I work a tough manual labor job work out 5x a week and still

>No electronics after 8

I read a couple of pages on my android (currently reading Harry Potter) and fall asleep quickly. Another method I use is to masturbate

>>42252371
I read physical books before bed and have an active sex life. Im starting to think i might need serious meds

>>42252416
You overthink?

Try meditation.

>>42252352
mindfulness training to remove the excess thoughts helps, managed to get the last 2 days of my last shitty workweek where I had to get up at 5,30 am, with somewhat more proper sleep. And yes it will affect your gain. I had so much cortisol that my stomach gained fat, even though the rest of my body is on very low BF.

stress management its called I think, thats the game you are in, as am I.

No caffeine after 2pm. Either that or cut it completely. Probably best to just cut it completely son.

kind of related, you reckon itd be worthwhile to run a full on tren, test etc cycle and just do 5 days a week manual labour you'd probably get pretty juicy right and be the best damn labourer on site

>>42252352

>no caffeine after 6

am or pm?

if am then cut it out

if pm, how do you expect to be able to sleep? you're probably drinking way too much coffee

>>42252352
Stop having caffeine at all
Zero, nada

Meditation and zinc.

You'll be able to enter a coma on demand.

18h00 is too late for coffee.

I cut it completely and replace it with one green tea in the morning, another one at noon on work days. The caffeine curve of the is about 8 hours. So by 20h00, I'm good to sleep.

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>>42252352
Mirin' neck

>>42252352
read "effortless sleep" you'll find it on libgen ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis for the urls) + asking God for good sleep. really helped me a lot out back in hard days brah.