How do you learn to reach proper depth in a high bar squat? I

>>42206176
Widen your stance, wear flat shoes.

>>42206187
Not OP, but those were the cause of my problems with the squat. Narrow stance and an elevated heel completely cured my squat issues. No more butt wink, no more shallow squats, and no more knee pain.

OP, try squatting with plates under your heel to see if you feel any positive changes and then get oly shoes.

>>42206187
>wear flat shoes
>for high bar squats
L I T E R A L L Y kill yourself and never give advice on this board ever again

>>42206176
Back rounding (aka butt wink) is fine

>because I have issues stopping short and knowing when to explode back up
Lower the weight, take a slow approach when dropping down. When you feel as though you're parallel, shoot back up

Being able to feel when you're parallel and immediately shooting up is known as the stretch reflex. It's important to develop a good stretch reflex just as a habit.

>>42206260
He's going too low you fucking morons.

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>>42206269
There's no such thing as too low, brah. ATG squats offer so much more advantages than normal squats

>>42206257
My flexibility isn't an issue, my back rounding is caused by ATG squats. I also have Olympic shoes and squat narrow because those two things fixed most of my issues as well.

My only problem is knowing when to stop without hitting ATG because going ATG makes my back round.

>>42206373
Widen your damn stance, wear flat shoes, and set a box at your desired height. Do not bounce off the box.

>>42206289
Do you compete? No? Then shut the fuck up, goddamn casual.

>>42206400
I'll try the box then.

>>42206416
>why would you deadlift that's for powerlifters and you don't compete
Nice argument there.

"The depth of an Olympic squat should not even be a topic of discussion, but because there has and continues to be discussion among coaches and athletes in sports outside of weightlifting, it warrants at least clarification: proper depth is full depth; full depth means full depth. Full depth is not parallel, it is squatting to the lowest position possible without surgical alteration of body parts while maintaining correct posture" - Greg Everett

>>42206400
>>42206443
That's a dumb idea and doesn't train the stretch reflex

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>>42206176
When I was getting into weightlifting my coach (Football fag here) would put the thin 10 pound plates under our heels so we could reach a deeper squat. Eventually you build up the muscle and flexibility and don't need the plates.

Pro weightlifters buy expensive ass shoes with wedges in the heels to do the same thing, save yourself some money and just use plates, inch or less works for thickness.

If you core is tight, lumbar rounding at the bottom of a squat is not a problem. Its just the natural path your body takes in a deep squat and the load is not being transferred to your lumbar spine at all at that point in the lift.

Rouding during a deadlift is different in that the weight is literally the reason the back is rounding and the force is being transferred onto it.

>>42206505
>it is squatting to the lowest position possible without surgical alteration of body parts while maintaining correct posture
Which is not atg for most people

>>42206373
>my back is rounding
>not a flexibility issue
Exactly wrong.