Fallen

>you will never live in japan where cuddle cafes exist and you can cuddle girls for a price

why literally live

Don't do it Anon. It's illegal and amoral. Just be yourself and attract a qt gf

>>42217619
>work at a warehouse

so you work 40+ hrs at a warehouse for min wage?

get a fucking restaurant job.

>>42217644
I make 20/hour...
I dont care about the money I just need a better life.

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I'm 28 years old.. I live with my parents.
I have no friends.
I have a part time job at a box factory.
I'm a kissless virgin.
The only love I've felt was the soft texture of astroglide and water based lubes similar to it with the combination of my rough strong texture of my palm.

My only hope is to become a pro fighter if I want to make any decent money to support a family.
I have no amateur fights as of now.

>>42217643
>illegal

no

>amoral

hmm

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>>42217659
But I just need to cuddle

>>42217643
>amoral

more like.... amorous....

>be me
>Male, 27, looging bretty good, 175cm or whatever.
>always have job, into artsy shit, fucked 57 girls, gona become a nurse durring the next year
>/fit/ for 5 years but did cc and permabulk until recently
>rollos of tounges with 17 yo when i was 22.
>so now ive arranged a third "i cook you massage" date where im gona deny her peen for the third time this year.

She is fat though, doesnt make me hard. Butt a real weirdo so thats fun.

>last encounter:
>masage/cuddle where she for real says "hey im really horny"
>show her my last sexual encounter which, and i shit you not, is her hot teacher
>backstory:
>matched with classmate from 8 years ago on tinder
>now she is a teacher at the school we went to

>>42217680
Maybe 57 grills is hella much

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>>42217680
yeah. right.

>>42217650

Dude, switch jobs. Just take a month or two off and look for other things. Unless you have debt or something that absolutely necessitates you working right now you have no excuses.

Escortwise, just do a google search for your town, you'll find something. Most of them will also understand, and will have had clients like you before.

>>42217656
>My only hope is to become a pro fighter

Yeah, no, this must be a troll. In case it isn't, fighting is definitely not a good way to monetize your time and well-trained body, unless you are extremely gifted at it, which you seem not to be.

Go for jobs in construction, oil drilling, farming. Most of them will have some positions for untrained Americans, but you might have to move (esp. with oil stuff). I am 100% sure your parents will help you get set up in another town if you find a job elsewhere. After a year or two switch jobs or keep the one you have if you like it and get educated in it, whatever that may mean.

>>42217699
>unless you are extremely gifted at it, which you seem not to be.
why do you say that?

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>>42217619
1. Get a burner/prepaid phone on amazon. These are cheap you don't want to hit up whores on your personal phone.

If you live on the west coast of the US I would sign up for a service called nightshift. It claims to be nation wide, but most of the whores are in Cali/Vegas. If you live in the UK, AdultWork is awesome. Met the best whore there last summer when I was London and not only was she a complete freak in bed, but she somehow made me feel loved, attractive, confident and safe.

Anyways, first I would start with some basic location filters and check out the profiles of girls I find attractive. In SF/LA (prices depend on city, but SF/LA are large cities with money so its more expensive here)

<$100 - Crackwhore
$100-160 - Pretty much just fuck and go. Rarely will the whore will be into it, and shes just trying to get you outta there.
$160-$300 - This is the base price I like to go for, for an hour worth of time. Depending on the girl she might have different limits (I always try to get blowjobs with no condoms), and the price difference here usually means how freaky/attractive she looks. So $300 whore will either be super sexy or if she's not, will be willing to do almost anything in bed (usually the only limit is whores won't do vaginal penetration without a condom).
$600+ - Pornstar/10/10 model no limits.

Usually you call/text them, let them know you are interested in an hour long session. They usually post shit like "references or need work info via linkedin", but that has never happened to me. My fist couple times I said I was a newbie, then I left reviews and now I point whores to that. Once you agree on a time and price she will give you a general area to be in.

About ~30 minutes to the time, she will give you her address. Go in, say hi, place money on the counter, and the rest is up to you or the whore. I usually like whores to take control, because if I have to make the first move, I'd rather go to a bar and pick up chicks.

Pic related

>>42217737
Do you tip a whore?

Serious question.

>>42217755
Only if you like her. They are pretty much up front about prices and as long as you don't short her, she will be happy (apparently a lot for guys try to negotiate).

I will only tip if I really like the girl and I want her to think I'm "special" that way she will either let me come over on really short notice, not watch the clock as hard or do shit she won't normally do. I've only ever tipped like 2 whores and the first one (allegedly) donated my tip to charity because she ended up having to reschedule our first appointment and she felt bad about received the tip. (I don't really care cause she was amazing, and I've spent more money on women in shitty dates that either didn't fuck or were terrible in bed).

>>42217777
>donated my tip to charity

wow what a waste of quads on a retard who actually believes his tip didn't go straight to the crack dealer or pimp.

>>42217737
>>42217777
Oh forgot a pretty important tip - when starting out, only see whores with reviews, and read the reviews so you get an idea of what to expect. I avoid non-reviewed whores cause 1. they might be a fucking cop or 2. they might be a fucking scammer.

>>42217790
Do you know the meaning of allegedly mate? Do you really think I fully bought that story?

Any thoughts on Tijuana for hookers?

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You don't need a women to cuddle man. You need Jesus. Not even kidding.

>>42217841
I know I do. I need help most of all. I don't need any sexual things I want to hold a conversation with an escort. That's what's romantic to me for some reason.

>>42217857
I wanted to do that as well man. Not sexual. Just intimatacy without fear of judgment. That's what you get with Christ.

>>42217864
You certainly know a bit of the bible

>>42217619
Where are you at OP? And how much will you pay for an hour's cuddle session? I'm totally open to this kind of thing given the opposition doesn't stink to high heavens and is somewhat normal looking.

>>42218006
604/778

>>42218006
are you a grill?

>>42218018
Yes. Biologically female.

OP here. I just gave my area code

>>42218035
>604/778

I don't understand, does this mean you're likely in the States?

>>42218073
No I live close to states. I'm a leaf

>>42218087
A

>>42218087
I'm all the way across the globe, it wasn't meant to be... all the best though.

>>42217734
You're pushing 30 with no record.

If it's what you actually want more than anything then by all means chase the dream, but at 28 it's time to consider other options.

>>42218097
Its ok Ill find a gf when I stop being depressed.

Jesus fuck this thread is sad. You want to pay a fucking hooker to talk to you? That's pathetic man, and just a waste of money. If you're that lonely just head to a strip club, talk to one of those whores and give them money. Or try calling one of those phone sex hotlines. I'm sure one of those girls will definitely talk to you about whatever, good only knows how depressing that job muat be

>>42217650
I used to work in film/media where I was getting fat and depressed and now work on a farm for $8 an hour, 7 days in a row whilst also studying full time. It is hard labour but the gains it's given me without having to find time for the gym and the emotional satisfaction I get from the animals makes it worth it. Plus I know all the work I do is for the immediate benefit of a sweet fluffy innocent creature and not some corporate bastard.

>>42218108
>You want to pay a fucking hooker to talk to you?

High end escorts are generally well-read and good conversationalists, it's like half the job and not out of the ordinary at all.

>>42218015

Canada? Just go to a massage parlor with good reviews. There are websites that review this stuff. When you're 1 on 1, you can say you just want to cuddle and ask about how much you should tip. They should be fine with it.

>My life's shit

Go be born in Africa or the Middle East cunts, who cares what your boss or that feminist bitch thinks of you. At least your not going to sleep at night waiting for a missile or some fuckheads in a jeep to come chop your old man up and abduct and rape you

>>42218128
Your age ends with "teen". There's simply no way you can be an adult and not realize your point is the oldest fallacy on the planet.

>>42217619
Tell us about your life anon. Tell us so other anon on this forum dont make the same mistake as you

>>42218124
>>42218124
You are a special kind of retard if you're going to give a woman 600+ dollars just to fucking talk. At that price banging should be mandatory

>>42218128
So you're saying that soul-crushing loneliness and a feeling of absolute uncertainty and a pervasive sense of feeling lost, alone, and like a complete failure isn't a bad thing?

>>42218128
Quality of life is all subjective when on a personal level.

It's always easy to tell people starving african children have it harder. But they literally think aeroplanes are space craft sent from God.

>>42218152
Well after that I don't want to. My mistake was getting this 40+ hour job which I don't want to quit but the condition is getting worse. I lost all social contact because of it.

>>42217619
I don't like the word "cuddle". In my experience, only faggots and closet homos use it. Please reconsider.

>>42217737
Might you have a source for this? I tried looking it up but nothing came up

>escorts
>listening to anything about your shitty life
you'll have more success talking to a wall

>>42218214
snuggling? Forking? fondling of the genitalia?

>>42218214
Maybe something like chestlock or upper body grapple

>>42218214
emotionally inspired engagement in physical contact over mutual opposite sex affection

>>42218214
Hugging while in a steady position in either bed, couch, toilet etc. While no sexual desire is permitted unless both individuals are consious.

>>42217643
It's illegal to solicit someone for sex. Hiring someone to listen to you complain about your life is called therapy. Whether he wants it to be a hooker is up to him desu.

>>42217619
How old are you?

>>42217619
I worked 70h/week for a year and half with no vacations nor holydays if that makes you feel better.

Oh and a contract that didnt state how much I was working,it said 6h :^] feelsexploitedman

>>42217667
Dude ask your parents for a cuddle nothing wrong with wanting to feel a bit of love from time to time

>>42217680
Congrats faggot

>>42217643
Legal here, fat burger. We get all the gook imports too for really cheap. Feels tops cunts

>>42217864
?????

Bible and christianity are fine but the church is shit

>>42217619
yes you can, i have a 44h job, i wake up at 5:45am so i can wake up, shower, eat and go to work and arrive at 7am, then my shift ends at 5pm, i get home arround 6pm, eat couple bananas, take a preworkout to keep me awake and focused on the gym and go, i spend 12h out of home with only one real mean on my stomach and still lift and make gains
DATING IS OVERATED
you are not missing anything by not dating, believe me, i got out of a 3y relationship, i used to think i trully loved this girl, but after a while i've got so fucking angry after all the fighting over bullshit that i don't ever want to date again
just quit being a bitch and go out, meet people, get drunk and talk about your problems with strangers as a joke, don't let yourself down, stop being shy and open yourself to new experiences

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Fuck man I was so lonely ...
I was feeling suicidal.
And i was on Nofap
Yesterday night.
I meet with a crossdresser
go to her( his) home
we kiss each other like 1 hour (French etc)
she(he) worship me..
then I fuck her(his) ass
after that, she(he) force me to suck his cock.
First, i didn't want to do but she(he) really push me so I sucked her(his) cock... She(hi) did not cum on my mouth..
She(he) jerk my cock, I cum in Her(his) mouth..
we cuddle and speak about life etc
then i leave...
Sorry for my bad english..
Man.. What did i do..
I feel so disguted...
I did not enjoy it...

any advice ?

>>42218898
Not even greentext...

>>42217643
>amoral
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

> Hint: It means that the action has no moral value, not that the action is morally wrong. i.e, setting a kitten on fire is immoral, going through a doorway is amoral.

>>42218995
Setting a kitten on fire can be considered amoral, too.

>>42218898
This one of the saddest posts I have read on 4chan.

>>42218898
Do it again and post pics

>>42219009
>Setting a kitten on fire can be considered amoral

No it cannot. Putting ice in your whiskey is amoral. Animal abuse is immoral. You're either a psychopath or you do not fully understand what not having moral value means. If you can judge it in a moral fashion (as you can with setting a kitten on fire), it will never be amoral, regardless of your opinion.

>>42217619
TER, P411 ,ECCIE or backpage as a last desperate result . You are welcome anon

>>42218091
FUCKING

>>42219300
LEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAF

>>42218140
Since when does 12 end in "teen"?

>>42218898
Sounds like you got trapped.

>>42219339
what did you mean by trapped?

I work 60+ hours a week with two kids and still have more time to hit the gym than you.

What the fuck are you wasting your time doing?

i meet espensiv escort just for affection like you but the sad truth is that they don't give a shit about and they listen because of the money. They just don't care, it's comedy for them. Fuck it's so hard being a man in this world

>>42217619
Dude, take some rando college classes for fun. You don't have to go for a degree to give someone money to teach you useless shit.

>>42217699
>take a month or two off
what the fuck kind of warehouse job allows a month off?

>>42218854
Not sure where I mentioned the church??????

having a gf won't fix your shit fuck a whale if you need sex

>>42219099
Morality is subjective, you piece of shit. I can feel guilt, yet feel none for strangling cats in my youth.

>>42218898
>nofap to get motivation to talk to girls
>5 months later, still a virgin, nofap didn't help
>fuck a dude
>now gay

Congratulations on becoming a honorary member of /fit/.

>>42219870
Guilt has nothing to do with morality, "you piece of shit". Feelings do not go into it when considering what's the right thing to do. If you feel good about doing good things that's great, but you should do the right thing regardless of whether or not you "feel" like it.

I enjoy killing babies and I feel bad about giving back someone's lost wallet with all of the money inside, should I follow my "subjective" feelings?

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>>42219890

>>42219486
Oh they care when you are face fucking them and then anal blasting them. They would much rather go back to conversations on how I am just not good enough . Then I nut in their mouth and tell them daddy doesnt love them and do it again next month with some other ho. Its satisfying for a few minutes them its back to the numbness of life.

>>42219447
You know, trapped.

>>42218121

Interesting story, care to give a bit more if you're still there ?

>>42217680
57. Your a fucking liar. Ive banged over 100 girls and they literally blur into one after 40. No way would you be so precise.

>>42218221
My source is personal fucking experience.