Boxing > Lifting

>>42269949
If boxers have that hard of a time determining species then it would appear that boxing makes you literally retarded.
in my opinion lifting is better because it doesn't make you retarded.
Maybe you should stop boxing so much OP.

>>42270067
Over sized muscles=Slow
Brainlet

>>42270097
>he thinks the comparison he posted is of a lifter and a slower lifter
>not a lifter and a turtle
seriously, lay off the boxing.

>>42270067
FPBP

>>42270067
>it would appear that boxing makes you literally retarded
it literally does, repeated hits to the head unsurprisingly cause brain damage

>Brain damage vs not having brain damage

>>42269949
>lifting heavy ass weights and looking aesthetic and getting mugged by a nigger with a gun
>getting punched in the face and still getting mugged by a guy with a gun

>>42270122
>>42270155
>>42270165
>But I'll hurt myself if I get into a fight :'(
Lifters are the biggest pussies.

>>42270211
>fuck you shit ass turtle faggot fucks at least I LOOK LIKE A HUMAN shit ass fags with your fucking shells and shit fucking 4 legged reptilian shits shitshelled shit asses

>>42270204
>Muh aesthetics
>Still get knocked out by guys that less weight less than you
Embarrassing.

>>42270211
>t. Brainlet

>>42270067
>>42270122
>>42270155
>>42270244
ITT: Retards that don't get basic analogies

>>42270277
>SHIT ASS TURTULES FUCKING SHIT

>literally giving yourself brain damage - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia_pugilistica
>so full of rage and hatred that you're constantly sizing people up and looking for a fight
>can be easily btfo by grapplers who don't give themselves brain damage. or people with weapons or anyone who kicks you in the stomach or a group of people.
>look like dyel manlets
>Admittedly have an advantage against untrained opponents but can still be easily overwhelmed by larger and stronger opponents
>Can't help me lift the couch into the van but can shadow box and do "tst" noises.

Boxing is a fucking meme.

>>42270255
>getting into fights as an adult
pleb

BJJ here, lul @ boxers

enjoy getting crippled in a matter of seconds if you ever get into any REAL fight

>>42270255
>getting punched in the face as hobbie
>getting in fights
Embarrassing.
also the only time i was about to get in a fight this turbo manlet, probably 5'7 pretty bulky was picking fights with dyels, pushing them and yelling at them in a bar, security don't give a shit, he starts pointing his finger at a dyel friend, i stand up, tell him to fuck off, he calls me a faggot and before he say another word i push the guy really hard, he fell over some tables, cut his arm on some broken bottles and got kicked out mumbling some bullshit while bleeding

I lift because I like how I look and it's fun.
I carry a gun so I don't have to get into a street fight with some shitskin that has something to prove.
Boxing is fine for cardio and recreation but I literally don't give a shit about how many people you think you'd beat in a street fight. Buy a gun and stop being a retard.

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>>42270311
>Can't help me lift the couch into the van but can shadow box and do "tst" noises.

There is great benefit to doing both

>>42269949
dudes nips are way up there lul

>>42270155
yeah this, it's why I avoid every sport involving my head, don't want to be retarded after my prime. Look up the cognitive issues of e.g. ex-nfl pros. Lifting is nonetheless a really safe recreational hobby unless you go full snap city retard

>>42270460
yeah check out this benefit of boxing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy

>>42269949
>needing to land hundreds of punches to knock someone out
>losing any fight that goes to the ground which is most of them

>>42269949
This is how you get a gf OP. go up to some cardio bunnies in the gym and tell them you can beat up the chad doing curls across the gym. She'll be so impressed she'll blow you right then and there.

>>42270311
>>Can't help me lift the couch into the van but can shadow box and do "tst" noises.
kek

>>42269949
mma stomps boxers.

>>42270537
49-1

>>42270211
>>42270277

In all honesty powerlifting and boxing are both 100% pointless in modern society.

By lifting light and controlled you look better, live longer and are still stronger than the majority of the population.

>but self defense

Well if you live out of the U.S. then yah you probably want to get good at a combat sport, otherwise getting a hand gun and concealed carry permit isn't hard or that expensive. Would actually cost less then classes for said self defense.

>>42270211
>2017
>thinking you still have to fight

>>42270582
I hope, but i dont think it will happen.

Floyd would get raped in the octagon, though. He would have no chance in hell. Even the high ranking MMA women would beat him.

>>42270595
this. It's all about the health & social benefits of getting a sturdy muscle shield around your skeleton. Sure, getting stronger is a fun byproduct, but you have to think long-term.

And lifting is probably the best way to avoid getting into conflicts at all. If you look actually built/intimidating, people won't start shit unless you are a semi-dyel in a XXS shirt (i.e. 99% of people on /fit/ that say they get bothered by other dudes due to "their size"). Being legit muscular makes all the brown teenagers have respect for you.

>>42269949
Cock and ball torture > clean eating
Prove me wrong

>>42270834
This is why so many people shit so hard on proven methods like fasting or anything low-carb or keto. It works, but requires real discipline, unlike exercise which is actually the enjoyable part.

Boxing and all combat sports seem to attract people that are just looking for a fight (no shit). In reality, all that matters is ferocity and relative strength, someone whos got 30 lbs on you will kick your ass if anyway.

>>42270277
>I'm allowed to hate turtles because analogies
Ummm... yeah try again sweetie

>>42271069
Lmao serious fighters are the minority in most gyms, single moms and betas trying to not be such pussies pay the bills in most boxing gyms.

You don't need to do too much boxing

I mean 5 months would pretty much give all you need, then you can focus on lifting

Hell, you will improve dramatically after every new sparring session you do

Most people don't know how to throw a punch either, if you are a lifter and you do it using your arm strength (like squeezing your tricep really hard) you are doing it wrong, you need to use your legs and hips to punch really hard and keep all your upper body relaxed as fuck

If anything learn how to throw a punch, it's really different of how you think it is. /fit/ seems to love their squats and deadlifts and those will really add to punching and kicking power

I started boxing because i wanted to feel more manly and less of a pussy... What I learned is real fucking humbleness, all combat sports really humble you, you see that everyone has potential if they dedicate themselves to it

>>42270502
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiovascular_fitness
hmmm

>>42269949
i'm not low class, not going to be a boxer

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>>42270311
don't talk shit about shadow boxing

>>42270097
too much heavylifting= smaller dick

>>42271277
you can get cardio in without becoming a brainlet. Take Mayweather, one of the best boxers around. Nigger is literally illiterate. Continue to box if you already lack in intelligence but others who still have brain cells above double digits don't need .

>>42271069
>30 pounds will beat you
Skill > Size faggot

>>42269949
>forced to pathetically brag about it because nobody can tell you work out
>can't win fights against anyone trained in an actual martial art
>free brain injuries
Just do BJJ or something if you really want to fight people.

All martial arts are a fucking meme. Unless you are planning on making a living from the sport you are wasting your time. Buy a gun

>>42269949

I'm pretty sure that's how boxers see everybody. It's hardly an insult to bodybuilders.

>>42269949
>know guy from work
>has been boxing for 2 years
>skinny as all hell
>genuinely believes a 2 hour training session burns 1800 calories

>>42269949
>slow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T0z1CT-nR8

>>42270530
>grappling
>ever expecting your opponent to fight fair or abide by rules

Please. Try to take me to the ground at 20 yards away after I shoot you. you stupid faggot.

>>42271677
>implying I wouldn't just teleport behind your back and sink in a choke before you could draw
Fufufufu you underestimate the power of jiujitsu

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>>42270067

>>42271677
>>42271653

>shooting a random drunk that threw some wild haymakers in the street and being jailed by homicide for 20 years

Yeah, really wise lol

Like learning martial arts to defend your property or business, it's all about the context

>>42269949
Box: accumulate brain damage
Lift weights: accumulate muscle
Hard choice

>>42271593
Yes because a 159 lb, 5'9" manlet boxer is somehow going to overpower and knockout a 230 lb, 6'2". Yes skill has its place but there comes a point where sheer size will overwhelm any opponent. There is a reason why we have weight classes, and I can guarantee you that some untrained mook with a 7 foot wingspan is not gonna be easily punched in the face by someone who barely comes up to their shoulders. It is ridiculous that'd you even think that, especially if you're a trained fighter.

>>42271879
Lmao just stop, nonfighter. I'm only 175lbs and could easily spark some 230 n00b

>>42271910

Not that guy but when someone can pick you up and throw you like a fucking toddler then you get bet your ass you're probably going to lose. I've been doing Muay Thai and BJJ for 5 years, and you wouldn't catch me trying to street fight somebody who has 100lbs on me. That's just dumb.

>>42271879

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aIUrPrzEwU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7V1eUfccJo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfNHFv2slMY (before you say, "this guy punches like shit", i guarantee you that if you have never punched before or have any boxing training this is what you look like punching with your arms instead of your hips and legs)

With some training your odds would increase dramatically, but still skill wins everytime, there are a lot of fights with 10lb of difference and height differences that are still won by skill

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>>42269949
>people who train for a certain sport are better at that sport than people who don't
You're blowing my mind, OP.

>>42272003

>the pathetic growl at 1:24 to psyche himself up

lmao

>>42269949
Until somebody uses their legs.

I want to do grappling/wrestling, do I risk any brain damage?

>>42272221

No, you risk neck damage if you do jiu jitsu or wrestling but only if you spar with retards

Grappling is really friendly anyway, it isn't that harsh as some people think it is, the skills you get are amazing, it's all about technique and you will quickly improve (it's amazing how you improve weekly just by going and trying again, some days you wake up and suddently you improved a lot)

>>42272270
Allright thanks senpai I was afraid of that. I'll do wrestling as Judo is literally a nursery in France (people throw their kids there and leave)

Without laughing.

I think I can fuck up a gorilla with bare hands

I practice MMA for 7 years now, boxing in parallel for 6 years, I could.
Not to count strength training at the gym for 4 years, 6 ft 1 1/2 for 189 lbs.

I have an insane speed, reflexes similar to my speed. I just have to wait for him to charge me, dodge his attacks, and throw good punches to his head. I won't stop, and at the smallest mistake he does, the gorilla is finished.

You'll always have virgins from here thinking that it's impossible.

First, nothing is impossible with will, my friends, and 2) that's not with your weak ass bodies that you'll do anything.

Any man with a minimum of training can beat a gorilla with a knife anyway.

With bare hands, that is not necessarily more complicated, it just requires technical skills.

>Wants to be good at fighting
>Stays at 135lbs
Why are fighters retarded ?

>>42272489
>I just have to wait for him to charge me, dodge his attacks, and throw good punches to his head

would it be beneficial to undergo a boxer's training regimen without the actual boxing? because i don't really want to spend my later years in life suffering from the brain damage i endured in my youth.

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>>42270067
Noice

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How do boxers see bullets?

>>42270122
>>42271084
it's a tortoise

>>42272489
you must have minor autism

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>>42270277
>ITT: boxers who don't know what bait is when chewing on it

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>Prove me wrong

Size is everything. Nobody wants to fight bigger and stronger opponent and fights only happen when one side senses that it can beat the other easily. Being big & intimidating >> being able to fight. Also, only poor people fight.

>>42271865
Nigger, you're either in fear of your life or not. If you're not, then you just walk away. If you are, then you draw your CC and shoot center mass. Acting like you're just gonna fight randoms because you can just makes you a nigger.

>>42269949
Muay Thai is the real answer.

>>42272489
pics or it didn't happen

>>42271676
This. Even Rich Piana isn't as slow as people would think, and he's oiled up mess. Imagine someone with natural and healthy mass.

>>42272599
This. Nobody fucking fights past high school. Welcome to the real world, faggots.

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>>42272489
i failed. i laughed

>>42272511
The idea is that you become the best fighter who weighs 135 against other people who also weigh 135

>>42272489
>gets shot and dies

>>42270067
got em

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Your tortoise is ugly get a better one like my little girl here

>>42270277
>so many blows to head doesn't know he's taking the most obvious bait

>>42273153
What type of tortoise is that?

>>42271677
Never say this in front of girls they laugh at you and think youre a pussy.

>>42270619
>Cyborg v Mayweather
That I would pay $100 to see

>>42273811
>girls dont think highly of someone who literally says they are too weak to handle shit but try and act tough

No shit

>>42271948
>not doing both
People who just lift are betas, lifting something doesn't take much mental fortitude

>>42273153
ur tortoise is cute please tell it hello from me anon from 4chan

>>42271069
"Seem" is the key word. Most guys from combat sports are more self disciplined than the average asshole.

The ones looking for a fight tend to get their ego bruised easily and don't train often.

>>42269949
Enjoy your brain damage

>>42269949
A huge lifter easily defeats a martial artist in a fight. This is why all martial arts have weight classes, because a big guy with little skill can easily crush a smaller guy who is very skilled.
Strength > Technique
This has always been the truth when it comes to fighting.

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>>42270067
B T FUCK O

>>42270619
>high ranking female mma practitioner
Vs
>Floyd mayweather
>in the octogon
God damnit people THIS is the fight we should be holding out more. Too bad Floyd is a by the numbers chump who would never pick a fight that would be challenging to him just in case he ruined his perfect record.

>>42271676
>where's the zookeepers!!
Fucking retarded whore. Surely some zookeeper is gonna step in a cage with two alpha gorillas fighting each other.

>>42271349
>only defense is for shadow boxing, the most autistic training method in the world
>posts weebshit

Why am I not surprised?

>>42274474

shadowboxing is great, i would say it's one of the best ways to train if you know what you are doing

>low stress on the joints
>can do technical drills for hours without burning out
>can train technique, speed and power generation
>can visualize and train new combos, counter attacks, foot technique alone
>can be done anywhere

it looks autistic for you because

>you haven't never spar, so you don't even know what you need to work on
>you think power comes from muscle more than technique
>you think shadowboxing is what newbies do to warm up and what boxing stars show to the TV press when fiddling around

>>42269949
Hows first week of boxing going?

>>42274573
Power does come from muscle far more than from technique. Again, this is why there are weight classes in martial arts. Because a skilled small guy is going to get utterly crushed by a first time fighter who is a lot bigger and physically stronger.
This is why practicing martial arts is only useful in official competitions. In street fights lifting will be of a lot more use to you due to the size and strength advantage.

>>42273716
>losing so much blood from your brain due to lifting that you dont realize youre getting double baited
>implying my reply wasnt his end goal of this entire thread

>>42274629
>Power does come from muscle far more than from technique.

Nope, wrong answer

See >>42272003

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>>42269949
>high school
>joking around with some friends
>group of 3 guys walks past and mocks me
>go to grab him
>friend stops me
>"dude don't do that, that guy is a boxer, he's been doing it since he was 10"
>grab the guy by the shoulder
>does some shimmy doo da slip away
>instantly gets in some faggy boxing stance with footwork thingy
>literally just grab him, trip him and punch his head in until starts shouting "AIGHT! AIGHT! AIGHT!"
boxing lmao

>>42270423
thinking you can nullify every situation where a martial art is necessary with a gun is foolish. Will you shoot someone who slaps your girlfriends ass in the club as well?

>>42274649
Nah you're wrong.
Strength and size beats technique. This is why they don't let you manlets compete against big guys in martial arts.

>>42274629
Power comes from technique and weight. A big guy can deliver a harder punch than a little guy because he's creating a lot more torque when he fires

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>>42273789
She's a cherry head tortoise and she's just under a year
>>42273968
I did she did nothing like usual

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>>42272489
Fuck I remember that. Good pasta.

I like combat sports, but the head trauma doesn't seem worth it until medical treatment catches up.

>>42269949

Boxing here. sort of confirmed? Boxing is fun as fuck, and requires more physical exertion in my opinion. And I think bodybuilders think way too highly of themselves. If push comes to shove, and something happened, like the economy crashes, migrants take your country, and THEN your economy collapses, how will you even maintain your retarded rock of a body? However, boxers think very highly of themselves too, and I do respect strength training.

>>42269949
>comparing two different sports entirely with completely different goals
Sick memes.
Also
>Implying that a martial artist can't lift to get his strength and mass up
>Implying that deadlifts aren't useful for pretty much every sport, including combat ones
Even sicker.

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>>42269949
>Just boxing
>Not doing boxing + crossfit so you get both the power and aesthetics while remaining lean af.
I was gonna side with OP but the other anons have a point.

>>42270155
you people realise getting dumber is a good thing

the goal is to get dumb enough to no longer have existential crises, then death is not such a big issue anymore

>>42272599
What happens when someone isn't afraid of your muscles faggot?
You get BTFO by small manlets.

ITT:Insecure lifters that know they would get BTFO by the average boxer.

>>42274653
I believe you beat up an amatuer boxer with no training

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>He thinks I do martial arts for any purpose beyond pretending to be from Naruto

ARMBAR! TRIANGLE CHOKE! SECRET JITSU: OMAPLATA!

>mfw you can train to box but not actually fight anyone, and still look better than a lifter

>>42272602
>you dont live in UK where real men sort their problems like men

>>42274695
Yes

>>42277424
You mean like stupid savages?
Nobody fights anymore.

>>42277887
do you find it better to solve your Problems with a lawer and not with your Hands?

>>42269949
lifting not always bodybuilding

>>42269949
boxing??? is it 1992?
try that boxing shit nowadays and you will just get taken down and choked out

>>42273153
What a cutie.
How big will she grow?

>>42270067
Will boxers ever recover?

>>42277922
What are you going to do, fight my lawyer?

>>42270211
that's why men invented weapons so physical differences are not an issue

>>42278415
is this /r9k????wtf
kys fgt

>>42278406
no, only a Retard would fight a lawer or someone that will rely on one.

I just look at where we are heading on.
If the lawmakers have a good heart and care for the weak and just, than good.
But i dont see that in our Society. Banks are ruling.

>>42269949
>box for 3 years
>look somewhat otter mode after few years of pushups and pullups and have visible abs
>knock out guys taller and bigger than me in a street fights
>one time i had a fight with a much taller guy than me and bigger then me, hit him so hard and got blood all over my shirt
>quit boxing due to knuckle injury
>lifting for 10 months and now i look somewhat big and i can actually fight
Sometimes i miss boxing but then i look at the mirror and remember how dyek i used to be.

>>42274695
A drunk shove or a gutshot is plenty. I don't need to know how to send the guy to the ER twelve different ways with just my thumb to get my point across.

>>42278653
>don't box at all
>just lift
>one time I'm having a good time with my bro in a bar
>a dude I know who boxes for 5 years come to me
>"your muscles are useless bro"
>I say no
>he says prove it
>I push him, he squares up
>I just proceed to hit him like a truck he dodge one but take two after
>he's knocked out
>cops come and now I have to pay money for this fag

Boxing is a meme

>>42278709
I'm just shitposting, box is the best sport to fight in the street

>>42278709
>a dude I know who boxes for 5 years come to me
>"your muscles are useless bro"
>straight to the "things that happen" Folder
what are you 12???

>>42278750
YEAH I KNOW I SHITPOSTED I'M SORRY

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>>42270311
>Can't help me lift the couch into the van but can shadow box and do "tst" noises.

>>42276328
Do you really think any fighter could take on somebody like brian shaw? That fucker could rip your arms off.

>>42269949
Who cares what boxers think?

>>42278822
>brian shaw
>meme

>>42269949
Do both faggot

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>>42272489
>I think I can fuck up a gorilla with bare hands
Go for it bro

>>42272489
What if the gorilla just throws cars at you?

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how rugby players see boxers

>>42270325
>getting into fights at any stage of life
heh.. Middle classes...

>>42274695

>Thinking I'd ever let my girlfriend in a club

Just goes to show what kind of people fall for the boxing meme.

If you faggots try to fight me and "kick my ass" I will shoot you.

Keep believing in the shit you see in Rocky IV and Real Steel.

You want to fight me your not going to get it because Im not a fucking kid trying to prove anything. You can bet your ass that if you lay your hands off of me after I've tried to get away that you won't be able to bob and weave 3x.45acp and a $20,000.00 medical bill if your bitch ass doesn't bleed out.

>>42281632
low test fag spotted

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How I see everyone.

I remember my middleschool had a kickboxing class that I joined once. I was tall and unathletic, though not fat or skelly, and the teacher's prodigy who had been in various boxing classes over like 5 years was my closest matchup according to him. I remember my first fight was with him like two days after joining, and I still had the KICK in kickboxing stuck way in my head, so for the entire match I kept using my really long legs to fuck his and gutshot him every once in a while. By the end he was frustrated to tears over getting toyed with and I figured as long as I stay larger than average with longer reach than average in my legs and arms I wouldn't need any kungfu or boxing bullshit. Now I'm 6'2 with orangutan arms, so boxing is redundant for me. Maybe limblets and manlets need it to feel tough but it's still a joke

>>42282526
>reach advantage is an advantage
WHO WOULD HAVE TOUGHT???

>>42274629
>Because a skilled small guy is going to get utterly crushed by a first time fighter who is a lot bigger and physically stronger.
>This is why practicing martial arts is only useful in official competitions
>In street fights lifting will be of a lot more use to you due to the size and strength advantage

How does it feel to be so wrong anon?

>>42270600
function of location

>>42282582
Exactly what I'm saying. If I have reach and/or size on an opponent, and I have those on like 90% of people, I don't need boxing even if they have amateur training.

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>>42270067
God damn, this is the worst fucking insult I've ever seen.

>>42278822
in short, yes
in long, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

>>42282655
lets be honest its a combination of technique, muscle, size and the element of surprise

a small guy with a lot of technique could potentially win against someone twice his size

>>42282735
>REEEE YOUR INSULT SUCKS
lol

>>42270358
Enjoy having your head stomped in by my friend while I bite a chunk out of your arm when you try to apply a rear naked choke in a "real fight" kek.

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>>42281632
>Real Steel
You know how I know you're underage? Out of the thousands of boxing movies out there, you pick this one as an example? Nigga, that movie isn't even about real boxing, it's about robots boxing, how does that relate to anything? Get the fuck off my screen you little shit.

>>42282746
>Gets BTFO
>Just rephrases what I said in le ebic greentext xD
Come on son, can't you manage a real comeback?

Also
>lol
Back to 9Gag, please.

>>42270383
You're a real tough guy anon.