Vegan Thread

>>42251687
More Alexey Voyevoda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIQvH3k_I6s

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>>42251687
which vegetable has more calories than meat per gram? I fucking hate eating a lot but I need calories to maintain

>>42251783
Literally every nut ever
Seitan if you want a low kcal high protein chicken/tuna substitute in terms of macros

>>42251783
I'm not sure exactly, but these are all high calorie:
Peanut butter
Oatmeal
Banana
Nuts in general
Oil in general
Avocados
Amaranth
Quinoa

>>42251802
I've got two

>>42251818
Better keep those on and supplement with nuts from the grocery store anon

>>42251802
>>42251815
I'm asking for a vegetable, not fruits

>>42251847
Whatever man.


vegetable:
relating to plants or plant life, especially as distinct from animal life or mineral substances.
"vegetable matter"

>>42251687
Fuck veganism. Pescan here who eats fish. Even healthier than veganism.

>>42251882
Except mercury, concentrated pollutants, cholesterol, etc.

lol what an idiot.

>>42251783
Beef has 250 kcal/100g.
Chicken has 165 kcal/100g

Peanuts are 567 kcal/100g
Cashews are 553 kcal/100g
Soy is 446 kcal/100g.
Oats are 389 kcal/100g.
Corn is 365 kcal/100g.
Flour is 364 kcal/100g.
So if you're looking just for calories, macros be damned, and you don't care about your endocrine system, you can definitely cover your needs with plant stuff.

>>42251882
This is me. Except I started 9 years ago before pescan became a fad.

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>>42251900
Nice.

>>42251897
>and you don't care about your endocrine system
Please explain
>>42251900
Good for you

>>42251975
Are you making a point about how desperate meat eaters are to try to make vegans look bad?

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>>42251933
I don't know much, so take it as just what I think.
There are a lot of hormones that are made from cholesterol (testosterone included). I know that the liver can produce some cholesterol when needed, but with this kind of diet it will be forced to metabolize sucrose and glucose a lot more than normal. So you risk overloading it.
Another aspect would be insulin, which will be continuously elevated, as all these foods have a high glycemic index and load. High insulin means low HGH, and low leptin.
But again, this is my understanding, I encourage you to learn from better sources than fit, if you really want to know what's up.

>>42252011
Animal fat is more dangerous for diabetics than a bit of sucrose and glucose actually. But I really appreciate you acknowledging that you aren't an expert and for people to not take your word for it. Not being sarcastic, genuinely appreciate it. A rare and honorable trait.

>>42252011
>There are a lot of hormones that are made from cholesterol (testosterone included). I know that the liver can produce some cholesterol when needed
At least you seem to be subtly admitting that dietary cholesterol DOES increase serum cholesterol, that's an excellent start
>but with this kind of diet it will be forced to metabolize sucrose and glucose a lot more than normal
Define "this kind of diet". Everyone and their mother eats rice and pasta unless on keto
And I'd argue that nuts, whole grains (oats, whole wheat pasta etc) and greens are pretty low in sugars
>Another aspect would be insulin, which will be continuously elevated, as all these foods have a high glycemic index and load. High insulin means low HGH, and low leptin.
Pretty sure beans, greens, nuts and soy products are really low on GI
Also pretty sure that easily digestible protein like whey and chicken breast is literally as high as sugar on the GI

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>>42251687
100g of soybeans = 14g of protein 153 cal
100g of chicken breast = 28g of protein 134 cal
This is the power of faggotry.

>>42252109
Who pays Peta to make this shit? The nut industry?

>>42252094
Soya protein isolate
Protein content per 100g: 81g

And you don't have to sacrifice your dick size with phthalates or worry about added cholesterol, hormones, carcinogens, arsenic, etc.

Why'd you even bother?

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>>42252069
>subtly admitting that dietary cholesterol DOES increase serum cholesterol
I realize I've been unclear in what I've said previously. I don't think dietary increases serum cholesterol, but I do think that saturated fats do increase it. And saturated fats are very rare in a vegan diet.
As for your other points, you are right that green vegetables (lettuce, crucifers, spinach), nuts (except cashews) and soy beans are low sugar and low GI. But starchy grains are very sugar dense. Starch is basically glucose mollecules chained together, and they are very easily broken down early in digestion.
A list of glycemic indices:
glucose: 100
table sugar: 63
whey: technically 0, but it is insulinogenic
chicken breast: <15
beef: 0
beans: 40-60 (depending on cooking)
rice: 90
peas: 50
soy beans: 15-20
soy milk: ~40

>>42252094
>cherrypicking the best animal product vs an average plant product
>what is tofu, tempeh and seitan

>>42252094
Spirulina
100 g = 57.5 g protein

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>>42252174
>nut industry
definitely, dude

>>42252094
Hemp hearts
100g = 30.4 g protein

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>>42251687

>>42252239
>I don't think dietary increases serum cholesterol
It doesn't matter what you think, what matters is the science.
The studies vegans will show you prove that blood cholesterol is raised by dietary cholesterol, the chaosandpain crowd will disagree. But here's the catch: Literally every study that denies the link between dietary and serum cholesterol is poorly designed. They do not take into account the fact that if your blood cholesterol is already high that eating more cholesterol won't increase it further, whereas having normal cholesterol (50-70) will be affected greatly even by a single egg
Another trick they employ in their studies is timing. They have the subjects' cholesterol measured fasted in the morning, they eat a high cholesterol meal at night and measure their cholesterol again next morning. The facade of honest, well designed research is that they measured both the before and the after during the same times of the day, but the dishonesty lies in the fact that a lot of time passed between the meal and the measuring time. Studies measuring cholesterol immediately before and shortly after eating eggs show a huge spike in blood cholesterol.

I'd like sources for the table at the bottom of your post, I really doubt that beans are literally as high GI as sugar. REALLY doubt it.

Furthermore, a more honest analysis would look at how insulinogenic a food item is, not how high GI it is.

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>>42252273

>>42252307
Thank you for this post.

>>42252307
>what matters is vegan science*

>>42252273
he has a very small dick

meat makes meat

>>42252316
Be jelly all you want, but apparently he passed testing and even went through a lie detector to prove he's natty.

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>>42252326
So he must be natty then.

>>42252325
No.
https://nutritionfacts.org/2011/09/15/eating-chicken-may-lead-to-a-smaller-penis/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976

>>42252192
>>42252241
>>42252257
>>42252267
Dude lets spend stupid amounts of money on some weird isolate compound so we can pat ourselves on the back. And you melenial faggots wonder why you can't afford homes.

>>42252343
>seitan, tofu and tempeh
>weird isolate compound
>expensive
Were you dropped on your head as a child anon?

>>42252381
Tofu and tempeh have shit macros seitian seems ok but is expensive and hard to find for me at least. Most of the food you name are soy based. I can pull you up a dozen meme articles about soy being bad for you just like you can about meat being bad for you.

>>42252412
These are not memes, it' vegan science.

>>42252241
You actually think tofu is good food? What the fuck... it's garbage tier.

>>42252412
The claims about soy being bad for you are myths though, the studies on meat being bad for you are up to date, all encompassing, and peer reviewed.

>>42252412
>Tofu and tempeh have shit macros
If that is shit macros to you, you must literally only consume meat with zero accompaniment of pasta or rice, and only have eggs for breakfast without even the yolk, or toast, or some fruit

>ITT: Intellectually challenged non-lifters with a fad diet

>>42252307
Yeah, I made a mistake with the beans GI. It's 40-60 relative to the GI of bread, but relative to glucose it's 27-40.
http://beaninstitute.com/beans-glycemic-index/
I guess I got my info about dietary cholesterol from articles based on the studies that you don't accept. I don't think we can change each other's minds on this topic then.

>>42252481
>I don't think we can change each other's minds on this topic then.
Come on, weren't my arguments good? Serious.

>>42252423
Lets see some of them peer reviewed studies then.
>>42252430
Yes they are shit macros. My carb of choice is usually potatoes or rice, I thought we were talking about good protein sources?

Reminder that cholesterol level doesn't mean shit and poorly relate to heart health. A better one is HDL level which is closely related to coronary heart diseases. HDL is not addected by any kind of diet. You should just not be fat (have a good fat%) and not be a potato couch. Everything else is bullshit.

>>42252509
https://pastebin.com/RYmSEQUW

>>42252526
The first link is a youtube video, good day.

>>42252543
From one of the authors of a huge study on cancer....

Nice excuse though.

>>42252496
I would need to go into those studies and check their methodology. And when I find the things you mention, I would agree with your points, but when I would find a fairer methodology (by your criteria), we would have to debate about some other minutiae.
And anyway, it's not like our positions are that different here. You say dietary cholesterol raises blood cholesterol, I say saturated fats raise it. Those kinda go hand in hand. I'm not aware of any food that has zero cholesterol but has high sat fats, or the opposite. It would take a very specific study to convince me, something like feeding of the same amount of cholesterol, but different amounts of sat fats, and then the other way around, with measuring of blood cholesterol as a tracker.
So it's not that your argument doesn't make sense, or wasn't good enough, it's that I would need to do a lot of digging to check it, and all for not much of a difference in the end.

>tfw I'm a meat eater who pushes vegan agenda
I find veganism correct on the moral side but becoming a vegan myself seems so far away lol

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>>42252619
The only way to be on the modal side is to kill yourself.
Your mere existence is detrimental to the other species.

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>>42252619
It's so easy. Just do it and you'll see. Here:
www.pinterest.com/vfortheanimals

I went vegan overnight after watching www.meat.org and I think doing it overnight is definitely the best way to do it. It's fun trying all the new foods and you never look back once you realize how fucking good it tastes and how easy it is. It's just a shift in consciousness I guess. Once you stop seeing animal products as food, you don't think of yourself as restricted at all. Especially when stuff like Gardein exists.

>>42252619
Are you me?
ASL?

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>there are people who listen to PETA

>>42252795
You realize he's vegan now, right?

Still an idiot I'm sure, but vegan.

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is it that time again?

>>42252801

I didn't say that there is anything wrong with being a vegan. I did say that there is something wrong by being affiliated with the cumguzzlers over at PETA.

>>42252822
His video on PETA was filled with lies and logical fallacies though. Not saying PETA is absolutely perfect, but he's a legit retard.

>>42252801

Why is Penn "le trashman" Jillette an "idiot"?

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if veganism is so great how come every athlete who dominates their sport eats meat?

>>42252899
Most people are meat eaters you fuckwit, so every vegan in a sport is 1% competing against 99%. It's pretty remarkable how many top athletes there are who are vegan considering that.

>>42252920
>so every vegan in a sport is 1% competing against 99%.
but if vegan is the healthiest diet wouldn't the top athletes switch to it to help them perform better?
seems like the ppl who win more eat meat. and the ppl who lose more eat vegan.

>>42252931
A ton of athletes ARE switching to vegan diets to help them perform better. What a retarded assumption.

>>42252931
Also health is a complex subject and athletic feats are not necessarily indicators of good health. In fact some athletes have terrible health.

Vegans are pure COPE. The mental gymnastics are amazing. So one guy just asks "If veganism is superior, why don't all serious atheletes switch to it ?". A simple question. But watch in wonder as vegans distort the very definition of "health" itself to fit their shitty ideology. Wonderful. It is a cult at this point, and I am convinced that vegans are mentally ill much like obese people.
And this is coming from a vegetarian person. Literally fuck off retards

>>42252940
>A ton of athletes ARE switching to vegan diets to help them perform better.
like who?

>>42252949
federer is old af and still the healthiest player on the tennis tour at the age of 35.

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>>42252992

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFOZlvouY7M
Mr. Universe is vegan.

>>42253000
David Carter for one.

And more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/these-athletes-went-vegan--and-stayed-strong/2016/11/22/58c2e674-865c-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html

>>42253684
>David Carter
The Chicago Bears signed Carter to a one-year contract on July 28, 2015.[4] On September 5, 2015, he was released by the Bears.[5]

damn

Every since I switched to veganism, I've had this insatiable lust for cocks but I was a straight man before. Help? I don't want be gay.

>>42253631
And he switched to be a vegan about a year after he became Mr Universe.

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>>42253977
Why are meat eaters always so defensive? Christ. You act like this is a crusade. Can't just find it interesting that Mr. Universe is vegan, have to find something negative to comment about.

>>42254003
Mr universe is also on roids, roids aren't very natural or healthy now are they mr vegan.

>>42254010
Mrs.* And probably not - to be honest I've never actually researched them myself, just always hear things like they make your penis small or your clit big. Does every bodybuilder have to be all natty for you guys to be happy? How come you're cool with it if they're a meat eater?

>>42254024
Because they don't preach about health while dumping 1gram of tren into their ass

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>>42254010
Also, vegans aren't typically the ones making the "hurr durr but it's natural" argument. Just sayin.

>>42252619
It's actually easy as shit once you make the switch. I could understand it being difficult if you go out to eat often but if you're just cooking at home most days it's very simple.

>>42254050
Yes they do though.

>>42254024
>x bodybuilder is now vegan meat eaters btfo
You brought it up, I don't care what he eats.

>>42254084
I just thought it was neat. He seems like a pretty sweet dude. Also he said his performance improved didn't he?

>>42254065
>doesn't compete in anything
>just debates destiny on fucking yt
lmao

>>42254107
No idea I didn't watch, if he's happy with his diet and performance more power to him.

>>42251882
Found the retard

>>42255369
>cholesteral (fucking lol at this retard spelling)

"When you eat eggs, you aren't eating LDL or HDL. You are eating dietary cholesterol, saturated fat, plus a wholee host of fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E,K), omega 3 fatty acids, choline, and numerous other helpful vitamins. It is your body that produces LDL and HDL from what you eat. In general, eggs can increase your HDL and can also minimally increase your LDL. But the more important question is do they increase your risk for heart disease and stroke? We don’t die from high cholesterol. We die from heart attacks and strokes, so in the end, that is what we need to prevent.

It turns out, for the general population, there is no solid evidence that eggs increase our cardiovascular risk."

>sodium
not necessarily a bad thing, especially when considering this entire board consists of active lifestyles. you NEED sodium, as well as adequate hydration to maximise performance. Drink a glass of water moron.

>protein
6g, yeah, from one egg. Who eats one egg when they make scrambled eggs? fucking idiot.

>calcium
who gives a FUCK about 40% higher in some random ass mineral. Eggs have vitamins (A, D, E,K), omega 3 fatty acids, choline and a shit tonne more (as mentioned above,

heres one they didn't account for

>taste

eggs are delicious, tofu tastes bad on its own.
EAT EGGS THEY ARE GOOD

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>>42255430
>It turns out, for the general population, there is no solid evidence that eggs increase our cardiovascular risk."
Bullshit
Heart Disease:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/108/22/2757.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426
>nutrients
Pic related. It's fair because it's isocaloric. If anything, it's biased against tofu, because on the eggs I assumed boiled (which taste like ass), not scrambled that has butter in it
>taste
lol ok man eat eggs without salt and pepper and tell me how good they taste
>b-b-but of course you'd add salt and pepper, maybe even some hot sauce
Yeah, same here. Of course if you eat tofu plain it's going to taste plain

>>42255557
fwiw i eat eggs raw (uncooked, no spices) and i like the taste

>>42255557
Thank you for this.

Guys you can still body build while vegan, all you have to do is eat a metric fuckton of chickpeas every day

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>>42255430
>>42255557
>>42255369
>>42255605
Oh god, this one's even better. I decided to make up for the 5 less calories in tofu with 1.5 g nooch (vegan cheese). Now the calories are way closer to equal.
LOOK AT THE NUTRIENTS
CLUCKED BY FUCKING TOFU
fucking kek
less protein
less vitamins except 1 or 2
less minerals except selenium
K E K
E
K
>>42255586
Anon, I ate tons of meat, cheese and eggs for 24 years. I ate everything, I had a very curious appetite. The 3 foods I never managed to happily consume and ask for seconds were okras, organ meats and raw eggs.

Veganism is a religion for mentally ill people.

>>42255795
>religion
>based on cold, hard facts and logic
Pick one

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>>42255891
>cold, hard facts and logic
:^)

>>42255930
wish i could eat their flesh raw while they scream :(

>>42255930
>all vegans subscribe to peta
That's like saying if you drive a hybrid then you must be a greenpeace faggot

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>>42255891
cold... hard facts??... no... cold hard facts.... no....cold, hard, facts?.... hard.... cold facts?

>>42251687
He is actually weak for his size, so nothing impressive.His 2017 result are especially subpar and not substantial enough to "raise the bar" by any means, its barely enough to push the vegan meme.

>>42252109
>The milk industry is driven by MONEY
Kek, PETA is so fucking autistic.

>>42252307
Now all you need is some science to show that elevated cholesterol is a bad thing.

>>42255960
>if you drive a hybrid then you must be a greenpeace faggot
But that is in fact true. That's their target demographic, where all their marketing is aimed.

>>42252920
Nate and Nick Diaz are vegan. Patrik Baboumian is a world record holder and he's a vegan. Timothy Bradley and David Haye are both former world champion boxers and are both vegan. Daniel Bryan and Austin Aries are both vegan pro wrestlers.

>>42256197
>Nate and Nick Diaz are vegan
they eat fish dumbass

>>42256224
https://www.riseofthevegan.com/blog/nate-diaz-speaks-about-vegan-diet-for-first-time-since-beating-mcgregor-and-says-it-played-a-significant-role-in-his-success

>"I like to promote the vegan industry," Nate enthuses. "I hear a lot of criticism from people saying you need meat to be strong and for recovery, and it’s a bunch of bullshit, because I train harder than everybody. It’s so easy to argue with these people. I’m like, ‘Dude, have you done a tenth of what I’ve done?’"

>>42256161
>>42255557
>>42255635

Even if you ignore cholesterol and sat fats (which you shouldn't), tofu is still the better choice. Unless you want sulfur farts instead of gains of course

>>42252326
>lie detector
You know polygraph tests are complete bs right?

>>42256294
>picking a brain dead spic as a spokesperson.

Well done.

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>>42252326
Wow. Well then he's full natty for sure, no doubt.

>>42256314
You're just asserting that dietary cholesterol and sat fats are this horrible thing. It's dumb and dishonest, but I suspect you're just parroting crap other vegans have told you. Breastmilk is full of saturated fat.

Tofu is garbage food, its bioavailability is only 64, compared to eggs and most meats around 100. It's just processed soy, basically junk food. And they market it to vegan retards because they can make some crazy markups on it.

>>42251687

A month ago. Been vegan exactly for a month today and not regretting it. Still making natty gains and gaining weight and muscle mass

Just eat 2 steaks and a half. They tasted great

So do vegans hate muslims?

>>42255557
>those studies

you didn't refute any of my points, eggs are good for you. I actually think a vegetarian/vegan diet is great for most people, but I'm not eating what most people eat. I am on /fit/, obivously im controlling my calories, eating sufficient fibre, eating high protein etc etc etc.


eggs are a great source of nutrients, end of

>>42256294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LES2OYPFIzU

>>42256605
What kind of question is this? Being vegan doesn't dictate whether you hate Muslims or not.

Me and VG hate Islam though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pm06CC9-Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMU1O4qe8k

>>42256502
kek this

>>42256502
>You're just asserting that dietary cholesterol and sat fats are this horrible thing.
Yes
>It's dumb
No, you just dislike it because it means you'd have to give up your delicious eggs
>and dishonest
I provided nutritional facts and research
>but I suspect you're just parroting crap other vegans have told you
Are you blind? I provided nutritional information and peer reviewed research
>Breastmilk is full of saturated fat
Yes, and?
>Tofu is garbage food
Wrong
>its bioavailability is only 64 compared to eggs and most meats around 100
Now that's dishonesty. Source or fuck off.
>It's just processed soy, basically junk food.
That's not true at all. Here is how tofu is made:
"Tofu is a soybean product … it’s made from the curds of soymilk (so it’s kind of similar to cheese, just using soy milk as a base rather than milk). Those curds are pressed into blocks and can be made into different textures.
Soy milk is ... produced by soaking dried soybeans and grinding them in water"
That's like saying that puttina a banana and berries in the freezer and then blending the fruit with water is a processed food and basically garbage

anybody notice how ppl become vegan for one month. then act experts on health and nutrition. while forgetting to mention prior to this they spent decades eating "disgusting" meat

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>>42256727

>while forgetting to mention prior to this they spent decades eating "disgusting" meat

I fail to see the problem. Vegans often talk openly how they used to eat loads of meat, eggs and dairy in the past but made the switch to a vegan diet for a variety of reasons. It's not something to hide.

It's the allegory of the cave. One day you'll wake up and see that you lived your entire life the wrong way. The ultimate redpill

>>42256637
>http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/108/22/2757.full.pdf
This says that LDL is positively correlated with atherosclerosis
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
This says that vegans who ate beef increased their cholesterol
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
This says that if we were made to eat cholesterol we wouldn't get heart disease
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426
This says that your LDL should not be above 70
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1534437/
This says that 1) dietary cholesterol DOES raise blood cholesterol and 2) the higher your blood cholesterol, the less extra dietary cholesterol affects you
The picture here >>42255635 shows that tofu is better than eggs

If you really can't see how eggs are a bad food choice from every conceivable aspect I can't help you. But this is /fit/, not /muh taste buds/

>>42256831
>>42256831
>eggs are a bad food choice

This is my issue. They are not.

>LDL
They also raise HDL, the "good" cholesterol

>irrelevant

>article hosted on ncbi doesn't make it a study, top kek

>LDL is bad, well duh, but alongside a helthy diet? hmmm

>yep, LDL. again. yawn.

>tofu is better.

okay, I mean, it isn't. But even if it was, which it isn't, that doesn't make eggs bad.

lets be serious, you don't like animal products. Thats the issue you have. Eggs are a great food for everyone else, stop being a faggot

>>42257123
Dismissing LDL with "yawn" doesn't mean you've won the argument, only ignored it
>okay, I mean, it isn't.
It is, literally click the image to enlarge it
>But even if it was, which it isn't,
which it is*, again, click on the iage to enlarge it
eggs have
>less protein
>less omegas
>less vitamins
>less minerals
They literally only win in biotin, choline and selenium, and lose in everything else
>that doesn't make eggs bad.
Holy shit you are dense
>lets be serious
I am, you aren't
>you don't like animal products.
Believe me, I absolutely love the taste and still crave steak every now and then. But I don't claim it's healthy or ethical
>Thats the issue you have.
The issue YOU have is you ignore science because you like the taste
>Eggs are a great food for everyone else
Literally no
>stop being a faggot
How about you start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine_deficiency

Posting while eating my haddock <3

>>42258229
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine_deficiency
Anon, there must be something wrong with your link. I ctrl+F'ed "vegan" and got 0/0. Could it be because you're a fucking retard?
It is literally impossible to be iodine deficient unless you stop using salt

>>42258278
You need 5g of iodine fortified salt each day to get 200mcg of it. Do you really think vegans consume that much? Rekt.

>>42252037

this crosses the line, this is the kind of shit that kills people. I'm from the land of hipsters so I have seen meme vegan diets since high school in the early 00s and have seen first hand the damaging long term effects of it both on body and mind. A healthy diet consists of a good balance between healthy whole foods and unprocessed meats.

You can meme all you want but I've known two people who thought they could cure cancer with raw veganism and black salve instead of chemo and they're both dead now.

Don't give shit advice to people with actual health problems if you're a defective unoriginal zealot.

>>42258437
>cure cancer with raw veganism and black salve instead of chemo
No serious vegan would recommend that. Veganism and pseudoscience are often wrongly conflated.
>>42258356
...yes?

>>42258465

>No serious vegan would recommend that. Veganism and pseudoscience are often wrongly conflated.

Wrong, they are literally the same thing. If you think differently you need to be put on antipsychotic drugs. You're just on the bandwagon, child.

>>42258465
>...yes?
What would you say to people who have to restrict their salt intake because they tend to develop high blood pressure? 5g of table salt, fortified or not, is kinda impossible to reach for these peeps.

>>42258487
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're shitposting, not this retarded
>>42258534
Potatoes, some berries etc. Don't remember everything by heart but literally just Google "vegan sources of iodine".
It's 2017, this is easy

>>42258737
>Potatoes, some berries etc.
This very much depends on quality of soil. My local sources give single digits or 10s mcg iodine for the things you listed. There's no consistency in iodine content when talking about plant sources picked up from the ground. You either need to eat stuff from the see (Seaweed & Fish) or consume fortified food. Your advice is not as good as you might think.

>>42258848
Okay did some googling
First, the recommended iodine intake is 150 μg, not 200
Second, I don't know where you got the single digit number, every source I looked at say that 3 potatoes a day have you more than covered, with literally zero salt. One medium potato sits at 60 μg, 40% RDA.
Third, one and a half ounces of cranberries cover you, without salt or potatoes (an ounce gives 100 μg)
So far you have been extremely dishonest. Nobody eats meat because iodine. Just admit your only excuse is taste.
Fourth, mate, you are moving the goalposts here. Do you have a blood pressure problem? If no, then you can eat salt and the iodine deficiency is an excuse.

>>42251687
i actually made it my goal to eat more red meat this month!
Im eating about a pound a day now and already have more energy and strength"
Stay delusional, green cucks! :^)

>>42251687

can't you cucks take your pseudoscience religion to another board already? you all have the same mentality of my 3 year old nephew

>>42255121
Nice roids

>>42252811
Noice