Why aren't you vegan?

only thing i like about animals are their meat

>>42199253
i am

>>42199253
Because I'm not a deluded self masochist

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>>42199282
xD

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>>42199323
If anything this proves how much of a carnivore humans aren't

>>42199253

Because I like meat and nothing I do will mean anything within 1000 years so fuck it.

>>42199253
Because why would i? I dont care about my influence on the environment, i am emotionally stable enough to not get upset about unknown animals being killed, and i eat more than enough plants in my diet to gain the health benefits that 'vegans have' when being compared to average people in the literature.

So ye, what reason do i have to become vegan? It probably only will make my life harder and less pleasurable. It literally is a limitation.

I'm not a limp wrist faggot

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>>42199351
>Implying omnivores don't exist
>Implying I meant to prove anything

>>42199253
Because I'm not gay

>>42199374
>tfw vegans cannot possibly answer anything uysefull to this

>>42199253
But I am

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>>42199253
already am. here is my end goal.

I have very little trust for vegan diet since 4 of close family and friends tried the diet and followed it to a tee and all ended up having huge health issues and hospital visits.

>>42199538
Is that head shopped? And why is he green? Is he literally an alien?

>>42199549
no b12 = brain stops working well
meat is literally the reason why humans evolved to be as smart as they are

>>42199549
Nice anecdote, friendo.
My grandpa smoked till 95, better hop on those delicious cigs I guess
>>42199722
Man, non-vegetarians in Western countries are the most deficient in B12 since they're awfully assuming they are getting it. Can't even bother to spoonfeed again on this point for the nth time.
Not even arguing over vegan vs non vegan here

>>42199538
I legitimately used to think this was impressive

>>42199253
Why is this such a hot button issue for people? Everyone immediately makes it an emotional topic instead of just looking at the health of it. Plant based diets have tons of research yet no one brings these into these threads...

>>42200149
Okay well maybe if your side actually put some compelling studies that we can does a message on healthy then we can move forward but no every time someone post something about your plant diet being for the bad you just cry in the corner instead of offering counter studies

>>42200272
>every time someone post something about your plant diet being for the bad you just cry in the corner
Nice, where did you see that?
Anyway, somebody asked for studies?
Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22121108
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11743810
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4135519/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18789600
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15955547
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19279082
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18980957
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3081176
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22867847
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422422
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12588089
Diabetes:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diabetes/wireStory?id=2244647
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386029/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18481955
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596361
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15983191
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23509418
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24149445
Heart Disease:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/108/22/2757.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426

>>42200382
Gee Billy, two posts?

Osteoporosis:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25352269
American Dietetics Association Position on veganism:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
Longest Living Population:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434797
Low Carbohydrate Diets and mortality:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20820038
Plant foods have a complete Amino Acid profile:
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/25/e197.full
Benefits of a vegan diet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967195/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4583329/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4844163/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677007/
Vegans & Vegetarians are more empathetic:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2877098/

>>42200394
>Government measuring empathy
H-holy propaganda Batman.

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>>42200394
>But protein, iron, calcium and B12 tho! You NEED supplements!
Or you can, you know, eat normal food like a normal person

>>42200410
Yeah, it's retarded, I need to clear up my pasta. Disregard it.

>>42200394
>>42200382
> Not diversifying your sources
> Using arbitrary measures such as "Empathy" to determine if a diet is beneficial
> Not controlling for external factors like more empathetic people eat vegan, and not that eating vegan makes people empathetic.
Literally shit tier. With terms like "Suggests" there is also the implication that there is no concrete proof, and it's at best guess work.

Thanks for providing a shit ton of useless sources.

>>42200459
>A shitton
>Literally one, which I admitted to being shit >>42200438
Nice job weaseling out

>>42200429
>Normal food
>Sietan
>tofu
nope

I enjoy eating meat. Venison is especially delicious and I can't wait for archery season.

>>42200489
>Beans and wheat and their derivatives are not normal food
>carving up a corpse is
It's 2017 already, it's not funny anymore. Stop.

>>42200621
>Derivatives
>Normal
Try again. Eat whole, minimally processed foods dummy

>>42200621
>Fermenting and processing beans is normal.
>Cooking meat isn't.
You fuckers are retarded.

I blame lack of DHA.

>>42200641
Cow is processed grain/soy/grass anyway, dummy
Seitan is LITERALLY flour with the carbs washed away with water. Seriously, that's the entire process.
And tofu is literally fermented soy beans. You would eat greek yogurt which has a processing chain of soy beans > cow > baby cow formula > pasteurization > fermentation , but you wouldn't eat tofu, which is soy beans > fermentation?

>>42200659
>Fermenting isn't normal
So, no yogurt, beer or wine? Your life must suck

>>42200429
what website is this?

>>42199253
I was thinking about this today, and I honestly don't think vegans enjoy or appricate food at all. You can't even eat cheese. FUCKING CHEESE, I'm talking feta, parmesan, brie, cheddar, all that is fucking gone, and that's just one foodstuff. That's not even mentioning dairy, eggs, all that shit. I can only imagine most vegans care so little about good food making the switch isn't even hard, they'd just shovel different kinds of bland food in their face instead.

>>42199374
>I dont care about my influence on the environment
Numale man children like yourself that refuse to take responsibility for their actions are sickening. People like you deserve to be lynched right along with all the trannies, kikes, and pedophiles. Shining example of what's wrong with modern western society.
>i am emotionally stable enough to not get upset about unknown animals being killed
It has nothing to do with emotions. As a society, we need to have a set of standards and morals that are logically consistent. There is no justifiable reason to needlessly slaughter animals.
>i eat more than enough plants in my diet to gain the health benefits that 'vegans have' when being compared to average people in the literature.
JFC you must weigh 400 fucking pounds if you actually think like this. Eating plants doesn't negate the detriment of eating meat. If I eat some broccoli with a big mac, will that make the big mac healthy to eat? No, it doesn't work like that.
>>42199511
It's just an easy excuse to just say "I don't care".

>>42200703
cronometer

>>42200709
>I can't cook and I am not open to new recipes and food items I haven't eaten until now

>>42200695
>missing the point to make a red herring
Again, you motherfuckers are retarded.

>>42200787
Okay, lots of buzzwords, I'll bite.
>missing the point
What was the point?
>red herring
What am I trying to detract from and for what reason?

>>42200787
There is no point. Saying that something isn't normal or natural doesn't mean shit in today's world. Is typing on a computer natural? Is going to a gym and lifting weights natural? If you're trying to make an actual argument then go ahead and explain it, because it isn't very clear right now.

>>42200429
I don't want to live off cold cans of beans.

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>>42200394
>Gee Billy, two posts?
Gee Billy, no fitness?

>>42200982
Nice body on that OP, must be all the meat
>>42200821
Warm them up, and learn to cook.
SORT
YOURSELF
OUT

>>42200743
Actually, I can cook, fuckhead, and I love trying out new recipes and flavors. Which is why I could never be a vegan. No matter how you cut it, going vegans cuts you off from a shitton of flavours and ingredients.

Which is why vegans are huge fans of recipes that insist they're "just as good as the real thing", which everyone knows is fucking bullshit. Also, a lot of vegetarian and vegan food is processed to hell and fucking back, like quorn. Disgusting.

>>42200508
>archery
Literally the reason I work my lats and forearms

>>42199253
i am

>>42199282
found the sociopath

>>42201378
>He empathizes outside his species
>Accuses others of mental illness
WEW lad. We are humans we eat meat get over it.

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>>42199396
im just posting sharks

>>42200149
It's because the tons of research reveal that a steak now and then won't kill you, and the only real reason to go vegan is political and belongs on the politics board.