/FPH/ - Fat People Hate

>>42185065
aint nothing wrong with fat people loving themselves.. its just when they expect others to.. kek

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>>42185049
jon (((stewart)))

>>42185027
This doc is stupid. Sure they bring up some good stuff but at it's core it's basically saying "oh it's not your fault if you're fat! that's just the food industries fault!"

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This is the worst thing I have ever seen because I've experienced it first-hand when I was overweight. I was working with my dad painting at a factory and was moving around a ton so by the end of the day my thighs were chafed to hell and back, like it was a rash or something. It burned so much and I felt so disgusted that day 2 years ago. I hate it when fatasses get upset at me when I scorn them for their shit lifestyle because nigger I've been through it so I have a fucking right to be sickened by you. It doesn't help that getting to a normal BMI is fucking easy, I started out by simply cutting out soda, milk, and eating at night.

>>42186008
why not both?

that food is designed to be horribly addictive and kill you.

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>>42186099

>>42186099
>why not both?

Because losing weight is easy and it's really not difficult to avoid shitty foods with added sugar once you know what to look for. The movie also says calories in calories out is bullshit which is fucking hilarious.

>>42185065
>I LOVE MY FAT BODY
No you don't, if you were offered by a genie or something to become thin in an instant you'd take the offer in a heartbeat. Fatties are so transparent and readable it's actually ridiculous how they can even do enough mental gymnastics to convince themselves to be alright with their current state. Fucking pigs.

>>42186139
>Because losing weight is easy
its definitely not easy and you wouldnt know if you've never been a lard ass.

losing weight is literally the most painful thing I have ever done.

that being said, I agree not eating crap is the only solution.

>>42185027
>This video contains content from (((The Weinstein Co.))) who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

>>42186172
What is that? And how can it afford 4 slaves?

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>>42186251
My 600 lb life

The episode is "Justin and Stephen"

>>42186212
You can make 2000Cal very filling.

>>42186212

I was fat and I can confirm its easy you probably just have a easy life if thats the hardest thing you ever did

>>42186212
I'm with >>42186300 I've been fat before too and it was simple to lose it. Your discipline is/was just trash

>>42186212
>losing weight is literally the most painful thing I have ever done.
Confirmed for never falling off a tree as a kid, never having been in an actual fight that ended with both sides bleeding and never actually doing anything that kids are supposed to do.

You've wasted your entire youth if losing weight is actually, literally, the most painful thing you have ever done.

>>42186212
>its definitely not easy and you wouldnt know if you've never been a lard ass.

I went from obese to normal weight in 4 months m8. First time in my life I ever went on a diet and it was a complete success. Fuck your excuses

>>42186076
I feel this, this phenomenon is what motivates me to lose weight. Truly started to loathe myself when my thighs steady to rub together, get disgusting.

30 pounds down. I guess I'm grateful that my thighs were fat cause it motivates, lol

>>42186300
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>>42186379
you guys all suffer from confirmation bias.

people who dont have a hard time are more likely to be on /fit/

im sure you guys had an easier time but its really not that easy for everyone else because if it was we wouldnt have 34% of this country as obese, that being said I agree all you do is change diet.

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>>42186099
Because people have personal responsibility to decide what they eat?

You could be out there making and selling the most delicious ice cream in the world, but it's up to people to decide if they want to eat your ice cream until they're obese or not.

>>42186437

Its not easy because you guys are undisciplined pussies just close your fucking mouth

You piece of shit bulking will BREAK YA. Its the most slowest process in the world.

>>42186379
Yup
Once you make eating right and exercising a habit, you can shed weight at 2lb body fat/wk, 1lb conservatively

>>42186413
>If I sit like this, people will think my ungodly massive ballsack is just a massive obesity problem.

>>42186465
I agree with you but you realize that food is designed to kill you right?

Thats my only argument here.

>>42186437
Losing weight is objectively easier than gaining weight. All you have to do is eat less. It's that fucking simple. I understand people have issues with willpower and are tempted by food but compared to so many other things in this world the idea of saying that eating less junk food is difficult is pretty laughable.

>used to smoke
>go to same store almost daily
>two fat chicks work checkouts
>almost always say "those things will kill you" when I get cigarettes from them
>always resist saying something about their weight because reasons
>say some shit like "not soon enough" or "hope so" when they say their line
>tfw I'd get fired if I had the same job and said anything about someone's eating habits
>tfw I quit smoking and they're still fat and work at a grocery store
>tfw even if they manage to lose weight after years of hard work, they'll be covered in stretch marks and loose skin

Kinda tempted to go buy a pack and throw it at one of em and tell them it's an appetite suppressant.

>>42186437
Get some fucking discipline.

>>42186669
>smokes

You're not much better than a fatty

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"Just a taste, james" you say as he continues slurping down his gravy. "We both need our breakfast, correct?" Faintly nodding his approval, you get eye level with the yellowed crust flake on his toe. "An appetizer", you say. James eyes light up and he inquires, "where?" Ignoring him, you slide the tip of your tongue up the edge of the flake, a small piece breaks off and becomes soggy as moisture is returned. Swallowing it, you tilt your head to the left and align your bottom teeth under the crust, moving slightly forward and slicing off the whole piece. "Mm" James grunts as the flake slides under your tongue, the oniony piece turning spongy. You swallow, but with an audible gulp - as large as it is, it didn't go down easy. "Now for the main course" you say wryly. James beady eyes dart all over the room past his plate of gravy and steak, desperately looking for a fuller meal. Holding your nose up to the fold of his legs you take a deep smell all the way into your core. Cheese, mayonnaise and the smell of full rot enter your lungs. You gag, but you will not be denied your feast. Taking one of the leg pustules into your mouth, you bite down hard - thick, yellow pus shoots into your throat and strikes your uvula. With the taste of pure rot, your gag helps the half mouthful of disease get down your throat and into your stomach. This feels wonderful, as you haven't eaten in a day. Finally you pull apart the crux of his legs do reveal half an inch of incredibly thick goop lining the folds. "Laygs" was said from the corpulent James but you barely notice. Sliding a finger into the goop, you happily place it into your mouth and suckle it down. No longer can you help it and you go hog wild, drinking mouthfuls of what used to be skin and fat down your hungry throat. Stomach full and picking your teeth of bits of flesh, you kiss James deeply through the remnants of sausage and gravy lining his lips. Falling asleep on his huge fatpad, well, today was bliss.

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>>42186278
that show is funny

>>42186525
Poison is designed to kill you. And if people go eat that then they are to blame.

>>42186693
Nah, was way better than the fatties while smoking. I'm guessing you're just saying that for your own fat ass' sake, because thinking that smoking is worse than not being able to run more than 30 feet makes you seem retarded.

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>>42186424
Good anon, please don't stop. You'll feel better with every pound lost.

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Imagine sleeping having seen the things he has seen

>>42185797
okay /pol/

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>>42186413
lost

>>42186193
This horrid beast never wanted greatness in her life

>>42186437
The only thing this proves is that 34% of the country are lazy fucks who can't get their shit together.

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>>42185027
>muh evil food companys selling food
>It´s nor my fault that I buy the ljunk food they produce when I could buy healthy food for half the price
>we need to stop them selling the food we want to buy
>we need to ban advertising on food since we are to dumb to read the nutrition lable

Seriously, no one forces you to buy pic related.
People want to drink stuff like that.
I think people should pay for their own health inshureance and let Darwin do the rest.

>>42186963
This isn't real. I refuse to believe this is real.

>>42186983
No crustaceans tho

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>>42186963
i...i eat this on my cheat days
fuck you

>>42186437
I have a TDEE of 1700kcal.
That means I need to eat less than that to loose weight.
Show me a person with a significantly lower TDEE than me.
To loose weight I stay at 500-1000kcal maximum, most people eat that in one meal.
That is about 1-2 fench fries without ketchup at mc-donalds for you fatties.
Sometimes I go even lower than that to speed things up, every other day I get on my bike and cycle 40km.

If you think I have it less hard than you, please explain me why.

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>>42187017
When you can compensate the insane amount of calorie, cholesterol and sodium with the rest of your diet, you will have no problems.
But most people drinking that stuff don´t.

>>42187077
But he can't eat whatever he wants whenever he wants while maintaining his lazy lifestyle of 23+ hours of sitting or lying down. You have no idea how difficult that is. I bet he is eating something unhealthy right now.

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>>42186983
Stuff like that exists and drinking that makes you obese pretty fast.
Guess why these Starbucks-drinking feminazis all got that fat.

>>42187158
He can either eat what ever you want and make Tour de France like cardio or restrict your caloric intake...

>>42186963

2600 calories? what the fuck?

>>42187181
But it's not fair. Why can't he stuff his face with everything that tickles his fancy while expending as little energy as possible? It is such a hard life

I went from 170 pounds down to 155 in 14 days so far, and three of those days I ate takeout.


People don't understand calories at all. When we're looking at obesity (or just raw weight loss) all that matters is calories.

I looked at these fast food menus and tried to figure out what I could eat while keeping a large calorie deficit.

I saw some pretty outrageous things. Blizzard, Flurries, etc. all pack like 1000 calories+ in a single cup. Fucking ridiculous. I know people who would have them daily. That's like half of their calorie intake in a drink..

KFC's popcorn chicken has over 1000 calories in a large. Then you add on their medium fries, that's another 400 calories or so. Then your dipping sauce, probably another 50-100. Then the drink, another 200 assuming its a medium. That's your calorie intake in one meal.

People have no idea how to stop snacking or just eat less. It's ridiculous. It literally only takes a little self control combined with looking up nutrition facts and picking something not so calorie dense.

That's how you solve obesity.

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>>42186963
Absolutely true, but for a lot of people there are no alternatives. 80% of American food products have added sugar, and they're aggressively marketed to us from an age where we cannot even comprehend things like nutrition, and corporations take advantage of the information asymmetry where people do not know they could eat healthier for less.

On an individual scale, "eat less move more" works fine, but when you're solving a nationwide epidemic you need more drastic measures. Not everyone's born with good and educated parents, and not everyone can find out the facts about nutrition when they're constantly being bombarded with fad diets and more marketing campaigns.

Yeah, they may be stupid, but that doesn't solve the problem - that there are tens of thousands of kids suffering from diabetes today because of shitty practice by the food and drinks industry. Lives are being fucked up before they even begin.

Obesity epidemics harm society on the whole too. The nation overall is less productive, and there are far fewer people eligible to become soldiers, firefighters, policemen, and paramedics. If the majority of the population became obese, what the fuck would happen in the event of a war or crisis where able bodied men are urgently needed to defend the nation? It's completely unacceptable in a first world society.

Yeah, it might be caused by stupidity, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be solved. Tax companies for food products high in added sugar or calories, limit portion sizes in restaurants, market fear-mongering anti-obesity shit like they did with smoking, educate people on how you really lose weight.

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>>42187186
That happens when you create a drink out of mainly fat and sugar.
>>42187202
Neither can I, so it is fair.

Why do conservatives tend to be fatter than liberals? Outside of political shitposting what is the actual reason? How would a political belief effect your weight?

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>>42186963
>263g sugar
I drank 4 cans of cider that each had 50g of sugar once. I felt like total shit.

>mfw there are probably people out there that get these things every day.

>>42186963
Why are you people so surprised by this?

This is why bitches get fat.
It's okay is she has the genetics to where it goes to her tits ass waist and thighs and she carries that shit like the redhead from madmen or a brazillian chick.
But most don't.

If an average sized, average activity level woman eats that then her entire calorie allowance if she wanted to lose or maintain weight loss is fucked for 2-3 days.
She'll have to fucking fast on TOP of doing extra exercises to make up for that "little" indulgence.

>>42186172

Of all the people that deserved to die on that show, that fuck face takes first place. The only thing that tempers my hate is how they had fucked up childhoods. literally the best example I've ever seen of a waste of a human being, and everyone around him would be better off if he were dead.

>>42187227
They don't
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/fitness/strong-men-more-likely-to-have-right-wing-views-study-reveals/news-story/7717e27c386b2d310c4452ff804c006d

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>>42187215
>there are no alternatives
The last time I checked, broccoli was cheaper than hamburgers.
>80% have sugar added
How about not buying these?
There are still 20% other food..
>eat less move more doesn´t work on national level
Why?
>not everyone can find out the facts about nutrition
It is not like that would be printed on everything you eat...
>dumb parents
The only legit point so far, maybe teaching kids nutrition at school would help.
>
Obesity epidemics harm society on the whole too. The nation overall is less productive, and there are far fewer people eligible to become soldiers, firefighters, policemen, and paramedics. If the majority of the population became obese, what the fuck would happen in the event of a war or crisis where able bodied men are urgently needed to defend the nation? It's completely unacceptable in a first world society.
Cut welfare and basicly force them to "starve" or work.
>Tax companies for food products high in added sugar or calories, limit portion sizes in restaurants
How about the japanese aproach?
A fat tax would attack the problem more precisely.
When I drink a coke on a long cycling trip, the HFCS won´t harm me.

>>42187229
I never eat/drink that much sugar when not doing excessive cardio.
I needed to do so once when I did a 6 hour hillclimb of 2100m altitude on my bike.

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>>42185027

>>42187215
>Tax companies for food products high in added sugar or calories, limit portion sizes in restaurants
>mo gubmint
I'd rather have the option to become fat than the state to tell me what I can and cannot eat.

>muh let's remove any sort of self responsibility
>it's the the rich dudes trust me goys
>calories in and out is bullshit
>eat a cheeseburger you'll feel a lot better

>>42186709
>read text
>regret not committing suicide 5 minutes ago

end me

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>>42187117
>that look of satisfaction
Good fucking God

>>42187511
>he didn't know to avoid the cursed text

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>>42187328
>The last time I checked, broccoli was cheaper than hamburgers
And corporations and their marketing have taken advantage of an information asymmetry and created the idea that it's cheaper to eat processed food.

>How about not buying these? There are still 20% other food..
But people don't have limitless amounts of money, and corporations and their marketing have taken advantage of an information asymmetry and created the idea that it's cheaper to eat processed food.

>eat less move more doesn´t work on national level
>Why?
Because lots of people wouldn't be honest counting calories, wouldn't know how to count calories, wouldn't know how many calories they burnt, wouldn't have the time for it, would be decieved by marketing, etc. It's a very good way for an individual with patience and dedication to lose weight, but it cannot work on the scale of hundreds of millions of people.

>It is not like that would be printed on everything you eat...
And most people aren't educated enough to know what that means. They think fat makes them fat, don't know how many calories they need, are deceived by weird serving sizes, etc. Even if you started educating the young in schools, you have to wait 50 or so years until they're in the majority.

>Introduce a fat tax, cut welfare
When you have this sort of epidemic, it's far more effective to attack the supply side than the demand side. Look how successful the war on cigarettes was vs the war on drugs.

>>42187415
You could still buy fuckloads of food and get fat if you wanted, a tax would simply internalise the negative externalities associated with obesity, divert idiots away from being obese, and stop corporations from getting people addicted to sugar from a young age.

But hey, I guess social engineering is fine when corporations are doing it.

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>>42187578
How about this?

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>>42187602
delet

>>42187601
>muh corporations
It is not like you could read that on the pricetag in the supermarket.
>muh money
Cooking yourself is cheaper, so if anything money would be my argument.
>people will lie about calories
Then it is their fult for beeing fat and they should pay the (medical) bill.
>don't know how many calories they need
2000kcal, like printed on basicly everything, works for most people.
>attack the supply side
That will affect thin people for no good reason as well.
A fat tax only affects fatties.

>>42186774
Ya know, he's got to have one of the best and easiest (minus the surgery) jobs around

>yea you're too fat
>here eat these starvation rations
>alright you've shown you still had a shred of dignity left let me rip open that gut baby
>ok I just tied a nice little knot into your stomach now off you go

The 5+ years of medschool just to BTFO fatties has to be worth it

>>42185027
Make companies add less sugar by taxing them on the percentage of fat they add to foods. Or just straight up tell fat people they will receive no healthcare.

>>42186589
that's pretty stupid, being in an energy deficit is always going to be more unpleasant than being in an energy surplus

and lifting heavy in an energy deficit is much harder than lifting heavy in an energy surplus, but I don't think most people in these /fph/ threads have ever touched a weight

>>42187740
>add less sugar by taxing them on the percentage of fat they add to foods.
Won´t work, fatties will buy this stuff even if it gets more expensive.
>straight up tell fat people they will receive no healthcare
That would work one way or another...

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The toll they take on the healthcare system is enough reason to hate them. NO, everything doesn't cause cancer these days. The rate of cancer would be way lower if people just changed their diets. The money spent on taking care of people with cancer, heart disease, diabetes and other illnesses caused by a poor lifestyle could've been spent on treatment for other illnesses. Fuck that shit.

Just found this pic under "fat acceptance" on Tumblr. Doesn't take much to find cringy pictures.

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>>42187400
MaryLou, in for the kill

>>42186212
Went from 250 to 174 and still counting.

It's not that hard, you just need some will powerr and some reason

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>>42187653
>It is not like you could read that on the pricetag in the supermarket
I mean, a lot of the time you don't know exactly who your money's going to. Either way though, these are the entities that have the money to engineer society to see fat as acceptable, even in young kids, because it lines their pockets. They are the ones behind obesity rates skyrocketing, not individuals.

>Cooking yourself is cheaper, so if anything money would be my argument.
And, as I've explained to you multiple times, corporations and their marketing have taken advantage of an information asymmetry and created the idea that it's cheaper to eat processed food. Yes, it comes down to the stupidity of the consumer, but that doesn't mean the problem shouldn't be solved.

>Then it is their fult for beeing fat and they should pay the (medical) bill.
But we all pay for the obesity epidemic. When premiums as a whole go up, or when more education and training is needed, or when police officers and soldiers cannot be recruited because they're all fat as fuck, we all lose out. This is especially true if you live in a country with some degree of taxpayer funded healthcare. Obesity as a whole is degeneracy and should be eliminated.

>That will affect thin people for no good reason as well. A fat tax only affects fatties
That's true, but the people it'd effect the most would be the people who consume the most processed shit. A junk food tax would also encourage prevent people from beginning to consume junk in the first place. A fat tax would be politically impossible in most Western European nations, because most have a majority overweight/obese population. In Japan, the fat tax was implemented back when only a tiny minority of people were fat. Other measures against the supply side would also not damage consumers at all. Things like anti-junk food campaigns and limits on advertising, like we saw with smoking.

>>42187783
>Won´t work, fatties will...
It's been proven soda has an elastic demand

>>42187400
Based grandma.

>>42186693
you can smoke for a decade, quit and never get sick. you can smoke your whole life and cancer won't take you until you're already dying.

those fat cashiers will be dead in less than a decade

>>42187771
this, fucking sick of skeletors acting like eating more is somehow hard.

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>>42187878
>you don't know exactly who your money's going to
I know what I buy and what it costs...
>stupid consumer
So it is his own fault...
>premiums go up
How about allowing inshurance companies to charge fatties more?
>more education and training needed
Why is it needed more?
>policemen can not be recruited
Just keep the physical statndards up and wait for people to apply.
There are enough fit people around.
same for soldiers etc.
>taxpayer founded healthcare
How about dropping every fattie?
>fat tax is politically impossible
In Japan it isn´t.
But you could still sell it as a tax break for thin people.
>measures against supply side would not damage consumers
They simply raise prices and charge the consumer more...
>soda has an elastic demand
Fatties will still stick to unhealthy diets.


Also removing junkfood alone won´t remove obesity, you can get obese without it as well.

>>42187982
>delusional fat retards actually believe this
neck yourself

>>42186718
Tell me the left is the before pics please
If yes, it's an incredible transformation

>>42187982
>skeletors acting like eating more is somehow hard.
It is fucking hard since you have to eat untill you feel like throwing up and then eat more.

a YUUUGE problem with American obesity epidemic is how shitty the public transportation are. Americans drive everywhere and get zero exercise because of it. Meanwhile Europeans and Asians walk and bike everywhere because their public transports and infrastructures for cyclists are AMAZING.

>>42187602
Reminds me of burnt peameal bacon with that yellow shit

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>>42187117
>tfw you will never be as happy as she is sipping on that shake

>>42187325
Strong men being more conservative does not mean that conservatives are stronger.

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>>42188062
Asia and Europe has been civilized for thousands of year while the US only a few hundred. Also it's fucking massive, you can't bike 20 miles while you gotta work and shit .

>>42188088
>20 miles
>32km
That is possible with a bike and takes about one hour.

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>>42188116
>Lives in Arizona
>40°C
>Bike an hour to work

>>42188026
Yeah, she was on a TV show with this >>42186774 guy

>>42188185
It isn´t even that bad at 40°C, you just need enough water...

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Got some stuff that I don't think has been posted here before.

Tldr fatty writes a blog about how hard it is being fat on a plane. Pretty satisfying read
https://futuretravel.today/what-it-s-like-to-be-that-fat-person-sitting-next-to-you-on-the-plane-85006e263778

>>42188213
Ive had heatstroke. Never the fuck again. It was 49°C here a week ago. Ill use my car and go to an air conditioned gym.

>>42188255
>stroke
That indicates a bad cardivascular system, not too high training temperature.

>>42186413
Where is this guys knees!

>>42187878
Write succinctly. This is not reddit.

I debated a girl in class who said we shouldnt tell kids what to eat in school because of body shaming issues and I told her that there are objective measures of health that we should encourage kids to strive for

For this comment I got marked a grade down by my presumably leftist teacher

>>42188062

People who say this have no fucking clue how big America is. You just don't get it.

Texas is roughly the same size as the entire country of Germany.

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>>42187117

This image always unsettles me.

>>42185776
Actually there is something wrong with it. There is no situation in the modern world, no body type, no genetic heritage, where obesity doesn't increase a person's risk for health risks.

No matter how much fat people try to convince themselves they love the condition they are in it is simple fact that are in poorer health than if they were in shape. Their bodies are less capable and they are limited in the activities they can do comfortably or at all. If modern conveniences were not incredibly accommodating to the fat they would likely be much less apt to resign themselves to being fat.

In other words, as a former fat person, the love thy speak of is mostly resignation.

>>42187077
you're either a female or an absolute beta-male if your TDEE is 1700

>>42188287
That's easy to say. I live in Germany, and I can't imagine what 49°C feels like.

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>so many fat apologists in this thread

>>42187325
No, dumbass. Learn to fucking read.

>>42188602
AZ fag here. Its not that bad because everywhere has fucking awesome air conditioning and everybody has a pool.

Exercise outside is fucked though. You get sick pretty quickly. Tourists come here and try to go hiking in the summer and die all of the time because they dont understand what 45°C+ does to you.

>>42188249
Should've bought two seats then fatty.

I'm a fatass and I hate other fat people so much. I'm 280 5'11and I really don't understand how people get so fucking huge. I've been losing weight (like 8 pounds last week) and it's so fucking easy. I just stayed under 1500kcals a day and walk or jog every once in a while and the pounds just melt.
Fat people should unironically be gassed and used as food for poor people.

>>42188658
We get something similar but opposite here. In the winter it goes down to 30 below and it's fucking breathtakingly beautiful with all the snow and shit but retards from warm countries visit and end up freezing to death in the forest all the time.

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>>42188814
>so easy
>5'11 280lbs

not gunna to make it

>>42187400
Jesus Christ, MaryLou

>>42188849
I started like 2 weeks ago from 290. First week I didn't walk at all either.

>>42188877
come back when you are 160 and show us photos of your skin flaps.

>>42188897
At least I don't puke when working out faggot. Also, to help you out, eat some food before lifting. Even a quick piece of toast just to settle your stomach.

>>42186525
food, the thing we need to survive, is designed to kill us? lmfao no. If you mean fast food or addictive food, still no. If you're dead you can't keep buying, it's bad for business.

>>42186718
Amber is one of my heros,she accepted her weight would kill her and it was her fault. Her episode is sad af too.
>eating her new healthy dinner
>troglodie bf is eating a fucking burger right next to her

>>42188287
>heat stroke
>bad cardiovascular

Fucking wrong. Runners are known for becoming susceptible to heat stroke and heat exhaustion during longer races. It has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your heart.

>>42186212
Kinda agree, former lardass here.

When people tell you can make a ~2000kcal diet very filling they don't realize it's not about hunger but about the sweet release of hormones that comes with the trash food, I could stuff myself with veggies and chicken and would sit there still empty in my mind wanting some of those sweet or salty snacks to get the buzz going on.

While I fucking hate fatties as I hated myself back then I find just as vile the attitude from ones asking you to "just eat less" or "eat healthy food"
It's like asking a heavy smoker to suck on a lollipop or a alcoholic to drink water instead, don't make it look like it's a walk in the park when others find it so hard, it fucking demoralizes us and instead you should post motivational or FPH.

>>42187601
Thanks for expanding, fampai. Good points on why CICO, while perfectly scientific, isn't the only answer needed by the general uneducated populace. It totally works, but with so many extenuating factors, it's not a practical solution by itself (unless the whole world gets woke overnight and realised how fucking simple it could be)

>>42186076
Honestly though, I'm 10% Bf and I have a bald spot where my legs rub and my legs aren't even that swole.

If you want to get shredded it still going to happen

>>42189965
Depends on hip size

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>>42186709

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!?!?!?!

>>42186139
I'm not excusing the behavior of these sick people but conquering addiction is never easy.

It's like people with heroin addicts "why don't you just stop" it's not that simple.

That being said, I haven't done heroin for about 1350 days. If I can kick heroin, they can kick mcd' s. They need education, a healthy environment, and discipline. Lots of discipline practice.

>>42186963

38g of protein is surprising

>>42187995
>what is the greater good
Are you a fatty, needlessly stubborn, or just having trouble comprehending his points? Yes, you could go with the stick (dropping healthcare for fats) instead of the carrot (education and fat/sugar taxes increasing the likelihood people will buy healthy foods), but that introduces compliance and human rights issues that will only muddy the core issue (obeasts) and possibly even spawn some kind of resistance movement because muh rights. Why pick the hard way when there's a better choice?

>but I'm fit so shouldn't pay more for muh one soda a week
Suck it up princess. The scheme anon outlined will help people ignorantly drinking 60 sodas a week more than it will harm your wallet.

>>42187601
>the corporations!!!

Everyone who uses this overly generalized bullshit spoopy term should be ignored.

You've been fined 2 internets

>>42187400
holy fucking kek

>>42188877
Good job anon, keep going. We're all gonna make it

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>>42188249
I know I am 14 months to late for this to be relevant but I am gonna do it anyway.

>>42187939
Some of you are just as delusional and irrational as those you are hating in this thread.

What you said is dumb and you should feel bad.

>>42190058
Except it's true because in a capitalist system, the greatest reward comes from shilling your random crap regardless of health, environmental, humanitarian, or literally any other reasons. Even when it's literal unironic sugar-coated horse shit

>>42187982
>everyone else has exact same experience as me
>otherwise you're wrong

>>42187215

>an age where we cannot even comprehend things like nutrition

Are they retarded?

>corporations take advantage of the information asymmetry where people do not know they could eat healthier for less

Are the retards are too busy facebooking to use the internet for what it is...a vast repository of free and easily accessible knowledge on literally any topic you could be curious about.

I'm old enough to remember the pre-internet era, know how fucking annoying it was to have to go to a library in the hopes of finding a book containing knowledge of something I wanted to learn? Now people are sitting with the sum of all human knowledge AT THEIR FUCKING FINGERTIPS and they're still too stupid and lazy to educate themselves?!?!?!

Fuck this "I don't know any better" bullshit

>>42190058
>>42190099
That's not to minimize the crucial importance of personal responsibility, but there are also culturally and monetarily entrenched oppositional forces, dedicated to keeping the hogs hooked on their trash, that a lot of /fit/ educated folks don't notice or acknowledge as well

>>42188062
>uneducated Europoor detected
Here in burgerland, our country is too large and sparsely populated for that shit. If we make it another 500 years maybe by then we will have the population density, but until then, we are going to have to drive

>>42188213
Are you supposed to shower before work, at work somehow?

Use your brain before you reply.

Also if you have a 12 hour shift fast paced on your feet, is it really realistic to bike 20miles before and after?

If you're working even 40 hours a week, an extra 2 hours each day really adds up. Not everyone has as easy a life as you do.

>>42188287
>heat stroke = stroke


I dont even....

>>42189971
Does It? Look at any BBer/PLer with decent sized legs and they touch. Unless they do the swole guy waddle

>>42190099
I didn't disagree with that. It's just a generalized, cliche, overused term that doesn't mean anything. You never hear "companies, conglomerations, groups" etc from the "after 2 weeks on /x/ I'm a conspiracy expert" types. It's always "corporations"

It's like people who misuse "literally". You may not be an idiot but it sure makes you look like one.

>>42189315
A runner is less likely to have heat stroke when walking around than a fatty because
1. they're an appropriate weight and therefore less insulating fat
2. if your body is working near it's limit you're more likely to heat stroke and a runner won't hit the same level of exertion as a fatty during mundane activity

>>42188249
>https://futuretravel.today/a-letter-to-delta-airlines-concerning-my-day-in-airport-prison-169b273ad456
This goddamn motherfucking site
I am reading a story about some nu-male getting an "anxiety attack" (as in, getting pissed and not knowing how to handle that shit) and being a dick to his actually physically ill fiancee because they have to wait in the airport because of a canceled flight
I want to se this dude's face, bet has an unkempt beard and streatched earlobe piercings

>>42190043
>human rights issue
Healthcare has never been a right, it's a privilege that we can enjoy given our relative success as a species. But if someone clearly doesn't care about their own health, then those of us who do shouldn't have to pay more and pick up the slack. I'm not in favor of taking away healthcare, but calling it a "human rights issue" is just emotional nonsense. Giving a 600 lb person free healthcare is enabling them. Subconsciously tells them that no matter what someone will pay their doctor bills, and keep them alive as long as possible.

>>42190122
I agree. And now we spoon feed info in the form of netflix and youtube documentaries. You don't even have to read, just sit back and watch and you'll learn how to not be a fat shit.

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>>42190122
>Are they retarded?
Yes anon most people are retarded

people think you can directly turn muscle into fat
people don't intuitively know that this thing (pictured) is 2000 cals
people don't know the first thing about health


information asymmetry doesn't exist any more because of the internet. now it's about information overload. google 'nutrition' and how many pieces of conflicting information are you going to find?

>>42190136
Those forces exist because we give them our money. We can stop any time we want. I used to be 6'5" 350, fat as shit. I knew why I was fat, doesn't take a rocket scientist. Most people know why they are fat, and understand all the small decisions that got them there. Maybe they don't see the big picture, but they know every time they go to the pantry and get a big ole bowl of chips.

>>42186413
>hasn't seen his dick for 20 years
Gotta feel bad

>>42190322
To be fair, that thing is practically a marvel of science in how much sugar is loaded into it.
>The brain responds to sugar by releasing endorphins; amount of endorphins released increasing with the amount of sugar consumed
>However, after a certain point, if the subject tastes too much sugar, the brain believes it has been poisoned, and the poison reaction overpowers the positive response and creates a negative stimuli, i.e the "sickeningly sweet" taste.
>By adding a shit-ton of salt, the person consuming the shake doesn't consciously taste the excessive amount of sugar, so the body doesn't reject it as poison. But they still unconsciously taste the sugar, and the brain still releases endorphins dose-dependently.

>>42190452
That's some mad scientist shit.

Any /fit/izen willing to comment on this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html?_r=0

>>42185049
>Jon Stewart
>Unfunny material that's been done a thousand times

Checks out

>>42187578
Notice that they only have that facial expression when they're eating or drinking. They use it as an opiate.

>>42186437
It is easy though. Like all things in life, in order to succeed you need discipline and focus. If you don't have those then you will fail. Yes it is hard at times to say no to that shitty food that would put you over your caloric limit for the day. Yes it is easy to give up and just eat what you want. But if you only do what is easy, your life will be hard. When you do what is hard then your life becomes easy.

It's that fucking simple. Count your fucking calories. Stay focused on your goal and maintain the discipline required to achieve it.

>>42185027
Have them cope with whatever bullshit issue that brought them to that state and force them on a caloric deficit.exercise when weight is low enough.

Literally the only way.

>>42187117
>a venti frap with extra caramel
I work at Starbucks and I make more venti fraps with extra caramel for hamplanets than I do anything else. There have been a few times where i start making the fucking thing before the whale has even reached the register.

>>42190650
Got any stories?

>>42187206
Great job on the weight loss! It's pretty insane how many calories are actually in this shit once you pay attention to them.

>>42186193
>im jewish AND a woman

>>42187227
Because poor people tend to be fatter and the conservatives you're thinking of are fat poor rednecks. Their democratic counterparts are all the obese black people,

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>>42190452
>>42190505
Agreed.
Read 'Salt Sugar Fat' to redpill yourself on this.

Companies engineer food to be as addictive as possible so you buy more of it. No surprise people are getting fatter.

Look at the back of a lunchables box. This thing is aimed at kids and it has 32g of sugar. They don't even put the % next to it because it would be over 100%. (Recommend max sugar intake for a grown man is about 35g/day) So you feed your kid this for lunch because it looks innocent enough and they're already over the sugar limit. Then they drink orange juice and eat a chocolate bar or whatever and they grow up fat and addicted to sugar.

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>mfw coming home from work and my mother made cinnamon buns

I have really shit willpower, how do I stop myself? The urge is fucking strong boys

>>42190664
No FPH stories unfortunately (or thankfully?). The whales that come in tend to just get large fraps and like 2-3 pastries. Sometimes they'll order a venti frap with extra caramel, double the syrup etc, but then get no whip. As if it even makes a difference. My favorite though are the fatties that get the skinny drinks (nonfat milk and sugar free syrup) but then make sure to ask fo EXTRA whip. Like, I know that they're just going to justify it to themselves and their friends that they "always get a skinny mocha because they're healthy" and never mention the half a cup of whip they consumed. Also, I do often get fatties that just get a short cup full of whip, ostensibly for the dogs that they claim to have but there's never a dog. Or there might of been but the creature likely consumed it.

Plenty of shitty customers though. Only have to do this shit until the end of summer and winter break though then I'm off to bigger and better things.

>>42187117
The cruelest irony is the beauty represented on her dress...
White
Pure
Thin
BLUGH

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>>42186709

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Be honest, what's the most realistic way to deal with the current obesity trend?

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>>42190774
I have fucking garbage willpower too. I'm in college right now, can't wait to move out, since my family always buys shitty food. My advice is to just stay away from it, stay in your room and ignore it. Find something to distract yourself, start watching a show or play vidya, or read a book. I usually look at pictures of my ideal body type that I've saved. Or just watch some clips from My 600-lb Life on youtube or something.

>>42190235
literally:
in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
"the driver took it literally when asked to go straight over the roundabout.
informal
used for emphasis while not being literally true.
"I have received literally thousands of letters"

Next time instead of arguing semantics or making ad hominem attacks, you could try actually taking a valid debate position.

>>42190285
I agree but the hambeasts will not. It's not about what's most technically correct. It's about solving the problem as effectively as possible. Practical>theoretical solutions.

>>42190336
And yet the "epidemic" is only getting worse. What we're trying presently is not working. Why not utilise more approaches and hedge our bets for the future?

>>42185027
Make obesity an expensive choice

Neck yourselves fat apologist.

>>42186437
I agree with this guy and ive never been a fat fuck. But cutting is literally fucking awful and i can see why obese people give up. I couldnt imagine starving for over a year

>>42190774

Your mother is sabotaging you.

>>42186669
my little quip when people give me shit is i say they're prescription.

>>42190235
>>42190933
Though you're right in the sense that corporations are not the only shills, by any means. I was just using "the industry" as a handy catch-all identifier for all the corporations/conglomerates/groups/whatever you like to call them that have a vested interest in pushing their products and way of life.

Didn't mean to over-react on a Nepalese silk spinning board, but you're really not adding anything by just calling people dumb, fampai

>>42187215
4chan kids are too edgy to think of matters beyond individual responsibility. They have no desire or capability to look at things as a bigger picture or on a national scale

>>42185027
Stop healthcare programmes and benefits for diseases caused by lifestyle choices (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Use the money saved to educate citizens on healthy eating and lifestyle choices.

>>42190452
I don't much care for sweets, but I'm horribly addicted to salt
I mean drink soy sauce from the bottle kind of addiction
Am I going to live past 50?

>>42187601
>Introduce a fat tax, cut welfare
>When you have this sort of epidemic, it's far more effective to attack the supply side than the demand side. Look how successful the war on cigarettes was vs the war on drugs.
This is a valuable point that nobody brings up often enough. National education and above all taxes have shattered the smoking culture in this country. Theres no reason it couldnt work on calorie dense foods

>>42190970
The mice were just the genetics

>>42191034
I used to be the same way, but I stopped that shit quick, since my family has a history of hypertension and high blood pressure.
I'd say to just cut out salts. Start cooking recipes that don't require salt to taste good or start using salt substitutes and other spices instead, and stop buying salty foods. There's a small chance that it could be a signal of something health related, but I'm just some nigga on a Mongolian mounted maritime rescue board, so take that with a grain of whatever.

>>42187939
>you can smoke for a decade, quit and never get sick.
>you can smoke your whole life and cancer won't take you until you're already dying
Please tell me this is bait. Jesus christ. And youre sitting here talking about how uneducated people are about nutrition

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>omg everyone is getting fat yaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

pure crabs in a bucket

>>42188062
Brilliant. Let me just hop on a bike and make the 65 mile trip into the corporate office

>>42190122
>3 year olds firmly grasp nutrition
Dude youve lost everyone now and youre just spouting bait

>>42190285
But healthcare is a right. Go to the er and theyll treat you. Youre drawing an arbitrary line at the expense of an entire nations well being

>>42190610
Simple =/= easy. Its simple to pick 6 random numbers. That doesnt make winning the lottery easy

>>42190043
>Suck it up princess.

Shove your taxes up your ass princess.

I'm not paying even more and helping create another useless corrupt government branch so you can play commie food police.

>>42191260
Why does everyone forget parents exist? If a kid is too young to make an informed choice, then it's the parent's responsibility to make it for them. It's the parent's responsibility to protect their kids from bad influences, including shitty food marketing. Some parents may not care about their own health, but they sure as hell care about their child's.

>>42190912
Education and taxation. Stricter government standards on what is marketed to children

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>>42187740
>Reduce sugar content by taxing added fat

>>42190891
That level is Double Header, Toad Village or Gee Wiz in Crash Bandicoot 3 Warped. I beat that game like five times, I recognize that tent in the background.

>>42191309
Because not everyone has great parents? Not everyone was raised in the suburbs with kale chips and organic fuji apples as an after school snack you fucking shitlord. Jesus christ i didnt even have parents i almost ended up in foster care who knows what hell i dodged

>>42191309
>all parents are great
You are the epitome of sheltered teen mindset. Are you at least having a good summer?

>>42191362
Cant be too great if hes spending it inside on a mesopatamian fiddle playing forum

>>42191352
>lets set public policy using a minority group which is unrepresentative of the general public and see how that goes.

We are all very impressed with your sob story but lets be reasonable.

>>42190983
Worth the read

>>42191284
Healthcare is a commodity treated as a right. Rights aren't limited by how many people receive them at once, nor are at the expense of someone else. If too many people visit A&E simultaneously, some people won't receive treatment despite having a "right" to it. If a government can't fund public hospitals, then the employees and medical suppliers would be forced to work for free, not to mention the electricity and water suppliers would have work for free too, and forced free labour isn't sustainable. Also it's slavery.

>>42190336
That's just not realistic son... It makes sense on a theoretical level like so many other supply sided theories. (ex : If we all stopped smoking cigaratte would disappear !, if we all stopped consuming meat/drugs, there would be no market etcetc)
Except nowadays people eat what they are given and used to, and they are used to by people who have for final objective to get you hooked.
Similarly, the supply-side reasoning doesn't hold for the simple fact that needs can be created, 20 years ago noone needed hand-phones and social medias, now noone can live without it. Meaning that even people outside of the need can be brought in, with a bit of savvy marketing.

It's not conspiracy 'the corporations OWN US, MAAAAN', it's really what the entire goods industry is about.

>>42191383
>obese parents are the minority
Ummm... i have some bad news for you

>>42191401
>life saving emergency care is slavery for doctors making 6 figures+
Mental gymnastics: the post

>>42186437
That's a weird way of saying that it's so easy that 68% of the country can do it.

>>42191432
Over half of those 68% left are still overweight my dude

>>42191424
How do you imagine doctors will collect if their care is a right?

>that operation will be 50k
>lol, no you have to do it, it's my right, you can't refuse
>shit

>>42188249

I don't have any fat friends.

>>42191456
Emergency care is literally already a right dumbass

>>42191424
What about the nurses? The psychologists? The technicians? The receptionists? Midwives? Therapists? IT assistants? Not to mention all the cleaning and janitorial jobs. If you make a service free, then obviously one or more of these people are gonna take a pay cut.

>>42191424
If one of your rights is dependent on another person's actions, it is not a right. You have a right to your own body, your own decisions, your own property, and your own thoughts. You do not have the right to healthcare in the same way you do not have the right to make someone pay for your food.

>>42191300
>implying HHS doesn't already exist
If you're going to make knee-jerk personal attacks, at least do your research

>>42190560
Go read the responses to a "I need to lose 40 lbs in 30 days" or similar thread and stop being retarded.

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>>42186709

>>42191456
Yes i can imagine it because americas been doing it for over 30 years
>The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA) passed by Congress in 1986

>>42191493
Thr whole point of the arguments in this thread is obesity prevention. That would be s much bigger net positive on healthcare costs than whatever overtime the IT guy charges. Lol

>>42190974
It gets harder to lose the further you go. I wasn't ever hungry going from obese to a normal BMI. That just involved not eating junk and practicing portion control. Cutting within normal BMI while trying to meet protein requirements is definitely a different animal.

>>42191499
Have you actually considered what you would need to do to tax "bad" food?

You would need a monsterous amount of people and money to police food. It's not as simple as tobacco and alcohol, you can't blanket tax something people require for life itself. You would need people to decide what food is "bad" how "bad" it is and you need to do this for every possible type of food you can buy.

It's all very reddit to just say "tax junk food" but if you bothered to think about it for a moment you would realize it's an insanely impractical thing to do.

>>42191604
Its almost as if theyd need to dedicate an entire administration to food and drugs...

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>>42191125
>Take that with a grain of whatever

>>42187602
you can actually see shit in the lower large intestine gross

>>42191504
>they pulled money from nowhere
>it's not that they just transferred the cost to every other service they provide

Anon, a hospital does not have a money tree at it's center hidden from view. To exist it must make money, if you take their money, they must make it up elsewhere.

>>42191631
That must be why every hospital in the nation went bankrupt in 1987

>>42187400

My grandma was exactly like this. Fucking savage.

>>42191623
>the people who do food safety could just magically do 1000% more work policing all food
>we totally won't need billions of dollars a year to fund my Orwellian scheme.

Are you being intentionally dense or are you just that stupid?

>>42187206
>15 lbs in 14 days
I refuse to believe this without starving yourself and an exorbitant amount of cardio

>>42191642
They passed the cost on you bloody fool. If they didn't yes they would have gone bust.

They cannot pass the cost along if you make everything they do free if people just don't feel like paying and they will cease to exist because they will run out of money.

>>42187601

>why can't people lose weight?
>they aren't smart enough or really trying

Oh fuck, now I get it.

>>42191655
They already police the food. Thats where those funny little numbers on the side of the box come from

>>42191668
>still arguing that a law thats been in place your entire life wouldnt work
Are you fucking retarded? I know they passed the buck onto me. Thats why this entire thread ive been saying we need systems in place to curb obesity before it starts

>>42191655
>trying to prevent obesity is an orwellian scheme
How fat are you exactly?

>>42191667
Maybe loss of water weight? But yeah, sketchy.

>>42191688
Healthcare is not, and cannot be, a right without making slaves out of a great many people.

Your argument that a small portion of healthcare is already a right is not proof of fact as I have explained to you. There is no free lunch.

>>42191727
>america passed a law saying emergency care is an undeniable right
>but i say its not so ha!
Take your (You). Theres no sugar in it so idk why your fat ass keeps begging for them

>>42187601
>taken advantage of an information asymmetry

So taken advantage of really stupid and/or lazy people? The way I found out that healthy food was cheaper was by wandering into my local supermarket craving an apple. The information is out there, the only thing stopping people from finding it is that they are stupid and/or lazy, and these big bad corporations you keep complaining about have the audacity to advertise that what they are selling is low cost.

>>42191704
>If you don't want to give more money to the govt so they can squander it pointlessly you must be fat.

How hard did you cry when Bernie lost?

>>42191298
Okay just keep making excuses and acting like not stuffing your face and counting your calories is some arduous task. You are SUCH a martyr for cutting your calories, just HOW do you do it?!

>>42191752
But why would you want this to continue? Shouldnt we try to curb the obesity epidemic? That would benefit everyone

>>42191758
But taxes work. If a sugary cereal is noticably more expensive than steel cut oats more consumers will choose oats. Look how many people smoke today vs 1950

>>42191788
And not just taxes. Changing how cigerette companies were allowed to advertised was a tremendous tool. Imagine if marlboro had a cool cartoon mascot that targeted kids during paw patrol

>>42191788
Smoking was also made way less socially acceptable through legal means, when I was growing up restaurants used to have smoking and non-smoking sections. Now you just can't smoke in a restaurant.

>have no food in the house
>mom and I are hungry
>offer to take her out to this buffet that we have coupons for
>under 500cal prior to meal
>had a plate of salad and a plate of other nonshit things
>cave and have two small pieces of cheesecake

Forgive me father for I have sinned

>>42191788
>Look how many people smoke today vs 1950

I could argue taxes had nothing to do with tobacco use declining, and it was all to do with the negative health effects being made widely known to the public.

So why should be tax food, why not simply educate people and let them make their own informed decision?

You know, like they are free.

>>42186709
Dem gains

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>>42185027
#GasAndRecycle

>>42191831
Taxes from tobacco was used to help spread and advertise the negative effects of tobacco usage.

Taxing unhealthy food will help educate people to make their own informed decision thanks to the income being placed towards that.

>>42191847
Most people know what food is unhealthy, they just eat it anyway because the physiological response your body has to sugar/grease/etc is basically a legal drug. Also I think a lot of fatties are depressed and can't really be happy or sad without those chemicals.

>>42191847
>Taxes from tobacco was used to help spread and advertise the negative effects of tobacco usage.

Was it necessary? Or effective?

We don't have an ongoing series of ads about not drinking bleach, because it's not necessary as everyone knows it's a bad idea, and those that do it anyways won't be stopped by a stupid advert.

The fact something exists does not mean it is useful, especially if it exists because a government created it.

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>>42186709
4chan hasn't taken any innocence from me in about 6 years... make that 30 seconds.

>>42191873
>is basically a legal drug

Be a little more melodramatic please.

>>42191831
>I could argue taxes had nothing to do with tobacco use declining
You could but youd be wrong. Everyone knows doughnuts are an unhealthy breakfast option. But theyre inexpensive and highly marketed

>>42191912
So now youre denying basic physiology?

>>42191919
>You could but youd be wrong

Prove it.

>>42191912
But it is, your body releases chemicals proportional to how "good" the food you are eating is. Problem is our bodies haven't kept up with our rapid advances in food production so we have a "good" reaction to something that is actually bad.

>>42191929
No, I'm mocking you for being ridiculous.

A burger is not a hit of crack. You don't see fat people holding up Burger Kings all across America.

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>>42191209
This is beautiful, thank you.

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>>42191894
>was the attack on tabacco effective?
Yes

>>42186076
How overweight were you? Were you a giant fatty, or just chubby?

>>42191894
>Was it necessary? Or effective?
To this point here
>>42191831
>...it was all to do with the negative health effects being made widely known to the public.

If we're going to hear the argument that taxes could have had little to no effect on the decline due to information spread, then we can't also claim that the information spread was negligible at the same time.
>>42191873
Physiological responses like those could also be received from successfully completing a workout too. Promote the workout as the best option. Tax the candy bars for being a worse one.

>>42191960
They dont have to. They can buy a burger for $2

>>42191971
>correlation always equals causation

Why are socialists always idiot children who think themselves to be clever?

@42191992
Holy shit. This has to be bait at this point. Fuck off dude. No more free (You)s. At least try

>>42191992
>taxation and education are socialism somehow
Find a new buzzword

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>>42190952
Wow.

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>>42186709

>>42191974
>then we can't also claim that the information spread was negligible at the same time.

Yes, exactly. we do not know which event caused the effect. Which is why it's not a good argument for one path or the other.

That was the point.

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>>42191960
Not the other anons, but food can absolutely be addictive. You get a chemical feeling of satisfaction when eating - as you should, otherwise how the fuck would primitive man have known that finding food is a good thing. For those prone to addiction, it only gets worse as they continue their behavior. They get fast food since they don't have to get out of their cars to order and eat it. Partially shame and addiction.

>>42185027
Don't want to go /pol/ on you guys, but if people were responsible for paying for their own healthcare, then this wouldn't be an epidemic.

>>42190891
>fox
go fuck yourself

>>42190560
Probably one of those things where they aren't reporting their TDEE or calories consumed accurately, I'd hazard.

>>42192015
>I just want to create a gigantic bureaucracy to police and categorize all food so I can tax it, but it's for the benefit of society on the whole!

Yes nothing socialist about that.

>>42192032
Yes it would. Plenty of people are obese for years or decades before they need medical intervention

>>42187206
Went from 175 to 160 in like 30 days without even trying that hard. Just started cooking from scratch more and no takeout. Also, cut out soda. Getting fat on take out and donuts while commuting to work.
Was at the state fair today and couldn't believe the number of people in wheel chairs and rented scooters because they're so fat and all the people eating fucking deepfried Mayo on a stick and whatnot . Fucking savages.

>>42191667
Even then, it was probably largely water weight (and some muscle tissue depletion).

>>42192030
You are trying to pass simple pleasure from eating as a serious and dangerous addiction which people need government intervention to save them from.

It's nonsense.

>>42192067
As i pointed out the fda already exists. I also dont think you understand what socialism is as america and every developed nation in the world already has taxes

>>42192067
Who cares if it is socialist if it works?

>>42192032
most fatsos start getting fat when they are 5 years old
so, no

>>42192102

Am I arguing with a dog who has learned to type?

>>42192090
Hello Boogie.

>>42192090
Just because you dont understand science doesnt make it nonsense. Are you by chance a flat earther?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23719144/

>>42192022
>One or the other
But it's both.
Both occurred over this tread here
>>42191971
As for causation, let's take a Tobbaco backed studies website for a spin for some more recommendations
https://tobacco.ucsf.edu/tobacco-taxes-are-not-most-effective-tobacco-control-policy-actually-implemented

Here's it's listed as not the most effective. But they go on to list better ways to reduce smoker numbers aside from taxing which they showed was still effective.

>Banning in the workplace
>Don't bring your cupcakes to workday
>Strong Graphic Warning Labels
>Fat pieces of shit on every box and bar. Might as well throw in some insulin packages and the monthly cost of upkeep at pharmacies.
>Strong Media Campaigns
>The ads discussed above
>R rated for Smoking in Movies
>OH FUCK, NO MORE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE EVERYBODY IS REPRESENTED IN MOVIES. FAT PEOPLE ARE R RATED FOR FUCKING DISGUSTING

I'm okay with any of those actually.
This is amazing.
Ban images of fat people in movies for kids under 18. It's just lovely.

>>42192105
Socialism has a great tendency to work out.

>>42192140
There is nothing anticapitalist about taxation. The product and distribution of it would still be left to private corporations. The government wouldnt own hostess, theyd just tax consumers who bought it

>>42192147
Did you bother to read the first paragraph of that?

I know you are looking for an excuse for why you are such a wretched fat ass but claiming sugar "addiction" is just another cop out and it's bullshit.

>>42192189
I read the entire study actually. Something i noticed youve failed to do

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>>42186413
He looks like an obese oompa loompa

>>42187215
Post enlightened quote.

Proceed to spew juvenile socialist dogma, which has been proven 1,000 times not to work.

Let me guess... third year university coming up.

>>42192160
These are extreme examples but youre 100% right. Ban marketing to kids. Tax shitty food. Stop advertisements with models eating thickburgers. And put fda warning labels on every package. Obesity rates would start their decline within a few years

>>42192195
Read it again.

Sugar is not cocaine you fool.

>>42192179
When do you halfwit kids go back to your expensive day care?

>>42190770
>Recommend max sugar intake for a grown man is about 35g/day
brah
that's less than a single can of pepsi

>>42192248
So everything beneficial to society is socialism? Is that seriously your definition?

>>42192233
Ok
>Overall, this research has revealed that sugar and sweet reward can not only substitute to addictive drugs, like cocaine, but can even be more rewarding and attractive. At the neurobiological level, the neural substrates of sugar and sweet reward appear to be more robust than those of cocaine (i.e., more resistant to functional failures), possibly reflecting past selective evolutionary pressures for seeking and taking foods high in sugar and calories.

>>42192291
no, everything that could negatively impact him personally is socialism
like paying taxes

>>42188877
You're gonna make it Anon, ignore the haters ITT

>>42192306
Maybe instead of mocking schools he should attend one. Without fafsa of couse. Thats socialism

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>>42186963

unf nice

>>42190650
that's not a frap, looks like iced coffee.

This thread has been derailed

Just read this thread top to bottom. Holy shit some people are so obtuse. Literally in the face of absolute fact they stay their ground ill never understand dumb people

>>42190096
You're doing God's work, anon

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>>42192021
Sauce on that gif?

>>42190770
Surely 35g is too low? Even a regular sized apple is around 19g of sugar. Unless, of course, you're referring to added sugar or something?

>>42186212
As a former lard ass I can confirm its actually pretty easy. I lost like 30 pounds in the space of a couple months still living off a diet of chicken dippers and waffles.

>>42192653
I'm referring to your penis. Come hither O small one.

>>42191992
>in cases that one could safely conclude that correlation = causation, I will not simply because I disagree with your opinion
Tobacco has been on a steady decline because now everybody knows it's bad for you and likely to cause cancer. Although I will admit, the current anti smoking commercials can be fucking stupid and pointless.
The majority of smokers are old baby boomers and edgy teens, both groups that don't give two shits about anything; most normal people avoid tobacco.

>>42192537
It's most certainly a frap. It has a dome lid and that brown shit isn't coffee it's caramel drizzle coating the sides of the cup. We only put dome lids on shit with whip cream. So she either got an iced coffee with a fuck ton of caramel drizzle and whip cream or it's a frap,

>>42192736
Evryone knows mcdonalds is bad for you. But its cheap and heavily marketed. People in the 60s and 70s knew cigerettes were bad but they were cheap and heavily marketed

>>42186076
My husband is in incredible shape and it still happens to him. Only savior are spandex.

Still good job on getting it done buddy!

>>42188837
Fucking sucks but at least you can put on a few layers and go for a hike/jog

>>42191284
Healthcare is not a right because things given to you by man are not a right. Rights are things that you have that shouldn't be taken away.

If healthcare was a right then doctors would be indentured servants.

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>in a group chat with some friends
>none of them are /fit/, mostly skinnyfat
>one overweight guy
>ask why fat acceptance is on a rise and not being discriminated against like smoking is
>they deny calories in vs calories out
>say its a genetic predisposition
>the few that acknowledge that obesity is a choice compare obesity to religion
>"why have propaganda against one but not the other since they're both choices."
>"religion hurts people more than obesity does"
>"tdee is not an accurate measure, you can't just know how many calories you need a day."
>the only person who agreed with me was the overweight guy
>mfw the entire thing

Holy shit normalfags need to be gassed, the cognitive dissonance and refusal to actually form an argument without resorting to ad hominem was fucking awful.

I need a new friend group.

>>42188249
> I am a confident woman
Really doesn't sound like it.

>>42187602
Except for the intestines, this always looks fucking delicious.

>>42193014
What the fuck are you talking about? All rights are manmade ideologies
>indentured servants
Why do you people insist on using buzzwords you have no idea what mean?

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>>42186517
Underrated

>>42193089
It's simple anon
>Overweight guy knows that he's overweight
>he accepts this, is content eating like shit and knows that how he could not be overweight
>he simply does not care
>skinnyfat normies are insecure about themselves
>do mental gymnastics to convince themselves that there's nothing they can do about their bodies

>>42190774
I always reserve a part of my daily caloric intake for "random shit from family" because I come from a big and prosperous family (except one aunt who is a fucking leech) and, from this, we get tons of treats, leftovers, harvests, excess eggs, and sometimes goat milk. Although the goats are getting old and the current kids are too young, so maybe I won't get my goat milk

>>42193089
>>42193136
This. He knows he's overweight, but he isn't insecure so he doesn't try and project his lifestyle onto other people.
Meanwhile the others are defending it because they see this as an insult to one of their fat friends or family members, or because if CalINCalOut isn't true, maybe they could be swole if they actually went to the gym.

>>42191604
Im not for taxing food.

But in theory you would just have tax sugar and transfats. And corn syrup in the USA.

Really not that hard -just morally wrong.

>>42193165
I love goat milk