Is lifting natty a waste of time?

>>42252282
>he didn't neck train

>>42252282
yes if you only do isolations otherwise you can look decent

>>42252306

>You have to do compounds to make gains as a natty

When will this meme die?

The body of a man, the face of a 12 year old. Looks weird desu

>>42252282
newfag here. which one is the natty one?

>>42252536
the one who uses #naturalbodybuilding tag on social media. so the guy on the right

Depends how realistic your goals are if you want a physique that is achievable FOR YOU naturally - stay natural but have realistic expectations about what is achievable, how long it will take and the dedication required to get there.

There's nothing wrong with taking steroids - it's not win button. It still requires thought, good training and nutrition. Sure some people get on gear out of laziness or impatience but a lot of people strive for goals that they couldn't achieve naturally - be it size of strength or an aesthetic. They are willing to put thier life on the line and be convicted of a crime to reach thier goal and that level of commitment is not something that should be negatively stigmatised like normie culture does. Everyone pretending like all pro athletes and celebrities making these movie transformations aren't using gear and labelling anyone who gets caught as a cheater or spreading faux science about the risks of steroids; that's bs.

Basically it depends what you want.

>>42252731
>It still requires thought, good training and nutrition.
It literally doesn't. You just need to lift and eat a lot.

>>42252386
You make muscle mass gains much faster with compounds than without them, natty or not.

>>42252282
would a beard save him?

>>42252731
>There's nothing wrong with taking steroids - it's not win button

http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/steroids-vs-natural/

>Group 2 did NOT do any form of exercise, but they received weekly injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate. (Drug users doing no weight training.)

>Group 3 DID exercise, but they did NOT receive any form of steroids or drugs. (Natural guys doing weight training.)

>Group 2 (no exercise, drug use) was able to build about 7 pounds of muscle. That’s not a typo. The group receiving testosterone injections and NOT working out at all gained 7 pounds of muscle.

>Group 3 (exercise, natural) was able to build about 4 pounds of muscle.