/fraud/ steroids general

>>42186217
Thats a gay op pic

this is top 3 worst op ever

I literally just took 400mg DNP an hour ago, planning to start a new cycle but I've just made sudden plans to go out drinking, am I going to die?

Help

>>42186423
>>42186355
bostin loyd haters, when will they learn?

>>42186454
It probably isn't, but you're fucking retarded if you're willing to take that chance.

I've taken 500 and 750mg dnp before and the last thing I thought about was going drinking. I would wait at least 3 days after your last dose of DNP before consuming more than a beer of alcohol.

>>42186454
DO NOT DRINK, YOU WILL LITERALLY DIE
Not fucking joking bro. Don't.

>>42186217
>Equating the feat of human space exploration with working out

Jesus christ lads

Anyone have any experience with using belviq to suppress their appetite on a cut? I can't seem to find much information on it

>>42186454
DO NOT GO DRINKING FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DO NOT DRINK

>>42186454

In all seriousness, yes. You could easily get severe, permanent organ damage and die. Do not do that under any circumstances.

Seriously. You could EASILY die from liver or kidney failure.

>>42186609
>uneducated retardation vs educated pushing of limits

They're obviously not on the same level but they are the same comparison.

>>42186646
Maybe it's for the better, if you know what I mean.

>>42186658
nah

the problem with drinking on dnp is that it's incredibly dehydrating. you need to be constantly drinking water... passing out could actually kill you from dehydration

none of your organs are going to fail though

>>42186567
>>42186595
>>42186646
>>42186658

I know I'm being retarded and probably deserve to get shit on by you guys and burn myself from the inside, but isn't there a good chance that the DNP hasn't come too strongly into effect yet, and if I limited drinking substantially I might still be okay?

This is my third cycle in the past 3 years but I've just never touched alcohol on it, wondering if I could counteract it with stupid amounts of water and just sticking to shots/diet mixers to keep the carb intake at a low?

Again I know I'm retarded and deserve what I get, hoping someone has had experience with being a complete fucking retard like me in the past.

>>42186988
>>I know I'm being retarded and probably
Even if you're not feeling the DNP, it's still in full effect. I say do it. One less stupid person in this world.

>>42186217
>no source talk
1. Why
2. How can you enforce that

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How do I convince an endocrinologist that I need legal test therapy?, getting it underground seems like a pain

should I bust my balls a week or two before my exam and do other kind of shit that lower my test levels, is there like a way to cheat on the eamination?

pls respond

>>42187129
If you think getting your gear through the UG is a pain then you might as well not bother.

Good doctors don't exist, and the bad ones will either laugh you out of the office or give you shit treatment.

>>42187091
To answer both questions: mods

>>42187161
a doc doesn't have to be good if he has to give me a receipt for hormone therapy, so it just seems like I need to find a way to cheat on the blod test levels

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hey guys if I'm on test+deca+sdrol how often can I work out before I snap my shit up? Worked out 2 hours this morning but kinda want to go back for another 2 hours this evening

>>42187129
endocrinologist is much more of a pain than UGL, literally just buy some bitcoin and find a source on /r/SteroidSourceTalk

>>42187189
A bad doc will think your hormones are "fine" even when they are obviously too low.
They won't give you a receipt for jack shit.

You should find some private doctor and just pay your way through.

Yes, there is a natty limit and it's nowhere near the "roids limit". but to insinuate that one can't get big and strong natty, and that using is the only way it's just fucked.

Gor super fat. Tested for low T. Imagine that.

Levels are back up to 700, aiming for 1100. Test cypionate 200mg 1 pin a week.

Been about 3 months started at 1 pin every 2 weeks, then 1 every 10 days now 1 every 7. Test is now leveled out at around 700. Is this the time to start lifting heavy? I havemt wanted to before because I didn't want to add any more stress on my heart seeing as how im also on ADD meds.

Is now the time to get into the gym and push hard or is there.more prep work that needs to be done?

Anything OTC or natural I can take to augment the TEST Cyp?

I would also like to get there bro's.

>>42187494
There's some stuff you can take to get your SHBG down if it's high.

>>42186988
You'll be fine, those guys are total pussies.

One dose at 400mg means your total blood levels aren't even that high, and even fully saturated 400mg isn't a killer dose.

Don't drink to blackout, have loads of water before and after, and have fun.

>>42187189
Don't sleep for 2 days straight, and then get tested.

>got to gym late at night because I hate sharing shit
>get to gym
>usually between 0-5 people there
>16 fuck nuggets there
>all pathetic natty lifters hogging cages and benches so they can make no gains
>just NOPE right out of there
>go to gfs and fuck her for cardio
>go to gym at 2am

It just seems to be lottery whether or not people will be there or not. Don't these people have schedules?

>>42188532
They're just as entitled as you to use the gym equipment. regardless of how much better you think you are, their money is just as green as yours. Jesus it's as if you have to complain about something daily.

>>42176229
>>42176284
Yeah, I got a genetic test done and apparently I have a high estrogen conversion rate. There's also some things about myself that are signs of high estrogen. I've never gotten my E2 levels tested but my testosterone levels are 481 ng/dl at 18 years old.

If I have POTS syndrome, would I be fine taking testosterone, Aromasin, and Nolvadex? My doctor said I would eventually outgrow it in my 20's.

My main symptoms are an increased heart rate when standing (which is relieved by sitting down) and sometimes after eating, feeling all the blood rush away from my head when standing sometimes, and it might make my blood pressure high. It also causes blood to pool in my feet when standing, and it makes them red and my veins swell, same with my arms and hands.

My standing blood pressure last Tuesday was 102/78 with a heart rate of 132, lying down was 124/73 with a HR of 88.

Last Wednesday was 121/97 with a HR of 118, lying down was 125/77 with a HR of 74.

On last Thursday, it was 103/63 with a HR of 143 while standing, sitting was 117/73 with a HR of 90.

I'm able to exercise and do cardio no problem.

Started test 500/w, deca 400/w with a dbol 30mg/d kickstart 2 weeks ago and got sick last week.. now my heart rate is at dead even 100 when resting. BP was something along 140/89. Dropped dbol 2 days ago and dont plan taking it again. Will I survive? Have adex too and taking it 0.25mg e3d

5'10 180lbs

>>42189156
this dude calls other dyel and fucked his shoulder overhead pressing like 135 he need to kys

>>42189350
do you even lift

>>42189363

You'll survive.

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training to hit the 2018 ruby clasic yall niggas mirin im gettng bulked cant wait for shredz baby lets go

>>42190508
hi blueshoes

>>42189381
kek he needs to kyshs

>>42186454

Bro I do it all the time. Don't fall for these meme scientist faggots. You can have 4 drinks comfortably, 5 if you are a heavy dude. I wouldn't go more than 4 though, just to be safe.

>>42190508
Blueshoes I love you man but you need to start doing more direct arm work.

Would cruising on test for 1-2 years provide any maintainable gains? Even 30% retention would be awesome.

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Well guys, looks like I'll be ending my Test E cycle shortly. Currently on week 11. Thinking about ending it right now or on week 12

I planned on blasting and cruising, but right now I can't realistically do that (20 y/o, currently military with deployment chances, etc).

I gained okay-ish lean body mass, but also gained some chunk. At about 17-18% bodyfat now. I had puberty related gyno starting out, now it's worse even though I've been using arimidex. Wearing t-shirts is embarrassing because them puffy nips poke through.

I'm scared of coming off, but it's what I need to do. Hopefully just nolva 40/40/20/20 will do the trick.

It's been a ride fellas. Maybe in the future, after I finally get gyno surgery, I can run low test high tren and build a body I can be comfortable with. But for now that's not gonna happen.

Thanks for all the help everybody. One day I'll join you in gainsville.

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>>42190827
youre right dude

my ass is just so tired afrer doing the big lifts

what does your butt reccomend? should i get aome weights ar my gouse and do an gour of arm worn every night before bed? rhansks

>>42186454
You'll be fine. Just make sure you only drink hard liquor. Gotta stay hydrated bro.

>>42189350
>>42189350
I keep seeing you ask this question and getting no replies. Just ask r/steroids, they have daily question threads everyday and everyone there is way more knowledgeable generally.

>>42190909
Glad you enjoyed your first cycle!

Going to start a bulk early this season, havn't been terribly happy with my size. @ 205 5'9''
test p 700mg/wk
mast 800/wk
npp 500/wk
6 weeks of sdol @ 20mg/day
Preworkout on heavy days: 50/1 TNE/mtren

Hate tren, Just finished a primo cycle in may, wasn't up to my expectations. And I was running it @ 1g/wk. Had it tested too, and it was gtg. I love my bulk cycles tho.

>>42191075
>glad you enjoyed your first cycle!
I wouldn't say I enjoyed it, but it really was a learning experience. My expectations were too high and I was too tempted to order tren and a bunch of other compounds because I wanted to be freaky large and cut on my first cycle. Obviously that's not gonna happen lol

205 at 5'9 is pretty large. I'm 6ft at 195, and I'd consider myself skinnyfat-ish.

Insane bulk cycle though my man, must've been costly. Good luck!

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>>42189156
Our money is monopoly coloured fag

>>42191387
Literally a meme country

>>42190904
yes it would provide gains in the canthavechildren department

Anyone haveadvice for someone with pubertal gyno wanting to try a cycle? Am i fucked and just need gyno surgery or will ai help/shrink it

>>42191628
just be yourself bro

>>42191628
You'll probably need surgery but ralox could help reduce it if you're lucky. Id say take it with your ai to prevent any growth if you chose to go on.

>>42191418
Roid prices here are a meme

>>42191712
I'm paying $80 for 10ml of test now. $60 for 4 weeks of drol.

probably fucked up but i;m ok

I inject 2x a week

Sunday and Wednesday morning

I injected sunday monring and tuesday night....

>>42192472
>paid 60 us for 20 ml test and 4 weeks of sdrol @ 25mg

>>42191712
>>42192472
fellow aussie here. cant be specific obviously but I no longer buy domestically and i recommend it. who knew australia had so many jew sources

>>42192490
that wouldn't be an issue. long esters are very forgiving that way. return to your normal schedule

>>42192490
just take the normal scheduled dose, and don't make the same mistake again. No big deal lol.

Aromasin or arimdex, and why?

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A couple weeks into my first cycle of test, is this normal? Pic related. my leg where I injected, leg is red because I've been icing it,but the circle of black and red is what I'm worried about.

>>42193450
looks like brusing, why are you using your syringe like a joystick lol Is it itchy or hot?

>>42193504
It's hot and swollen. Gf did my injection after watching some IM guides. After pulling out blood spewed down my leg but I wiped it up and no more came out, 24 hours later it's like that. What do.

>>42193450
It looks like is infected, you need to take antibiotics or go to the doctor, don’t wait too long

>>42186217
Bostin loyd is without a doubt the shittiest, most retarded lifter out there, and the lifting community is literally 95% retards.

>>42193590
2nd this, especially if hot. infection is not something not worth fucking with

>>42193717
>pro bodybuilders are only pro cause drugs
>takes all the drugs
>still not on a pro level
"oh i actually don't like competing i just want to be big"

>>42193717
>>42193821
I thought that drugs was numbero 1, kek

you can't cheat on genetics no matter how much shit you take, genetics like flex wheeler ronnie coleman, arnold can't be cheated on

>>42193902
I just can't imagine not being a bodybuilder yet wanting to spend that much money on growth and a billion compounds.
I also forgot
>muh torn chest makes me hate competing

meanwhile Fuad gets on stage with a blown out quad and looks great otherwise

>>42193953
Didn't you see his last video? It was all an experiment to show us the dangers of all the drugs. It was all for educational purposes.

There are plenty of bodybuilders who are younger than him and take way less than him while look much better.

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FUCK YOU FUCKING GOAT FUCKERS STOP THIS NO SOURCE BULLSHIT!!

I JUST WANT TO GET BIG, TELL ME WHERE IS THE SOURCE OF THE FUCKING JUICE ALREADY FAGGOTS

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I regret not kickstarting my first cycle. 4.5 weeks in and still no significant changes. It's planned to be 15 weeks and it seems like my gains will be shit tier becaue i don't have much time left.

also, i want to cruise after my blast and blast again next year. I should still feel enhanced feels after lowering my dose? When im going to blast again i have to wait another 5-6 weeks before test will stabilize on higher level?

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Does roiding mimic the noob gains?

>>42194085
Leddit steroidsourcetalk

>>42194523
What are you cycling? Babby's first test?

>>42194718
that's right

honestly, so far im pretty dissatisfied

>>42194018
I dont watch it. This is the only place i discuss drugs. I use them and im not ashamed or anything i just think there are so many other interesting things to talk about regarding gym. John meadows is the only pro worth listening/openly discusses drugs

>>42186567
>beer of alcohol
That's how americans measure alcohol.

>>42195313
>not measuring in schooies and middies

Not gonna make it

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>implying roiders know any more about programming than some twink doing machines every day

all 3 of those autists probably still do 5 day splits and know fucking nothing about form, I mean half of this fucking thread probably does splits and ppl

My vials and vial crimper arrived safely!

Now I can put my raw order and ba/bb order in

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>>42194678
FOOD and GENETICS DO


>>42194942
Now he's calling out this kid, who btfo him on all fronts with using way less shit.

probably just to get attention.

>>42195546
How they keep that bloated face while their body is shredded?

>>42194018
> Didn't you see his last video? It was all an experiment to show us the dangers of all the drugs. It was all for educational purposes.
lmao

yeah he totally did it for the science and he's totally not rationalizing a posteriori his retarded attempt at bodybuilding fame that ended with him destroying his biceps

>>42195546
Never payed much attention but bostons developing a gut in his 20s... gross.
Just as a general theme the real bbuilders tend to have so much more chill and for the better part dont bitch about each other. Its just the youtube demographic that have little hissy fits about people they have never met
19 nors give me moonface even with ai/prami at low bf

>>42192490
Doesnt matter at all

okay /fraud/, natty here
Are there oral only steroids?
I fucking hate needles (the only place that doesn't make me as queasy is the leg)
asking out of curiosity

>>42195829
There are and no you can't just run an oral only cycle. You WILL fuck yourself up. You need test base. Honestly if you wanna do steroids and be a tough guy man the fuck up and just jam a needle in your ass

>>42195863
and my ass too, I forgot. I can stomach that

>>42195863
>>42195829


Well you can, youll just feel like shit doing it usually, and probably have erectile dysfunction.

I suppose you could do some transdermal test bs to maintain normal functioning and throw in some orals.

LGD4033 only isnt unreasonable to do, some lethargy can be experienced, but it doesnt fuck with you like oral steorids would.

But desu LGD is a great drug to stack on test and other steroids, probably because of it crushing SHBG.

>>42195627
sounds as most normies over here who are blasting tren like crazy and still look dyel; no mang, i just want to look natty, i like that natty look. I just don't wanna overdo it, girls like the natty look.


>>42195711
Interesting. My face looks like utter show when i go to low bodyfat.

so deca/npp it seems?

Is deca better for mass building than test? Only thing that might worry me are leaking tits and my source doesn't has caber/prami.

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6nujyw/california_needing_surgery_after_buying_bad/

l m a o

>>42195936
Is this the real masT?

Of course deca is better for building mass, just keep Test high as well

>>42195914
Yeah you're right that technically it would be possible but why would he spend money to run Test at basically TRT levels and just rely on orals with risk of liver damage etc etc cause you'd wanna have a big dosage to compensate for the lack of supraphysiological levels of test to build the mass? It would just be really inefficient and not worthwhile as well as far more risky for health than just doing babbys first test cycle.

Lgd4033 is allright but also crashes test at the dosages that it starts to shine. And again why take something new rather than something that's been found safe for decades already.

>>42195945
Why are you asking? Nobody can copy the real masT

Thanks for the input. Would you run deca without having caber on hand? Would an ai be sufficient?

>>42195961
Yeah it does crash test quite low but still feel normal enough on it + no liver problems. I did an oral only ph once, fucking host of problems including depression and anxiety.

If test cream wasnt expensive you could do it. I mean depending how long you run the orals for.

Actually now that I think about it trest cream might be worth while, havent tried it, Id just buy the raw and inject it if I was going to. Its not cheap though.

>>42195936
Its particular bad for me on tren. Somebody suggest ace inhibitors but im not that worried

Leaky nips aint even bad ;)
You might get away without caber/prami you might not but controlling your e and diet certainely helps with the bloat as well as prolactin sides. I can use just vitamin b6 on 200 tren but i need prami for more. Deca is nice. Makes you feel comfy plus super long half life

>Weeks 1-15 600mg test C + bulk diet
>Week 16 250mg test C + maintenance diet
>Weeks 17-19 250mg test C + psmf

Is it good?

>>42195942
>buy gear from sst
>get abscess from it and need to have a part of your glutes removed
>ask on a legal advice subreddit if you can sue reddit or the sst mods because of it
steroid users are so smart

>>42196173
Sst should be avoided at all cost once you have your contacts. Nothing but shit talking are retarded people fucking up what should be such an easy proccess

>>42195405
whats wrong with ppl

>>42196224
Not him but for me to even consider training bis after back or shoulders chest and tris in the one workout wouldnt happen. The intensity wouldnt be there

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Took one dose of 175mg sustanon couple days ago and I wanna end the cycle early. What do I do? I have Nolvadex on hand. Should I just start taking it now or wait a week?

what dose?

>>42196523
Undecanoate isnt out of your body bb, did you did one shot and want to stop or is just the last shot you did?

>>42196577

did one shot, one shot only.

>>42196594
Why do you want to stop anon? Don't you want to be BIG and STRONG?

>>42196523
Mind telling us why you wanna quit?

>>42196523
No need for an ai and nolva. Why did you pussy out? Your natty card is forever gone now anyway.

>>42196111
We will see how it goes.

I am planning to be fucking huge with my next blast. Skinny time is over

I was thinking about:

1-4 Anadrol or dbol
1-20 Test 500-750mg
1-20 DECA 500mg

>>42196608
>>42196613

Business came up and I have to travel soon, I don't feel like taking my gear on the plane or buying more stuff in each country I go to, just not a good time atm

Why test-e or test-d for babby's first cycle, rather than sust?
Isn't sustanon more versatile with all the esters, or should you just stick to one ester?
What are some befenits of sust?

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I want to be roelly huge

>>42196641
>No need for an ai and nolva.

think my test levels will just go back to normal on their own? I thought any exogenous test will shut you down

anyone who has made their own pwo here?

>>42196662
Sustanon is shit anon, i only use it because its cheaper

>>42196700
Mind elaborating on that?
I'm really trying to get myself to know everything before I even go out there and try to get stuff here, or order it from one of the leddit sources

>>42196707
You need to pin EoD or ED to get stable levels because of the prop ester, and at that point why not use just prop? Use steroidgraph to get a better picture of how the esters work

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>>42196666
Check'd, but do you want to have traps up to your ears too?

>>42194523
bumping my question

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>>42196825
fuck yeah. I find traps next to arms to most epic muscle in our body. Big traps make you look like a real alpha

>>42196940
Yes, you will need to wait for the ester to kick in

>>42196952

>thought bubble: "my body is toxic; please end my suffering"

>>42196163
bump pls

>>42196523

someone help this anon, he's gonna die

>>42197020
thought bostin: i just take what he takes so i will look the same

>>42196668
One shot wont do jack shit buddy. Your fine

Is there anything wrong with injecting 1 mL subq

>>42186217
Man, I've been out for years. What happened to /dnp/ General?

>>42197279
still out there, not always, but from time to time.

>>42195756
It shouldn't really

Most like to keep it on a regular schedule though

Since now instead of next injection being 4 days it is now 5 days

Either way test cyp takes time to work and stays in the body for a while so will be interesting to see where my levels are at

Last time I had a blood test I didn't inject for 8 days and my test was at 860

I nuked my gyno with 2.5mg ed of letro and I'm just about to come off of it but I'm not sure exactly how I should taper it down and switch ai. I'm thinking of going
Day1 : 1.75mg
Day 2: 1.25mg
Day 3: .75mg
Day 4: .5mg
Day 5: .25mg
Day 6: .125mg, 6.25 asin
Day 7: 12.5 asin
Day 10: 12.5 asin
Day 13: (drop test to 150mg ew) 12.5 asin

Should this be good enough to stop any rebound estrogen?

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What's a good cruise dose? 200 mg / wk? I'm probably gonna dial it in with bloods but I'd like a starting point

>>42198254
150

>>42198254
i find get a bit of gyno over time with 200 but 150 seems to be great

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>>42198330
>>42198336
Thanks homies, I'll start at 150 and keep an eye on the ol' nips

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Weird. I invited this girl out to an animal sanctuary kind of thing where they keep some critically endangered animals (stuff she's really interested in) and offered to pay for her ticket but she almost got mad at me for offering to do that and then bailed and said her dad was coming to town at the same time.

>>42198527
call her a cunt, bitches dig that

>>42198527
she's not interested

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>>42198539
Nah. She texted me back a minute ago saying she's not mad but she doesn't want me to pay for the ticket. Thing is she's not in a position to be able to afford it right now anyways since she's between jobs and it's $100. It sucks in general since I guess we won't be able to do anything together until she gets back on her feet unless it's free stuff.

Why the fuck is dating so confusing and hard sometimes. Maybe I should just get a Daki like Jerry.

>>42198597
then do free stuff untill you know her better, idiot

Most of you probably don't run HCG right?

You know HCG stimulates much more than just testicular function/LH = bigger balls

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What do you guys recommend for an AI? Starting first cycle of test e 500mg/week.

Can you just buy aromasin or whatever online?

pls help

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>>42198571
Possibly but I really doubt it. She had the perfect opportunity to ghost me and she didn't. She keeps sending me smiley faces and shit too so I feel like having me pay would just hurt her pride or make her feel like a leech which she doesn't want.

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>>42173983
My glute doesn't feel weird anymore and i've pinned my quad yesterday in the morning. Everything went smooth, got bit of pip in the evening. Today i was supposed to have separate leg day for the first time in a while but i wasn't comfortable enough with this pip. Right now i feel fine. I think ill pin my other quad next time.

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>>42198608
I've known her for like 6 months since we also worked together. I'm trying to find other free shit we could do but it's not easy.

>>42198610
I run a ton of HCG for dem joocy nuts.

>>42198650
go for a fuckin walk in the park. a person in their work is entirely different than the social version of them, you do not know this hoe

>>42198668
Yea, that's common. Care to share what happened?

My coworker/supervisor absolutely wouldn't shut up about his wife in my car. He just kept talking about her the whole ride, and I sat there really not knowing what to say

:)

It can be rough once you get to see the real person behind the work personality they portray

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>>42198668
Most of the time we talked at work it was 1-1 and when I have been out with her she's basically the same person. Outside is hell this time of year it's like 100f and 80% humidity.

test making me feel like everything is too slow and everyone around me is slow and i gotta go fast

>>42194018
no there arent. not heavyweights. not actual mass monsters. maybe beach physique faggots.

>>42193821
u jelly brah

>>42197279
kys

>>42198610
Yes, like raise hard to control estrogen.

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>>42186217
Yo guys I am scared nauseous right now.
I had to do a urine test for my new job. I thought it was going to be a dumb 5-panel test. I get there and it's a fancy looking apparatus that shoots a laser into the sample.

The part that worries me is that she said, "We usually do the drug testing all here in the labs but sometimes we send the sample to Kansis City for analysis."

Am I fucked? I've been on a testosterone-only cycle and I just finished on 7/9. That was my last dose. I'm trying to stay optimistic but it's not looking good. I feel an impending sense of doom.

What do to fall asleep quickly? I've got problems falling asleep and it has nothing to do with steroids but maybe there is something i could take to aid it?

>>42198894
Um
Can you explain? I don't understand your point

>>42198996
lmao ur done

>>42198996
dude she was clearing joking with you, Kansis isn't even a real city

>>42199023
Melatonin, if you check on r/steroids there is a thread about trensomia that might help

>>42198996
so what if you failed?

its just testosterone.

>>42199172
>>42199023
people who dont know how to deal with trensomnia should not be using tren. going with less than 8 hours of sleep is not tren's fault.

>>42199174
Yeah but won't they be able to tell that it is synthetic testosterone by the metabolites in my urine?

>>42198996
employers are required by law to state up front what they are testing you for. If they didn't tell you they're testing for steroids, then they're not testing you for steroids.

>yeah it's just the standard employee drug test for marijuana, meth, and heroin
>surprise surprise! We also tested you for steroids, which you tested positive for! And we even decided to report you to the police! You're going to jail!


get over yourself

>>42199203
who gives a fuck?

do you really want to work for a jew who tests for steroids?

>>42198996
>and I just finished on 7/9.

you have more important things to worry about, pct is going to be hell

>>42199356
>pct is going to be hell
Why?

>>42199278
They didn't tell me anything they are testing for

>>42199637
It would have been in any disclaimers you signed in the application for the job; "I x submit to drug testing for the applied for position knowing y tests for z compounds" etc.

>>42199090
Aromatization in the nuts can't be stopped by AI's.

>out of whey
>go to order new 11lbs bag, out of chocolate
>how bad can peanut butter and chocolate be?
fuck this is terrible, it tastes like cardboard and I have 11 pounds of it.

that's what I get for straying away from the classic chocolate

>>42199692
>He fell for the whey meme
wew

>>42198527
Did you ever consider not assaulting her with benevolent sexism you fucking shitlord?

>>42198597
Do it
Do it now.

>>42199692
I get all my powders unflavored
Brown rice n pea are actually really good

>>42199782
I psmf only using liquid

it's about 500 times better than chicken psmf

>>42196645
Run drol on 8-12 and 16-20 too. You're fucking blasting bruh make use

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>>42199828
>sexism you fucking shitlord?
Nah. It just seemed like a weird response given she isn't able to pay for it right now anyways. If it were me I'd be like fuck yeah, I save $100 and get to do something I've wanted to, why not?

>Do it now.
Maybe I'll get a real gf and a Daki GF.

>Brown rice n pea
reeeeeeeeee vegans.

>>42199185
You're a faggot who cannot understand different people experience sides differently.

>No phone, bright lights, tv etc an hour before bed. Cool room. Melatonin. Cannabis about 4 hours before bedtime so maximum tired feels.


>Roll around uncomfortably for an hour before finally passing out
>Wake up inexplicably at 4:30am, unable to go back to sleep

And no I'm not taking a benzos or hypnotic to go to fucking sleep. I'll just keep my runs relatively short so shit don't accumulate too much.

I deleted my tinder.
Fuckin roasty whores

>>42200027
Thats because you're not being systematically repressed by people paying for your shit

Pick the daki gf

>preferring literally ground up milk to ground up peas
Get a grip

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>>42200033
I was on tren for the past 8 months and never got bad insomnia. Minimum 500mg to almost 3g/week. Felt okay but holy fuck those sweats were insane it would look like I pissed my pants if I was working hard outside.

>>42199851
Why? I like Chicken psmf

>>42200116
post current body

>>42199690
>Aromatization
Yea

You mean with running HCG = more estrogen?

>>42200423
he won't because he looks like shit - otherwise he'd be masT-ing and posting irrelevant photos of himself with every post

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>In bathroom sitting on toilet seat while pinning my quad
>Brother walks up to bathroom door and starts talking to me
>Have to talk with my little brother about something while injecting 1cc test into my quad

Not really that hard but usually my mind is 100% on the injection so it was a strange feel.
How is everyone else doing this fine Wednesday?

Guy is it really worth it?
I always play with the thought to get on this fraud ride

>>42200736
Yes, almost uncontrollable estrogen.

>>42197136
bro what's your current form?

>>42200786
How do people manage it then? Seems like enough people run HCG on cycle without everyone growing tits. I've never run it so I don't know, but I have heard it does really pump your estrogen up

>>42200778
I mean if you want to try it and you aren't an idiot about it then do it. You could do a cycle, decide if you like it or not, and then go from there. That's pretty much what I'm doing senpai.

did Cat Piss die from using DNP?

Sup faggots. I got two questions for you:

1. I'm 25, gonna try roids for the first time. Probably going to stay on indefinitely. Should I just start with test-e 500mg, an estrogen locker, and then play it by ear?

2. Is SST any good or should I just avoid it completely?

>>42193450
Just wait it out for a few more days. It just looks a little irritated to me

>t. former IV drug user

>>42200896
You can kill aromatase in your system but not in the testicles.

Many people think they need to blast HCG at retarded doses for some reason, which causes mad estrogen levels.

If you run a reasonable natty tier dose of HCG it should be manageable.

>>42186217

Harvey Keitel looking thick as fuck.

>>42201113
Yea, they say optimal dose is actually 1000 iu a week

For me I'm personally keeping it at 250iux2 injections a week for total of 500iu a week

After 4 weeks I might increase the dosage to 750iu a week and stick it out there

Hopefully this works, I fucking hate having small testicles

>>42201211
Most people do 750-1000IU/wk it seems.

I think you'll need AI for sure though.

R8 my cycle

1g test
750 deca
6 iu gh ed
25 dbol 50 adrol on and off every 4 weeks

20 weeks

maybe cycle in 350 tren A when im not on the orals.

what say you

im bnc btw

>>42201257
people who posts "rate my cycle" and its something hefty like that usually look like theyyre natty. have fun

>>42201211
>I fucking hate having small testicles
YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR DICK HANGING LOWER THAN YOUR BALLS?????
COME ON!

>>42201257
That is definitely a cycle.

>>42201257
have fun dying

>>42201393
That isn't the point

I had some large, large pair of nuts before

Now they are barely there and it is fucking with me mentally

ALL the girls look at small nuts like wtf, do i just kiss the pebbles or suck on them?

>>42201508
>I had some large, large pair of nuts before
Post nut progress pics.

Also maybe it's just the breed of girls I attract but none of them really pay attention to the balls that much? Usually it's all about that dick yo. But I can understand why it's fuckign with you, hope you get it figured out.

>>42201655
Naa

There are some dirty chicks out there

But than again, I'm in the legal drug capitol of the US :) and most chicks are so fucking loose and ready to fuck

It depends where you meet them though, don't expect every chick out there to want your dick for some reason, running test can make someone think that way...

>>42186217
Does everyone on roids have small dicks?

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>>42201688

Are you talking about Colorado?

How fucked am I, 4th month blasting gonna cruise starting next week. Nolva on hand for pct if I choose to, no HCG though. Should I taper off or cruise at 250mg and stay on until next cycle.

>>42193550

could be sepsis if you nicked a vein, go to a doctor. Looks infected and you don't want necrosis...black is a bad sign

>>42194085
there are other sources besides this place you dumb nigger
r/steroidsourcetalk

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>>42193450

It does not look infected. You're going to be just fine. Keep icing it and cover the wound

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>>42201713

OP, please fix your picture. Enlisted scrubs do not fly or have degrees.
It should say, "My commission in the Air Force / Navy."

t. An officer

>>42186454
I drank a bottle of vodka on dnp in a misguided attempt to get some sleep once

absolute hell

>>42200741
I remember when my roommate freshman year of college walked in on me pinning and was just like "I knew it" lol had a conversation mid pin of 3cc into my quad. Also test was from China and very under dosed.

>>42201655
what the fuck
there cant be two cunts

>>42202359

anon wtf

>>42202437
He isnt anon anon

>>42202393
>>42201655
There can be only one!
Fight to the death!

>>42202494
story lad
you still a twink?
I'm a shadow of my former self lol
and pretty sure I'm sterile

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Natty here, just ordered a sarm to start off light. Ligandrol. Is this real?

>>42202529
>>42202529
>you still a twink?
Yeah ;_; 195 lbs of twink atm.
>and pretty sure I'm sterile
How the fuck did that happen?

>>42202621
steroids lol
I'm off now
thank fuck I'm handsome because my body is shrekt

>>42202642
I'm off two. Natty life is suffering.
Thinking about getting back on soon.

Question; would you regard someone who just finished a cycle of Clen "Natty"?

>>42202706
if youre not actively on drugs youre technically natty

if you mean in a more 'natty or not' people who spend too much time on the internet kind of way then no, you used drugs to enhance your body

>>42200741
>wednesday

Fucking time-zone-lets

Had a funky as fuck dream

>in a car
>decide to check my nips for lactation
>left nip starts popping out these tiny clear solid bubbles in a solid stream
>looked like a compact version of a double helix
>the more I squeeze the taller it got
>try out my right nipple
>just gallons of fluid start pouring out
>wake up
>check to see if I'm lactating
>all is well
>go back to sleep
>have a dream I called some nigger a nigger and got shot

>>42202919
>lactation dreams
Theyr'e fucking terrifying.

>doxycycline made acne 5 times worse and broke out in all places
>now on accutane for about 6 weeks
>developing both acne conglobata and acne fulminans
>scars will be permanent and it'll take about a year for the PIE to disappear

I'm actually starting to regret roiding. Inferior genetics strike again.
Maybe following glands footsteps and offing myself is the best option there is idk

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>>42202919
>have a dream I called some nigger a nigger and got shot
Why arent you american? You ruin my memes meanie

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>>42202591

If it's legal then you wasted your money. That's a good rule of thumb

>>42203161
except for all the times designer steroids were sold otc before being banned by the fda

>>42202393
Ironically, both poor too.

>>42203282
lol I was just thinking about you today oddly
while defecating for whatever that's worth

>>42203282
No bully.
Not everyone can be a trust fund kid or get a small million dollar loan.

>>42203329
>lol I was just thinking about you today
:)
>while defecating
I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad about this

>>42203339
depends how you feel about faeces
theres actually quite a lot of things that have happepened that I would like to brain trust about but this definitely is not our clubhouse anymore

are you still latently homosexual

>>42203369
>are you still latently homosexual
Wut

As homosex as any bodybuilder

What happened. Are you no longer in murica

>>42203389
lol I'm not, and the reasons are pretty laff
holy fuck Ireland is amazing now though

ive always assumed your brother was actually just a mouthpiece for your tru stripes
lmao

>>42203426
>ive always assumed your brother was actually just a mouthpiece for your tru stripes
>lmao
Hahaha I wish. He lives an awesome life. Well jelly of him.

>holy fuck Ireland is amazing now though
Poor. Bad weather. Ugly women.

What more could you wish for kek

>>42203439
the women are all looking amazing
the money is fucking flowing if youre qualified, which I am
its been hot as shit the couple weeks ive been here

I'm genuinely surprised

for some reason when I think of your brother I just think depleted intestinal flora

>>42202591
Yes. Well it depends who you get it from. Ligandrol is a name for LGD4033. It's decent and doesn't have liver issues.

You could have gotten the powder from irc for cheaper though.

MY TREN IS 2 MONTHS EXPIRED

will I die?
I got more coming but I want to use this first

>>42203477
>I just think depleted intestinal flora
I don't know what that is, but he's somehow managed never to catch anything.

Mirin you cashing in in ireland. Where the hell are good looking girls over there though? Dublin?

Never crossed one before. You still with the wife/not wife/nor sure what she was

>>42203528
lolol
complicated situation
short answer is no
she was most definitely legally attached to me unfortunately

>>42203561
Did she get 50% of your steroid collection

Is she making mad gains

As far as I remember you were poor over there. What was she gonna take.

Also jelly of sterility. I had to pay for it

>>42203561
>>42203571
Oh and btw. Remember that time I went autistic and got mad at you for getting married?

I told you so :3

>>42203571
I definitely was not poor for the majority of my stay
when I was still posting here I was straight off the boat
I ended up living the actual #bosslife
she stole all my savings though, which I let go in order to have a quick uncontested divorce

>>42203581
lol you were way more right than I imagined

>>42203502
please respond

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Starring first cycle this weekend

Leaning towards anavar only because I don't want sides

>>42203597
>I ended up living the actual #bosslife
>she stole all my savings though, which I let go in order to have a quick uncontested divorce
Holy, fuck.

>lol you were way more right than I imagined
Come join the dark side.

JK. I'm in a far healthier mental state nowadays. But sloots gonna sloot still is the number one law.

It's unfortunate we can't live without em

>>42203561
>short answer is no
What's the long answer?

>>42203638
What happened to the los tes/mid tren sdrol plan?

>>42203644
Probably in the process of getting separated so technically together but in actuality not so

>>42203638
LGD is better than Anavar, esp new 3303

>>42203502
How much tren do you have? It's generally about bacteria and/or oil degradation. Though the ba/bb is trapped in the vial so I can't imagine bacteria being an issue

>>42203644
far too personal for a forum where a lot of people know my real name lol
although id imagine most of the old guard are long gone

>>42203642
ive degenerated so much sexually that that really doesn't bother me at all
if nobody is bleeding does it even count

>>42203688
2 vials that are expired but only 1 had been drawn from, the other one hasn't been opened

>>42203654
I was trying to TROLL! ANN REEEE!

Started season 2 of attack on Titan digging it

>>42203659
also, if you are still homebrewing
eldoradospandex@tutanota

>>42203703
Then just claim srrms/wii fit fool.

>>42203693
>far too personal for a forum where a lot of people know my real name lol
>although id imagine most of the old guard are long gone
Yeah. And I don't think any of them that are still around are the doxxing type.

Divorce is weird. It feels pretty liberating when it's over though.

>>42203695
SOMEONE ANSWER ME PLEASE

No one has ever used expired gear before?

>>42203695
I wouldn't use one with a broken seal, just to be safe.

For the most part roids shouldn't "go bad' like food so much as loose efficacy over time as the hormones degrade, ie 250mg might be more like 175.

>>42203879
thank you friend

>>42203865
>>42203879
He's right. Jano did testing on some old ass gear and it just came back degraded. If it's sterile it should remain sterile.

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>>42203638
Natty you looks better than me lol we'll just blame my poor decisions and shitty diet tho.

>>42203988
Why is you pic so dark.
Does your phone not have flash? lol

>>42204035
How else can I hide how small I am?

>>42204134
I was going to say angles and lighting but you've got the lighting thing down apparently.

>>42203986
I think mostly it's the oil itself going rancid you have to worry about but that should take a lot longer

I'm able to get sarms at a discount. I also have 15 weeks worth of test. Would running sarms with test be a waste?

Help please:
When I do an overhead dumbbell press my shoulder and elbow pop and hurt bad enough I almost drop the weight sometimes. If I use a dumbbell about 10 pounds lighter, I can do it without any of that pain cause Im able to control the eight better.

I'm on gear, will my size growth be good lifting lighter like this for many, many reps even if I'm not progressing up in weight? (technically regressing)

asin is too expensive, what should i get instead?

On a 500 mg/week test e + 50mg proviron ed 14 week cycle. When should I start hgc? I had planned to start during pct but some websites say to start it on week 12. What would you guys recommend?

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Is wanting to cry while listening to country songs a good indicator that I should start my up ai? I'm at .25 adex eod

I also got sad knowing I'll never see a one night stand I hooked up with out of country again.

Haven't noticed any high estro sides asides from overly emotional responses to what should be normal shit. Any words of advice?

>>42205093
On week 3 of 500 mg of test e ew btw

Hello fellow illegal steroids users!
I think it would be rad to talk about where we get our illegal substances from.

I get my creatine from this basement at 52nd and 3rd in NY.

How about you iron addicts?

>>42205057

letro or adex?

we need an ai expert up in here

>>42205128
I get mozzarella cheese blocks from Walmart

>>42205022
halp, please. I don't know how to train on gear.

My nips are more sensitive than normal. Will Nolva take care of that?
10th week of a test e only cycle, 500mg per week

>>42203988
WHAT IS HOLDING YOU BACK FIX IT

>>42204706
Man I saw the band Rancid sober in Fort Lauderdale a couple years ago for their 20th anniversary tour it was awesome. Still want to see streetlight manifesto.

>>42205057
Gyno is free

>>42186217
>astronaut
>ONLY A BACHELOR'S

nice joke op

>>42205265
Pls help.

what's the benefit of doing a 3 month cycle over doing a 4 month one? Is it just not worth it at all?

I have the gear and I want to just use it up and not have it around anymore.

>>42205371
You make more muscle. That's it.

Although I've read studies that anabolic effects begin diminish passed the 8 week mark

>>42205282
You right once I finish this drol I'm going to blast 900mg of deca and keep the test at 150 for science.

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How do I get like this at 60?

WHY DOES TREN HAVE ME CRAVING HAIRY MUFF

I went down on my girl the other day in the back seat of my car (in the middle of the mall parking lot at like 7pm) and it had been like a week or so since she shaved so like juuuust barely starting to get some peach fuzz (she usually shaves every couple of days and was really self conscious about the hair, didn't even wanna hook up but the tren dick wouldn't take no for an answer)

Dudes, when I saw that fuzz I fucking lost my shit. I haven't been that excited for sex since I was in high school. I've been beeegging her to keep growing it out for a bit and she's probably gonna shave it tomorrow ):

Tren is one hell of a drug

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Fugg. This McCain cancer thing has me kinda scared for the girl I'm seeing. Her dad is supposed to have an MRI for a frontal lobe tumor to figure out what exactly it is and I hope to God it's not a GBM.

I hope tren is found to cause these in the future either for our sakes.

>>42205886
Isn't found to cause*

Autocorrect wants us all to die of brain tumors apparently.

>>42205057
Ugl Asin or even raw powder Asin. Works fine for me.

>>42205891
In passing i've heard tren does mess with brain chemistry (can confirm that one) and nuero degradation. The worst part is since it has no medical uses we are unlikely to see any studies.

>>42204875
5mg lgd ED is reasonably economical and crushes shbg so if you're on test only it makes your test more effective. Also you might need an AI if you already don't as it means there'll be more estrogen and nothing for it bind too except estrogen receptors.

>>42197721

Possibly, but I'd want to be on asin at least over a week after you drop the Letro. Estrogen usually is reproduced in ~four day intervals, but to be safe I'd have the asin in ED for a week+ if you are planning to switch to another ai (Arimidex). If you are going back to asin on cruise then you might be fine, if you are trying to fight gyno then it's a waste to go cheap on prevention of an estrogen rebound spike near the end.

Depends a lot on how gyno prone you are, some people need 25mg E3D on low test cruise.

>>42186217
Do you guys tell your friends you use?
Some of my buddies have noticed the difference and I told them I was "j-just bulking...".
They believed it.

>>42205992
Everybody outside of the AAS community thinks you can get huge and shredded through "hard work and dedication". Just start talking about your diet, programming and sleep schedule until their eyes glaze over. I only tell people who I'm very close to. As of right now exactly two people know I use.

>>42205886
>for the girl I'm seeing
Have you gone on a date yet lel

day 1 of pct
20mg nolva in the morning, feel a bit better
placebo or is it the nolva doing gods work?
16 days last pin

>>42206123
I mean, does it matter?

Bloods are in, turns out my body isnt as fucked as I feared. Aside from some high bp (I skipped cardio) I'm healthy as fuck.

Which brings me to my next point: I want to run 250mg test, 200mg Mast and 200mg Tren for as long ashumanly possible. Will get bloods once a month to keep everything in check.

Yay or nay?

>>42206441
I still need to do bloods, but i am terrified and costs fucking 89 euro's

Are you taking supplements, what are you on right now?

why not take coq10/ubiqonol for bp, it does wonders

>>42206481
I like cardio but I tend to skip to many days, just keeping cardio up is better then taking more stuff to compensate for shitty training.

Supps are simple. Just some Whey and Multivitamins. I"ll also be taking T3 to compensate for Tren.

Bloods are easy once you've done em. Its like pinning really.

>>42206481
Current stack is 40mg dbol, 750mg Test, 400mg Mast and 400mg Deca.
Added 50mcg T3 for the bulk.

Fats are slowly showing but the gains have been insane.

>>42206494
You not ride bike in Netherlands for cardio?

I am not scared for the needle, but for the results

>>42206526
I love running with my dog, otherwise stairmaster.

>>42206520
Btw i have question for you m8. You were right, our source don't got caber. You have another source for that? I want to try deca for my next blast, but i need caber in case of.

will post mail

>>42206548
Our source is adding Caber.

"Jahwel hoor wij hebben Cabergoline van Pfizer 20x 1mg we moeten deze alleen nog op de site zetten."

So be patient or mail them for it.

just ending my 4months test cycle. want to go to the army but they will do shit tons of blood tests and other, how long after putting of sterons my blood and others will be OK and they wont notice?

>>42206570
Oh nice, because i remember they had it on there site but suddenly it got removed. Probably since they needed to run from the cops and change the site theme.

I remember that shit was expensive af. Do you use caber for deca?

How many of you reached the natty limit before you started juicing? That's what I thought, none of you. And to think that you guys give advice to other people (god forbid them if they listen) Good luck fucking with your hormones, I'm sure that'll end up well. Fucking frauds.

fuckk I think I'm growing tits from my Adrol

should I take my nolva or do bloods?

>>42206676
also related question: if my pec fat/tissue is not even between my left and right is it for sure gyno?

>>42206600
Me. Or at least I'm going to be.

Still natty and will be until 25. 5 years lifting natty plus the 3 I already have? Gotta be the natty limit by then

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>>42206600
I could probably have push it further.

>>42206686
>>42206676
Take a fucking ai

fat tissue is nog gyno. You need to reduce bodyfat to reduce them.

>>42206711
pics?

>>42202288
this was my first thought. Enlisted peasants don't make it that far in life

>>42206586
I actually don't, keeping estro in check is enough up to 600mg. Haven't gone higher.

Only with Tren at 720mg I got some nipple juice near the end of the cycle.

>>42206734
Don't post pics on here.

Besides have to get bigger arms before posting them. And cut down some fat. Been eternal bulking mode ever since 2016 new years.

>>42206600
>muh natty limit


Maybe some people like to reach their natty limit quickly.

>>42206734
I'm about 12% bf, the mass near my nips is maybe left side 3 vials worth of volume, and right side 1.5 vials

I had gyno surgery after puberty I'm not sure if it's possible to get gyno a second time

>>42206751
Thanks

>>42206817
fucking pussy

>>42206967
Did they remove the glans? If it's hard, it's gyno if not it's fat.

>>42207152
fk man, it sounds dumb but I can't tell? I had gyno growing up and I never knew until I had a physical

is hard like rock hard? or like cooked chicken vs raw chicken?

>>42207217
Squeeze your nipples, do you feel some hard tissue over there, like fucking hard not soft you can not squeeze through it

gyno is no joke, i have luckily reversed it with letro but i got permanent eye damage from letro

IF you got gyno you fucking know it, otherwise you're in denial.

>>42207292
I had an endocrinologist check out my chest a few weeks ago, she said the tissue was fine. but since then I started my Adrol Test cycle. could I develop this much gyno volume in 10 days? 12.5 mg asin E3.5D

I don't feel anything behind my nipple but there's an asymmetry in the fat(?) distribution between my pecs. I could be retarded or having extreme first cycle anxiety

>>42207367
>I don't feel anything behind my nipple
>I could be retarded or having extreme first cycle anxiety
I would say both

Steroids can make you paranoid, that's what it's doing to you right now. No need to worry

>>42207292
How did you get eye damage?

>>42205367
You shouldnt be roiding if you cant figure that out.

Chubby fuck here, if i do a cycle on a cut will i get good gains and fat loss? Also will i get roid rage and shit like that.

>>42207432
damn I thought paranoia was just from tren... thanks for the help. I guess buying ugl AI had me spooked, I wanna verify with bloods but not this early

>>42207462
>if i do a cycle on a cut will i get good gains and fat loss?
no

>>42207485
So just lose fat then get on a cycle when i start looking good

>>42207495
that's ideal, otherwise you'll be subject to extraneous estrogenic sides at high bf

>>42207451
Probably because letro killed 98% of my e2 at that time. Letro is satans poison, i couldn't even walk because my joints were so fucked.

I dunno man, if i read something on a website with white letters and black background i see all kinds of stripes in my eyes, really fuckdup.

>>42207472
You have anxiety and that is fortified by steroids.

do sterons give you jaw gains? or is this the puberty/genetic lotto

>>42207509
Why were you taking letro?

>>42207462
You will get roid rage and your dick will get smaller.

>>42207662
For gyno, what else

>>42207784
How did you get gyno just running test and mast?

>>42207883
Is that rhetorical disbelief.

>>42207883
>>42207883
I have also run test only.

first cycle was test + mast
second was test
then cruise, then blast, now cruise again.

>>42207509
I'm running 2.5mg a day now to blast away that last bit of gyno.
Works wonders, deca keeps my joints comfy and I feel great.
That said my estro conversion is a bitch.

>>42207883
You can get gyno pretty quickly from just test alone. I need 1mg adex eod for just test alone.

>>42208071
Wow that sucks. Are you high bf or just gyno prone?

>>42208071
You know that letro has a crazy rebound?

fucking letro, i will never take it again. It's superior for gyno tho. I had a nickel sized gyno tissue and is now completely gone.

Just with hair loss, gyno is no joke. You have to act asap when you notice the side effects otherwise it's not reversible anymore

>>42208071
>I need 1mg adex eod for just test alone.
fuck, and your lipids are still fine?

i have read that adex is crazy bad for your cholesterol and you take zero supplements beside vitamines. i hope i am blessed with the same genetics

>>42208149
Aromasin/exemestane is a milder ai. And easy to find in nederland

>>42208071
>You can get gyno pretty quickly from just test alone. I need 1mg adex eod for just test alone.
Weird, I can do 1,000 mg Test E per week and not get gyno or any signs of gyno without using any AI. I still use AI just to curb estrogen.

>>42208237
Yeah i know, it's also less harsh on lipids. I may try it next time

>>42208279
Are you fucking retarded?

Some people can smoke and drink and still become 100
some people live healthy and die at 30.

not everyone has the same estrogen conversion