>>42312622
You're not mentally stable enough or injury free enough for tren

>>42312651
Shes using you, you beta fuck

>>42312659
>masses
Theres no mass here

>>42312697
I'm probably going to hit 750-1g of tren next blast.

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>your 4 closest friends all have gfs
>sit at home alone on the weekend because no one can hang out

Girlfriends are fun killers

>>42312697
Idk anything about science but I think my body permanently absorbed steroids forever

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>>42312730
just get a good gf then and have fun

Is it even possible to pin with a 30g?

>>42312726
You dont need that much

>>42312730
Get a daki

>>42312740
I think thats wrong but I believe you

>>42312747
how long do you have

>>42312748
You don't need more than one daki.

>>42312747
Yeah
I use slin pins most of the time

>>42312762
You need as many ad you can handle.
As long as theyre all of your wife~

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>>42312742
>good gf

Top kek anon don't you know I live in America where all women are degenerate whores

>>42312813
I can only find 1/2" pins for 30g. Is that enough for quads? I pinned it last time with a 1" and I don't need that experience again.

>>42312831
Don't worry anon, you'll find one soon.
I believe in you

>>42312831
Get a daki

>>42312837
Should be fine
Unless youre fat

>>42312947
Confirm not fat

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>>42312983
Okay whatever fatty

>>42312747
29g is possible, 30g might be pushing it.

With 29g its just about impossible to pin oil with a 1ml syringe, 3ml syringe it is possible (oil warmed up), you can put ridiculous pressure on the 1ml+29g combo and it wont budge. Its the plunger surface area to oil surface area contact 1ml is too small.

27g 1/2 inch is better, dont need to warm up oil, kinda slow but not too slow. Still use a 3ml.

>>42312831
Get a whore gf for some dp fun then

>>42313021
I'm not into that

I mostly just want to hang out with my friends anyway that was the original point

>>42312995
Reeeeee don't cyber bully me

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>>42313104
Found a pic of you
Damn abo

BPC-157 arrived. Going to use gf has a guinea pig to see if it treats her IBS and Celiac in anyway

>>42313190
>using experimental research chemicals on your girlfriend
There's no way this can end badly

>>42313190
>gf has IBS and celiac
well it explains why she's with you lmao, she's a literal subhuman

Started picking up the gear, equipment, and PCT/Aromasin for my first cycle.

Going to be doing 15 weeks Test-E 500mg/wk. With 2x week injections.

Nervous as fuck boys for my first pin later this week. Any comforting words?

>>42313831
It might sting a bit but just get through it, it's not so bad. Where are you planning to pin?

solo pinning left glute is the fucking worst

>>42313831
First time PIP is the worst but after that it will become.more bearable. Also don't pin quads the day before you train them.

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Good barbell only body-split?

>>42314052
GERMAN
VOLUME
TRAINING

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>>42314052
>doing steroids
>can't make your own program

Tfw people who have been lifting for 6 months hop on

>>42306705
Liquid is bitter and mildly spicy.

>>42314052
http://www.cuttystrength.com/4-day-barbell-only-muscle-building-routine/

>>42308683
I'm in Bristol, I was getting my test + anavar from a dnm seller easily enough. Not sure what I'll do since the FBI shut it all down, i have just enough to trt-cruise until next spring. There's a UK seller on r/SST which i might try

>>42312299
150mg/w test-e changed my life. better to be a pseudo-alpha fraud than a genuine beta

>>42313727
>subhuman

She's not an abo you fuck nugget

>>42313909
what about pinning them before trainig?

>train legs
>pin glute next day
>ass is in pain
how am i supposed to train legs?

>>42314830

you're normally not supposed to get unbearable pain from pinning ass

>>42314851
i guess the pip and soreness after workout kicked in the same time

>>42314882
>>42314830
If you pin like an hour or two before training you're good but half a day and it will hurt.
And yeah like other anon said pinning glutes, especially ventral glutes doesn't interfer with training legs that much.

>>42314901
i did leg press and i always get sore glutes after doing leg press

>>42314910
Well everyone is different but I promise you quad pip is worse than glute pip for pretty much everyone lol

>>42314958
Im just saying i never pinned after hitting legs exclusively. If this shit will happen again i think i will split my leg training into other days again.

>promise you quad pip is worse
i've been there

I think you are all pussies or use pip as an excuse to not train hard.
In all of my 2 years on I never had anything that bad that I cried about it. Some soreness yes but you just train over it.

On other notes why the fuck do I start yawning like crazy when entering the gym.i am not tired and windows are always open for fresh air.wtf?

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I hate when a social event fucks up my schedule, especially when it involves alcohol and/or fucking up my sleep schedule

I work hard all week so Fri, Sat, and Sunday are my favorite workout days because I get to give 100%

>>42315024
Low blood sugar makes you yawn. I get that at te end of my workouts if I didn't eat much that day yet.

>>42314566
On a scale from 6000000 to Jew how Jewish is your girlfriend

>>42315481
She's Palestinians and Jews should just get along. She tries to shill feminism and left wing ideas at me all the time. And then I destroy her.

I spent way too much time on /pol/

>>42312748
>I think thats wrong but I believe you
Says no abs alien who defies science

>Brother texts me saying his gf just left him
>Is asking for my advice since I managed to get my gf back

Should I tell him to start tren or what?

>>42315498
>She's Palestinians and Jews should just get along.
what

>>42312659
>being natty for this

>>42316047
I know right. Israel technically belongs to christians

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Is there a steron that doesn't increase vascularity much? I already have freak veins, I don't want them to get bigger.

If I labmax anavar and only take less than 10mg daily, is there any risk involved?

I know anavar is said to be unreliable, but it would at least test with certainty that there aren't other steroids even if my anavar is not pure, right?

>>42314566
No but she has an abo fucking her

>>42316372
>I know anavar is said to be unreliable
meant labmax

>>42316372
It looks like labmax can tell the difference between anavar and winstrol, so it looks like youre g2g (get the advanced one and a light I think)

Theres a popular meme source thats been tested and var should be legit.

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Everyone on the gym thinks I'm roiding, so after 5 and half years of natty lifting, I think its time to hand in my natty card

The thing is that I'm completely oblivious about roids.

Whats the lightest thing, that will give me a small boost (maybe 2 or 3 lean muscle kilos)?
Anavar? I've heard Dianabol is good for bulking, but it causes alot of water retention, so I don't want to lose my six pack while roiding

[spoiler] I don't want to lose my hair also[/spoiler]

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>>42316434

ffs

>>42316434
Im not sure if anavar is any good at building muscle in men, even a bit.

If you wanna go oral only take LGD-4033 (5mg ED for 8 weeks) or LGD-3303 if you can get it. S23 looks pretty fucking nuts so not 'light' and probably should be taken with test.

If you want to take an oral steroid or pro hormone, you should use test with it.

Or just use test at 300mg/wk. 500mg/wk is recommended for first but 300mg is definitely past natty and youre still gonna gain off that.

>>42316434
>Everyone on the gym thinks I'm roiding
People thought that i was roiding before i even started lifting weights.

I also thought i was fcking huge until i was on vacation in Berlin and joined some hardcore gym. I tell you, i looked like a fkcing twink in that gym, because everyone was freaking huge. Even a fcking old man probably around his 70s was huge and ripped. Everything is relative. People didn't even notice me In that gym. Crazy.

>>42316434

read the op

>>42310035
A-are you me?

>>42316572
>huge ripped 70s guy.

I NEED PICS

>>42316572
Have you always been fuckyuge?

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Im 5 weeks, pinning 500mg of test e weekly. Still waiting for free test results.

E2 is at 70,50 pg/ml and range is 11,30 - 43,20

As of now i've been taking 0.5mg of adex e3d on pinning days. Should i bump it to 1mg e3d or take 0.5 eod?

>>42316434
To take steroids you're probs going to have to shut down your natty test production. So probably just cycle some test prop. Add in some sdrol if you're brave.

>>42316668
I am telling you the truth like i always do.

>>42316772
I was born this way

chestne/bacne what do?

>>42316939
Post more inspo

>>42316939
No, you do not understand, I NEED pics, Im not asking for evidence Im asking because I NEED it

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>>42307125
I am reporting back, I was so damn nervous but I did it. She is now my gf and we kissed briefly.
>Tfw qt azn gf

>>42316972
Always be yourself even when you were never meant to make it.

Just shave it.

>>42317334
You need only muscle, money and looks in this life.

>>42317334
Trannies don't cut it anymore?
Judge free zone here you can say it

>>42316830
0.5 eod would be what i'd do.

new

>>42318058
>>42318058
>>42318058

>>42317895
You fuck.